A long time ago, I was friends with a woman in the Navy. She had been in the "watch" the day the flight went down - the 24 hour watch room that coordinates all crisis information for naval intelligence. She made it very clear to me: a man had come running into the watch a few minutes after the plane went down and he said, "we shot it down! we shot it down" or thereabouts. My friend explained she believed that a submarine off the coast of long island had accidentally shot it with a missile but the story was to be silenced by the government and the mainstream press ever since. Glad to see your friend got the story out.
I was in the Navy, but not in The Boats. I wish I could speculate on how a missile could be fired from a sub at a civilian airliner, but we would need at least 10 wealthy brothers from Haiti contributing to that investigation. I am so sorry to hear of the passing of your hero, friend and fellow journalist. Thank you so much Celia for sharing your memoriam to Kristina, and for everything you publish. Now, about that Big Three interview you and Kristina had considered?! Btw, where is Mr. Binney? He was front and center for a quite a while. Maybe that Big 3 interview would yet be possible - Rfk jr. has promised the release of Assange as his very first order if elected. There I go again breaking my decades long rule about not putting any trust in any politicians. Free Assange!
God Bless you Celia in the coming New Year, for good health and continued good strength in doing the work you do.
Thank you GenEarly for the link to that amazing interview. Mind Blown.
I've watched countless interviews with CAF - this one is by far the best yet; in 50 mins. she bundles all the corruption into one incredible Pandoras Box of evil.
Immense credit to Kristina B. for her ability and breadth of knowledge to keep the interview steaming along at full throttle.
I read a story about a retired USAF fighter pilot, with plenty of experience identifying incoming ordinance in the air, who lived on the water nearby and was out on a little rowboat on a perfectly clear calm evening. He watched the missile coming up from the southeast, and at the last moment arc up and hit the belly of the plane. The story I remember was the plane held 4 researchers who had the goods on Clinton selling military secrets to the Chinese, and they were on their way to see some retired flag officers who lived in France. Their self-imposed exile was because they felt threatened by their own government. But I think somewhere in that story they implicated a surface ship. Which would certainly carry anti-aircraft missiles aboard.
I never heard about the four passengers (although I did hear Ron Brown was planning to turn gov witness against Bill Clinton and Chinese deals before his plane crashed). I heard the military was testing a new missile system off Long Island and the missile hit TWA 800 instead of the dummy target. That would be consistent with the eye witnesses who saw two objects besides TWA 800. Later, the military denied having had any exercises whatsoever in the area. The FBI also destroyed records of interviews of witnesses and fabricated others.
Yes. I heard this as well. Alm the eye witnesses didn't lie. That jet was shot out of the sky.
If you live in endless war mode, death is the result.
Consider Bio-weapons.
Development & testing. What a God-awful idea. Yet Fouci & Friends have spent Billions pursuing death & disability.
How Lied To Are We?
Can Government "By For and Of the People" Survive, without a Free Press or an Honest Judiciary?
I think we are at the cross roads, folks. Fix what has gone horribly wrong across all branches of Government, Media, Academia & Medicine, or kiss all our asses, and all future generations' asses, goodbye.
I clearly remember that night. I was listening to the news on the radio when the announcer came on with breaking news.: TWA flight 800 had been accidentally shot down by the U.S. Navy who were testing a new radar system. I never heard that again but I never forgot it.
I didn't know then the person behind the reporting of eyewitness testimony of a missile shooting down TWA 800. I do now. I knew then that the government would seek to change minds and wipe away evidence of the event. You can't darken the eyes of so many witnesses. I knew.
Thank you for a beautiful tribute to an amazing woman and reporter. I was also touched by your oh-so-honest vulnerability of your own failings in your relationship with her. I'm sure she treasured your friendship and support nonetheless.
She was a teller of truth, and it meant so much to stand by it, regardless of cost. . That has more value in the eternities than moneyed silence. You're in good company, Celia. You sure knew how to pick 'em. Keep up the good fight!
I remember the flight being downed. I do not remember when I heard about the Submarine shooting a missile at it but it was within a very short time after the event. Thank you for the Article. I prayed for her family as you asked. The Truth will outlast every one and every thing and in the end it will be known by all whether to their eternal gratitude or to their eternal horror.
Darn right Kristina Borjesson worked hard on investigating the lies and crimes of 9/11. After I met Kristina at a 9/11 event organized in the San Francisco area by the also legendary truther, Carol Brouillet, I went to work on a long essay connecting many dots. See the link below.
What a kind and attentive whistle blowing woman she was. It is such a great loss not to have her with us. Kristina leaves a great legacy in her family, in her circle of friends and colleagues, and in the field of investigative journalism.
FIB was once again a prominent player of disinformation and coverup....... just Another "Waco" of the Feral Deep Statists under a multitude of Bureacrazies. Welcome to the USSA, comrades, that Eisenhower warned about in 1960, and JFK's Assassination Confirmed in '63, sElection Coups in 2020 & 22.
I concur; but there may be No Beginnining, only a Continuing, like rivers meander to the sea, seeking the least resistance, but all the while creating new channels.
I know many long for MAGA and I do as well, but in the long term, I furled my flag in 1865 when the Feral Empire triumphed by force over those that just wished to withdraw from the Union.
The Ferals have never ever ceased since then in their/them conquests; Until Now it comes back Home, ......... Again.
Being 1 January, my family will sit down to a meal this evening of pork chops, collard greens, cornbread, and black-eyed peas. Almost no one really knows why that is a traditional New Year's meal in the South. Most folks just say it has something to do with luck. The real story is that Sherman's army burned out Southern civilian women and children in the Winter on their march through Georgia. They drove off or killed all the farm animals, except for the pigs, which were usually taken into the nearest beaver swamp by the family (pork chops). They destroyed food stores that were put up to make it through the Winter, but they missed the Collards and Black-eyed peas, because they did not recognize them as being food. Our final traditional food is cornbread, which was made from the handfuls of corn kernels that the "soldiers" dropped behind them.
We eat this traditional meal because we remember that it was what our ancestors ate to keep from starving to death after being the victims of an actual War Crime! Therefore, forgive me if my flag is not furled, but is instead kept clean and ready. Thomas Jackson's desire for the Black Flag will not be stopped by a concerned nephew this time.
I am just shy of 76 and lived in Texas my entire life. Always had black-eyed peas on NY day, but never heard the story of the origin of the tradition! Thank you very much!
My minuscule attempts to tell the truth and the Swede in me weeps with you... Kristina sounds amazing. There is always a small angry ball of energy that burns within me when I hear of such people suffering so much. She fought the good fight... as are you Celia. Much Love... e
I may be the only one alive who may remember this but the pieces and parts were sent to a forensic aviation engineer in Hawthrone and a local station, such as KTLA, ran a story (only once) when this chap was ready to announce his findings, which he never did. He showed on camera where he believed a missile had hit the wing near an engine. The story vanished after that, the engineer may have vanished as well.
Yes I l believe that JFK jr plane was shot down. They would not allow anyone to see it. It was not cloudy that night, JFK jr knew what he was doing. The propaganda that came out on that was unbelievable.
I knew a man that worked as a maintenance tech on that plane. He was involved in the accumulation and accounting of the recovered parts. He stated that there was OBVIOUS damage from outside the plane going into the plane (think metal bent inwards from an exterior explosion). When the fuel tank wire story was put out, they thought it was some sort of joke.
Was it the Sanderses? Wife had been an airline attendant? He worked with James Cashill writing up an account of the missile residue on the backs of the passenger seats retrieved from the crash debris? He did prison time for interfering with federal government property or some $)(- like that because the FBI seized the entire investigation from the NTSB immediately and declared everything off limits to anyone who wanted a real investigation. Immediately after the crash, something like 200 people said they had seen something come up from the horizon, arc over the jet, change its trajectory to head toward the jet, and then saw the explosion. They all disappeared from later accounts.
I remember reading her account of the TWA 800 incident in her collection called Into The Buzzsaw, which should be required reading for all journalism students.
I agree Vonu - required reading for all journalism students, "teachers" & "practicing" journos >
> Books - Editor, Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press. ISBN 1-57392-972-7 (Prometheus Books, hardcover, 2002); ISBN 1-59102-230-4 (Prometheus Books, revised and expanded paperback, 2004).
- Author, FEET TO THE FIRE: The Media After 9/11, Top Journalists Speak Out, ISBN 1-59102-343-2 (Prometheus Books, hardcover, 2005).[2][3]
- Author, The Reptile Club Librarian. ASIN B00F2MRSE2 (Amazon Kindle, 2013)
I will honor her story with my life's work. That work has gotten me ostracized by very close people to me. I didn't agree with the given narrative and my life was changed from that day forth. No matter how much we suffer in life the truth is a virtue I will always suffer for.
It's called "VALOR" and I respect and honor all dissenting brave people who speak up against evil.
Celia Farber... You are one of these types of people and you have deserve my respect because your truth is valiant.
Thanks for that great tribute. My family lived in Rye, in Westchester county at the time. The chatter about Flt 800 was fierce at the time. Most never made the news...but plenty did and it worked to create immense doubt about what really happened. A massive coverup
Celia thank you - for this profound tribute to your dear friend and courageous independent journalist Kristina Borjesson. You have given me an opportunity to get to know Kristina's work a little better, and to appreciate you- and your journey as well. I have an aviation background, my father is ex Air Force and spent majority of his civilian career as a pilot for TWA. Kristina's was helped to bring to light what everyone in the aviation community was uncomfortable confronting - compelling evidence that our government was willfully engaged in blatant deception and willful coverup of a catastrophic air disaster. Cognitive dissonance is a thing.
It's so true. The journalists who try to tell the truth are toast. The ones who continue to lie and conceal the truth keep their jobs and keep moving up the ladder.
A long time ago, I was friends with a woman in the Navy. She had been in the "watch" the day the flight went down - the 24 hour watch room that coordinates all crisis information for naval intelligence. She made it very clear to me: a man had come running into the watch a few minutes after the plane went down and he said, "we shot it down! we shot it down" or thereabouts. My friend explained she believed that a submarine off the coast of long island had accidentally shot it with a missile but the story was to be silenced by the government and the mainstream press ever since. Glad to see your friend got the story out.
Thank you Mike. Wow, I wish I could call Kristina and tell her that story.
I was in the Navy, but not in The Boats. I wish I could speculate on how a missile could be fired from a sub at a civilian airliner, but we would need at least 10 wealthy brothers from Haiti contributing to that investigation. I am so sorry to hear of the passing of your hero, friend and fellow journalist. Thank you so much Celia for sharing your memoriam to Kristina, and for everything you publish. Now, about that Big Three interview you and Kristina had considered?! Btw, where is Mr. Binney? He was front and center for a quite a while. Maybe that Big 3 interview would yet be possible - Rfk jr. has promised the release of Assange as his very first order if elected. There I go again breaking my decades long rule about not putting any trust in any politicians. Free Assange!
God Bless you Celia in the coming New Year, for good health and continued good strength in doing the work you do.
https://rumble.com/vzxi4p-catherine-austin-fitts-the-whistleblower-newsroom.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
So many links exposing their NWO webs of Our destruction.
2024 is bringing It All to a head. All the best.
I think I also posted this link, in the post. But it can't be posted too many times.
Thank you GenEarly for the link to that amazing interview. Mind Blown.
I've watched countless interviews with CAF - this one is by far the best yet; in 50 mins. she bundles all the corruption into one incredible Pandoras Box of evil.
Immense credit to Kristina B. for her ability and breadth of knowledge to keep the interview steaming along at full throttle.
Catherine Austin Fitts and Kristina link is beyond frightening ~ but I do thank you for sharing.
Here is info on Binney, he is still around. Perhaps someone able to put that interview together could reach out to him?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(intelligence_official)
What is your take on this one?
Inside the US Navy's mistaken shooting of Iran Air Flight 655 in 1988, which killed 290 people
The Captain of Iran Air Flight 655 was living in USA.
https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-air-flight-655-us-navy-shot-down-1988-photos-2020-1
How awful. Tragic mass murder.
Never put your faith in what any politician says. Never
I figure her spirit enjoyed the vindication. :)
Definitely!!
I read a story about a retired USAF fighter pilot, with plenty of experience identifying incoming ordinance in the air, who lived on the water nearby and was out on a little rowboat on a perfectly clear calm evening. He watched the missile coming up from the southeast, and at the last moment arc up and hit the belly of the plane. The story I remember was the plane held 4 researchers who had the goods on Clinton selling military secrets to the Chinese, and they were on their way to see some retired flag officers who lived in France. Their self-imposed exile was because they felt threatened by their own government. But I think somewhere in that story they implicated a surface ship. Which would certainly carry anti-aircraft missiles aboard.
I never heard about the four passengers (although I did hear Ron Brown was planning to turn gov witness against Bill Clinton and Chinese deals before his plane crashed). I heard the military was testing a new missile system off Long Island and the missile hit TWA 800 instead of the dummy target. That would be consistent with the eye witnesses who saw two objects besides TWA 800. Later, the military denied having had any exercises whatsoever in the area. The FBI also destroyed records of interviews of witnesses and fabricated others.
Yes. I heard this as well. Alm the eye witnesses didn't lie. That jet was shot out of the sky.
If you live in endless war mode, death is the result.
Consider Bio-weapons.
Development & testing. What a God-awful idea. Yet Fouci & Friends have spent Billions pursuing death & disability.
How Lied To Are We?
Can Government "By For and Of the People" Survive, without a Free Press or an Honest Judiciary?
I think we are at the cross roads, folks. Fix what has gone horribly wrong across all branches of Government, Media, Academia & Medicine, or kiss all our asses, and all future generations' asses, goodbye.
I clearly remember that night. I was listening to the news on the radio when the announcer came on with breaking news.: TWA flight 800 had been accidentally shot down by the U.S. Navy who were testing a new radar system. I never heard that again but I never forgot it.
What a loss Kristina's passing is. God bless her.
wow.
Thank you.
I didn't know then the person behind the reporting of eyewitness testimony of a missile shooting down TWA 800. I do now. I knew then that the government would seek to change minds and wipe away evidence of the event. You can't darken the eyes of so many witnesses. I knew.
Thank you for a beautiful tribute to an amazing woman and reporter. I was also touched by your oh-so-honest vulnerability of your own failings in your relationship with her. I'm sure she treasured your friendship and support nonetheless.
She was a teller of truth, and it meant so much to stand by it, regardless of cost. . That has more value in the eternities than moneyed silence. You're in good company, Celia. You sure knew how to pick 'em. Keep up the good fight!
Truth is eternal. Truth is light.
I remember the flight being downed. I do not remember when I heard about the Submarine shooting a missile at it but it was within a very short time after the event. Thank you for the Article. I prayed for her family as you asked. The Truth will outlast every one and every thing and in the end it will be known by all whether to their eternal gratitude or to their eternal horror.
Aching for your loss, the world’s loss. Your very powerful writing is a great tribute to a great human. Thank you
Darn right Kristina Borjesson worked hard on investigating the lies and crimes of 9/11. After I met Kristina at a 9/11 event organized in the San Francisco area by the also legendary truther, Carol Brouillet, I went to work on a long essay connecting many dots. See the link below.
What a kind and attentive whistle blowing woman she was. It is such a great loss not to have her with us. Kristina leaves a great legacy in her family, in her circle of friends and colleagues, and in the field of investigative journalism.
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2013/07/27/twa-flight-800-and-911/
Thanks for this link Anthony.
You are welcome. I just put this up
https://anthonyjhall.substack.com/p/an-exemplary-embodiment-of-investigative
Amazing article!
I remember sitting across from Marcel Dadi in his Paris music store.
I had taken him some tunes I had arranged for classical guitar.
They were not ready for prime time. He looked at them and made a couple suggestions.
He told me the introduction in French was totally incomprehensible.
I now know he was being way too kind.
Dadi was known in the States as the French Chet Atkins but he was very unique, a great guitar player.
He died on that flight home to Paris. I think about that day in his shop every time I hear TWA 800.
Thanks to Kristina for bringing light to this tragedy
I'm very sorry. It's such a horrendous trauma. I still feel for them all, every time I let myself think of it, and their loved ones—it's beyond.
FIB was once again a prominent player of disinformation and coverup....... just Another "Waco" of the Feral Deep Statists under a multitude of Bureacrazies. Welcome to the USSA, comrades, that Eisenhower warned about in 1960, and JFK's Assassination Confirmed in '63, sElection Coups in 2020 & 22.
I Spit.
That is why we should have flown the black flag from the beginning General.
I concur; but there may be No Beginnining, only a Continuing, like rivers meander to the sea, seeking the least resistance, but all the while creating new channels.
I know many long for MAGA and I do as well, but in the long term, I furled my flag in 1865 when the Feral Empire triumphed by force over those that just wished to withdraw from the Union.
The Ferals have never ever ceased since then in their/them conquests; Until Now it comes back Home, ......... Again.
All the best.
Being 1 January, my family will sit down to a meal this evening of pork chops, collard greens, cornbread, and black-eyed peas. Almost no one really knows why that is a traditional New Year's meal in the South. Most folks just say it has something to do with luck. The real story is that Sherman's army burned out Southern civilian women and children in the Winter on their march through Georgia. They drove off or killed all the farm animals, except for the pigs, which were usually taken into the nearest beaver swamp by the family (pork chops). They destroyed food stores that were put up to make it through the Winter, but they missed the Collards and Black-eyed peas, because they did not recognize them as being food. Our final traditional food is cornbread, which was made from the handfuls of corn kernels that the "soldiers" dropped behind them.
We eat this traditional meal because we remember that it was what our ancestors ate to keep from starving to death after being the victims of an actual War Crime! Therefore, forgive me if my flag is not furled, but is instead kept clean and ready. Thomas Jackson's desire for the Black Flag will not be stopped by a concerned nephew this time.
Happy New Year.
I am just shy of 76 and lived in Texas my entire life. Always had black-eyed peas on NY day, but never heard the story of the origin of the tradition! Thank you very much!
My minuscule attempts to tell the truth and the Swede in me weeps with you... Kristina sounds amazing. There is always a small angry ball of energy that burns within me when I hear of such people suffering so much. She fought the good fight... as are you Celia. Much Love... e
I may be the only one alive who may remember this but the pieces and parts were sent to a forensic aviation engineer in Hawthrone and a local station, such as KTLA, ran a story (only once) when this chap was ready to announce his findings, which he never did. He showed on camera where he believed a missile had hit the wing near an engine. The story vanished after that, the engineer may have vanished as well.
Yeah, sounds about right. They just abracadabra-ed it away. Literally media magic. Now you see it now you don't.
Like the JFK Jr. plane.
Yes I l believe that JFK jr plane was shot down. They would not allow anyone to see it. It was not cloudy that night, JFK jr knew what he was doing. The propaganda that came out on that was unbelievable.
I knew a man that worked as a maintenance tech on that plane. He was involved in the accumulation and accounting of the recovered parts. He stated that there was OBVIOUS damage from outside the plane going into the plane (think metal bent inwards from an exterior explosion). When the fuel tank wire story was put out, they thought it was some sort of joke.
amazing.
Was it the Sanderses? Wife had been an airline attendant? He worked with James Cashill writing up an account of the missile residue on the backs of the passenger seats retrieved from the crash debris? He did prison time for interfering with federal government property or some $)(- like that because the FBI seized the entire investigation from the NTSB immediately and declared everything off limits to anyone who wanted a real investigation. Immediately after the crash, something like 200 people said they had seen something come up from the horizon, arc over the jet, change its trajectory to head toward the jet, and then saw the explosion. They all disappeared from later accounts.
Correction: Jack Cashill
You are not the only one.
I remember reading her account of the TWA 800 incident in her collection called Into The Buzzsaw, which should be required reading for all journalism students.
I agree Vonu - required reading for all journalism students, "teachers" & "practicing" journos >
> Books - Editor, Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press. ISBN 1-57392-972-7 (Prometheus Books, hardcover, 2002); ISBN 1-59102-230-4 (Prometheus Books, revised and expanded paperback, 2004).
- Author, FEET TO THE FIRE: The Media After 9/11, Top Journalists Speak Out, ISBN 1-59102-343-2 (Prometheus Books, hardcover, 2005).[2][3]
- Author, The Reptile Club Librarian. ASIN B00F2MRSE2 (Amazon Kindle, 2013)
More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristina_Borjesson & https://kristinaborjesson.substack.com
Needs to be archived too, asap > Kristina's Substack | Kristina Borjesson | Substack
https://kristinaborjesson.substack.com/
Kristina's Substack WORLD ON EDGE: HOW DID WE GET HERE? Kristina Borjesson Watch now (46 mins) | Why They Keep happening And What Needs To Be Examined and Done © 2023 Kristina Borjesson
I will honor her story with my life's work. That work has gotten me ostracized by very close people to me. I didn't agree with the given narrative and my life was changed from that day forth. No matter how much we suffer in life the truth is a virtue I will always suffer for.
It's called "VALOR" and I respect and honor all dissenting brave people who speak up against evil.
Celia Farber... You are one of these types of people and you have deserve my respect because your truth is valiant.
Sincerely
~James A. Sering~
Thank you Sir.
Thanks for that great tribute. My family lived in Rye, in Westchester county at the time. The chatter about Flt 800 was fierce at the time. Most never made the news...but plenty did and it worked to create immense doubt about what really happened. A massive coverup
Massive. A turning point in media coverups.
Celia thank you - for this profound tribute to your dear friend and courageous independent journalist Kristina Borjesson. You have given me an opportunity to get to know Kristina's work a little better, and to appreciate you- and your journey as well. I have an aviation background, my father is ex Air Force and spent majority of his civilian career as a pilot for TWA. Kristina's was helped to bring to light what everyone in the aviation community was uncomfortable confronting - compelling evidence that our government was willfully engaged in blatant deception and willful coverup of a catastrophic air disaster. Cognitive dissonance is a thing.
Who was the target on the TWA 800 jet that went down?
Marvelous writing - thanks Celia. RIP Christina.❤️
It's so true. The journalists who try to tell the truth are toast. The ones who continue to lie and conceal the truth keep their jobs and keep moving up the ladder.
Failing upwards!