You make good points. As a former MD and Immunologist, who also had “Covid”, I believe there is/was a virus that is essentially a re-branded flu, hyped to hysteria by media/globalists/big pharma, all with overlapping agendas. I also believe 5G can and will exacerbate it and the graphene oxide laden jabs.
This is because the Sars-Cov-2 virus does not exist.
It has NEVER existed.
Influenza A and B have been rebranded and remarketed as COVID-19 (Influenza C)
It is as simple as that.
Sars-Cov-2 is a fairy-tale.
The gain of function research for this alleged virus conducted at the Wuhan Lab in China and under the direction and management of Dr.Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab and other Satanic Globalists is actually a cover-story for even more heinous crimes.
Dr. Robert Redfield former CDC Director, Dr.Richard Fleming, Senator Rand Paul, The Highwire's Del Bigtree, Dr.Judy Mikovits, Prof.Peter Gotzsche, Dr.Sherri Tenpenny, Alex Jones, Mike Adams and many others are all lying to you.
Some are lying to you knowingly others out of ignorance and naivete.
The Satanic Globalists want you to think that the Sar-Cov-2 virus exists because the truth is much worse.
They also want America to start a war with China but that is a story for another time.
Getting back to this fairy tale, there has never been any research on Sars-Cov-2 because the virus does not exist.
It has never been isolated nor purified nor has it ever satisfied Koch's postulates (see Dr.Tom Cowan's work on the “Contagion Myth” et al).
In addition, consider how deadly COVID-19 really is.
CDCs own data shows that the COVID-19 infection to fatality risk (IFR) for those under 50 years of age is less than 0.03% (3 out of 10,000).
For those under 20 years of age the risk is 0.002% (2 out of 100,000).
Meanwhile children are virtually immune from COVID-19.
Obviously there has been no productive "gain of function" research on this very benign and relatively harmless fake virus.
Yeah, it's so deadly that a 60 year old over-the-counter medication called Hydroxychloroquine easily combats COVID-19 (and now the anti-parasite drug Ivermectin).
If the Satanists at the Wuhan Lab really were working on making the Sars-Cov-2 virus more deadly it is clear from the above data they have failed.
All of the research at the Wuhan Lab was instead focused on the COVID-19 vaccine.
The virus is a cover story for the creation of an undetectably deadly vaccine.
This gain of function research at Wuhan went into making the vaccine a biologically poisonous and toxic weapon of mass murder and an instrument of genocide.
Where is the proof of this ?
The proof is hiding in plain sight.
Take the symptoms and ailments of those allegedly afflicted with the COVID-19 Sars-Cov-2 virus and then compare that to the symptoms and ailments of those poisoned with the COVID-19 vaccine. They are completely different.
(1)---Sars-Cov-2 symptoms/ailments: coughing, slight fever, sniffles, loss of taste (which normally happens when you have a cold),
In the first group, the former, we have flu like symptoms.
In the second group, the latter, from the vaccine, we see neuro-degenerative symptoms like muscle spasms and paralysis to name only a few.
Why the huge difference if the virus and vaccine both allegedly contain the SPIKE PROTEIN ?
Because we have been lied too.
There is NO spike protein on the Sar-Cov-2 virus. Because the virus Sars-Cov-2 does not exist.
The SPIKE PROTEIN can be designed and manufactured without the need for any fake virus (on a computer - which it was)
Snake and spider venom is replete with spike proteins. That is what is in the vaccine. No virus needed instead we have Spider venom! (No one knows what spider or snake was used).
The fake virus was created out of thin air for the vaccine. Not the other way around.
They had the vaccine already on hand (2019) and then invented a reason to use it.
Thus the invented concocted reason for the vaccine becomes the non-existent fairy-tale Sars-Cov-2 virus.
No gain of function reasearch on the virus.
No laboratory man-made virus.
NO VIRUS AT ALL.
The only biological weapon and instrument of genocide is the VACCINE.
Excellent work. I believe it. I also knew it was a scam from the start, without knowing all these details. I too will not take the shot. Would you mind if I share this on my weekly radio show?
Jan, I can’t confirm with certainty that snake & spider venom was used, (the above comments I copied from a site on the website Odyssey where “someone” had written this comment). I did some research on specific venomous spiders, especially the “funnel web” which is one of the deadliest as the symptoms are similar to what people get if they are bitten ie paralysis, clots, spasms. The snake venom was difficult to pin down as there are also many deadly venomous snakes. There are also other nasties placed in this jab that would affect everyone like graphene oxide, polyethylene glycol (PEG) which is toxic in the body. Gene altering was another uncertainty, and has NEVER been used in any trials previously, so they didn’t know what ramifications, short or long term that would occur in people. I too believe they already had the vaccine available as I’ve read on several excellent websites that this was all planned in advance, way before 2019. After “The Event” in Sept. of 2019 which layed out plans for a fake virus circulating the globe and how events would pan out, I knew that all this was a con job right from the get-go.
The spike protein was another con job to make the virus look “deadly “ and can easily be designed on a computer if you know what to do and the same with all the computer graphic charts which were fabricated to make it look like the virus was surging across all countries. All probably paid for by the Elites and big pharma. Then it took off and with the help of all those that were involved including the media, it got bigger than Ben Hur.
Dr. David Martin - from wall street/patents expert/UN financial advisor (long list) believes its a chimera - 3 in one toxic blend that behaves like the what they insist in medical schools - viruses --- this one was made in the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, with help from some Chinese hands...to perhaps prove once and for all the theory that viruses actually exist as they describe them, and are great jumpers.
Bless your bravery - few dare go to 5G and the graphine...Dr. Cowan quotes research tht says some radiation frequencies renders oxygen molecules in our blood almost useless. Scary stuff...
Great analysis. I am in favor getting down to the nitty gritty of the "viral vs. non-viral debate" as this progresses. By all means!
But millions of lives are at stake now, and the preventative measures which could have saved 85% of these cases, as unnecessary deaths commenced, are powerful arguments. McCullough boldly identifies this as premeditated, and a deliberate act to a "railroad the population into mass vaccination" This is Mass Murder!
I think the point of the virus vs. non-virus debate is that there is no need for preventative measures or early treatments for anything. COVID is entirely an illusion. There are no lives at stake, and no potential saving of 85% from COVID deaths because COVID is completely undefined. Since PCR is a fraud, it is meaningless for McCullough, Zelenko and others to say "almost all my COVID patients have been cured by x, y, or z." "COVID patient" is a meaningless term. It is a muddled message McCullough sends out, and aside from the warnings against the vax, most of it is unproductive misinformation which perpetuates a myth. The only threat appears to be damage from 5G and the vax. Getting down to the nitty gritty as you say is the fastest way to make this clear.
Cela Since this disaster began, I think I have seen at least 20 people become serious ill. Some of them died even before the "jab" was out there. (including a good friend of mine) I know a couple who are both very ill, one refused the jab, and her husband took the bio-weapon jab. They live on a farm which is probably not near any 5G towers. Perhaps he shed on her? People are coming into the offices very sick, most of them test negative.
We will have a memorial service for a man who fought for about a month for his life in the hospital this Saturday. The gave him remdesivir against the families orders. Another man is now fighting for his life, needing a kidney and developing heart issues, while quarantined for "COVID." He is the father of a lady where my wife works. At that same place, the owner has been down for about 10 days with one hell of a chest cold. She tested positive, took monoclonal antibodies, later tested negative abut still very sick. We finally got her some Quercetin and she is doing better. (recommended by both Zelenko and McCullough) I have taken it myself and it cleared up a bad chest cold I had OVERNIGHT.
What I am trying to point out is that there is a "flu" or parasitic pneumonia(s) going around. "IT" is not one thing. But the public doesn't grasp that. "Flu season" has been around for years. The issue is NOT about virology. It is about proper treatment.
Why would Fauci and company care at all if for real science, when they have ignored it all this time with a "virus" that has a 99.7% survival rate? This like talking to Mengele,
I keep trying to explain to people why the virus vs. no-virus debate is a moot point. Why? It is extremely naive (no offense intended) to Ass ume that it would, when all of this science and mistreatment has progressed. The Public does NOT understand bad science. They only understand BAD people!
What we have to do is get people well.
Zelenko has treated over 6,000 patients and seen them recover. This is about people's lives. We need all the help we can get in exposing this world-wide drug cartel and tyranny. We are dealing with mass genocide and the loss of our entire freedoms. "Science is not even the issue" (sorry to say)
I agree that treatment is a top priority for whatever is causing the mystery illnesses, some of which appear to respond well to antiparasitics.
I'm not suggesting that the virus vs. no-virus (VNV) debate be directed at the general public. I agree this is futile.
Rather, I think it should be a top (not secondary) priority for analysis among doctors & scientists parallel to the treatment efforts, because it will expedite the process of elimination which would get us to the root cause of the issue. If we delay this discussion, we will continue to pour water on fires without determining the source and fuel of the fire.
Several analysts have suggested that masks and the PCR swabs themselves introduce parasites and even synthetic nanoworms into the body. If we reach a milestone with the VNV debate among doctors, the irrelevance of masks & PCR tests would become apparent, and a potential origin of the fire would be stamped out.
In addition, there have been recent announcements proclaiming the success of 5G from space. Intelsat announced this last month. It is likely that testing of such has been conducted for a couple years in various parts of the world leading to a surge in illness, whether parasitic or not. As of September 2020, Musk alone had launched 700 satellites as part of his 5G StarLink network.
Reaching a milestone with doctors on VNV would help brush aside the idea of a contagious virus and focus more scrutiny on other causes, not least the unapproved 5G deployments and their horrendous health effects, and may more speedily stamp out another source of the fire which will soon rage exponentially.
My point is, an open and vigorous discussion about VNV among doctors and scientists--not Joe public--should occupy the same priority as treatment because it would expedite the identification of the root causes by eliminating red herrings.
I must insist that science is most certainly the issue.
I gave you a "like" on one of your comments because I do agree, at least in principle, about your focus on the essence of this issue. But bear with me if I vent some frustrations about what I see here, after what we saw happen over 27 years ago when this same issue came up during the HIV debate.
Now granted that the "COVID" threat is 10,000 times bigger today than HIV/AIDS was back then, and is threatening our entire civilization worldwide, rather than a minority of IV drug addicts, gay men and those poor people in Africa. (all of which really didn't effect most of the "straight" white world of everyday folks). We are dealing with a world-wide lockdown now and forced injection of bioweapon this time around. Why?
Because we didn't hold Fauci and Gallo responsible for creating the terror tactics they used, while poisoning 300,000 (or more according to stats from John Lauritsen's research) with AZT in the US, and millions worldwide. Since then Gates and even bigger players now are BACK!
Now keep in mind that the Perth Group and Lanka were still in the embryonic stage at that time with the "isolation and no-virus" conceptions. We have come a long ways since then. But at best, even with the optimal amount of honest debate and sincere evaluations, we are at LEAST 10 years away from acceptance and redirection concerning these new discoveries.
But let me direct your attention to the real issue. We are dealing with the world's worst known criminals, and they control the purse strings and the mass media. They are also backed by hidden powers that want to destroy about 90% of the world's population. And as you pointed out, they have other means as well, like 5G, warfare, starvation and fear driven propaganda.
From my bitter experience, (which I will not go into) I have to tell you that as bright as our scientific minds are, we are actually childishly naive about believing we can present ANY scientific debate that will stop this vile and genocidal agenda with facts they will so quickly discard. They will make sure the public (who will only get confused) never gives our points any credence.
Here is the bottom line. The "powers that be" DON"T CARE. The don't want facts. They censor them. We are confronting a world wide cabal of drug dealers and mafioso, who will only be stopped by arrest and penalty. These are criminals--like McCullough said.
What these people have done is terrorize the world, crying FIRE, FIRE in a crowded theater and we are standing in the stairway as people start stampeding down. The best we can do is try to pull people out of the crowd, and ARREST the culprits ASAP. Terrorism is all about creating irrational fear, and you will never win any sensible debate about this in time. Where were you in 1993? when this entire debate started? You put too much faith in something that will never be fruitful.
I understand and share your frustration. I've been on to these people since shortly after 9/11. I think demons describes them better than criminals. I believe the momentum is on their side and believe their disinformation grid is next to invincible. As is their grip on most professional associations, medical or otherwise, and the minds of doctors and scientists, especially in the West. I believe all avenues of judicial and legislative push back is futile. They are the central banking cartel underpinning every modern institution.
I also believe the medical crisis is just the tip of the iceberg. The key domino which has been flicked and will result in a cascading societal & economic collapse, bringing about their desired controlled demolition and culling of the world, most likely accompanied by war and famine.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I am one of the people who are urging people to work on PLAN B. To cut off from the system and start rural communities with independent supply chains, energy, schooling, healthcare, etc. This is a life-altering move which most will never contemplate, let alone do. But it is my most realistic outlook. That being said, if we go down we should go down fighting and helping others.
I'll stress again that the VNV debate is not to be directed at the 'powers that be' or at the people. This is futile. I'm saying let's push the real science among breakaway factions of the scientific community to expand the pool of practicing doctors and scientists who are waking up or at the border. I am proposing a rogue movement, not a debate with the establishment. The target should also include intelligent, influential civilians and natural leaders of whom there are plenty.
I'd also suggest that we observe and leverage different parts of the world.
I am Ethiopian, and I can tell you that three heads of state (Tanzania, Burundi & Haiti) all refused lockdowns and vaccines. In the case of Tanzania & Burundi, the presidents kicked out the WHO. The Tanzanian president sent samples of fruit, goats and motor oil to the WHO lab for PCR testing and most came back positive. He exposed the scam to his entire nation and kicked the liars out. He urged his people to use tried & true natural means to maintain good health. In all three cases, the heads of state wound up dead within months of their publicized resistance. The world press called them science-deniers who died of COVID.
Ethiopia is barely 1 or 2 % vaccinated and we only have about 7,000 reports of COVID deaths out of 110 M people. Tanzania has reported only 50 deaths out of 60 M people. 0.00008 %. This could be an indication of people who woke up early and just bloody refuse to play along with masks, tests and vaccines, even though the powers "handled" their leaders. This attitude could be exported--and it is based on knowledge.
Africa as a whole is less than 6 % vaxxed and "COVID" is practically non-existent.
More observers in the West are noticing this blatant paradox and are spreading the word. This may be tied to lack of 5G satellite coverage, or more natural foods.
On November 24, South Africa refused offers from Pfizer & Moderna to send the country more vaccines. That same day, the WHO announced the discovery of Omicron in SA / Botswana.
My point is, some governments are less captured than others. Some medical & scientific associations are less mind-controlled than others. More empirical and less beholden to medical & academic cartels. Some populations are more skeptical than others, and more wary of the presence of evil lurking in officialdom.
Africa, and likely India and South America are fertile ground for such knowledge to take hold, and it could become--pardon me--contagious.
I don't have the solutions, and I acknowledge the roadblocks you raise. But I think endless treatment of a problem without addressing the root will also never be fruitful. This is why I think the push back should consist of both treatment *and* spreading knowledge.
Like I said, I don't see much hope, but if there is to be pushback, it should happen on both fronts--treatment & knowledge.
As you know, we are like generals in a war room facing the same enemy, but with slightly differing strategies. Both are important and necessary in this battle to achieve victory. The questions are: How much fire power do we place on specific targets, without taking any casualties of "collateral damage" by killing our own troops and allies?
Wining some specific battles does not always equate to wining the war. But each battle won on a number of fronts, does contribute to the final victory. And this is vital, as we face both medical/scientific issues and this horrific criminal enterprise.
I think the graphic you posted of African statistics is VERY powerful and revealing. https://imgur.com/GBl4Qca
I also want to NAME the leaders you mentioned as VERY important people in this battle, though the army of phony "fact checkers" are doing damage control to try and annul any connections to all of them, even if they are not related to the COVID issue.
Five leaders: Jovenel Moise of Haiti, John Magufuli of Tanzania, Hamed Bakayoko of Ivory Coast, Ambrose Dlamini of eSwatini, and Pierre Nkurunziza of Burundi. (CIA Reuters link below)
I think our best approach toward the medical "establishment" is civil and informative conversations with those who will actually engage in the scientific controversies, where we can suggest that they investigate things like the origin of SARS CoV-2.
I had a brief interaction online with a PCR test and viral physician, and I brought up the Drosten./Corman papers, which as you know, are now in serious reconsideration and recall. Especially now since even the "pirmers." which should provide absolute "viral identification" are currently being debunked along with the rest of this computer-generated "virus" fabrication. I got this lead from Celia Farber's outstanding investigative work awhile back and the story keeps growing!
I never heard back form this PCR testing expert, and I have to presume he was deep into consideration, probably even more now.
I cite this as a victory on the scientific battlefield.
Liberty Council is a legal firm that recently lost a major US court decision on "religious exemptions." Like too many other law firms, they presented virtually NO scientific analysis in what was basically a 1st Amendment debate and decision. These attorneys NEED what we present by scientific analysis as part of the case!
But for a moment consider this:
The LAW is on our side, all the way from the Nuremberg codes, to international, national, state and local jurisdictions. What if local county sheriffs convened grand jury warrants for ARREST of all public officials as essentially drug dealers, operating a RICO-styled syndicated mafioso, forcing people to lose jobs, homes, health care and even their lives to this filthy operation?
What we need is law enforcement. And that is where we include the scientific proof as evidence.
It's important to remember that until very recently, these folks were 100% still in the matrix. I view the apostates as critical allies and cut them a little slack when they fail to talk about virus isolation, or follow the trail of vaccine lies going back to polio and smallpox. I've heard Dr. Malone occasionally make a comment about "protecting the elderly", or reminisce about the time Ebola was looming large, and he got the call to head some task force to fight it. OK, whatever. Robert Malone is doing an incredible amount of good. He and McCullough are all over the place, physically and virtually, fighting this, at great cost to themselves, There's a special place in heaven for them, even if they never stop to ask the question about virus isolation. Which they may yet still do - they are, like the rest of us, on a journey,
Dr. McCullough has gone a long way, and one needs to bear in mind that he has been steeped in systemic allopathic medicine for decades. Not only is his courage admirable, but also the flexibility of mind that he has managed to maintain. There are few people like him.
Dr McCullough is a big hero in my book. Instead of sending people home with early stage sickness, he took action. At great personal risk, he emphatically speaks out against the “vaccinations “. Let not the argument whether the virus is farcical or an engineered bioweapon deter us from fighting the truly demonic objective at play to depopulate and/or enslave mankind.
No'one goes from complete trust in doctors to "there is no virus". Not even in normal circumstances. Doing it while in fear and bombarded with propaganda - you may as well talk to them about the tooth fairy.
Let people make the move one step at a time. I like Cowan but think his idealist attitude is a personal choice - maybe he can't face going along with the untruth that there is a virus, which is fine and I respect - but it's not necessarily useful. Let's all do what we think is our own personal way of fighting the battle - based on our own knowledge and who we interact with - and let the truth come out how Life wants it too.
thanks for all your efforts Celia. Its so tricky. From my research and proximity to Drs. Cowan and Kaufman and Stefan Lanka in Germany (a little more difficult to understand his english but love his energy and his proofs) I do keep coming back to there are no virus's. If we go from there, then everything falls down. Dr Tom consistently says the humans get sick from toxicity, starvation and injury. When I apply this to my own life and that of my family, this seems to bear out. When we get sick, when our bodies are so toxic that there is cellular breakdown, fevers, mucous, coughing etc., we have these symptoms. They are fairly standard. So currently the levels of toxicity are increasing, as well as over vaccine use (since 1986) How many are now required for our children to attend public school (speaking of money)? Glyphosate in our water, air and food, still don't know what those trails are in the sky - everyday where I live in upstate NY and then the sky goes sort of beige. Theres certainly much we don't know. Dr. McCullough hits on some very important points and he's not sensational which I appreciate. So these various medicines and herbs and possibly supplements can help with the detoxing which is what getting "sick" really is. This summer many of us in a cluster were diagnosed with Lyme. I'm not so sure- our symptoms were very close to what people think this alleged virus is. Same symptoms. We took anti parasitic herbs and detoxifiers. So I'm back to poisoning. As well, living in the world right now is quite painful for everyone whether you are in the mass psychosis or standing outside of it whispering but but there's no virus. People are sick and dying from a corporate/medical military cartel, that pollutes with abandon, cares nothing for humanity, and according to McCullough, blocked doctors and their patients from getting help. Many people need to be held responsible for this. I will listen to the rest of it now.
McCullough is using the tools ordained by his high priesthood position in order to warn against the vaccine. His apparent disregard for terrain theory can be called a necessary evil. McCullogh is far too smart to ignore the GIANT red-Pill but refrains from engaging the beast in order to expedite an immediate cure to the weaponized injection that has nothing to do with a vaccine of virus cure. Acceptance of Terrain Theory is a major nightmare for the the poison needle cult.
I had a similar discussion with a co-admin of a Telegram channel--I am for making Cowan, Kaufman and Lanka the leading actors, while using McCullough, Robert Malone and the like (his go-to guys) very selectively as a supporting cast, especially when they warn against the jabs, and when they don't muddy that message with misinformation about Wuhan, viruses & variants, PCR tests and other facets of the delusion.
My wariness with posting from the support cast stems from where this narrative may be heading: a confrontation with or acute antagonism toward China in the event that, for example, they turn up the 5G to a deadly level where masses of people would die. This would no doubt be blamed on a lethal new variant of the gain-of-function, escaped Wuhan virus. I can see this dialectic building toward a WW3 scenario.
McCullough & Co's narrative opens a pandora's box which will be hard to close later. So my stance with my co-admin is that we nip the virus narrative in the bud and stick with the unadulterated truth of Cowan et al, even though this may reduce the initial audience. But persistently and consistently presenting this narrative will grow to a substantial segment of fervent converts invigorated by the whole truth, not a semi-scared lot imbued with half truths who will fall for the next deception around the corner. Cheers.
Dr. Stefan Lanka (viruses are not pathogenic) and Dr. Peter McCullough (accepts the general pathogenic theory and has successfully used prophylactic treatments for the ill) are not mutually exclusive, nor are the hypotheses of terrain vs germ. If we consider that viruses are essential symbiotics within a healthy immune system (innate and adaptive), serve as gatekeepers to the human genome (30% human DNA is said to be viral), and can even function as a type of cellular language directing immune response within the virome, their presence (and hence association) with disease/imbalance is understandable. They are flags that mark the spot and may well be director generals that coordinate foot soldiers and canons (killer lymphocytes) against an enemy. We have much to learn, and humility is the first rule of good science, as it is in good religion.
If we accept further the likelihood that viruses can and have been weaponized, and lab synthesized, to carry cytotoxic payloads (CRISPR-CAS9 hack-coded mRNA bits to convert a normal cell into an IPSc, "software for life" Moderna calls it) then we have a scenario where normal law abiding "civilians", or to keep to our analogy above, possibly even "4 star generals", are unwittingly now carrying "bombs" walking down the trafficked streets of the immune system.
Add to this the ringing anew of the eugenic bells and the detailed planning and modeling of Dark Winter, Clade X, et al., which are prepared to leverage each "explosion" -- that is, small spikes in real IFR, or even perceived "cases" based on high CT RT-PCR (which are as good as the real thing when it hits the media-massaged waves of mainstream media) then it becomes obvious that the water of science has been mingled with the spirits of political and financial power.
But you are absolutely right. The forked narrative has not been looked at honestly and so we must revisit the issue of isolation. Sampled bits of viral genome filled in with snippets of math modeling to give us a SARS-COV-2 profile is troubling. If this model then becomes "the" causal baseline for "the Great COVID" as disease, the dialing in of RT-PCR (really they just look for the e gene, common to all in the corona group), and the backbone to the identification and tracking of variants (that differ less than 1% from the math model, and do not escape naturally acquired corss-immunity) it all becomes an illogical line of reasoning that hurts the rational brain. Is the math model a cover-up of the real code, a hacked code, a sinister hand? Or, is it mere best-guess science?
"I don’t see why one can’t learn from somebody who holds a different position. I was certainly baffled why McCullough thinks there is a virus, but I also am baffled by people who seem to conclude there is no syndrome sending people to the hospital."
I'm not baffled myself. Neither is Jon Rappoport, who wrote a blog post addressing those who say "But, but, but... people are dying."
Tom Cowan expresses frustration at the illogical position that many take that the existence of the Sars CoV 2 virus is unimportant. Andrew Kaufman echoes that sentiment. (The video link follows. It's along video.) It's illogical 'among other things'. If you are a professional in the health care field and don't know that Sars CoV 2 hasn't been isolated - proven to exist - then you should get into other work. I don't believe that people like Peter Mcullough don't know, which colors the situation 'sinister' in my view. If you lie to me, I have no interest in anything else you have to say.
I happen to lean towards Drs. Cowan, Lanka, and Kaufman, but at this stage it is advisable not to be dogmatic. I am also perfectly willing to stick with the idea that the earth is round despite all the indications it need not be the case. The established paradigm is workable, and one has something to hold on to even if it need not be the way things are. The same goes for viruses.
Oh boy! I wrote my 1st posts in this thread in response to other posts without either a. hearing the interview or b. reading your post - which I just did!
i could not agree more! Along the way I have tried enlighten friends and family to the inconsistencies in the narrative and nonsense in the "Science" (Nonscience™️) and the very early things I found about Fauci at the beginning. All the while sending any treatment protocols I knew of if I discovered someone I knew to be ill.
It frustrated me that PM would not answer the burning question repeatedly but then he laid it bare. I think both he is protecting someone and also afraid for himself. I've only just gotten to that point in the interview.
It so saddened me to see a friend's social media post just today of her 10 year old's 1st injection. This is someone I went over the Cormen Drosten review with in person and I was not articulate or convincing enough to penetrate the fear (Nor do I really hold very much influence in their lives TBH).
Thank you to PM for coming right out and stating this is a coordinated effort to get everyone vaccinated.
Thank you for posting. Since the beginning of the "pandemic," I have relied on opinions of many doctors and scientists that I felt were being truthful, and Dr. McCullough was one of them. I think he seems like an honest and kind human being that only wants to help people.
Does anyone remember Dr. Zelenko in an interview stating something to the effect that he does believe that there is a covid virus? I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I seem to remember him saying that tests showed that his patients did not have influenza A or influenza B, so therefore there had to be another virus, which must be covid... or something like that.
I would suggest the relatively recent Mike Adams interview, below, of Zelenko, where the latter now indicates that he is aware of the U.S. coronavirus patent application trail and U.S. government funding trail which proves we are dealing with an artificial biological weapon which has been released in a bioterrorism, global war.
Watch the interview from time = 1:41 to 3:41
Mike Adams With Dr. Zev Zelenko - Covid Kill shots Are A Depopulation Weapon Against Humanity
My father had the low oxygen and other covid symptoms years ago.
They couldn't find out what caused it... He got better after a few days in the hospital.
Recently, saw an interview with a South African doctor who said that this low oxygen condition with ground glass responded to allergy treatments.
I also read a study that showed a correlation between the flu shot and those who had bad covid in 2020. Hmm... Vaccines do cause allergies.... Hmm my father used to get the yearly useless garbage flu shot...
Hmm.. not to mention the other toxins like glysophate in our food.
Oh and most Americans are deficient in vitamin D, especially bad in winter low sun.
I just had Dr William Trebing, author of Goodbye Germ Theory, published 2004, over my house the other day and we did a live broadcast. it was my 1st, but i think it went well besides some audio trailing off a little bit here and there. But, yeah, im coming to that understanding myself, I don't know if the public can cope with the 'no virus' aspect YET. I hope, but it may take a bit. anyway, keep it up, i appreciate you!
The remarks are understood and accepted. I agree with the basic thrust of them. However, people like Cowan and Kaufman are being insulted and demeaned by the people like McCullough (not meaning him explicitly as I don't know if his is a culprit) and Cowan said recently, having insulted/demeaned nobody from that camp, that he is about to affirmatively respond. So people like McCullough are in the old divide and conquer posture. Invoking Cowan's charging money for a (small) portion of his content or Rudolph Steiner is, however, rather ad hominem. After all, this site has a subscription page and Steiner says many intelligent things (and Cowan is not a disciple of Steiner or anthroposophy, even if he likes some of the ideas). As to ivermectin and the like, there are no new viral diseases, just what we've always had--various toxins, parasites and other poisons. Sofia Smallstorm recently cited a scientific friend of hers who said that if you took literally everything off the face of the earth, you would be left with an outline of everything in the form of nematodes, a parasite that is everywhere. Not saying this is the explanation for the apparent effectiveness of ivermectin, but perhaps...
I am not aware of these battles and can't take them into consideration when navigating news/analysis. I've wasted enough time trying to figure out who insulted whom, in which camp. Being insulted can be a sign of self importance, but not always. Anyway we don't have time for anything except lifeboats.
I guess we ALL agree that parasites are the big story?
Generally agree, Celia. Why would anti-parasitic drugs be so effective here? And, as we all know, parasites have been found in some of the vaccine vials. Of course, there is also 5G, which Cowan and La Quinta Columna (among others) think is important (confirmed by a new PubMed study indicating that 5G implicates covid conditions), and the graphene oxide/hydroxide as part of the link up to the new control grid as well as being toxic in its own rite.
Exactly. Why are anti-parasite drugs effective. I have always wondered why an anti-malarial e.g. HCQ - was effective? There is something there. Are people who experience the symptoms experiencing a parasite infestation?
Yes. That was interesting Andrew Kaufman looks at that in his recent "Covid 19 Myths part 4" if I recall. (I saw it somewhere and I think that that's where I saw it.) Carrie Madej also saw something similar. I have a crappy short term memory, but researchers have been interested in those particular entities for a long time. I'm trying to remember the name for them, but they have interesting characteristics. You can, apparently, chop them up in a blender and if you leave the mess in one spot, the parts of the hydra alone, they will reattach. They've labelled them 'immortals' or something.
It isn't clear to me whether it's something that people like Andrew and Carrie are sure is there or not. I know that Andrew mentioned a "The Exposé" article that looks at findings that certain vials of covid 19 injections are responsible for all the deaths. As Andrew notes, If that's true, then they are deliberately killing some (for whatever reason). That also shows, if true, that they are putting different things in different lots and vials.
I am terrible with graphs, especially when I can't even see them clearly. The presenter seems to want us to believe that vaccines aren't normally harmful. We are already a universe apart right there.
You probably meant Dr. Madej. Try looking up Dr. Franc Zalewski talking about "aluminium-based lifeforms" in the covid vax. No link, but I could upload his video if need be.
The claim for both HCQ and Ivermectin is they have antiviral properties, esp. when combined with zinc. There is also a study suggesting HCQ may work in cancer treatment, so it is a complex area. You might enjoy looking into weaponized mycoplasma (Donald Scott, 2016, and other sources).
Actually, that was what Andrew Kaufman suggests. Doctors are not trained to look for parasites. Therefore, when patients are given anti-parasite drugs (still toxic) for other things and improve, what is missed is that those patients had parasites that they just got rid of. (I have issues with that explanation, but I put it out there for your consideration.)
If it is parasites - what kind are they/it and what caused them/it to to either manifest or, if already in the body, cause them/it to proliferate?
It was suggested by Clif High that perhaps what was aerosolized was not the virus, but the spike protein itself. Or maybe something else was released like an aerosolized malaria-type parasite that mimicked symptoms so they could push the vaccine narrative and inject the toxic protein; the real illness-causer? So many possibilities - so few answers.
One thing that is for sure, though. Right now, as a result of this lie we've endured the last two years with more to come plus clean-up, a lot of good medical minds, both in the lab's and on the front lines treating patients, are beginning to give this whole public health issue and viruses and germ theory and terrain et al - a real good think. Thinking outside of the box is the new thinking inside this box. Now - that's science, Fauci. Out with the old - in with the new. Time to clean out your desk. Anthony. I can hear your mother yelling at you!
I seriously doubt that they could spray proteins. The biggest challenge for the nasties playing with this stuff is preserving their synthetic material (proteins for example) so that they can survive the trip from creation to a victim's insides. Stuff like RNA and proteins disintegrate almost immediately outside their natural environments. They use lipids (which I think polyethylene glycol PEG is) to encapsulate the material that they want to inject, otherwise they couldn't even use the material. But I don't think that they'd be able to aerosolize anything, lipids or not. That's not my expert opinion. That's what I gather from listening to many videos.
For me it comes down to - there are a lot more questions than answers. "They" are trying to tell us that they have the answer(s). I call BS. It's becoming obvious a lot more questions needs be asked (Their answers don't even make sense half the time).. Even if the questions are crazy or naive. It opens up the mind for better minds to think it through and come up with better answers that lead to better questions. As old as Socrates.!
McCullough is using the tools ordained by his high priesthood position in order to warn against the vaccine. His apparent disregard for terrain theory can be called a necessary evil. McCullogh is far too smart to ignore the GIANT red-Pill but refrains from engaging the beast in order to expedite an immediate cure to the weaponized injection that has nothing to do with a vaccine of virus cure. Acceptance of Terrain Theory is a major nightmare for the the poison needle cult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkjAJy7s5w&t=98s
Dr, McCullough's RUMBLE channel - https://rumble.com/c/c-1240611
Thank you.
Thank you.
You make good points. As a former MD and Immunologist, who also had “Covid”, I believe there is/was a virus that is essentially a re-branded flu, hyped to hysteria by media/globalists/big pharma, all with overlapping agendas. I also believe 5G can and will exacerbate it and the graphene oxide laden jabs.
THERE IS NO VIRUS
Focus on the vaccine, the virus is a cover story.
This is because the Sars-Cov-2 virus does not exist.
It has NEVER existed.
Influenza A and B have been rebranded and remarketed as COVID-19 (Influenza C)
It is as simple as that.
Sars-Cov-2 is a fairy-tale.
The gain of function research for this alleged virus conducted at the Wuhan Lab in China and under the direction and management of Dr.Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab and other Satanic Globalists is actually a cover-story for even more heinous crimes.
Dr. Robert Redfield former CDC Director, Dr.Richard Fleming, Senator Rand Paul, The Highwire's Del Bigtree, Dr.Judy Mikovits, Prof.Peter Gotzsche, Dr.Sherri Tenpenny, Alex Jones, Mike Adams and many others are all lying to you.
Some are lying to you knowingly others out of ignorance and naivete.
The Satanic Globalists want you to think that the Sar-Cov-2 virus exists because the truth is much worse.
They also want America to start a war with China but that is a story for another time.
Getting back to this fairy tale, there has never been any research on Sars-Cov-2 because the virus does not exist.
It has never been isolated nor purified nor has it ever satisfied Koch's postulates (see Dr.Tom Cowan's work on the “Contagion Myth” et al).
In addition, consider how deadly COVID-19 really is.
CDCs own data shows that the COVID-19 infection to fatality risk (IFR) for those under 50 years of age is less than 0.03% (3 out of 10,000).
For those under 20 years of age the risk is 0.002% (2 out of 100,000).
Meanwhile children are virtually immune from COVID-19.
Obviously there has been no productive "gain of function" research on this very benign and relatively harmless fake virus.
Yeah, it's so deadly that a 60 year old over-the-counter medication called Hydroxychloroquine easily combats COVID-19 (and now the anti-parasite drug Ivermectin).
If the Satanists at the Wuhan Lab really were working on making the Sars-Cov-2 virus more deadly it is clear from the above data they have failed.
All of the research at the Wuhan Lab was instead focused on the COVID-19 vaccine.
The virus is a cover story for the creation of an undetectably deadly vaccine.
This gain of function research at Wuhan went into making the vaccine a biologically poisonous and toxic weapon of mass murder and an instrument of genocide.
Where is the proof of this ?
The proof is hiding in plain sight.
Take the symptoms and ailments of those allegedly afflicted with the COVID-19 Sars-Cov-2 virus and then compare that to the symptoms and ailments of those poisoned with the COVID-19 vaccine. They are completely different.
(1)---Sars-Cov-2 symptoms/ailments: coughing, slight fever, sniffles, loss of taste (which normally happens when you have a cold),
flu-like symptoms.
(2)---COVID-19 VACCINE symptoms/ailments: stroke, brain aneurysm, blood clots, heart attacks, paralysis, blindness, mass skin rashes, anaphylaxis, coma, death.
In the first group, the former, we have flu like symptoms.
In the second group, the latter, from the vaccine, we see neuro-degenerative symptoms like muscle spasms and paralysis to name only a few.
Why the huge difference if the virus and vaccine both allegedly contain the SPIKE PROTEIN ?
Because we have been lied too.
There is NO spike protein on the Sar-Cov-2 virus. Because the virus Sars-Cov-2 does not exist.
The SPIKE PROTEIN can be designed and manufactured without the need for any fake virus (on a computer - which it was)
Snake and spider venom is replete with spike proteins. That is what is in the vaccine. No virus needed instead we have Spider venom! (No one knows what spider or snake was used).
The fake virus was created out of thin air for the vaccine. Not the other way around.
They had the vaccine already on hand (2019) and then invented a reason to use it.
Thus the invented concocted reason for the vaccine becomes the non-existent fairy-tale Sars-Cov-2 virus.
No gain of function reasearch on the virus.
No laboratory man-made virus.
NO VIRUS AT ALL.
The only biological weapon and instrument of genocide is the VACCINE.
Remember that!
Excellent work. I believe it. I also knew it was a scam from the start, without knowing all these details. I too will not take the shot. Would you mind if I share this on my weekly radio show?
Jan, I can’t confirm with certainty that snake & spider venom was used, (the above comments I copied from a site on the website Odyssey where “someone” had written this comment). I did some research on specific venomous spiders, especially the “funnel web” which is one of the deadliest as the symptoms are similar to what people get if they are bitten ie paralysis, clots, spasms. The snake venom was difficult to pin down as there are also many deadly venomous snakes. There are also other nasties placed in this jab that would affect everyone like graphene oxide, polyethylene glycol (PEG) which is toxic in the body. Gene altering was another uncertainty, and has NEVER been used in any trials previously, so they didn’t know what ramifications, short or long term that would occur in people. I too believe they already had the vaccine available as I’ve read on several excellent websites that this was all planned in advance, way before 2019. After “The Event” in Sept. of 2019 which layed out plans for a fake virus circulating the globe and how events would pan out, I knew that all this was a con job right from the get-go.
The spike protein was another con job to make the virus look “deadly “ and can easily be designed on a computer if you know what to do and the same with all the computer graphic charts which were fabricated to make it look like the virus was surging across all countries. All probably paid for by the Elites and big pharma. Then it took off and with the help of all those that were involved including the media, it got bigger than Ben Hur.
Dr. David Martin - from wall street/patents expert/UN financial advisor (long list) believes its a chimera - 3 in one toxic blend that behaves like the what they insist in medical schools - viruses --- this one was made in the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, with help from some Chinese hands...to perhaps prove once and for all the theory that viruses actually exist as they describe them, and are great jumpers.
Bless your bravery - few dare go to 5G and the graphine...Dr. Cowan quotes research tht says some radiation frequencies renders oxygen molecules in our blood almost useless. Scary stuff...
Great analysis. I am in favor getting down to the nitty gritty of the "viral vs. non-viral debate" as this progresses. By all means!
But millions of lives are at stake now, and the preventative measures which could have saved 85% of these cases, as unnecessary deaths commenced, are powerful arguments. McCullough boldly identifies this as premeditated, and a deliberate act to a "railroad the population into mass vaccination" This is Mass Murder!
I think the point of the virus vs. non-virus debate is that there is no need for preventative measures or early treatments for anything. COVID is entirely an illusion. There are no lives at stake, and no potential saving of 85% from COVID deaths because COVID is completely undefined. Since PCR is a fraud, it is meaningless for McCullough, Zelenko and others to say "almost all my COVID patients have been cured by x, y, or z." "COVID patient" is a meaningless term. It is a muddled message McCullough sends out, and aside from the warnings against the vax, most of it is unproductive misinformation which perpetuates a myth. The only threat appears to be damage from 5G and the vax. Getting down to the nitty gritty as you say is the fastest way to make this clear.
Cela Since this disaster began, I think I have seen at least 20 people become serious ill. Some of them died even before the "jab" was out there. (including a good friend of mine) I know a couple who are both very ill, one refused the jab, and her husband took the bio-weapon jab. They live on a farm which is probably not near any 5G towers. Perhaps he shed on her? People are coming into the offices very sick, most of them test negative.
We will have a memorial service for a man who fought for about a month for his life in the hospital this Saturday. The gave him remdesivir against the families orders. Another man is now fighting for his life, needing a kidney and developing heart issues, while quarantined for "COVID." He is the father of a lady where my wife works. At that same place, the owner has been down for about 10 days with one hell of a chest cold. She tested positive, took monoclonal antibodies, later tested negative abut still very sick. We finally got her some Quercetin and she is doing better. (recommended by both Zelenko and McCullough) I have taken it myself and it cleared up a bad chest cold I had OVERNIGHT.
What I am trying to point out is that there is a "flu" or parasitic pneumonia(s) going around. "IT" is not one thing. But the public doesn't grasp that. "Flu season" has been around for years. The issue is NOT about virology. It is about proper treatment.
Why would Fauci and company care at all if for real science, when they have ignored it all this time with a "virus" that has a 99.7% survival rate? This like talking to Mengele,
I keep trying to explain to people why the virus vs. no-virus debate is a moot point. Why? It is extremely naive (no offense intended) to Ass ume that it would, when all of this science and mistreatment has progressed. The Public does NOT understand bad science. They only understand BAD people!
What we have to do is get people well.
Zelenko has treated over 6,000 patients and seen them recover. This is about people's lives. We need all the help we can get in exposing this world-wide drug cartel and tyranny. We are dealing with mass genocide and the loss of our entire freedoms. "Science is not even the issue" (sorry to say)
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I agree that treatment is a top priority for whatever is causing the mystery illnesses, some of which appear to respond well to antiparasitics.
I'm not suggesting that the virus vs. no-virus (VNV) debate be directed at the general public. I agree this is futile.
Rather, I think it should be a top (not secondary) priority for analysis among doctors & scientists parallel to the treatment efforts, because it will expedite the process of elimination which would get us to the root cause of the issue. If we delay this discussion, we will continue to pour water on fires without determining the source and fuel of the fire.
Several analysts have suggested that masks and the PCR swabs themselves introduce parasites and even synthetic nanoworms into the body. If we reach a milestone with the VNV debate among doctors, the irrelevance of masks & PCR tests would become apparent, and a potential origin of the fire would be stamped out.
In addition, there have been recent announcements proclaiming the success of 5G from space. Intelsat announced this last month. It is likely that testing of such has been conducted for a couple years in various parts of the world leading to a surge in illness, whether parasitic or not. As of September 2020, Musk alone had launched 700 satellites as part of his 5G StarLink network.
Reaching a milestone with doctors on VNV would help brush aside the idea of a contagious virus and focus more scrutiny on other causes, not least the unapproved 5G deployments and their horrendous health effects, and may more speedily stamp out another source of the fire which will soon rage exponentially.
My point is, an open and vigorous discussion about VNV among doctors and scientists--not Joe public--should occupy the same priority as treatment because it would expedite the identification of the root causes by eliminating red herrings.
I must insist that science is most certainly the issue.
Cela,
I gave you a "like" on one of your comments because I do agree, at least in principle, about your focus on the essence of this issue. But bear with me if I vent some frustrations about what I see here, after what we saw happen over 27 years ago when this same issue came up during the HIV debate.
Now granted that the "COVID" threat is 10,000 times bigger today than HIV/AIDS was back then, and is threatening our entire civilization worldwide, rather than a minority of IV drug addicts, gay men and those poor people in Africa. (all of which really didn't effect most of the "straight" white world of everyday folks). We are dealing with a world-wide lockdown now and forced injection of bioweapon this time around. Why?
Because we didn't hold Fauci and Gallo responsible for creating the terror tactics they used, while poisoning 300,000 (or more according to stats from John Lauritsen's research) with AZT in the US, and millions worldwide. Since then Gates and even bigger players now are BACK!
Now keep in mind that the Perth Group and Lanka were still in the embryonic stage at that time with the "isolation and no-virus" conceptions. We have come a long ways since then. But at best, even with the optimal amount of honest debate and sincere evaluations, we are at LEAST 10 years away from acceptance and redirection concerning these new discoveries.
But let me direct your attention to the real issue. We are dealing with the world's worst known criminals, and they control the purse strings and the mass media. They are also backed by hidden powers that want to destroy about 90% of the world's population. And as you pointed out, they have other means as well, like 5G, warfare, starvation and fear driven propaganda.
From my bitter experience, (which I will not go into) I have to tell you that as bright as our scientific minds are, we are actually childishly naive about believing we can present ANY scientific debate that will stop this vile and genocidal agenda with facts they will so quickly discard. They will make sure the public (who will only get confused) never gives our points any credence.
Here is the bottom line. The "powers that be" DON"T CARE. The don't want facts. They censor them. We are confronting a world wide cabal of drug dealers and mafioso, who will only be stopped by arrest and penalty. These are criminals--like McCullough said.
What these people have done is terrorize the world, crying FIRE, FIRE in a crowded theater and we are standing in the stairway as people start stampeding down. The best we can do is try to pull people out of the crowd, and ARREST the culprits ASAP. Terrorism is all about creating irrational fear, and you will never win any sensible debate about this in time. Where were you in 1993? when this entire debate started? You put too much faith in something that will never be fruitful.
I understand and share your frustration. I've been on to these people since shortly after 9/11. I think demons describes them better than criminals. I believe the momentum is on their side and believe their disinformation grid is next to invincible. As is their grip on most professional associations, medical or otherwise, and the minds of doctors and scientists, especially in the West. I believe all avenues of judicial and legislative push back is futile. They are the central banking cartel underpinning every modern institution.
I also believe the medical crisis is just the tip of the iceberg. The key domino which has been flicked and will result in a cascading societal & economic collapse, bringing about their desired controlled demolition and culling of the world, most likely accompanied by war and famine.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I am one of the people who are urging people to work on PLAN B. To cut off from the system and start rural communities with independent supply chains, energy, schooling, healthcare, etc. This is a life-altering move which most will never contemplate, let alone do. But it is my most realistic outlook. That being said, if we go down we should go down fighting and helping others.
I'll stress again that the VNV debate is not to be directed at the 'powers that be' or at the people. This is futile. I'm saying let's push the real science among breakaway factions of the scientific community to expand the pool of practicing doctors and scientists who are waking up or at the border. I am proposing a rogue movement, not a debate with the establishment. The target should also include intelligent, influential civilians and natural leaders of whom there are plenty.
I'd also suggest that we observe and leverage different parts of the world.
I am Ethiopian, and I can tell you that three heads of state (Tanzania, Burundi & Haiti) all refused lockdowns and vaccines. In the case of Tanzania & Burundi, the presidents kicked out the WHO. The Tanzanian president sent samples of fruit, goats and motor oil to the WHO lab for PCR testing and most came back positive. He exposed the scam to his entire nation and kicked the liars out. He urged his people to use tried & true natural means to maintain good health. In all three cases, the heads of state wound up dead within months of their publicized resistance. The world press called them science-deniers who died of COVID.
Ethiopia is barely 1 or 2 % vaccinated and we only have about 7,000 reports of COVID deaths out of 110 M people. Tanzania has reported only 50 deaths out of 60 M people. 0.00008 %. This could be an indication of people who woke up early and just bloody refuse to play along with masks, tests and vaccines, even though the powers "handled" their leaders. This attitude could be exported--and it is based on knowledge.
Africa as a whole is less than 6 % vaxxed and "COVID" is practically non-existent.
https://imgur.com/GBl4Qca
https://imgur.com/Q0n8KCV
More observers in the West are noticing this blatant paradox and are spreading the word. This may be tied to lack of 5G satellite coverage, or more natural foods.
On November 24, South Africa refused offers from Pfizer & Moderna to send the country more vaccines. That same day, the WHO announced the discovery of Omicron in SA / Botswana.
My point is, some governments are less captured than others. Some medical & scientific associations are less mind-controlled than others. More empirical and less beholden to medical & academic cartels. Some populations are more skeptical than others, and more wary of the presence of evil lurking in officialdom.
Africa, and likely India and South America are fertile ground for such knowledge to take hold, and it could become--pardon me--contagious.
I don't have the solutions, and I acknowledge the roadblocks you raise. But I think endless treatment of a problem without addressing the root will also never be fruitful. This is why I think the push back should consist of both treatment *and* spreading knowledge.
Like I said, I don't see much hope, but if there is to be pushback, it should happen on both fronts--treatment & knowledge.
Cela,
I have to commend you on a great response here.
As you know, we are like generals in a war room facing the same enemy, but with slightly differing strategies. Both are important and necessary in this battle to achieve victory. The questions are: How much fire power do we place on specific targets, without taking any casualties of "collateral damage" by killing our own troops and allies?
Wining some specific battles does not always equate to wining the war. But each battle won on a number of fronts, does contribute to the final victory. And this is vital, as we face both medical/scientific issues and this horrific criminal enterprise.
I think the graphic you posted of African statistics is VERY powerful and revealing. https://imgur.com/GBl4Qca
I also want to NAME the leaders you mentioned as VERY important people in this battle, though the army of phony "fact checkers" are doing damage control to try and annul any connections to all of them, even if they are not related to the COVID issue.
Five leaders: Jovenel Moise of Haiti, John Magufuli of Tanzania, Hamed Bakayoko of Ivory Coast, Ambrose Dlamini of eSwatini, and Pierre Nkurunziza of Burundi. (CIA Reuters link below)
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-haiti/fact-check-no-evidence-leaders-of-haiti-tanzania-and-zambia-died-due-to-vaccine-rejection-idUSL1N2OQ14Y
I think our best approach toward the medical "establishment" is civil and informative conversations with those who will actually engage in the scientific controversies, where we can suggest that they investigate things like the origin of SARS CoV-2.
I had a brief interaction online with a PCR test and viral physician, and I brought up the Drosten./Corman papers, which as you know, are now in serious reconsideration and recall. Especially now since even the "pirmers." which should provide absolute "viral identification" are currently being debunked along with the rest of this computer-generated "virus" fabrication. I got this lead from Celia Farber's outstanding investigative work awhile back and the story keeps growing!
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/12/03/ten-fatal-errors-scientists-attack-paper-that-established-global-pcr-driven-lockdown/
BTW
I never heard back form this PCR testing expert, and I have to presume he was deep into consideration, probably even more now.
I cite this as a victory on the scientific battlefield.
Liberty Council is a legal firm that recently lost a major US court decision on "religious exemptions." Like too many other law firms, they presented virtually NO scientific analysis in what was basically a 1st Amendment debate and decision. These attorneys NEED what we present by scientific analysis as part of the case!
But for a moment consider this:
The LAW is on our side, all the way from the Nuremberg codes, to international, national, state and local jurisdictions. What if local county sheriffs convened grand jury warrants for ARREST of all public officials as essentially drug dealers, operating a RICO-styled syndicated mafioso, forcing people to lose jobs, homes, health care and even their lives to this filthy operation?
What we need is law enforcement. And that is where we include the scientific proof as evidence.
It's important to remember that until very recently, these folks were 100% still in the matrix. I view the apostates as critical allies and cut them a little slack when they fail to talk about virus isolation, or follow the trail of vaccine lies going back to polio and smallpox. I've heard Dr. Malone occasionally make a comment about "protecting the elderly", or reminisce about the time Ebola was looming large, and he got the call to head some task force to fight it. OK, whatever. Robert Malone is doing an incredible amount of good. He and McCullough are all over the place, physically and virtually, fighting this, at great cost to themselves, There's a special place in heaven for them, even if they never stop to ask the question about virus isolation. Which they may yet still do - they are, like the rest of us, on a journey,
Dr. McCullough has gone a long way, and one needs to bear in mind that he has been steeped in systemic allopathic medicine for decades. Not only is his courage admirable, but also the flexibility of mind that he has managed to maintain. There are few people like him.
Dr McCullough is a big hero in my book. Instead of sending people home with early stage sickness, he took action. At great personal risk, he emphatically speaks out against the “vaccinations “. Let not the argument whether the virus is farcical or an engineered bioweapon deter us from fighting the truly demonic objective at play to depopulate and/or enslave mankind.
No'one goes from complete trust in doctors to "there is no virus". Not even in normal circumstances. Doing it while in fear and bombarded with propaganda - you may as well talk to them about the tooth fairy.
Let people make the move one step at a time. I like Cowan but think his idealist attitude is a personal choice - maybe he can't face going along with the untruth that there is a virus, which is fine and I respect - but it's not necessarily useful. Let's all do what we think is our own personal way of fighting the battle - based on our own knowledge and who we interact with - and let the truth come out how Life wants it too.
thanks for all your efforts Celia. Its so tricky. From my research and proximity to Drs. Cowan and Kaufman and Stefan Lanka in Germany (a little more difficult to understand his english but love his energy and his proofs) I do keep coming back to there are no virus's. If we go from there, then everything falls down. Dr Tom consistently says the humans get sick from toxicity, starvation and injury. When I apply this to my own life and that of my family, this seems to bear out. When we get sick, when our bodies are so toxic that there is cellular breakdown, fevers, mucous, coughing etc., we have these symptoms. They are fairly standard. So currently the levels of toxicity are increasing, as well as over vaccine use (since 1986) How many are now required for our children to attend public school (speaking of money)? Glyphosate in our water, air and food, still don't know what those trails are in the sky - everyday where I live in upstate NY and then the sky goes sort of beige. Theres certainly much we don't know. Dr. McCullough hits on some very important points and he's not sensational which I appreciate. So these various medicines and herbs and possibly supplements can help with the detoxing which is what getting "sick" really is. This summer many of us in a cluster were diagnosed with Lyme. I'm not so sure- our symptoms were very close to what people think this alleged virus is. Same symptoms. We took anti parasitic herbs and detoxifiers. So I'm back to poisoning. As well, living in the world right now is quite painful for everyone whether you are in the mass psychosis or standing outside of it whispering but but there's no virus. People are sick and dying from a corporate/medical military cartel, that pollutes with abandon, cares nothing for humanity, and according to McCullough, blocked doctors and their patients from getting help. Many people need to be held responsible for this. I will listen to the rest of it now.
McCullough is using the tools ordained by his high priesthood position in order to warn against the vaccine. His apparent disregard for terrain theory can be called a necessary evil. McCullogh is far too smart to ignore the GIANT red-Pill but refrains from engaging the beast in order to expedite an immediate cure to the weaponized injection that has nothing to do with a vaccine of virus cure. Acceptance of Terrain Theory is a major nightmare for the the poison needle cult.
I had a similar discussion with a co-admin of a Telegram channel--I am for making Cowan, Kaufman and Lanka the leading actors, while using McCullough, Robert Malone and the like (his go-to guys) very selectively as a supporting cast, especially when they warn against the jabs, and when they don't muddy that message with misinformation about Wuhan, viruses & variants, PCR tests and other facets of the delusion.
My wariness with posting from the support cast stems from where this narrative may be heading: a confrontation with or acute antagonism toward China in the event that, for example, they turn up the 5G to a deadly level where masses of people would die. This would no doubt be blamed on a lethal new variant of the gain-of-function, escaped Wuhan virus. I can see this dialectic building toward a WW3 scenario.
McCullough & Co's narrative opens a pandora's box which will be hard to close later. So my stance with my co-admin is that we nip the virus narrative in the bud and stick with the unadulterated truth of Cowan et al, even though this may reduce the initial audience. But persistently and consistently presenting this narrative will grow to a substantial segment of fervent converts invigorated by the whole truth, not a semi-scared lot imbued with half truths who will fall for the next deception around the corner. Cheers.
Science moves forward by the work of "deniers".
Dr. Stefan Lanka (viruses are not pathogenic) and Dr. Peter McCullough (accepts the general pathogenic theory and has successfully used prophylactic treatments for the ill) are not mutually exclusive, nor are the hypotheses of terrain vs germ. If we consider that viruses are essential symbiotics within a healthy immune system (innate and adaptive), serve as gatekeepers to the human genome (30% human DNA is said to be viral), and can even function as a type of cellular language directing immune response within the virome, their presence (and hence association) with disease/imbalance is understandable. They are flags that mark the spot and may well be director generals that coordinate foot soldiers and canons (killer lymphocytes) against an enemy. We have much to learn, and humility is the first rule of good science, as it is in good religion.
If we accept further the likelihood that viruses can and have been weaponized, and lab synthesized, to carry cytotoxic payloads (CRISPR-CAS9 hack-coded mRNA bits to convert a normal cell into an IPSc, "software for life" Moderna calls it) then we have a scenario where normal law abiding "civilians", or to keep to our analogy above, possibly even "4 star generals", are unwittingly now carrying "bombs" walking down the trafficked streets of the immune system.
Add to this the ringing anew of the eugenic bells and the detailed planning and modeling of Dark Winter, Clade X, et al., which are prepared to leverage each "explosion" -- that is, small spikes in real IFR, or even perceived "cases" based on high CT RT-PCR (which are as good as the real thing when it hits the media-massaged waves of mainstream media) then it becomes obvious that the water of science has been mingled with the spirits of political and financial power.
But you are absolutely right. The forked narrative has not been looked at honestly and so we must revisit the issue of isolation. Sampled bits of viral genome filled in with snippets of math modeling to give us a SARS-COV-2 profile is troubling. If this model then becomes "the" causal baseline for "the Great COVID" as disease, the dialing in of RT-PCR (really they just look for the e gene, common to all in the corona group), and the backbone to the identification and tracking of variants (that differ less than 1% from the math model, and do not escape naturally acquired corss-immunity) it all becomes an illogical line of reasoning that hurts the rational brain. Is the math model a cover-up of the real code, a hacked code, a sinister hand? Or, is it mere best-guess science?
Celia:
"I don’t see why one can’t learn from somebody who holds a different position. I was certainly baffled why McCullough thinks there is a virus, but I also am baffled by people who seem to conclude there is no syndrome sending people to the hospital."
I'm not baffled myself. Neither is Jon Rappoport, who wrote a blog post addressing those who say "But, but, but... people are dying."
See "Corona: Throughout history, people never died, they are dying now, therefore it must be the virus" / https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/05/21/corona-never-died-dying-now-must-be-the-virus/
Tom Cowan expresses frustration at the illogical position that many take that the existence of the Sars CoV 2 virus is unimportant. Andrew Kaufman echoes that sentiment. (The video link follows. It's along video.) It's illogical 'among other things'. If you are a professional in the health care field and don't know that Sars CoV 2 hasn't been isolated - proven to exist - then you should get into other work. I don't believe that people like Peter Mcullough don't know, which colors the situation 'sinister' in my view. If you lie to me, I have no interest in anything else you have to say.
Caring means knowing means caring.
"Debunking Virology With Dr. Thomas Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman And Dr. Stefano Scoglio" / https://www.bitchute.com/video/MBJfhojUP528/
"Sars CoV 2 - The Foundation Of The Hoax" / https://www.bitchute.com/video/2zt2eRe7Z8rj/
I happen to lean towards Drs. Cowan, Lanka, and Kaufman, but at this stage it is advisable not to be dogmatic. I am also perfectly willing to stick with the idea that the earth is round despite all the indications it need not be the case. The established paradigm is workable, and one has something to hold on to even if it need not be the way things are. The same goes for viruses.
Flat earth? Oh my. I love a good paradigm shifting but I really really cannot see what is going on there.
The choice need not be as binary as you seem to suggest.
As you wish.
Oh boy! I wrote my 1st posts in this thread in response to other posts without either a. hearing the interview or b. reading your post - which I just did!
i could not agree more! Along the way I have tried enlighten friends and family to the inconsistencies in the narrative and nonsense in the "Science" (Nonscience™️) and the very early things I found about Fauci at the beginning. All the while sending any treatment protocols I knew of if I discovered someone I knew to be ill.
It frustrated me that PM would not answer the burning question repeatedly but then he laid it bare. I think both he is protecting someone and also afraid for himself. I've only just gotten to that point in the interview.
It so saddened me to see a friend's social media post just today of her 10 year old's 1st injection. This is someone I went over the Cormen Drosten review with in person and I was not articulate or convincing enough to penetrate the fear (Nor do I really hold very much influence in their lives TBH).
Thank you to PM for coming right out and stating this is a coordinated effort to get everyone vaccinated.
Thank you for posting. Since the beginning of the "pandemic," I have relied on opinions of many doctors and scientists that I felt were being truthful, and Dr. McCullough was one of them. I think he seems like an honest and kind human being that only wants to help people.
Does anyone remember Dr. Zelenko in an interview stating something to the effect that he does believe that there is a covid virus? I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I seem to remember him saying that tests showed that his patients did not have influenza A or influenza B, so therefore there had to be another virus, which must be covid... or something like that.
I would suggest the relatively recent Mike Adams interview, below, of Zelenko, where the latter now indicates that he is aware of the U.S. coronavirus patent application trail and U.S. government funding trail which proves we are dealing with an artificial biological weapon which has been released in a bioterrorism, global war.
Watch the interview from time = 1:41 to 3:41
Mike Adams With Dr. Zev Zelenko - Covid Kill shots Are A Depopulation Weapon Against Humanity
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pWtSYIqpOsXj/
Thank you!
My father had the low oxygen and other covid symptoms years ago.
They couldn't find out what caused it... He got better after a few days in the hospital.
Recently, saw an interview with a South African doctor who said that this low oxygen condition with ground glass responded to allergy treatments.
I also read a study that showed a correlation between the flu shot and those who had bad covid in 2020. Hmm... Vaccines do cause allergies.... Hmm my father used to get the yearly useless garbage flu shot...
Hmm.. not to mention the other toxins like glysophate in our food.
Oh and most Americans are deficient in vitamin D, especially bad in winter low sun.
Viruses? Pfft
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Covid-19-Fraud-and-War-on-Humanity-Part-2:7
I just had Dr William Trebing, author of Goodbye Germ Theory, published 2004, over my house the other day and we did a live broadcast. it was my 1st, but i think it went well besides some audio trailing off a little bit here and there. But, yeah, im coming to that understanding myself, I don't know if the public can cope with the 'no virus' aspect YET. I hope, but it may take a bit. anyway, keep it up, i appreciate you!
if anyone's interested (PS im an amatuer) https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=61b8133d173ca41bd079a29a
The remarks are understood and accepted. I agree with the basic thrust of them. However, people like Cowan and Kaufman are being insulted and demeaned by the people like McCullough (not meaning him explicitly as I don't know if his is a culprit) and Cowan said recently, having insulted/demeaned nobody from that camp, that he is about to affirmatively respond. So people like McCullough are in the old divide and conquer posture. Invoking Cowan's charging money for a (small) portion of his content or Rudolph Steiner is, however, rather ad hominem. After all, this site has a subscription page and Steiner says many intelligent things (and Cowan is not a disciple of Steiner or anthroposophy, even if he likes some of the ideas). As to ivermectin and the like, there are no new viral diseases, just what we've always had--various toxins, parasites and other poisons. Sofia Smallstorm recently cited a scientific friend of hers who said that if you took literally everything off the face of the earth, you would be left with an outline of everything in the form of nematodes, a parasite that is everywhere. Not saying this is the explanation for the apparent effectiveness of ivermectin, but perhaps...
I am not aware of these battles and can't take them into consideration when navigating news/analysis. I've wasted enough time trying to figure out who insulted whom, in which camp. Being insulted can be a sign of self importance, but not always. Anyway we don't have time for anything except lifeboats.
I guess we ALL agree that parasites are the big story?
Hi Celia...maybe of interest though in Spanish
..they have mentioned 'parasites' with visuals gor a while now...
https://www.orwell.city/?m=1
Generally agree, Celia. Why would anti-parasitic drugs be so effective here? And, as we all know, parasites have been found in some of the vaccine vials. Of course, there is also 5G, which Cowan and La Quinta Columna (among others) think is important (confirmed by a new PubMed study indicating that 5G implicates covid conditions), and the graphene oxide/hydroxide as part of the link up to the new control grid as well as being toxic in its own rite.
Here's an article that claims HCQ is an effective treatment for EMF (radio sickness):
https://hive.blog/news/@francesleader/ann-devlin-exposing-the-link-between-electromagnetic-radiation-and-our-health
It would provide some balance to mention that McCullough has been viciously attacked on many fronts. The camp rejected him, too.
Exactly. Why are anti-parasite drugs effective. I have always wondered why an anti-malarial e.g. HCQ - was effective? There is something there. Are people who experience the symptoms experiencing a parasite infestation?
How about the hydras that Dr Majeb saw moving around under microscopic inspections of jab solutions?
Lots and lots of questions requiring answers.
Yes. That was interesting Andrew Kaufman looks at that in his recent "Covid 19 Myths part 4" if I recall. (I saw it somewhere and I think that that's where I saw it.) Carrie Madej also saw something similar. I have a crappy short term memory, but researchers have been interested in those particular entities for a long time. I'm trying to remember the name for them, but they have interesting characteristics. You can, apparently, chop them up in a blender and if you leave the mess in one spot, the parts of the hydra alone, they will reattach. They've labelled them 'immortals' or something.
"Covid 19 Myths part 4" / https://odysee.com/@LawfulRebel:9/covidmyths4:e
It isn't clear to me whether it's something that people like Andrew and Carrie are sure is there or not. I know that Andrew mentioned a "The Exposé" article that looks at findings that certain vials of covid 19 injections are responsible for all the deaths. As Andrew notes, If that's true, then they are deliberately killing some (for whatever reason). That also shows, if true, that they are putting different things in different lots and vials.
A theory.....
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/variation-in-the-toxicity-of-different-covid-vaccine-batches_dL2OVVSgmx9qXII.html
I am terrible with graphs, especially when I can't even see them clearly. The presenter seems to want us to believe that vaccines aren't normally harmful. We are already a universe apart right there.
You probably meant Dr. Madej. Try looking up Dr. Franc Zalewski talking about "aluminium-based lifeforms" in the covid vax. No link, but I could upload his video if need be.
The claim for both HCQ and Ivermectin is they have antiviral properties, esp. when combined with zinc. There is also a study suggesting HCQ may work in cancer treatment, so it is a complex area. You might enjoy looking into weaponized mycoplasma (Donald Scott, 2016, and other sources).
Actually, that was what Andrew Kaufman suggests. Doctors are not trained to look for parasites. Therefore, when patients are given anti-parasite drugs (still toxic) for other things and improve, what is missed is that those patients had parasites that they just got rid of. (I have issues with that explanation, but I put it out there for your consideration.)
"The Ivermectin Segment Of Covid 19 Myths part 3" / https://www.bitchute.com/video/lS5aTNHhNgLA/
To my layman's mind that begs two questions:
If it is parasites - what kind are they/it and what caused them/it to to either manifest or, if already in the body, cause them/it to proliferate?
It was suggested by Clif High that perhaps what was aerosolized was not the virus, but the spike protein itself. Or maybe something else was released like an aerosolized malaria-type parasite that mimicked symptoms so they could push the vaccine narrative and inject the toxic protein; the real illness-causer? So many possibilities - so few answers.
One thing that is for sure, though. Right now, as a result of this lie we've endured the last two years with more to come plus clean-up, a lot of good medical minds, both in the lab's and on the front lines treating patients, are beginning to give this whole public health issue and viruses and germ theory and terrain et al - a real good think. Thinking outside of the box is the new thinking inside this box. Now - that's science, Fauci. Out with the old - in with the new. Time to clean out your desk. Anthony. I can hear your mother yelling at you!
I seriously doubt that they could spray proteins. The biggest challenge for the nasties playing with this stuff is preserving their synthetic material (proteins for example) so that they can survive the trip from creation to a victim's insides. Stuff like RNA and proteins disintegrate almost immediately outside their natural environments. They use lipids (which I think polyethylene glycol PEG is) to encapsulate the material that they want to inject, otherwise they couldn't even use the material. But I don't think that they'd be able to aerosolize anything, lipids or not. That's not my expert opinion. That's what I gather from listening to many videos.
Thank you for your response.
For me it comes down to - there are a lot more questions than answers. "They" are trying to tell us that they have the answer(s). I call BS. It's becoming obvious a lot more questions needs be asked (Their answers don't even make sense half the time).. Even if the questions are crazy or naive. It opens up the mind for better minds to think it through and come up with better answers that lead to better questions. As old as Socrates.!
Acknowledged.
McCullough is using the tools ordained by his high priesthood position in order to warn against the vaccine. His apparent disregard for terrain theory can be called a necessary evil. McCullogh is far too smart to ignore the GIANT red-Pill but refrains from engaging the beast in order to expedite an immediate cure to the weaponized injection that has nothing to do with a vaccine of virus cure. Acceptance of Terrain Theory is a major nightmare for the the poison needle cult.