I think it would be important to look into the idea that it has been the western bankers who have had control of China since the opium wars, that they've been installing leaders there like they install leaders here. Look at where Mao went to school. I think that says it. We have more in common with the chinese people than most of us think. We are slaves of the same shitheads who need to die as soon as we can kill them. I don't think they are human, so I"m not talking about murder, I'm talking about butchering the hogs who oppress us. Nobody will miss them, love was never part of their game. Even the chinese leader is a victim of these unseen parasites. We don't need to kill him, he just needs to get out of the way.
I guess it's likely that the resistance will be crushed as before. They likely have found a special police force of foreign nationals in kevlar suits there like they did in canada, france, probably lots more places. We will need to think along the lines of how do we make a kevlar suit a disadvantage? It seems to me that if some chinese protesters capture some kevlar guys and find that they don't even speak the same language, that they are illegal immigrants, hessians, that may wake up even more chinese who are on the fence.
You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. I hope that there are some intelligent egg breaking chinese folks on the case. It's a risky business, their gov't apparently has machines to remove all traces of what used to be a human body in a matter of seconds. Even if that is exaggerated and it's a matter of minutes, it could be discouraging.
i read a few weeks ago, that a contingent of chinese soldiers arrived in the US but have found no further info. Might very well be, that foreign troups are handling chinese protests. The force behind all this is global, like schwab says. It is already there behind the screens and harrassing people all over the planet.
if we could gain control of our own countries in europe and usa, the thing to do would be to invade switzerland without so much as a phone call or a declaration of war. Go in there and get evreything back that should still be ours including great grandpa's gold teeth.
Switzerland is the shithole which would look better to me with the first 200 metres deep of the surface melted.
Of course you'd need the fictional nuclear arms that everybody's so afraid of to do that.
They don't exist. Just another scam.
Doesn't rule out going there and kicking their arses one at a time.
I once went to a forum where they were inculcating these lies in new doofuses with their pseudo-scientifique airs. When I started picking apart their explanation of how the bomb continues making lots of energy after the case is broken as opposed to having all of the particles instantly be far apart from each other and therefore no longer fissioning at all they banned me. No sense of humor at all.
I’m thinking it would take action from subversives within the government , an internal coup that, timed with popular dissent , topples the regime. This is , of course the formula for regime change used by our state department for decades. In this case , a home grown version would be a cataclysmic event to globalists and could initiate a , dare I say “ domino effect” . Much yelling and waving of the arms...drastic actions that pull the blinders off many? “ old Charlie stole the handle, the train ,it won’t stop going. No way to slow down”
it will be important to make sure that the executions are visible to the public and that we apologize to them for letting them get to the point where now we have to stop them from having the rest of their lives.
More recently, 3/6/22 I believe, grandtheftworld mentioned the possibility that russians being banned from e.g. apple pay and other western credit systems pushed them into various chinese payment systems... Where they are overtly monitored and can be cut off by the credit score warriors.
But it undermines the notion that china is on the "side" of russia. If indeed russia is a holdout from the "western" hegemony many associate with central bankers and the WEF, china may not go along. It needs the resources, but with its population and russia distracted at all on its western front, China can take them. If this is a correct reading, then Putin by invading Ukraine / liberating Donetsk fell into the same trap Hitler did when he invaded Poland / liberated Danzig and east prussia.
Do we have any idea what kind of resources Putin is dedicating to this? It seems that unless we go there ourselves, we're believing the press. That never seems like a good plan. So much we don't know. Are the "vaccines" in China killing people as they are so clearly doing here? Not sure, are we? Maybe the chinese are getting nothing but vitamin c in their vaccines and are going to occupy Russia, but maybe there'll be only 100 million or less chinese in 2025.
I think about this a lot. It wouldn't be enough or fix the problem for good, but imagine the impact of simply removing just 10-20 of these fascists. Removing. Far be it from me to say "by any means possible." But with certain key figures gone, we could make a lot of headway through this nightmare.
THIS IS A SECTION OF THAT FT ARTICLE (from March 18, 2020):
Hanwang, the facial-recognition company that has placed 2m of its cameras at entrance gates across the world, started preparing for the coronavirus in early January.
Huang Lei, the company’s chief technical officer, said that even before the new virus was widely known about, he had begun to get requests from hospitals at the centre of the outbreak in Hubei province to update its software to recognise nurses wearing masks.
“We wouldn’t wait until something explodes to act. If three or five clients ask for the same thing . . . we’ll see that as important,” said Mr Huang, adding that its cameras previously only recognised people in masks half the time, compared with 99.5 per cent accuracy for a full face image.
Since then, demand has soared, from police stations, railway stations and all the office towers that use Hanwang’s cameras to screen employees, and Mr Huang reassigned teams of people to work on the challenge.
The company now says its masked facial recognition program has reached 95 per cent accuracy in lab tests, and even claims that it is more accurate in real life, where its cameras take multiple photos of a person if the first attempt to identify them fails.
Yup. Reflectacles supposedly block the uv cameras tracking your eyes. I have real trouble seeing through the damn things though. I also got some adversarial reflective material but haven't got round to using it yet.
I wish them Godspeed, and sadly I think there's no chance that they won't be crushed, and lots of people disappeared. The West needs the slave labor pool. The Biden admin is probably in meetings as we speak putting together an arms & consulting package to help the CCP crush the uprising, and Google & other tech companies are working overtime to help identify the perps. Same as in Ukraine, the US will not let a liberty movement succeed anywhere. That would be a very bad example that might give Americans 'wrong' ideas.
Love your stuff Celia. As a journo myself (albeit one who transitions to the dark side from time to time) I always find an angle I haven't seen or thought of when I read you.
A tip: in mid October I was told China and Saudi had ironed out an agreement to sell oil for renminbi, dated to start November 1. This would begin a very serious negative financial cascade on the US economy. Needless to say, the headline "Iran threatening to attack Saudi Arabia" began moving at the end of October. No deal announced.
Xi is set to visit Saudi in December. No question he's there to discuss that deal and potentially make an announcement.
It is not a coincidence protests are breaking out in China right now.
It would be good for us all to familiarize ourselves with how the french branch of the already existing psycopathic banker society destroyed the Iroquois confederation of several "indian" tribes in southeastern canada. Any of the details I'll mention may be wrong, I'll go read more, but I'm here to encourage others to learn what they can about it if they don't know.
These tribes got together and created a defense pact. Any attack on any of the tribes would incite an immediate response from all of the tribes. This permitted peace for a long time.
Along come the french, they gain the trust of the indians and then call a meeting. The leaders of all of the tribes show up. The french kidnap them and put them on ships back to europe where they are sold as slaves. End of the peaceful "indian" alliance.
And we have our "peace accords" at Paris. Aren't the same shitheads still running France, Europe and the world? I think they are. We will need to create our own currency to be rid of these creeps. They will respond with violence. We will need to respond to that. We will be defending ourselves. We need to stop thinking of self-defense as violence. In Israel, they have intentionally created a society in which most of the people can't distinguish self defense from aggressive violence. We'll need to avoid that trap.
Israel is an apartheid state. Why is that not being screamed from everywhere? Why can I find Jafa oranges at the supermarket? Why was south africa boycotted and Israel is not? Is it because of what Dave Chapelle said about using a certain two words in sequence?
When will these well-healed jewish upper middle class folks realize that they have been brainwashed and manipulated for many generations? It's so hard to get people with more money to realize that they might be making a mistake.
i think your comment is somewhat simplified, but i see the thread you are using and agree. It all comes down to that last line. People with lots of money seem to loose footage with the people that do not have that much money and feel themselves superior, and end up thinking they should own the world and the poor need to disappear apart from a group that can be used as working slaves
seems they have a system reminiscent of mark twain's encounter with the woman who would have accepted to be with him for a million dollars but was indignant when he mentioned 10 dollars afterward.
We all seem to have our price in fake dollars for how much we need to go along with the slavery system. But getting a lot just means you're a high priced slave, like the girl in Mark Twain's story would have been had she got the million.
When the dollar et cetera falls to zero, a bunch of whores who thought they got millions will see that they only have tens and that they're now always going to be slaves.
Please remember that the news we get in the US from Iran and China is unreliable, to say the least. The US govt has vowed to take down these other governments, and has a history of doing just that. There is ample evidence of the US empire meddling and orchestrating protests. We are being played when our natural tendency to jump to the support of the protestors is promoted through our censored news. I have no answers, but be very careful from here trying to judge and influence outcomes there. Sometimes we have to just accept our powerlessness and trust citizens of other countries to sort out their internal affairs. I hate to say that, as I want to help, but our history is of doing profound damage out of good intentions and ignorance. China has 1.4 billion informed and intelligent citizens. They are not powerless to make change without our meddling.
i think there is a saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't know if the US ever has good intentions to really help somewhere, i think it is rather a help of self interest. Not much good has come of the interventions and lot is going wrong in the US. Why does the US always have to put its Pinocchio nose into other people's business?
Americans are treated and trained to be "islanders" who live separate lives from the rest of the world. There is a continual condescending message in most peoples' head toward others--especially the Chinese, Arabs and the Russians--that endures throughout every dimension of American life. Children are educated with a perverted patriotism which is imprinted on tee-shirts, shoes, sitcoms, baseball, and the news. Why should anybody be expected to feel empathy for the suffering of the Chinese? It is not part of an American curriculum, an American agenda. Just think, if the most important thing to instill on every human on earth is that we are all the same, my God, every person would have empathy and be concerned for everyone else!!
I don't see what the 'no virus tinkering' you disparaging speak of, has got any thing to do with it!
If no 'virus' has ever been isolated/ purified, then no 'virus' has ever been isolated/purified...end of story! Come to terms with fact, or do you not bother reading original papers?
Are you joking? I wrote about this for the first time in 1993. When The Perth Group's first paper was published in Bio/Technology. I deleted that paragraph to keep the focus on the people of China and Iran. The no virus gang does not need me. God knows.
You have more patience than 10 saints ( I know catholic:) ) but I/ we appreciate you immensely. You are very thought provoking, smart, vulnerable and on point. Thank you
Can you give me a link to a paper that shows that isolation/purification (separation from everything else) of a virus has been achieved. It would be appreciated.
Re focusing on China and Iran. This doesn't have to be done to exclusion of other matters at hand...such a humour, etc which you have spent some time on. Have your comments on that distracted from focusing on China and Iran? Maybe. Maybe not.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate much of what you write. We agree on much...
Celia. I do not understand why there needed to be a 'war'. Given there was a war, obviously something other than science was involved. Egos? Status? Empires? Livelihoods? Corporate influence? etc, etc.
Interesting that the current no virus people are not acting at all in a war like manner. Simply using rational, cogent, scientific, dispassionate arguments backed up by appeals to original papers...and some with a twist of humour...
In my experience, 'virus believers' will not engage. Not even in any sort reasonable discussion or debate. They simply will not engage. Full stop!
I have a PhD chemistry friend who is a true believer in the narrative. Normally he is into debates, often in ways I do not like. I've asked him to justify his position and prove me wrong...I'm open to that. He does not respond, just shuts down any discussion. My MD bro in law, another true believer, refuses refuses to engage. His MD daughter, who is apparently in charge of the Covid response in a major city, has been invited to correct me, but again, nothing.
Suggest you look at 'The Virus Challenge', which you will find on the website > dr sam bailey dot com < I think under 'articles'...its easy to find. It is a purely scientific challenge, which I cannot conceive of anyone finding objectionable...and which to date I am unaware anyone has been prepared to take up. It has been out there a while now, and is fully funded...
The problem in China is that they’re tyrannical system is far advanced. As others have mentioned, facial recognition is a real threat. They can also track and trace better than we can here (for now). The biggest threat to modern civilization is the lack of awareness, critical thinking and complete control of “curated reality” MSM propaganda. I can’t help but draw parallels to “They Live” where the rebels decide to take out the alien’s signal source... The TV stations satellite dishes/communications.
I cannot help but think about those times when all these villains are under the same roof. What would happen if..? Would there be a repeat of the soldiers' reactions to Dorothy after she threw water on the witch? I kinda think there would be.
(I apologize to all the young who never watched "The Wizard of Oz" (1939) and will miss the reference. Please - Watch the old movies!)
This is encouraging when the citizens are determined to resist such unbelievable tyranny... especially in China. Imagine if the Chinese had guns. This is why we in the US must never surrender our arms.
How can it help us if a large number are not of one mind and organized? The Chinese people, (at least those who are revolting), may not be armed, but they are in agreement. A house divided cannot stand. Armed, one by one, or even localized groups, will never do. The small percentage of a much smaller population who fought the British were aligned; the Southerners were joined as were the Northerners, by and large, staking their lives on one mindset or set of beliefs. We are so divided these days, and more each day, I don't know how we can possibly take this on. I just can't see how we escape what's coming. I don't think we have much more chance than the Chinese, not with things as they are under the PTB.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to live in a simple world? The mobilization of public outcry is accomplished through reduction of complexity to false simplicity. We have all fallen victim to that at one time or another, but that experience fails to give us pause as we jump to join the perpetrators. Maybe we can remember someday that each of us has the best view of our front yard, and none at all of the antipodes.
I think it would be important to look into the idea that it has been the western bankers who have had control of China since the opium wars, that they've been installing leaders there like they install leaders here. Look at where Mao went to school. I think that says it. We have more in common with the chinese people than most of us think. We are slaves of the same shitheads who need to die as soon as we can kill them. I don't think they are human, so I"m not talking about murder, I'm talking about butchering the hogs who oppress us. Nobody will miss them, love was never part of their game. Even the chinese leader is a victim of these unseen parasites. We don't need to kill him, he just needs to get out of the way.
What do you think will happen?
I guess it's likely that the resistance will be crushed as before. They likely have found a special police force of foreign nationals in kevlar suits there like they did in canada, france, probably lots more places. We will need to think along the lines of how do we make a kevlar suit a disadvantage? It seems to me that if some chinese protesters capture some kevlar guys and find that they don't even speak the same language, that they are illegal immigrants, hessians, that may wake up even more chinese who are on the fence.
You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. I hope that there are some intelligent egg breaking chinese folks on the case. It's a risky business, their gov't apparently has machines to remove all traces of what used to be a human body in a matter of seconds. Even if that is exaggerated and it's a matter of minutes, it could be discouraging.
i read a few weeks ago, that a contingent of chinese soldiers arrived in the US but have found no further info. Might very well be, that foreign troups are handling chinese protests. The force behind all this is global, like schwab says. It is already there behind the screens and harrassing people all over the planet.
if we could gain control of our own countries in europe and usa, the thing to do would be to invade switzerland without so much as a phone call or a declaration of war. Go in there and get evreything back that should still be ours including great grandpa's gold teeth.
Switzerland is the shithole which would look better to me with the first 200 metres deep of the surface melted.
Of course you'd need the fictional nuclear arms that everybody's so afraid of to do that.
They don't exist. Just another scam.
Doesn't rule out going there and kicking their arses one at a time.
You’re the first person in a long time that has said what I say nuclear weapons are a scam. We are on the same team!! Aaaaaah my people!!
I once went to a forum where they were inculcating these lies in new doofuses with their pseudo-scientifique airs. When I started picking apart their explanation of how the bomb continues making lots of energy after the case is broken as opposed to having all of the particles instantly be far apart from each other and therefore no longer fissioning at all they banned me. No sense of humor at all.
The only thing I want for Christmas is a flamethrower
I’m thinking it would take action from subversives within the government , an internal coup that, timed with popular dissent , topples the regime. This is , of course the formula for regime change used by our state department for decades. In this case , a home grown version would be a cataclysmic event to globalists and could initiate a , dare I say “ domino effect” . Much yelling and waving of the arms...drastic actions that pull the blinders off many? “ old Charlie stole the handle, the train ,it won’t stop going. No way to slow down”
it will be important to make sure that the executions are visible to the public and that we apologize to them for letting them get to the point where now we have to stop them from having the rest of their lives.
You are right. Corbett covered it in 2014.
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-297-china-and-the-new-world-order/
More recently, 3/6/22 I believe, grandtheftworld mentioned the possibility that russians being banned from e.g. apple pay and other western credit systems pushed them into various chinese payment systems... Where they are overtly monitored and can be cut off by the credit score warriors.
But it undermines the notion that china is on the "side" of russia. If indeed russia is a holdout from the "western" hegemony many associate with central bankers and the WEF, china may not go along. It needs the resources, but with its population and russia distracted at all on its western front, China can take them. If this is a correct reading, then Putin by invading Ukraine / liberating Donetsk fell into the same trap Hitler did when he invaded Poland / liberated Danzig and east prussia.
Do we have any idea what kind of resources Putin is dedicating to this? It seems that unless we go there ourselves, we're believing the press. That never seems like a good plan. So much we don't know. Are the "vaccines" in China killing people as they are so clearly doing here? Not sure, are we? Maybe the chinese are getting nothing but vitamin c in their vaccines and are going to occupy Russia, but maybe there'll be only 100 million or less chinese in 2025.
I think about this a lot. It wouldn't be enough or fix the problem for good, but imagine the impact of simply removing just 10-20 of these fascists. Removing. Far be it from me to say "by any means possible." But with certain key figures gone, we could make a lot of headway through this nightmare.
Celia, it may be that the protestors are masked in order to evade the facial recognition surveillance in Chinese cities.
https://www.ft.com/content/42415608-340c-4c0a-8c93-f22cdd4cc2d6
..and that's what they 'fessed up to two years ago :-/
Can't read it - can you give me the gist?
THIS IS A SECTION OF THAT FT ARTICLE (from March 18, 2020):
Hanwang, the facial-recognition company that has placed 2m of its cameras at entrance gates across the world, started preparing for the coronavirus in early January.
Huang Lei, the company’s chief technical officer, said that even before the new virus was widely known about, he had begun to get requests from hospitals at the centre of the outbreak in Hubei province to update its software to recognise nurses wearing masks.
“We wouldn’t wait until something explodes to act. If three or five clients ask for the same thing . . . we’ll see that as important,” said Mr Huang, adding that its cameras previously only recognised people in masks half the time, compared with 99.5 per cent accuracy for a full face image.
Since then, demand has soared, from police stations, railway stations and all the office towers that use Hanwang’s cameras to screen employees, and Mr Huang reassigned teams of people to work on the challenge.
The company now says its masked facial recognition program has reached 95 per cent accuracy in lab tests, and even claims that it is more accurate in real life, where its cameras take multiple photos of a person if the first attempt to identify them fails.
THIS IS FROM 2022:
https://www.biometricupdate.com/202208/biometrics-work-too-well-with-face-masks-for-criminals-to-hide-or-for-anonymity
...and apparently an i-phone 12 can do it if you ask it nicely :-/
Ugh - I should have known they would be working on something like that.
Yup. Reflectacles supposedly block the uv cameras tracking your eyes. I have real trouble seeing through the damn things though. I also got some adversarial reflective material but haven't got round to using it yet.
I wish them Godspeed, and sadly I think there's no chance that they won't be crushed, and lots of people disappeared. The West needs the slave labor pool. The Biden admin is probably in meetings as we speak putting together an arms & consulting package to help the CCP crush the uprising, and Google & other tech companies are working overtime to help identify the perps. Same as in Ukraine, the US will not let a liberty movement succeed anywhere. That would be a very bad example that might give Americans 'wrong' ideas.
Love your stuff Celia. As a journo myself (albeit one who transitions to the dark side from time to time) I always find an angle I haven't seen or thought of when I read you.
A tip: in mid October I was told China and Saudi had ironed out an agreement to sell oil for renminbi, dated to start November 1. This would begin a very serious negative financial cascade on the US economy. Needless to say, the headline "Iran threatening to attack Saudi Arabia" began moving at the end of October. No deal announced.
Xi is set to visit Saudi in December. No question he's there to discuss that deal and potentially make an announcement.
It is not a coincidence protests are breaking out in China right now.
With you! And just added the appalling Twitter video to my post: Let Us Pray For The Chinese Protestors... "But, when life is worse than death, even the mute will speak out." https://rachelwild.substack.com/p/let-us-pray-for-the-chinese-protestors
It would be good for us all to familiarize ourselves with how the french branch of the already existing psycopathic banker society destroyed the Iroquois confederation of several "indian" tribes in southeastern canada. Any of the details I'll mention may be wrong, I'll go read more, but I'm here to encourage others to learn what they can about it if they don't know.
These tribes got together and created a defense pact. Any attack on any of the tribes would incite an immediate response from all of the tribes. This permitted peace for a long time.
Along come the french, they gain the trust of the indians and then call a meeting. The leaders of all of the tribes show up. The french kidnap them and put them on ships back to europe where they are sold as slaves. End of the peaceful "indian" alliance.
And we have our "peace accords" at Paris. Aren't the same shitheads still running France, Europe and the world? I think they are. We will need to create our own currency to be rid of these creeps. They will respond with violence. We will need to respond to that. We will be defending ourselves. We need to stop thinking of self-defense as violence. In Israel, they have intentionally created a society in which most of the people can't distinguish self defense from aggressive violence. We'll need to avoid that trap.
Israel is an apartheid state. Why is that not being screamed from everywhere? Why can I find Jafa oranges at the supermarket? Why was south africa boycotted and Israel is not? Is it because of what Dave Chapelle said about using a certain two words in sequence?
When will these well-healed jewish upper middle class folks realize that they have been brainwashed and manipulated for many generations? It's so hard to get people with more money to realize that they might be making a mistake.
i think your comment is somewhat simplified, but i see the thread you are using and agree. It all comes down to that last line. People with lots of money seem to loose footage with the people that do not have that much money and feel themselves superior, and end up thinking they should own the world and the poor need to disappear apart from a group that can be used as working slaves
seems they have a system reminiscent of mark twain's encounter with the woman who would have accepted to be with him for a million dollars but was indignant when he mentioned 10 dollars afterward.
We all seem to have our price in fake dollars for how much we need to go along with the slavery system. But getting a lot just means you're a high priced slave, like the girl in Mark Twain's story would have been had she got the million.
When the dollar et cetera falls to zero, a bunch of whores who thought they got millions will see that they only have tens and that they're now always going to be slaves.
https://rumble.com/v1mk6ux-europa-the-last-battle-2017-full-documentary-hd-the-history-of-the-cabal.html
https://www.booksamillion.com/p/International-Jew/Henry-Ford-Sr/9781593640187?gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=Cj0KCQiA1ZGcBhCoARIsAGQ0kkq4Ar9YPB807rXsx-NUAU8hh23gSTBUYS1u8ex5F4a-NHiAGG7wKFsaAmAOEALw_wcB
Now there’s a strategy
Biden isn't a puppet of the CCP. The CCP, Biden, the EU, UK and Russia, etc. are puppets of the globalists.
Please remember that the news we get in the US from Iran and China is unreliable, to say the least. The US govt has vowed to take down these other governments, and has a history of doing just that. There is ample evidence of the US empire meddling and orchestrating protests. We are being played when our natural tendency to jump to the support of the protestors is promoted through our censored news. I have no answers, but be very careful from here trying to judge and influence outcomes there. Sometimes we have to just accept our powerlessness and trust citizens of other countries to sort out their internal affairs. I hate to say that, as I want to help, but our history is of doing profound damage out of good intentions and ignorance. China has 1.4 billion informed and intelligent citizens. They are not powerless to make change without our meddling.
i think there is a saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't know if the US ever has good intentions to really help somewhere, i think it is rather a help of self interest. Not much good has come of the interventions and lot is going wrong in the US. Why does the US always have to put its Pinocchio nose into other people's business?
Americans are treated and trained to be "islanders" who live separate lives from the rest of the world. There is a continual condescending message in most peoples' head toward others--especially the Chinese, Arabs and the Russians--that endures throughout every dimension of American life. Children are educated with a perverted patriotism which is imprinted on tee-shirts, shoes, sitcoms, baseball, and the news. Why should anybody be expected to feel empathy for the suffering of the Chinese? It is not part of an American curriculum, an American agenda. Just think, if the most important thing to instill on every human on earth is that we are all the same, my God, every person would have empathy and be concerned for everyone else!!
You are probably right about the masks but I wonder if the idea is to thwart facial recognition software?
No, they've developed AI that can recognize faces with or without masks. Right down to eyeballs and ears.
I don't see what the 'no virus tinkering' you disparaging speak of, has got any thing to do with it!
If no 'virus' has ever been isolated/ purified, then no 'virus' has ever been isolated/purified...end of story! Come to terms with fact, or do you not bother reading original papers?
Are you joking? I wrote about this for the first time in 1993. When The Perth Group's first paper was published in Bio/Technology. I deleted that paragraph to keep the focus on the people of China and Iran. The no virus gang does not need me. God knows.
Tell Renton to pound sand..
You have more patience than 10 saints ( I know catholic:) ) but I/ we appreciate you immensely. You are very thought provoking, smart, vulnerable and on point. Thank you
Mark
Hear hear!!
Thank you.
Can you give me a link to a paper that shows that isolation/purification (separation from everything else) of a virus has been achieved. It would be appreciated.
Re focusing on China and Iran. This doesn't have to be done to exclusion of other matters at hand...such a humour, etc which you have spent some time on. Have your comments on that distracted from focusing on China and Iran? Maybe. Maybe not.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate much of what you write. We agree on much...
Renton, it does not seem to me that you know the first thing about the history of the no virus wars.
Celia. I do not understand why there needed to be a 'war'. Given there was a war, obviously something other than science was involved. Egos? Status? Empires? Livelihoods? Corporate influence? etc, etc.
Interesting that the current no virus people are not acting at all in a war like manner. Simply using rational, cogent, scientific, dispassionate arguments backed up by appeals to original papers...and some with a twist of humour...
In my experience, 'virus believers' will not engage. Not even in any sort reasonable discussion or debate. They simply will not engage. Full stop!
I have a PhD chemistry friend who is a true believer in the narrative. Normally he is into debates, often in ways I do not like. I've asked him to justify his position and prove me wrong...I'm open to that. He does not respond, just shuts down any discussion. My MD bro in law, another true believer, refuses refuses to engage. His MD daughter, who is apparently in charge of the Covid response in a major city, has been invited to correct me, but again, nothing.
Suggest you look at 'The Virus Challenge', which you will find on the website > dr sam bailey dot com < I think under 'articles'...its easy to find. It is a purely scientific challenge, which I cannot conceive of anyone finding objectionable...and which to date I am unaware anyone has been prepared to take up. It has been out there a while now, and is fully funded...
Good grief, Renton. I assume you’re being sincere and really don’t get it so …I’m rendered Speechless
The problem in China is that they’re tyrannical system is far advanced. As others have mentioned, facial recognition is a real threat. They can also track and trace better than we can here (for now). The biggest threat to modern civilization is the lack of awareness, critical thinking and complete control of “curated reality” MSM propaganda. I can’t help but draw parallels to “They Live” where the rebels decide to take out the alien’s signal source... The TV stations satellite dishes/communications.
I cannot help but think about those times when all these villains are under the same roof. What would happen if..? Would there be a repeat of the soldiers' reactions to Dorothy after she threw water on the witch? I kinda think there would be.
(I apologize to all the young who never watched "The Wizard of Oz" (1939) and will miss the reference. Please - Watch the old movies!)
This is encouraging when the citizens are determined to resist such unbelievable tyranny... especially in China. Imagine if the Chinese had guns. This is why we in the US must never surrender our arms.
How can it help us if a large number are not of one mind and organized? The Chinese people, (at least those who are revolting), may not be armed, but they are in agreement. A house divided cannot stand. Armed, one by one, or even localized groups, will never do. The small percentage of a much smaller population who fought the British were aligned; the Southerners were joined as were the Northerners, by and large, staking their lives on one mindset or set of beliefs. We are so divided these days, and more each day, I don't know how we can possibly take this on. I just can't see how we escape what's coming. I don't think we have much more chance than the Chinese, not with things as they are under the PTB.
https://youtu.be/TOU3eGEcoKQ the revolution starts NOW....
Wouldn't it be wonderful to live in a simple world? The mobilization of public outcry is accomplished through reduction of complexity to false simplicity. We have all fallen victim to that at one time or another, but that experience fails to give us pause as we jump to join the perpetrators. Maybe we can remember someday that each of us has the best view of our front yard, and none at all of the antipodes.
All these so-called protesters are wearing a muzzle, whereas it all started and it all should have ended with refusing to wear one:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-wudda-thunk
Compliance training has a long history in the US, too:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-brief-history-of-compliance-training