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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

It looks like the usual public circus.

Palestine, at this point, is anything but a state. It has no government, power structure, and no logistics for production, distribution, and trade.

All those people who have been rooting for it can be led by the nose a bit longer.

Scotlyn's avatar

Palestine is a people.

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

...some of them Christians, the rest mostly Muslims.

Do you know about dhimmihood? That's what awaits Christians and Jews under Islam:

https://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com/

Even if it was a people, a non-existent "state" has been "recognized," not a "people"...

Scotlyn's avatar

There does not seem to be a legal mechanism for recognising a people. If I'm mistaken, perhaps you might suggest one?

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

It doesn't matter what I think. The politicians just recognized a state that doesn't exist...

Scotlyn's avatar

Very true. But this may serve, in these perilous times, to protect a *people* which very much DOES exist.

Be well, stay free!

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Who is protecting whom? Sorry, I don't get it...

Is anybody ever free? I have made my own decision, but it doesn't even guarantee an honorable death:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/freedom-is-what-freedom-does-but

Marten's avatar

Israhell was created in 1948 by Balfour !!!! It should be dissolve !!!

MJ's avatar

WRONG.. .The document was a 1921 TREATY that was part of the settlement of WW1... and Britain was to shepherd it but FAILED to promote the treaty goals as the economic migrants from around Syria, Egypt and other places in NorthAfrica descended on the area as the Jews from Arabic countries came to claim the future written as the goal of the Treaty..

The Israelis were greening the desert and developing civilized infrastructures and commerce to be independent til they chose to break free of British ''protection'' that didn't exist.

Sorry but your joo--hating lying is exposed.

TTYL

Jude Gibbs's avatar

"Both the Holy Qur'an and the Hadith also provided precedents for the allowance of the Dhimmi as protected people under Islam. In particular, Sura 9:29 of the Qur'an reads: "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold forbidden that which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued [Arabic: صاغرون 'saghiroon']." [Quran 9:29] ~ New World Encyclopedia

And let us not forget Sharia Law: https://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html

...nor jihad and the caliphate.

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

The jizja can be as much as 50%, as opposed to the 2% required fom Muslims.

Still, Christians and Jews receive the "compassionate" treatment; everyone else is supposed to be slaughtered, preferably beheaded...

RegretLeft's avatar

Since about 1968 when the Egyptians, the Jordanians and the Syrians got tired of banging their heads against the Israeli Goliath and invented The Palestinians to take up that role.

RegretLeft's avatar

Since about 1968 when the Egyptians, the Jordanians and the Syrians got tired of banging their heads against the Israeli Goliath and invented The Palestinians to take up that role.

RegretLeft's avatar

I get your point, but, of course, it has competing factions contesting power -rather along the lines of competing criminal gangs; - but your list can be added to: it does not control its airspace; has a large, politically unaffiliated population (Jewish “settlers” - they’re not going anywhere ) - and - clown tho he may be - Tucker is correct: their principle business model is “recipients of international aid” - those gangs must be salivating over the Gaza reconstruction tsunami just ahead. Yet - credit where it is due: the construction of a vast network of combat tunnels in Gaza was a marvel of engineering and economic planning; add to that ingenious re-purposing - in this case - ripping up quality Euro agricultural irrigation systems and re-purposing the pipes as inaccurate missiles with ineffective payloads. Only problem is: close to zero export market for those items.

MJ's avatar

And the U.N. is a fake-peace fraud-hawker...

Trump made clear the U.N. produces colossal ''mistakes'', over and over again..

To be specific..

I'll make this succinct..

Get US Out of the UN by supporting and

enacting the DEFUND Act (H.R. 1498 and S. 669).

URGENT; We should ACT NOW:

At his speech yesterday at the UN General Assembly,

President Donald Trump skewered the United Nations for its GLOBALIST policies, including its support for MASS MIGRATION and radically insane "climate change" measures.

But more than that.......

The U.N. is silent on the FOUR African countries practicing slavery... Imagine that.

AND

Within months this year IT WAS TRUMP who MADE PEACE DEALS, not once... EIGHT TIMES... What the hell do we pay the U.N. for?

PLUS,

The U.N. [and Joe Biden and IRAN and QATAR] are why THERE IS NO PEACE in Israel..

FACT........

Fundamentally, here in the U.S.A in the previous century,

We've seen in the medical history of THIS COUNTRY that the way to SAVE LIVES and DEFEAT DISEASES like THE CHILDHOOD DISEASES is

GOOD FOOD SECURITY and CLEAN WATER and SHELTER from cold and storm NOT VACCINES...

So does the U.N. decently apply that ? NO! They vax those decent people.

Do I need to go into what the U.N.'s role was in COVID?

Just Get US Out of the UN by supporting and

enacting the DEFUND Act (H.R. 1498 and S. 669)........ NOW

What are they worth without the U.S.A?

The Brits and the French and most of THE CITIZENS of EU are *done* with exactly what Trump sanely denounced ... the migration and the FAILED climate tyranny..

The U.N is a failed experiment..

TTYL

nymusicdaily's avatar

Pascal Clérotte at l'eclaireur offers a characteristically sharp, contrarian view. Quick translation:

"Ukraine, NATO, the USA and EU have lost the war. Those responsible for this catastrophe are worried they'll be held accountable for this as well as for ruining the economy across Europe.

Donald Trump's problem is simple: to disengage with the Ukrainian shithole (sorry to use that kind of language, but nothing describes Ukraine better), before next year's midterm elections.

He had two choices: put an end to the war or pawn it off. The Ukrainians and Europeans are opposed to any kind of negotiation and concession with Russia or Donald Trumps efforts to restore peace; Washington need only let the Europeans escalate the conflict, which would enable the American President to wash his hands of it. No war, no defeat. And he said it in Trump style, braggingly, "The art of the deal."

"We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!" Deliver arms to NATO, not to Ukraine...

In no way will Donald Trump engage the US in direct conflict with Russia; American public opinion is firmly against it. And the Americans won't let the Europeans use NATO's intelligence services, which are American.

Without American infrastructure and logistics, the Europeans can't do anything against Russia, which holds strategic superiority thanks to their hypersonic capability. And European public opinion is ferociously antiwar. Imagine what would happen in Germany, the United Kingdom and in France, three countries run by illegitimate governments, if they were crazy enough to declare war? The French, German and British states would be in ruins. They're incapable of maintaining their borders and can't keep public order. Their people are not willing to put up with hundred of billions pumped into the black hole of Ukraine. And they're tired of uncontrolled mass immigration.

Nothing's going to happen beyond the neutralization of Ukraine on the battlefield and the implosion of the European Union. War against Russia, which the population doesn't want, will lead to serious domestic conflict in the heart of the three great European powers, maybe revolution. If Emmanuel Macron unleashes Article 16 [martial law], which he's been trying to do since 2018 and the Yellow Vest movement, that will only accelerate his fall, and the shock will be brutal."

original: https://www.eclaireur.eu/p/ukraine-les-bellicistes-ne-comprennent

Jude Gibbs's avatar

I could be wrong, but I'm wondering if Trump is playing the little nazi napoleon pervert as in a brilliant chess move. Simultaneously, goating Putin. I'm curious as to how this will play out. Trump quite strategically and discreetly got his message out to Putin at the UN.

nymusicdaily's avatar

one of the main goals is to destroy europe as pretext for new marshall plan and prison planet infrastructure there. ukraine was the beta test

kilquor2nd's avatar

https://unherd.com/2025/09/europes-boneheaded-sanctions-regime/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3&utm_source=UnHerd+Today&utm_campaign=7ecaaa4638-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2025_09_24_10_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_79fd0df946-7ecaaa4638-35856942

making RU raw oil sell first to usa ,then forcing eu to buy much hiked up processed from India and elsewhere ,

pretend that the EU 23 billion for russian hydrocarbons in 2024 is financing ukr war rearmament for russia .

Trump planned this since 2016 ,oops forgot - HE's not THAT smart ,leaving whom ,precisely ?

John Day MD's avatar

The EU is choking itself to death with its bare hands or something. Remarkably foul and traitorous "leaders" they have, except a few.

John Day MD's avatar

Europe looks tto be the designated sacrifice, the continent that gets to beta test "degrowth".

;-(

nymusicdaily's avatar

true JD but the population ain't having it. i think the eu is toast

John Day MD's avatar

I hope you are right.

Jude Gibbs's avatar

Interesting thought to ponder. :)

John Day MD's avatar

I suspect they agree on certain signs and signals for the near future when they talk in private.

John Day MD's avatar

But the banks really need a big enough war to put the fear of god into everybody, so they will take what they are given and not complain.

kilquor2nd's avatar

Reposting SD's Video: https://rumble.com/v16l2if-rabbi-laitman-says-jews-are-aliens-from-another-universe-revised-version.html -

this is NOT very far from your summary translation ,

-or this

https://unherd.com/2025/09/europes-boneheaded-sanctions-regime/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3

reducing EU to energy vassalisation ,using Trump's pre co-ordinated resale of RUs raw oil .

51st state

Hell no !

much lower !

Gilberto's avatar

“Israel will go it alone”? Great , does that mean the U.S. won’t be giving Israel $3.8 billion annually ?

Bassehound's avatar

This may have been part of this UN meeting saw someone noting trump was blabbing about AI.

“Strategic vision: The paper advocates for collaborative governance models and standardized frameworks to facilitate cross-agency adoption of UN blockchain identity solutions, contributing to the achievement of SDG 16.9 and broader UN digital governance priorities.”

Sep 2025

Transforming Public Digital Identity

https://www.unjspf.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/UNICCUNJSPF_Transforming-Public-Digital-Identity.pdf

60Gigahertz2's avatar

In the link below, Dissident Media includes how every single US congressmember has an Israeli lobbyist "AIPAC" handler who actually follows them around!! The Israeli state is WAY out of control - and has been for DECADES. I want it OUT of my government RFN.

Just Received:  "Watch this film about the fake fight, political theater & then ask yourself, 

why does Trump & APAIC want him out so bad?  I'm supporting Thomas Massie.  

All true freedom loving Americans should, too."

https://x.com/DissidentMedia/status/1963315630137839873

And then I want the US fucking Military to come HOME, and stop doing what the Central Bankers want. Enough already. Our guys don't need to be maimed and killed so a bunch of sick, satanic Central Bankers can help the also sick and satanicpsychopathic global financial elite families and their corporations make more money.

I have had enough of these assholes who have more money than they know what to do with - make more money while trashing our elected governments with blackmail and poisoning/killing us for fun. They seem to really love taking their disgusting fantasies out on children. And we've got to stop letting them.

Julianne Jaz's avatar

"Recognition" without FULL PALESTINIAN SOVEREIGNTY is fucking BULLSHIT. Furthermore, what is actually being discussed would yield a despicable VICHY REGIME, fully complicit with Israel, of a totally neutered Palestinian Authority (no means of defense whatsoever, no sovereign airspace) that virtually NONE of the remaining Palestinians want or trust. Trumpeting this as though it's a "win" is as stupid as it gets, and clearly is being promoted by the those who will DENY PALESTINIAN SOVEREIGNTY FOREVER.

Celia Farber's avatar

I'll get to this. I am aware. I sometimes merely report "news." Then later, go into more depth.

Julianne Jaz's avatar

START HERE:

On the issue of "Palestinian Recognition"

They recognized a concentration camp not a Palestinian "state," with Ali Abunimah and Asa Winstanley

The Electronic Intifada

Sep 25, 2025

#TheElectronicIntifada #TheElectronicIntifadaPodcast

Ali Abunimah, executive director, and Asa Winstanley, associate editor, discuss the significance of the “recognition” of the “State of Palestine” by a number of Western countries. Is it a step forward or a distraction?

This is a segment from The Electronic Intifada's livestream on day 720 of the Gaza genocide. Ali Abunimah, Nora Barrows-Friedman, Jon Elmer and Asa Winstanley were joined by Ahmed Abu Artema, a Palestinian writer, poet and journalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nen7UWx-1ME

Julianne Jaz's avatar

It took me less than two minutes to include THE SALIENT POINT of all this that you couldn't be bothered to include even in passing in your post.

Weihan's avatar

Satanyahu is arguably the most dangerous man on earth.

Rogelio W., agent of the self's avatar

Not his own man, but a puppet of the freemasons.

He will fall when they decide it's time. Maybe before the Winter comes.

California Girl's avatar

Netanyahu is at the top of my list of assholes of the world. I used to have sympathy for the Jewish people who wanted an ancestral home. No longer. Their approach in the Middle East has been to slaughter their neighbors. I find that appalling and inexcusable.

David 1260's avatar

I'm personally uninterested in anything AI has to say about controversial issues. Anything tied to the Narrative is GIGO...

For a deep view of the scene in Israel, Alastair Crooke is tops: https://conflictsforum.substack.com/p/denazification-must-begin-zionism

Celia Farber's avatar

Not really. He's lying about inflation, food prices--for starters. HE'S LYING.

Celia Farber's avatar

You've been food shopping in the US lately, I assume? Or, are you from another country? I saw a loaf of bread for $17 last week.

Lon Guyland's avatar

Must have been quite the loaf. Nice bread with lots of seeds is about $4 or $5 at my local Wegmans. A far cry from 5 loaves for a dollar when I was a kid, but pretty steady over the last year.

Beef prices went up a few months ago but have come down by ~$2/lb

Yogurt doesn’t seem to have changed price in a long time.

Gasoline is under $3 — still expensive but beats $5.

A lot of stuff got more expensive during the fake “pandemic” due to the accelerated debauching of the dollar but at least what I buy has held steady or got cheaper over the last few months.

Johnny-O's avatar

Garbage food with garbage ingredients isn't even cheap, this is the reality of the US. My wife and I spend well over $1k/month on clean high quality food. It's ridiculous considering we are two small people.

Dave Clark's avatar

Same in Canada for my wife and I. Over$1000/month. For Food!!

kilquor2nd's avatar

I have pumpkin seed based bread baked from Belgian Trappist monastries ' supply ,at home .

3e a bag - 3 loaves ,utterly delicious when baked - per bag .

Jude Gibbs's avatar

Excellent synopsis. TY!

Wolf-Steppen's avatar

It's all bread and circuses; which, you know, aren't just "nice spectacles". "Watch the lions devour the Christians! Yum, yum!" We're being distracted and sidelined while the Zionist international totalitarian militarized police and slave state "governance", the "New World Order" (aka, fascism), "One World Order" [chaos created by them to usher in global(ist) enslavement, "1984" and "V for Vendetta" in real life], and One World Religion (the Church of Satan and the antichrist), are taking over completely, their coup d'gras coup d'etat, their "crowning 'achievement'", their final, "final 'solution'". What will we do next that would make any real difference against a foe that already controls every branch of "our" government(s)? The psychopaths are in charge of the entire coocoo's nest, nationally and globally.

Marten's avatar

But in order to do that....Israhell has to go, there is no other common sense way !!!!!

Rogelio W., agent of the self's avatar

This Netanyahu is like the Wizard of Oz doing tricks with his voice to impress people. Total Jackal.

John Day MD's avatar

Limited good news.

"Israel will go it alone"? "Inconceivable!"

Rogelio W., agent of the self's avatar

You keep saying that word, I don't think it means what you think.

Jewell's avatar

Largest NEH Grant in History' Awarded to Jewish Org to Counter 'Pathology of Antisemitism,' Teach Talmud

https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=65039

Jude Gibbs's avatar

Yes, politics (& War) make for strange bedfellows. The world is grateful that the US & Russia teamed up to defeat Hitler and the Nazis. Now, the 2nd & 3rd generations of Nazis inhabit Ukraine (mostly the Western portion).