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Colin Brace's avatar

As to the larger point about the EU, I've heard that argument many times, and perhaps the best response would be to simply point out that a "free trade zone with benefits", such as the EC was through the 80s, would have accomplished that goal -- and in fact did. People also point out other positive dimensions of the EU, such as consumer protections, environmental policy, or anti-monopoly measures, which are also undeniable. But the EU of today, anno 2022, is absolutely not the EC of the 80s. A silent slow-motion coup has taken place, and a profoundly anti-democratic technocratic supra-state is being erected. Anyone who resists loss of nation-state and popular sovereignty is depicted as a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing ethno-centric xenophobe, especially by the woke "Left". However, the internal economic contradictions are growing and it's hard to see how this malignant project can last for much longer. So-called rightwing populists like Victor Orbán are probably our only hope.

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Xingyi's avatar

I don't know why people can't come to terms with the FACT that the greatest common denominator of human misery has been government for all of history. History professor? Left, right, liberal, conservative, communist, capitalist?! I don't care what side you're on unless you're on the side of human liberty and freedom.

It's actually pretty easy to see where anyone is at. Do you advocate for more of what has caused human suffering or the minimalization of it?

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