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agnt Roger W. curmudgeonist's avatar

In culturally protestant countries (Germany, America, Denmark, Scotland, England, etc.) there is a fundamental lack of respect for human dignity. This causes people (functionaries of the State, for example) to perceive human suffering as a foregone conclusion.

The MKULTRA stuff is one example. Other examples are witchcraft, and the obsessions with all that very old Hindu crap, and the fact that protestants are told to never pray for the dead, because that is not biblical. That very human and very sacred sentiment feeling compassion for victims is deemed unbiblical.

The truth is that it is good to love victims and it is good to hate evil.

Mark Harris's avatar

have you been following developments re the CK assassination? relevant persons (e.g., the alleged shooter"s full name) and facilities of interest were googled prior to Sept. 10 in Israel, D.C., etc. it's becoming increasingly plausible that when CK's withdrawal of support for Israel threatened the Israeli propaganda apparatus + financial windfalls rec'd by TPUSA he was permanently excised from the that organization. also, witness the strange behavior exhibited by his Chief of Staff, his widow, the camera man, etc. the Chief of Staff's father falsely claimed that his son had been "covered in blood" (a Freudian slip if interpreted metaphorically?)

psmi's avatar

And egyptian military aircraft 6 miles away at provo airport on the day, and seemingly following TPUSA events around..

..and the completely weird actions of all TPUSA staff there, especially - as you say - Tyrell Farnsworth (immediately went thru the underpass to film a selfie video that just looks like terrible acting), Mikey McCoy (put his phone to his ear before Charlie'd body hit the ground and calmly walked away)..

..but probably the most damning individual thing for me is the actions of the bodyguards acting on him on the ground. Not stressed or anxious, almost bored looking. Not doing anything to staunch a carotid artery rupture (tho there was no blood anyway.. ..what??) but also not doing CPR which is the only other thing to do.. ..but definitley doing something, including apparently taking something off charlie and handing it to someone who goes off with it.

Never mind the nonsense about the 30-06 that charlie 'miraculously' stopped with his neck because he's a 'man of steel'.. ..and the ridiculous 'confession' by Tyler the feds released (why?).. ..and the fact the feds wrapped the investigation up within 12h of Tyler turning himself in..

Candace, Ian Carroll etc are incredible on this. I really fear for them.

https://www.youtube.com/live/W7gQadWvKk4?si=H3FBPK9z-yTl4UeH&t=1613

https://youtu.be/QsUrL8lfSyU?si=ogs3QxtY4GtQaJ2k

Mark Harris's avatar

wonderful summary of what I left out

agnt Roger W. curmudgeonist's avatar

In the TV show Futurama, the crazy old scientist character is named Farnsworth. Also an exhibitionist.

Be careful with both Candace and Ian. Candace likes to trick her audience. Example of a trick: when commenting on the footage from the camera hanging from the tent structure, behind Kirk, she said something like "there is no blood, what happens in the back is not what happens in the front". Which is a truism: in any stage, what can be recorded from one angle is not exactly the same as what can be recorded from a different angle. Also, different cameras, different sensors and different software settings yield different images even from the same (or almost the same) spot.

Candace fools around too much.

To survive the 21st century, remember this: do not trust news people.

Ian also fools around too much. He did that insufferably long broadcast (5+ hours) with that bizarre former military personage, weapons expert, who peddles very weird ideas, designed to confuse people. Remember, the art of war is the art of lies, and warriors always lie. Confounding your opponent, and your friends, may give them an advantage. It's automatic, a reflex, like many doctors, also systematic liars.

Ian is less intelligent than Candace, but has more charm. The gossip addicts who don't fall for Candace will fall for Ian. It's a tag team.

Free Mayonnaise's avatar

There was no arterial flow because it hit the brain stem immediately as indicated by the decorticate posturing of his arms and clenched fists, the heart stopped almost instantly, it was clearly IJV gravity flow and vascular collapse. There was literally nothing that could be done at that point. CPR would have simply pumped what remained out of his body, none of the oxygenated blood from doing CPR would have reached his brain due to that IJV damage after a few compressions. Sometimes there is no saving someone. This was one of those times. That said, I doubt the people on the ground actually knew all of that and definitely acted very oddly for people doing close personal protection. I personally think part of the weird acting was that it was a staged event that went sideways, a low velocity round bounced off his lightweight vest instead of being stopped and tumbled into his neck and to the midbrain/pons/brainstem, hence the injury as seen on slow motion. The Israeli angle seems hastily constructed, with Bibi Melei trying to get out in front of it. I think the deep state has a competency problem which makes everything worse.

psmi's avatar

yes i'd go along with most of that - hadn't thought of the idea he wasn't supposed to die tho. pretty high risk if its important that he doesn't.

also yeah but the deep state knows it doesn't have to waste too much effort being competent i'd say

but i've seen enough to have a default assumption that if was the deep state, then that is clearly controlled by israel as a dominant partner - and if the cui bono is for them then thats gonna be main theory

its completely clear they had already taken over tpusa, it was their main vehicle for control of the next generation of american conservative voters, and Charlie was jeopardising that, so..

Free Mayonnaise's avatar

right, they don't need to off anybody "important" is because they already own them all

that's the main reason I think it like the trump one are risky theater for a derp cabal running out of ideas

agnt Roger W. curmudgeonist's avatar

Watch this video if you like: https://rumble.com/v70mcuw-pastor-rob-mccoy.html

I think all these people lie. I suspect it is about money. But money for what? Helping with the cover up? Helping with the cover up of the cover up?

It is astonishing that that weird guy, Hammer, twitted "public execution" and an old twit from Trump the night before. It is also astonishing the intense damage control: everybody knew Kirk had cut his links with Zionists by September 9th. And they lied about the obvious motivation of the assassination (real or fake, it's the same motive.)

The opportunity is also patently clear.

The means are not clear: all the bodyguards stood down. As they were ordered?

The weirdest thing so far is that they keep doing "The Charlie Kirk Show" like nothing happened. At the very least, that is poor taste. And also, all those people look very ice cold professionals, almost psycho-killer level cold. Shock or emotional trauma do not explain their behavior, for all this time (maybe the first week or two, beyond that it is suspicious). Professionalism also does not explain how weird these people are behaving. They should have shut down the show long ago. And the "memorial" show was almost a crime. It's all so repellent and weird.

Am I the only one who thinks these people are either psy-operators or total idiots?

psmi's avatar

well to me the obvious explanation is israel controlled tpusa and it was their main strategy for tying up future conservative opinion

if they got rid of charlie kirk because he was jeopardising that, then the immediate priority would be to secure his legacy as pro-israel and keep tpusa going. that all fits perfectly to me

agnt Roger W. curmudgeonist's avatar

In pro-wrestling they create long-standing feuds between the "good guy" and the "bad guy". The public loves that plot line, they always come back for more.

Depending on your angle, Candace is the good guy and the sick kids at TPUSA are the bad guy. Or viceversa.

The dispute is bizarre: TPUSA maintains that Kirk always remained on the side of the good, which is, Israel has a right to ruin the USA by mass murdering innocent children with missiles and snipers and drones and famine. Candace says, no, Israel has no right to either bringing ruin to the USA or to mass murder anyone.

The bizarre factor is: the war business is very profitable. Bombs are used, bombs must be purchased, there is only one monopolist who produces and sells bombs, and every other bomb producer and seller has to ask permission to the monopolist to do anything. Mass murder is mostly about a business cycle, not about "security" or "revenge".

After destruction comes the reconstruction, which is the prelude to a future cycle of bombings. Bombs need targets. Real Estate developers are in the business of creating the most tremendous targets, okay? You are gonna love them.

The plot line collapses. What were they arguing about?

So, did Israel have a motive to murder its rebellious puppets? Yes. And the means? Yes. And the opportunity? Yes. And was it convenient? mostly yes. And is this enough? No, because we still have the problem of "The Left (TM)".

What is "The Left(TM)"? Well, you know how people like to pretend that demons who ran Nazi Germany in the 1930s were on the right, because the left is all good? In spite of the mountains of skulls and bones of victims that the revolutionaries have been creating for about 250 years? Do you know how the red color of revolution is the red color of Abel's blood? The favorite color of traitors and conceited people? The Nazi Flag was red, had a white circle, and a sun-worship symbol.

Okay. Colors are important. Prussian blue combines well with a number of shades of brown, ocher, khaki color. It has to do with the human eye, and how we perceive light and wavelength. Blue goes well with many military tones. Iron compounds are part of many pigments.

Red, white and blue, colors present in many flags, are symbols for treason, consequence and profits. Problem, reaction, solution.

So, did a leftist MKULTRA-ed victim shot the geopolitical doll? Does he remember doing that feat? AHA! The fact that he cannot remember proves that Charlie Kirk is still alive! Or so it goes. Do you see how toxic is the logic in all this? The boobus americanus is a common leftist with worn out shoes, who understands the "The Left(TM)" can do no wrong, ever.

Colors, Revolutions. Profits.

The uppity liberals think "Ha, pro-wrestling is a silly entertainment for white trash, those racist scum rebels from the South, subhuman animals. We have much better entertainment, so much more complex and evolved. We the liberals are so special. Power can never fool us!"

Revolutions. Profits. Colors.

We on the philosopher class double down on our traditional blind faith on skepticism. You cannot know anything for sure, that's why you must only trust your senses and believe what you see, except when your senses contradict the party line. We have to burn the bankers and the CEOs at the stake to save the planet from CO2, but we hate the Vatican because of the Inquisition. We philosophers are so smart and need no special entertainment.

Profits. Colors. Revolutions.

SmithFS's avatar

No doubt about it, another CIA/Mossad assassination. Also FBI threatening people to not release and delete their phone videos. Was the patsy, Tyler Robinson, setup with an MKUltra mind control technique? Quite possible.

Mark Harris's avatar

sure looks like a coordinated takedown with multiple insiders abetting.

Proberta's avatar

Well the really good videos exposing the fake AF Kirk shooting are coming out now. Here's one of the best yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYg6hC4gYlM

And more will come out, just like they did with the fake AF Trump shooting.

https://old.bitchute.com/video/XyQfYhZO9mLT/

Charlie Kirk psyop in 3 minutes:

https://www.winterwatch.net/2025/10/the-charlie-kirk-psyop-in-3-minutes

And it turns out that Charlie is not who he's portrayed to be. Have you read Miles Mathis's deep dive into Charlie Kirk's fabricated bio?

https://mileswmathis.com/kirk.pdf

Lucinda's avatar

"All governments lie." - I.F. "Izzy" (Isidor Feinstein) Stone, investigative reporter, journalist, writer, publisher, political analyst - https://www.ifstone.org/index.php

No, Charlie Kirk was not assassinated but was a created Christian personality to first rope in young Christian evangelicals' biblical support for the chosenites & then to use/weaponize his purported "death" to claim martyrdom for the Christian cult fanatics' alleged "victim-hood". This is about as cynical & obvious as it gets. Haven't you followed all of Celia's CK articles?

Once you see our manipulated reality clearly, as Celia & other good investigators lay out, you understand that major events in human history - wars, famines, disasters, assassinations, political false flags, "pandemics" etc. - are invented or weaponized to sell the PTB's big lies.

See for example of this: Shakespeare - On Plato’s Cave, Edward de Vere and Vaccination

Unbekoming substack - Mar 05, 2023

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/shakespeare

In this article, unbekoming show us how "safer" topics can open up minds to the corruption of truth & how our overlords utilize myths & repetition to warp our critical thinking process.

[clip] "Until very recently I, like you I suspect, thought that Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. Why wouldn’t I, Hollywood told me repeatedly after all.

If you want to help someone you care about wake up from 200 years of finely tuned vaccine propaganda and manufactured ignorance, you cannot approach the subject head on, but you can approach it sideways through Shakespeare.

You can gift someone Official Stories and invite them to read chapter 7 (Shakespeare) and they are now very likely to find their way to chapter 5 (Vaccination).

If they do, either by themselves or with a bit of nudging from you “did you read any of the other chapters?” then you can point them to the last 21 minutes of Vaxxed 2, and then honestly your work is done.

I’m not sure if Liam actually understood the genius of what he did with his book. I believe it is the only book ever written that indirectly, via “safe” subjects, helps someone “wake themself up” to that that really matters."

And this summary of Liam Scheff's excellent book explains how our historical narratives & myths are created & then also falsified or manipulated "for purpose" by those in power:

- "Official stories exist to protect officials." With the opening line as our guide, we're going to pry open the vault of "official-dom" and see what lies beneath. Drawing information from 10 years of investigative journalism, Liam invites you to join the hunt for the details that lie just beneath the surface. In this heavily-researched but irreverent book, we'll look under the rocks and stones of our culture: From CIA and JFK, to 9/11 and Shakespeare; from Vaccination to HIV to Big Bang theory, Darwinism, Plate Tectonics and more. Think of it as a corrective textbook to all the tales we were taught in school. Why do we accept some stories as true when the details so obviously contradict the headlines? We're going to find out what's real, what's true, and what's just an "official story."

> Official Stories: Counter-Arguments for a Culture in Need - Paperback – May 31, 2012

by Liam Scheff (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Official-Stories-Counter-Arguments-Culture-Need/dp/147756134X/ref=sr_1_1

Reviews:

"Liam explains key moments in our history and present crisis. Like a wise, friendly and charming uncle, he strolls into our living rooms and begins chatting in an easy unassuming manner. No question, we understand exactly what he's talking about. It's clear, it's vivid, it's fascinating---and then all of a sudden, we're dropping down through space, down through a deep rabbit hole into the Truth, which is to say, the scams and cons and cover-ups and lies we've been fed about reality." - Jon Rappoport, Author & Editor, The Matrix Revealed

"After suffering 24 years of ill health, I learned that the official stories told to me about modern medicine were lies. Natural medicines unapproved by government healed me despite what I was told by the experts. From that moment on, I wondered what other things I had been taught to believe were true were merely stories to benefit the purveyors of the official stories.

It turns out, there are a lot of other stories, official, yet untrue. Liam Scheff has captured and revealed many of them in one book unlike any I have ever read. Hook, line and sinker, each chapter reveals the official story, smoking gun and then scratches until the fallacy beneath its thin, yet often overwhelming veneer, is revealed. Good luck putting this book down, because with each chapter you will want to know about the next official story - now! It's brilliant, and it's about time." - Robert Scott Bell, Homeopath and National Radio Host

David Lamson's avatar

Even ABC whitewashes this stuff by using the terms treatments, experiments, or other "scientific"-garbed terms. "Doctors," "scientists," my backside. This is nothing but criminal behavior- inhuman criminal behavior that ought to have been prosecuted.

I had an "argument" with my AI whether psychology is science or not. As it eventually (inadvertently) stated, psychology is nothing more than subjective interpretations of behavior based on a set of agreed upon criteria (by a particular group of men,) just as is the example of the "utility" of vaccines in modern day "science." Use of the objective scientific method in psychology is impossible, thus psychology cannot be considered a science any more than are the TV commercials included in this ABC News production.

MK Ultra may have been occurring under government auspices, but similar human "experiments" are done every day in every doctor's office. They've just substituted different classes of drugs to replace LSD in their "experiments." Somehow, we've become a population of willing lab rats.

Gaye's avatar

You are correct. Nothing has changed. People in this video seem to think this kind of drugging and experimentation is okay. No need to inform your victims, er, subjects. This is how we got the covid psyop. It was a short trip from Timothy Leary and Gottlieb to Fauci and Birks.

David Lamson's avatar

Agreed. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I've always been uncomfortable with the wearing of religion garb, as it seemed a remnant of Jewish priesthood which is antithetical to the new testament revelation of all believers as saints.

Similarly, Western culture has its own version of a secular priesthood which is ordained through some post-graduate degree combined with the wearing of a white robe (or lab coat.)

Thomas Sowell once said a great advantage of his having a Harvard education, was being freed from the delusion that a Harvard education makes one any smarter or wiser than another. My 35 years working with scientists and doctors freed me from a similar delusion regarding our white-robed priesthood.

And, in fact, because all "modern science" has as its foundational dogma, "by natural means only," meaning God must be entirely disregarded, all "modern science" is antithetical to truth.

Gaye's avatar

Sowell. What a gift! Brilliant thinker.

"As long as human beings are imperfect, there will always be arguments for extending the power of government to deal with these imperfections. The only logical stopping place is totalitarianism--unless we realize that tolerating imperfections is the price of freedom." —Thomas Sowell

Dale Peterson's avatar

Perfect choice for a Saturday night pre-bedtime selection. :-)

Christina Jonsson's avatar

Jun 29, 2025

The Jimmy Dore Show

This is a first hand report of the MKUltra experiments on children. Shocking and cruel.

“I Was A Child Victim Of The CIA’s MKUltra Program!” – Dr. Juliette Engel

Dr. Juliette Engel, a physician and anti-human trafficking advocate, recounts being sold into the CIA’s MK-Ultra Monarch program at the age of six, where she endured extreme physical, sexual, and psychological abuse as part of mind control experiments. She describes being part of a program involving satanic rituals, trauma-based conditioning, and the use of LSD and other drugs to create externally controlled personalities.

Engel alleges that high-level figures in U.S. intelligence, including founders of the NSA and CIA, orchestrated these programs, and that recently released documents confirm many of these past abuses. She argues that the psychological manipulation methods developed during MK-Ultra are still affecting society and leadership today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1z87vRvu4E

60Gigahertz2's avatar

That was impactful. I've watched so many documentaries on MK Ultra that most of it was familiar, but this time I captured the names of the key players and the transcript. There was some psyop stuff in there. The ending was very creepy.

DWB's avatar

I really resent what they did. They spread this "mind control" research into standard mental health treatment in hopes of furthering their techniques. ECT shock treatments, of course, but also the whole CBT "thoughts control your emotions" stuff is basically 50's era brainwashing techniques repurposed with the goal of brainwashing you into happiness. Neither of them work and, like the lady in the video, people lost a lot of their lives to those things and will always wonder what they could have been.

Carol Hoon's avatar

ECT shock treatments are super horrible. They did that to my mother in the 1959 when she had post partum depression. We, as children, didn't find out until my mother had cancer in 1990, was horribly depressed after the mastectomy and checked herself into a mental institution where they put her on SSRI drugs, where she didn't know who she was and was screaming when I went to see her. Anyway, long story short, they did ECT on her and she was a total zombie for almost a year. She wouldn't even come to my wedding. So, so sad.

Laura Mueller's avatar

Thank you for sharing this burdensome truth. May your healing continue among all those you choose as family in your life today.

agnt Roger W. curmudgeonist's avatar

CBT works best for narcissists.

For non-narcissists, CBT is like waterboarding torture.

Most people are narcissists (they are programmed to become that, because narcissism reduces fertility). My own estimation is 80% of people have important narcissistic traits. In the therapy business, most "therapies" cater to the majority, and the practitioners know not what to do with any client who doesn't fit the model. As a side note, most therapists are narcissists to begin with, so in reality they are vampirizing clients and making them like they are. Which is similar to the Occultist/Theosophists/Nazis obsession with immortality, becoming cyborgs etc. The myth of graphene nanobots is just a rehashing of the gothic novels of vampires and werewolfs. People love this crap now, as much as people loved that other crap 200 years ago. But it is only fiction, and it serves the purpose of supporting the power grab and the grand theft of the world.

Many people overlook the progressive and masonic theme at the source of all these "experiments." Like Rodríguez Delgado wanted: remotely control the brains of people to build a perfect society without crime. What a huge contradiction! The greatest crime, which is to assault the vital organs of people, to achieve the utopia of ending crime. The results speak for themselves.

Christina Jonsson's avatar

Torture is the right word for this sadistic treatment of innocent human beings.

Quill Cross's avatar

Are you familiar with Alice Bailey? She predicted in 1949 that 2025 would be the year of the “externalization” of the hidden agenda. She was a theosophist following Blavatsky but ultimately breaking off with her own take. Considers by many to have birthed the “New Age” movement.

Ellen W's avatar

I just left a comment to the post, which is very interesting, IMO.

I just finished Dan Brown’s newest book, “The Secret of the Secrets” which loosely arrives at this same conclusion (consciousness exists outside of our corporeal beings).

I hadn’t read any of Dan Brown’s books since reading the blockbuster “The DaVinci Code” some 23 years ago.

He has a disclaimer at the front of the book stating that all the programs and locations he references exist.

Highly advanced and secretive entities in the most powerful countries and secret societies are doing experiments and studies in this area of human consciousness, “near death experiences”, remote viewing, etc.

I came away, thinking that everything we talked about in this “novel” was likely actually occurring.

Kilquor's avatar

Zionists refusing to be jewish is more likely the only motivation behind such .

It is written, "For you (the people of Israel) shall be a desirable land, says G‑d" (Malachi 3:12). Just as the greatest explorers will never uncover the limits of the great and valuable resources which the Almighty has placed within the earth, neither will anyone ever discover the limits of the great treasures which lie buried within a Jew - G‑d's "desirable land."

Baal Shem Tov

4 centuries ago .

SmithFS's avatar

The CIA is still illegally doing MKULtra experiments without consent on people, including myself, a few years ago. And that is some powerful hallucinogens they use. And somehow they are able to implant memories, a storyline into your own mind, of considerable complexity, for a week or more. I don't know how they manage it, I would call it a sci-fi fantasy if I didn't see it for myself. Now I can understand how they can manipulate patsies into playing roles in their assassination plots.

agnt Roger W. curmudgeonist's avatar

The phrase "without consent" and the word "espionage" belong in the th same semantic space. Curiously.

In July '24, when they shot at Trump, people commented on the "Enough is Enough" card of a game called "Illuminati". It says "At any time, at any place, our snipers can drop you. Have a nice day."

Which means many things:

One: a public attack is meant to be seen by the public, to cause scandal.

Two: it is always necessary to add very odd details around the people that are going to be related to the event, like the weird jaw of Crooks/Yaerick/whatever, the weird hair of Trump, the furry life, the magic photographer that happened to have the perfect shutter speed setting in his camera to take a shot of the round that went past Trump.

Three: there are people who lament or celebrate, according to their ideology and worldview, a failed/successful/faked shooting. Many of these people think they are awake and everyone who disagrees is asleep, and they also believe they are invulnerable to mind control, but other people are under mind control. The show part seems to be meant to make sure people do not realize where they are.

Four: The sound of silence. A figure of speech about presenting opposing meanings together. Silence is the purpose of death threats.

Hello, darkness, my old friend

I've come to talk with you again

Because a vision softly creeping

Left its seeds while I was sleeping

And the vision that was planted in my brain

Still remains within the sound of silence

"The vision that was planted in my brain" is approximately the same as "implanted memories."

But! But, remember Metallica's song, "the memory remains".

It is a basic feature of the fraud of psychoanalysis: the doctor/philosopher will tell you either that your memory is wrong, or that you do not remember something terrible that happened to you, and he will illuminate the path for you, to reveal the hidden truth buried deep in your unconscious mind.

To do either one of these two actions should be regarded as a crime.

Stephen's avatar

ABC News. Good reporting then.

My how they have fallen.

Jude Gibbs's avatar

1 Cor. 2:16 'For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.'

Rom. 12:2 'And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.'

https://www.gotquestions.org/mind-of-Christ.html

Ralph Magee's avatar

In John Coleman's 2006 book on Tavistock, he writes in a short chapter, "How Tavistock Makes Well People Sick," that its founder, John Rawlings Reese developed their methods of brainwashing, applying psychotherapy techniques to cure mentally ill individuals in the opposite direction: to make mentally healthy people become mentally ill. Reese began his long series of experiments in the 1930s using British Army recruits as test cases. He progressed to perfecting mass brainwashing techniques used in targeting countries slated for change, including the United States, starting here in 1946.

"The British Army Psychological Warfare Bureau was set up at Tavistock through secret agreements with Churchill , well before Churchill became prime minister. The agreements gave the British Special Operations Executive, commonly known as the SOE, full control over the policies of the U.S. Armed Forces, acting through civilian channels, and which invariably, became official U.S. Government policy."

psmi's avatar

Anyone recommend a book about MK Ultra?

Thanks!

Laura Mueller's avatar

My favorite for overall view of the history with well documented details is:

The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government by David Talbot. While not exclusively about MK Ultra, this book provides extensive context on the CIA under Allen Dulles, the director who oversaw the program, and how it fit into the agency's broader operations and Cold War mentality.

This next book explains MK Ultra's role in the 1953 death of Frank Olson, head of U.S. biowarfare in Korean War, covered up until 1975 when Gerald Ford compensated the family, the only U.S. President to apologize for government murder of a citizen. On Netflix 32 million have watched *Wormwood*, a 3-part docuseries from 2017 in which his son Eric Olson tells about his father's murder in NYC and the impact of left on his mother and the siblings. See trailer at https://youtu.be/b01DL8DTUGM?si=pD0IWnFv4-mYxslV

A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments by H.P. Albarelli Jr. This book investigates the suspicious death of Frank Olson, an Army scientist who was unknowingly dosed with LSD by the CIA and died shortly after.

This third is often cited as best coverage to date:

Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control by Stephen Kinzer. This book offers an in-depth, biographical account of Sidney Gottlieb, the chemist who was the de facto head of the MK Ultra program. Kinzer details Gottlieb's motivations, methods, and the devastating impact of his experiments on unwitting subjects.

psmi's avatar

Ah thank you so much!

Will try Devil's Chessboard.. :)

Laura Mueller's avatar

Great book to start -- David Talbot is one of the best writers on this history: well researched, clear, flowing, engaging all the senses.

Mel R's avatar

"Thanks for the Memories". A book published in 1999 by Brice Taylor (her psuedonym).

Perhaps the other books on MK Ultra should be read first but this one is an unusual story of a high-level mind-control subject who came out alive and told her story.

Text of the book can be read online. Existing hardcopies are high-priced, $60 and up, often selling for over $100. Taylor reveals her encounters with Henry Kissinger, Bob Hope (and Barbra Streisand).

The online summary of the book: An autobiographical account of a young girl being MKUltra programmed to sexually service presidents, celebrities, and wealthy businessmen, and also act as a computer to deliver messages to political contacts. This information is essential for understanding how entities within our government utilized mind control, without consent, for influence and manipulation.

Mel R's avatar

A resource on mind control, CIA experiments, MK Ultra is Mae Brussell. Although Mae has only one book in wide circulation (digital format, Kindle - hardcopies are treasured collectibles) - "The Essential Mae Brussell: Investigations of Fascism in America", much of Mae's work parallels the MK Ultra program. There are interviews and radio programs of Mae Brussell who started research on the JFK assassination. Colleague and assistant to Mae Brussell include John Judge and Dave Emory who have done lectures and radio interviews

frequently speaking on mind control projects.

Riki Tiki Tavi's avatar

"Crossing the line"...? Ya mean, ignoring ethical concerns, and not doing what is right for the progress and betterment of human society. [insert: slap on the wrist]

Melvyn Punymeyer's avatar

Too bad they never mentioned British intelligence which came up with this masterplan of cybernetic control and the scheme to export it to America. Maybe Peter Jennings didn't want that mentioned.