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I know everyone commenting here knows about the HIV/AIDS scam, but I wanted to mention another heroic doctor who tried to expose the fraud. In the video below, Dr. Robert Willner calls out the corruption of Fauci and NIH (this was back in the early 90s- obviously nothing has changed)

Dr Robert Willner Injects "HIV" into himself on TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQCKb1JV-4A

In 1993, Dr. Willner stunned Spain by inoculating himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. This demonstration of devotion to the truth and the Hippocratic Oath he took, nearly 40 years before, was reported on the front page of every major newspaper in Spain. His appearance on Spain's most popular television show envoked a 4 to 1 response by the viewing audience in favor of his position against the "AIDS hypothesis." When asked why he would put his life on the line to make a point, Dr. Willner replied: "I do this to put a stop to the greatest murderous fraud in medical history. By injecting myself with HIV positive blood, I am proving the point as Dr. Walter Reed did to prove the truth about yellow fever. In this way it is my hope to expose the truth about HIV in the interest of all mankind."

He tested negative multiple times.

He died of a Heart attack 4 months later 15th April 1995

http://www.whale.to/c/willner_deadly_deception.html

(I think they gave him that heart attack--they couldn't allow him to continue living and being healthy because that would have exposed their lies)

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Thank you for this information! It was a great speech he gave before taking the jab to prove his point. Very well spoken.

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One thing I have learned by reading about this thing is that most people are even worse thinkers than I thought they were before. And I say this as someone who knows his errors and limitations and tries to improve and overcome.

Most people seem to believe that if they are afraid of something, that thing has to be real. It doesn't matter how invisible, unquantifiable or ill-defined it is.

Fear is the step-mother of their knowledge, trying to kill it forever.

Then I go to explain that fear is a clue, not a proof of anything. Fear is your true self trying to warn you of something, to pay attention and research something that you are missing. You have work to do when you are afraid of something.

It's curiosity what will save anyone from the real danger of ignorance. Censorship is about punishing the curious.

As a matter of public health, all censorship should be stopped.

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On censorship, yes, I agree all censorship should be stopped. Humanity is on the brink of destruction, as the ruling elite psychopaths are trying to kill billions of us off and enslave the survivors. We need open communication and questioning of everything:

“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” ― George Washington

Also, the rest of your comment reminded me of Janine Roberts' book Fear of the Invisible, in which she writes about the fraud in virology, HIV/AID, and polio, as well as problems with the measles virus and contamination of the vaccines.

Key excerpts from her books can be found at whale.to (treasure trove of hidden info)

Here are a couple of links and key passages:

http://u2.lege.net/whale.to/vaccine/roberts_h.html

When I dug back further, to the origins of virology and the great hunt for the poliovirus, I found the story was scandalously much the same. Powerful evidence was presented to Congress linking the summer polio epidemics to summer-used heavy metal pesticides. These scientists suggested remedies, reported curing polio – and were ignored. Instead parents were told to be scared of a yet undiscovered virus. Today thousands of children are still being identically paralysed in regions where such pesticides are heavily used – but all the World Health Organization (WHO) says is: ‘Don’t worry; we have nearly exterminated the dreaded poliovirus. We have checked. The paralysed children were not infected by it.’

https://davidpratt.info/roberts.htm

Cells naturally produce viral-like particles without being invaded, both when healthy and sick. Janine Roberts explains (pp. ix-x): Scientists like Barbara McClintock, who won a Nobel Prize for finding that cells operate with intelligence and seek to repair themselves, have given us a very different understanding of the particles they make. We now know that our cells create multitudes of tiny transport particles (vesicles) to carry the proteins and genetic codes needed within and between cells. The ones that travel between cells, those our cells use to communicate with each other – are puzzlingly just like those that we have long blamed for illnesses.

It now seems that we may have misconceived the virus; that most of them could well be simply inert messages in envelopes carried from cell to cell. In the last ten years scientists have begun to call them ‘exosomes’, ‘particles that leave the body’ of the cell, removing the inference that the word ‘virus’ carries, of them being dangerous by nature. Distinguishing the healthy particle from the pathogenic is now an enormous problem for the virologist, for it has been discovered that our cells make them all in the same way, in the very same place. It also seems we cannot stop this process without risking severely damaging our cells....

Since ‘scientists have long known that the guaranteed way to make cells produce viruses in the laboratory, including flu and measles virus, is not primarily by getting them infected, but by exposing them to stress and toxins’ (p. 249), more research ought to be carried out into the role of toxins in causing measles, mumps, flu, colds, etc. Similar viruses may be associated with similar diseases because cells respond in a similar way to specific challenges. Vitamin A deficiency is also implicated in measles. Beriberi and pellagra are examples of other diseases caused by nutritional deficiencies, but which were once blamed on bacteria.

(And fwiw, Janine Roberts also wrote another book Vaccine Papers- I can't find excerpts at whale.to but the reviews on amazon give a good overview of what she uncovered)

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This is an amazing piece of history! What a great man he was.

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I remember getting tested for HIV in early nineties. Had to wait two weeks for test results. Meanwhile, I had a very good friend who was super intelligent, high IQ individual tell me it was all BS. He said it was all made up. He told me they were using drug addict, and the homeless. He sad, the gay community was just caught up in it, so as to scare the population. I thought he was mad.

Looking back on it now, it all seems so crazy. No one I personally knew died of AIDS and I knew a lot of people. I would hear about a friend of a friend. Not someone I knew directly.

So... like the MRNA cure, the AZT cure was worse than the disease 🦠

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In mid-1980s, I knew someone who died of AIDS, as the claim then was. We (his work colleagues) did not have a clue about what AZT was and did - he died a total wreck, in care of his parents. I think he was the only son.

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That’s really sad. I remember a movie from them days called, “And then there was one”

A scary movie about a couple that had AIDS and passed it on to their baby. That movie probably helped to cement the AIDS scare into the minds of the masses.

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Descartes: I think, therefore I am.

AIDS Inc: We say virus, therefore it is.

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1,780,000,000 is one billion seven hundred eighty million, which is also just a small fraction of the number of dollars made by HIV Incorporated.

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This is how one may say the number

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Celia,

Alex Jones just pulled off a superb interview of Judy Mikovits, getting her to slow down almost enough at some points to explain to those of us who don't have her forty year history what's taking place right now. From my perspective Mikovits is motor-mouthing through the first 12 minute segment; but, Alex starts getting her directed in the second and third segments, where she really shines.

GROUNDBREAKING: Dr. Mikovits Exposes the Biggest COVID Secret

https://www.brighteon.com/4822a4f2-9ca5-487d-8379-f97a8fc2407a

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Edmond, will you help me understand what Judy is saying? We must reconcile all these voices and pieces. I know she's speaking with greater urgency now and I will listen to this one. It's a massive puzzle. Like an occult puzzle.

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Her main argument seems to be that vaccines since 1986 have just been poisonous cocktails of various untested, bioengineered viruses of various kinds - infection by injection. And contagion is a myth. The solution is to never take another injection of any kind, ever, and take steps to health that do not rely on this fake system of poisons built for us. Closes with a plug to buy INFOWARZ stuff...

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This was thoroughly explained by Eleanor McBean in her book during the Spanish Flu, and Suzanne Humphries who provided scientific data analysis from governments all around the world - proving that quackzines couldn't have "eradicated" any disease..... all so-called infectious diseases were already nearly eradicated by the time any quackzine came out... and then the quackzine caused the disease it was said to eradicate. But health agencies just re-label them as a new disease- tricking the general public. And round & round we go. Germ theory is the biggest lie of our time.

Mikovits isnt saying anything new or profound....

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JP accurately summarizes her argument. But, it is a non-scientific argument as the entities in question (the supposed virus) have never been isolated/purified and characterized. DNA sequencing is old technology- kits containing all the needed components (primer, nucleotides, polymerase) were already available in 1988 when I began sequencing. Yet, not one person can detail how any virus was so sequenced- why? I don't wish to criticize, but until first-step scientific evidence of isolated/purified and sequenced DNA from a virus is available, I accept neither the virus hypothesis, nor any downstream discussions based on a scientifically unproven hypothesis.

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I just watched this: dear Judy is on fire. A must watch!

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Mikovits has consistently been perpetuating the virus & germ theory lie. Shes been called out on it MANY TIMES - including a very infamous debate with Dr Andy Kaufman, who tried to get her to understand & admit that she did not discover a so-called HIV virus at all. Judy just kept talking herself in circles and making a fool of herself. She was ADAMANT that she discovered a virus.

Ever since then, I have a hard time taking her seriously. If she is just now suddenly coming around to the germ theory hoax, for me, its too little too late.

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Special Event Roundtable with Dr. Andrew Kaufman vs. Dr. Judy Mikovits

https://www.bitchute.com/video/7IZCuhy5s4mG/

Okay. I made it through the first hour of this almost 2 hour discussion. Kaufman has exited the discussion like a beaten animal licking his wounds, but not fully realizing that he picked a fight he should have avoided. I haven't paid much attention to Kaufman, because my gut told me he was harping on SARS-CoV-2 not having been isolated and therefore not having been proven to exist; but, other than that, he really has nothing more to offer. He does have quite a following of people who sort of idolize him for his "not isolated" mantra and they tend to make a lot of noise, when most of them really don't understand the subject matter.

Kaufman has a BS in molecular biology from MIT, received his MD from the University of South Carolina and completed his psychiatric training at Duke University Medical Center. From there he has become a practicing natural healing practitioner psychiatrist. He's not a virologist, nor even an epidemiologist, and appears to not have spent any significant research time in a lab, studying diseases. He certainly does not have the forty years of experience of Judy Mikovits, which became immediately apparent. Mikovits twice had to explain to him that "causative" is not the same as "causation"; but, he still didn't get it. I actually found Kaufman to be rude. He wanted to get into it with Mikovits regarding whether she has actually isolated HIV; but, had to be told by the moderator that they were there to discuss SARS-CoV-2/Covid-19. Kaufman has since had a more recent two hour discussion with Mikovits in September of 2022, which I'll watch within the next couple of weeks. I'm not looking forward to it. (-:

Kaufman and many other "SARS-CoV-2 hasn't been isolated" people have not taken the time to understand that the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA jabs contain synthetic/man-made mRNA strands, each wrapped for protection in a pathogenic lipidnanoprotein envelope which has the appropriate electrical charge to get the complex through a cell's membrane and into the cellular cytoplasm, where the mRNA code can be read like a ticker tape by ribosomes, which can then manufacturer the proteins coded for by the mRNA. Those proteins can be toxins, such as even snake venom peptides, which the subject's immune system will see as a toxin or toxins and will mount an autoimmune response. In other words, the mRNA jabs are meant to make you sick and have your immune system mount a response.

In this regard, I recommend to everyone to watch the following discussion between Dr. David Martin, Dr. Judy Mikovits, Canadian Constitutional attorney Rocco Galati, and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

"Dr. David Martin tells us this is not a vaccine but rather a medical device."

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ApnVWjiDdPeD/

One issue I have with Martin and Mikovits, however, is they are sometimes sloppy when speaking of SARS-CoV-2 as "the virus", when, if you specifically ask either of them, they readily state that SARS-CoV-2 doesn't exist. This sloppiness tends to confuse listeners.

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It would be helpful if you would post a link to this debate you are referencing so the rest of us may view it and then reply to you if we so choose. -- Thanks.

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Its an old interview and easily found on any alternative platform. Literally took me 2 seconds to search & find it. But yeah, sure, ill do it for you.

https://odysee.com/@Alternative-News:c/Virus-Isolation-Debate-DrAndrewKaufman-vs-JudyMikovits:f

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Thanks. The video is better at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/7IZCuhy5s4mG/

Btw, if I do a bitchute search on Judy Mikovits Andrew Kaufman, I get 67 matches. Granted many are duplicates; but, it will take me a few days to make certain I've viewed all the videos which were spawned by this discussion.

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( anagrams are a hybrid of backwards speech and numerology- in my mind !!) ;)

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That's pretty amazing Edward!

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Melkaye- here's a secret:

wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html

a foul tousle...

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Thank you Edward! I can't believe the amount of words that can be made from my first and last name. And Clint Eastwood's name, "Old West Action".... surely that wasn't a coincidence!

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That's a beaut !

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you don’t even want to know what my anagram was 🙀

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Lol! I have some really weird ones!😅

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I will admit to being somewhat ignorant of the massive numbers of tests and "theories" of how SARS CoV-2 actually causes COVID. I am too lazy to constantly engage in endless fool's errands reading explanations about the pathological processes and etiology of this"terrible virus." I don't even think this is agreed upon by all clinicians.

Let's assume that there really is an exogenous virus that is to blame for what seems to be a disease that causes the "cytokine storm" which best describes the "differential diagnosis" that describes how SARS CoV-2 eventually fills the lungs with chalky white debris of dying white blood cells. This seems to be the main consensus of the COVID symptoms. (I won't mention all of the other diseases or injuries blamed on the virus that are false and even absurd)

With HIV, the virus was said to KILL CD-4 T cells.

But from what I gather, SARS CoV-2 is theorized to be a virus that screws up communication in lymphocytes. between the ACE 2 and ACE 1 receptors. Is this really the pathogenic process? I have even heard that it hits older patients more often because the ACE 2 and ACE 1 are sort of senile, and can't remember very well!

It's like the ACE 2 says to ACE 1 "Turn on the white blood cells!" which turns on the flow, but ACE 1 forgets to turn them off, like and old person running bath water, until it floods and overflows.

It seems like we have been so assuming that the "virus" causes this disease, and really don't even have a clue as to HOW this Happens?

Is there any explanation or proof that we can test to see how SARS CoV-2 actually causes this disease?

Seems like no one is asking this question, and without a virus to test why would we even accept any explanation?

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I believe you are right on target with your last couple of sentences. Dr. David Martin and Dr. Judy Mikovits both now agree with others that there is no real-life SARS-CoV-2 "virus" other than the computer generated sequences in databases. All of the SARS coronavirus research funded by Fauci from 2003 to present was on such chimeric sequences. With regard to the mRNA injection products, a further complication is the lipidnanoparticle envelope which, itself, is a dangerous pathogen that Mikovits states can cause multiple sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's disease, Alzheimer's disease, and aggressive cancers, among other diseases; and, this has been known for decades. What we're really talking about here is a man-made chemical weapon being employed against biological entities.

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I am agnostic as to whether HIV exists but I am clear that - if it exists - it does not cause AIDS. How did I come to that conclusion? I read "Inventing the AIDS Virus" by Peter Duesberg. Duesberg was a world class microbiologist who had the temerity to question the establishment narrative on AiDS.

Reading that book established two things for me: 1) AIDS was/is caused by long term behaviors that significantly degrade the immune system over time - it was not caused by a virus; and 2) the medical complex - and in particular the NIH and FDA - was, even then, thoroughly corrupt.

If you really want to know the true history of the AIDS era, and indeed what AIDS even is, there is no better reference than "Inventing the AIDS Virus".

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I remember the court case in Adelaide , they brought in Gallo to defend HIV paradigm.

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yeah remember that?

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Not the result that was wanted but lack of money and trying to get the lawyer up to speed quickly was not easy

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We need to get our own honest court system set up, by the people and for the people, because there’s a lot of justice coming down the pike and the actors in the current court systems may very well be some of the ones on trial.

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Progress is a weapon...Disarm Progress...

Progress can be stopped from destroying everything (in it's path)...

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The Apocalypse is in full swing. I am of course referring to the old world meaning of the word.

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Germ theory will not go quietly into that good night. Corporations and people who make their living from the false science associated with germ theory will go to great lengths to protect their livelihood and reputations; it behooves those who challenge them to be very careful in their daily lives. These people can be ruthless, especially if censorship does not close down the debate.

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How very Fauci-like of Dr. Weiss. When questioned with science, respond with arrogant and dismissive insults.

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Hi Celia,

I was jumping this evening between listening to you and Jamie Lux and listening to this Mikovits interview. My shepherd was more interested in listening to Jamie's dog. <g> I'll listen to the Mikovits interview again tomorrow and see if I can write something. - I was truly happy that she finally flatly stated that the CDC has done absolutely no safety testing on any of their "vaccines", which is what Del Bigtree learned from a video recorded from a WHO meeting at the WHO headquarters devoted specifically to vaccine safety, when participants didn't know they were being recorded.

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Fauci is of the same cult which spawned the Big Bang theory.

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That's how priestcraft works. King James One of England identified what he termed ecclesiastical Frogs, or papal agents, who converse with and manipulate government leaders. This was 400 years ago. It's basically a priesthood of secret agents who do evil of all kinds: "It is said in the 16th chapter (Rev.), that God plaguing him [the devil] for these aforesaid abuses, he shall be so far from repentance, as by the contrary he shall find out a new sort of vermin, that is, a new Ecclesiastical order, which are called their frogs (3), who shall move and entice the Princes of the earth to join with him, and make war against the faithful, pressing utterly to destroy them: and of that battle, and the end thereof doth this place make mention. This quote was from my recent post: https://palamambron.substack.com/p/a-fruitful-meditation-of-rev-20-the

Who do you think is doing all the sabotage to our food supply and the deliberate poisoning of the environment? Frogs are.

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Hopefully all of this info and the your book being republished will wake more up to the truth about these people behind the lies.

Dr. Alexander and JJ Couey are onto something about the cloning of the virus too.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/there-was-no-covid-19-pandemic-boom

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