Not doing the doom and gloom stuff. If this is happening, then I guess it'll happen. What are we supposed to do about it? I'm done with the fearmongering - same thing that CNN does. I have no use for it.
I agree…I am becoming weary as well of all listening to or reading about all the “doom and gloom” stuff. I now have sufficient amount of information about how EVERYTHING is messed up, no matter where you turn…now what to do?…how to go about one’s life, and try to bring in more joy and wonder, rather than doom and gloom, is what I’m choosing to focus on. And I don’t feel this is a ‘Pollyanna-ish’ perspective, it’s more of a ‘survival technique’.
Absolutely. There is no reason to live in constant fear of stuff we can't control. Knowing about things is fine to a point. The world has always been dangerous. It's really nothing new. We can only control how we choose to live, and what we give our time to thinking about.
climate scare about Greenland melting shutting down Atlantic Ocean circulation:
1. WaPo scare: Added freshwater could weaken the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, known as the AMOC, which circulates warm, salty water from the tropics toward Europe and sends colder water south along the ocean floor. It also shuttles nutrients that help sustain ocean life"
Grüß Gott, we are miracles, we are miracles, we are miracles, we adapt, we can be in minus 20 and plus 30 within a day and go swimming and be fine, we are miracles, due to the fact that our creator is miraculous, we are miracles, the weather is the weather is the weather and is not the climate, models are models and will always be models, you can't fly in a model plane, we've got too many nincompoopers modeling life staring into a screen with no idea whatsoever about the reality of nature, just theories in how to model something, yes ofcourse there are eedjits trying to wreak havoc however they always leave the most important factor out of their calculations, walk in faith, Grüß Gott!
Greenland is losing more ice than it makes? Good grief. That is easily proven false. MSM just cannot stop themselves from inventing dying polar bear stories and other silliness.
All models are wrong, some are useful. A question is whether this is a useful model. (It was a model, an Imperial College model, that really got us into the doodoo in 2020.)
How I wish to see a world driven by compassion and a thirst for knowledge to appreciate the gifts of The Creator! Your fighting to make such a world possible is greatly appreciated!
CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EVEN WORSE FRAUD THAN THE PLANSCAMDEMIC! SO-CALLED GREEN TECH IS A GIGANTIC SCAM! MINING AND MANUFACTURING 'GREEN' PRODUCTS NEEDS COAL, GAS AND OIL AND MINING RARE MINERALS IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN LEGACY PRODUCTS. SCREW YOUR DAMNED AGENDA! https://climateviewer.com
The Military/Industrial Complex and the Biowarfare/industrial Complex, UN/WEF agenda and the evils assaulting humanity are from one and the same source - it is the 99% against the diabolical GREED of the 0.01% who should not be in charge of anything!
Proudly ANTI-VAXX! Reiterating for the sake of newbies and to support this post.
Ban all vaccine jabs! There has never been a 'safe and effective' vaccine since Edward Jenner's fraud over 200 years ago as per 'Dissolving Illusions' by Suzanne Humphries and 'Turtles All the Way Down' by Anonymous. Health can never come from a needle or pills, but from healthy eating, healthy exercise and healthy living! https://virustruth.net
JAB INJURIES: GROSS CALAMARI BLOOD CLOTS/AUTISM TSUNAMI/SADS/TURBO CANCER/BIZARRE TERMINAL ILLNESSES: More tragic victims of the ruling parasite genocidal enslavement agenda, sacrificed on the altar of psychopathic greed and hatred of humanity.
There is an insidious global ruling class plot to enslave all life on earth behind all the madness and suffering inflicted on We the People.
How to fight back against this NO CASH TOTAL SLAVERY!
RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! DITCH THE DAMNED 'SMART' PHONES AND THE DAMNED QR CODES AND GO BACK TO LANDLINES OR FLIP PHONES AND USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! INSIST ON CASH! CBDC IS TOTAL SLAVERY!
A vast majority of so-called leaders and Public 'Serpents' around the world have been bribed, blackmailed/coerced into serving the interests of their technocratic New World Ordure parasite masters and not We the People. Insidious CONTROLLED OPPOSITION is everywhere too.
GREED is behind every evil assailing us in the world!
The demonic despots of Davos at it again! They are behind everything bad! At it for decades and cronies like The Rothschilds and the Black Nobility and The Khazarian Mafia have been plotting planetary domination for centuries! ALL BECAUSE OF AVARICE!
We the People must try harder to live by The Golden Rule, doing so would solve most problems!
THEY can't get rid of the 'useless eaters' fast enough! Mistakes were not made, it was always malice aforethought.
Migrant/Entrant Invasion/Infrastructure Attacks - all part of the destructive plot to achieve total slavery!
Apoplectic livid rage hardly describes the intensity of emotions I have had and am having over what these malignant globalists are perpetrating!
There is no noxious crime that the evildoers desiring to lord it over us won't commit to maintain their stranglehold on power. A groundswell critical mass resistance to their murderous enslavement plans is needed urgently!
Creative performing arts, fine arts and literary arts are the best part of being human and the thing the globalist predator technocrat megalomaniac total slavery control freaks most want to destroy.
Too many 'sheeple' are brainwashed to blindly obey authority figures on the media or in daily life in corrupt system ruled by control freak psychopaths who use propaganda lies to enslave their subjects and they are dumbed down to be obedient by 'education' institutions. Fortunately I was raised to question everything. This transcends party lines. We need a system that punishes psychopaths and rewards compassion and sharing, we need a system that actually follows The Constitution in reality.
I DO NOT COMPLY! NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL!
There is a fate worse than death - I would rather die than be a robotized slave of technocratic overlords! This is my hill to die on!
I have a landline and a wired laptop and a wired monitor screen, all the tech anyone should ever want or need. I never had and refuse to ever have one of those infernal mobile devices that are designed to enslave you.
My loathing of AI and all things NANO and digital knows no bounds!
Kudos to Celia Farber's heroic efforts and success in the struggle. We the People must always be aware of the existential threats lurking behind this fight!
How I stick my thumb in the eyes of the grotesque billionaire bastards pushing their enslavement agenda and how I embrace being fully human.
Fighting the globalist predator technocrat psychopath megalomaniac TOTAL SLAVERY AGENDA one performance at a time!
Amazing Amy: Eccentric Yoga Entertainer!
As an entertainer, I have been devastated and practically destroyed by the closure of all performance venues and then when they reopened, because MY BODY, MY CHOICE - being made a total untermenschen pariah outcast in NAZI NIGHTMARE LAWLESS 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' JAB CROW APARTHEID/DISCRIMINATION/SEGREGATION HELL NYC WHERE THE MAD/DRUNK WITH POWER TYRANT POLS DOUBLE DOWN ON THEIR ILLEGAL MANDATES. I am trapped here with zero financial resources to leave or do anything else about this 'wish I were dead' endless misery life has become. The tragic irony is that my SPREAD THE YOGA LOVE performances are all about health, miraculously overcoming age (68) and injury to achieve feats of flexibility few can attain at any age. So BIG PHARMA who wants to addict every person on the planet to their toxic products hate people like me who prove that we do not need them if we eat healthy organic food and exercise daily!
I try and live and embody the creative performing artistic world and life I so fervently want existence to be about.
They can stick their f*cking damned NANO, Digital IDs, AI, jabs and chips up their asses where the sun don't shine!
All manner of lies and propaganda spew forth from the upper echelons in governments worldwide who are completely intertwined with the global criminal ruling class that wants to commit the worst atrocities imaginable and suffer no consequences. And their corruption slithers down the chain of command creating petty tyrants everywhere.
We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!
It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back!
We must never lose sight of the larger picture of the vile malignance we are fighting against.
Other than getting rid of nuclear weapons which I support 100% the rest of the anti-nuclear peace movement and CLIMATE CRISIS propaganda is parroting UN utter GARBAGE, a complete surrender to the ENSLAVEMENT AGENDA by the diabolical despots of Davos - ruling class criminals who lust for total power and control and all of whom should be tried and jailed for life and their malign organizations dismantled: the UN, the WEF, the IMF, the WHO, the BIS, NATO, Blackrock, Vanguard, The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, The Bilderbergers, the CFR et al.
There is an evil predator globalist technocratic elite agenda of eugenics/depopulation/genocide using bioweapon poison jabs, war, geoengineering, EMF radiation, starvation and economic collapse - THE GREAT RESET/AGENDA 2030/4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION to get rid of billions of 'useless eaters' and to use nano tech to turn the survivors into ROBOTIZED COMPLIANT SLAVES! WAKE UP AND RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! These are psychopath megalomaniacs who want to play god by turning all life into digitized metaverse mechanistic synthetic biology to be manipulated by their AI algorithms. A more demonic sickening idea is nearly impossible to imagine!
APPALLED AND HORRIFIED AT INSANE TYRANNICAL PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TOTALITARIAN CONTROL! REVERSE THIS NOW!
MAKE THE WORLD AND AMERICA 2019 (comparatively speaking), AND FREE AGAIN!
NO, I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MORONIC SCARIANT SHMARIANT MONKEYSHINES! WAKE UP ALREADY!
TOTALLY CONDEMN BIDEN AND ALL OTHER POLS WHO HAVE NO POWER TO LAWLESSLY ACT LIKE AN EMPEROR OR DICTATOR AND DECREE JAB CROW 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' FASCIST SEGREGATION/DISCRIMINATION/APARTHEID VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE NUREMBERG CODES AND EVERY CIVIL RIGHT IMAGINABLE.
NO GREEN NEW DEALS OR BUILD BACK BETTER FROM THE CRIMINAL TECHNOCRAT TYRANTS KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS CRONIES FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.
STOP THE TERRIBLE TYRANNY OF THE TECHNOCRATS GLOBAL AGENDA OF TOTAL SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL USING THE VIRUS AS EXCUSE AND PROPAGANDA TOOL!
NO MUZZLING STIFLING MASK MANDATES! NO FORCED VACCINES! END TORTUROUS DEVASTATING LOCK DOWNS NOW! I WANT MY LIFE BACK.
Seriously Celia? You would believe ice melting into water in the north (Icelad, Greenland) would cause the water level to rise along the US eastern seaboard?
I don't know what to make of this. It all seems like the usual 'gloom and doom' narrative about climate change that the globalists are constantly pushing on us!
Diamond and Leah are doing really great work. He's a PhD in geology, so his interests include all things geophysical. And, he's a rational analyst who is able to provide sourced contradiction to all the climate change hysteria. They're also on board with the electric universe theories, ether, Birkeland currents, etc. Prime example of real new age thinking.
I am not sure Diamond has a PhD, but he is one of the best reporters using science as opposed to pseudoscience. He uses actual data, and I am talking about raw data and not sanitized-for-the-masses data. I know you know that, but apparently the audience here is not familiar with them or that practice. I am both a follower of Diamond and Leah, and for longer, the EUT. I trust what Diamond publishes far more than the utter nonsense of the MSM, who uses one qualifier for climate, CO2, for a very complex but not complicated science.
People want to believe that our planet is always the same, will never undergo any catastrophic changes have never bothered to research comparative mythology, ice core samples, linguistics, and new models for our universe, etc. I am not the only one to have noticed that the Parasites have structured their depopulation program for such an "interesting" time in our climate cycle.
By the way, Diamond's predictions for the changing climate patterns have been highly accurate, including his for larger and larger hail and for more frequent hailstorms.
I just discovered them but I trust them and am learning from them. I was clear about pole shift, last decade, since a scientist friend told me about it and I trusted him 100% will soon write about him. (Guy Alexis Obolesnky.) I am just learning about all the things going on in the oceans. It makes perfect sense that the oceans have circulation. And I like that they emphasize none of what happens with the atmosphere, and climate change, is our fault. None of it.
Never believe as you truly must have missed the report. Everything you know is a LIE.
All history is a lie.
Everything you think you know is absolutely bullshit.
Orville and Willbur Wright and there pos Airplane. Odd people were flying for 2000 years already on Airships.
The Aether was used as a natural power source on the top of Buildings everywhere. The Eiffel Tower is a Remnant of those devices. They had large balls of Mercury within and Electricity was free.
We are Electric Beings. The 7 chakras each can move to an alternative Dimension and our Solar Plexus is our Power Supply.
Sadly the bad news is the Matrix Movie was a documentary. We are being used as storage devices right now. Our DNA can store 200 Petsbytes per gram.
Humans are the Network. DOD is selling the tech to Amazon already.
There are Nano Sensors within everyone. The Jabs were construction kits.
Enjoy the Body as it is not what we are. We are spiritual beings and we are not these bodies. God Bless.
Just in case you were not being at least a bit sarcastic there, I must ask, did you forget to take your meds? The blue pills to calm down, lighten up, and feel normal? Or the red pills in order to see through the hype and embrace the despair and experience the pity of it all? :)
I've heard that theory for over a decade ... it's literally the plot of the blockbuster movie on every streamer "The Day After Tomorrow" ... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/plotsummary/?ref_=tt_stry_pl#synopsis ... and therefore just another scaremongering narrative direct from the globalists for their faux "green" agenda.
I like that Diamond and Leah debunk so much pseudoscience that most people accept without question. They dig for information and share it with the intention of helping us understand our environment more accurately. I do follow them on Patreon.
Unbeknownst to most, out planet is not forever and ever stable. That idea was brought about in the late 1800s, I believe, and it was given the moniker, "uniformitarianism", or something like that. Our planet is anything but! Numerous catastrophes have occurred on our home planet and that stands to reason that they can happen again. To believe otherwise is naive. We have learned of dinosaurs and their demise. Doesn't that speak to the possibility of catastrophic endings?
Randall Carlson has done much to interject 'catastrophism' into the 'uniformitarian' dogma. Basically, it's a sanitized version of "shit happens." Who can disagree with that idea?
I may be incorrect on the PhD thing, but I think I heard him say that in one of his podcasts. Regardless, he's knowledgeable about geology and has taught university classes. He also has an open, inquisitive mind that allows him to entertain non-mainstream ideas concerning such disparate subjects as cosmology, anthropology, archeology and modern agriculture, examining all with a rational analysis.
Ekoh, thanks for the reference. Don't recognize that name but I'll look him up. What about Ken Wheeler and Fractal Woman? Familiar w/ their work? Ken has a yt channel called Theoria Apophosis.
I've known PhD's in Geology and other sciences and engineering who couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag. So, the "fact" (which I've not confirmed) that he has a PhD in Geology, and the further "fact" (assumption, really) that because he has a PhD in Geology that he therefore knows and understands and is interpreting (yes, this is all interpretation that they're doing) the "data" (it's gubmint approved data, and so therefore absolutely suspect) is illogical. It's also illogical to make gigantic assumptions and interpretations such as those two are doing with so little data (and suspect data at that), and is entirely ridiculous. They're making themselves ridiculous.
I have a new friend, a lovely person, who is a PhD in Geology and has taught Geology at a major state university. He is quite mainstream and he believes in the pandemic, viruses, vaxxes and other questionable topics. To make an assertion that Diamond is of the same mindset and that using actual raw data that can prove the official story false, you are doing the same thing that virus and pandemic believers do. No one knows everything, butt you seem to think Diamond and Leah are ridiculous when those two spend and inordinate amount of their time looking for real data and applying critical thinking skills to their findings.
You? Not so much. Where is your data to prove them wrong? Please post.
I've "proved" my point. I used LOGIC. Oh, and some knowledge of geological history. Cuz I'm a geoscientist, and I've taught also, so I know some geological history.
1) They're using GUBMINT approved "data", which is suspect, and thus every interpretation they make based on suspect "data" is itself suspect. As I'd stated.
And, 2) The "data" is extremely limited. Do we have "data" such as they're using going back millions of years? NO. Do we have "data" such as they're using going back through even ONE previous "ice age" (and, make no mistake, the Earth's been through FIVE major ice ages)? NO. Therefore, every interpretation they're making is suspect, As I'd also stated.
Why ? Because Diamond & Leah are talking science & Earth's designed natural life flows. Whereas, the Al 'Gorites' are talking about cashing in on financial opportunity & political globalist control by exploiting the notion of human havoc produced by man made Global Warming . Gore, et al, have zoomed in on the premise expounded by the power hungry Lyndon Baines Johnson, "He Who Controls The Weather Will Control The World". LBJ was happy to sacrifice John F. Kennedy to achieve his goals ... Al Gore is all too willing to sacrifice all of humanity to achieve his hegemonic goals.
1) Ideal gas laws DEFINITIVELY PROVE that CO2 does not cause global warming and in fact release of CO2 follows a temp rise in a closed system to keep it balanced (Temp rises, releasing trapped CO2 from water, inc. frozen ground).
2) Ice core records and tree rings also prove CO2 does not cause global warming.
3) Real science shows we are headed into a mini ice age - It's undeniable if searching via an uncensored search engine IE yandex.com
4) “Global warming” is globalist propaganda to control economies and divide/demoralize people for a system of global slavery. Control energy → control economy → control national/local governments.
FAKE ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING
Bottom line is that the Ideal Gas Laws PROVE CO2 does not cause global warming. Climate is cyclical and via inductance it’s directly connected to the EMF heliosphere of the sun - Field theory is a proven theory. Ideal Gas Laws are proven laws of physics. If that’s not enough for the sell-out co-called “scientists”, ice core data and tree rings also prove the same thing: temperature rises from the sun’s activity, which releases CO2 in the ocean and permafrost, which then cools the earth, because it’s a self-balancing system. The hockey stick graph of Al Gore’s and Michael Mann hides the fact that temp rises first and 600 years later CO2 rises to offset the temp. So what’s real… globalist climate models that mix and match positive and negative feedback variables and cherry pick temp data, or the laws of physics and proven theories of science? The only science globalists use is psychology to instil fear for mass manipulation, media hypnosis, bribery and BS for dumbed-down parrots that like to glue themselves to highways in protest of a life-giving gas.
*****GLOBAL WARMING REPORT
I put a report together for a presentation to 3rd year Enviro Science student in the Yukon, in 2010; they freaked out, quite literally. The instructor had to bring in the government head of environmental science to put the kids back in their safety bubble. Not one of them had read a book about the science of climate, but they all watched Al Gore’s movie and they all were trained to see oil as the enemy. This is the link to the report, if you’re interested: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1QBN2wqN2iKifGFuZzdEWy88uuUnvGhP_
The video called: 001 MAIN REPORT Enviro Impact on Yukon - Global warming, is interesting because it has interviews with NASA Scientists who disagreed with the IPCC, including some of the IPCC scientists themselves, who fought to get their names off the IPCC reports, because they also disagreed with the CO2 warming models. In fact most of the IPCC “scientists:” were just policy makers for the globalists. There never was a so-called consensus. But there were 30,000 scientists that disagreed with the IPCC, who were silenced and ignored by the government in the US. Also in there is an overview of Climategate evidence and Kiwigate. Probably a lot of this info is scrubbed from the net now.
*****FIRE AND ICE
FIRE AND ICE REPORT WAS SCRUBBED BUT STILL AVAILABLE ON THE WAYBACK MACHINE
Journalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide whether we face an ice age or global warming FYI… Ideal Gas Laws prove C02 doesn't cause global warming, as do ice cores and tree rings. Positive and negative feedback variables balance each other out via pressure, temp and vol. The change catalyst is the Sun:
COOLING 1900
New York Times February 24, 1867 - The Glacial Period
New York Times February 24, 1895 - Prospects of Another Glacial Period
New York Times October 7, 1912 - Glacial Era Coming
New York Times June 10, 1923 - Menace of a New Ice Age to be Tested by Scientists
Los Angeles Times June 28, 1923 - Ice-Age Theory will be Sifted
Chicago Daily Tribune August 9, 1923 - Scientist Says Arctic Ice Will Wipe Out Canada
Washington Post August 10, 1923 - Volcanoes in Australia; Ice Age Coming Here
Los Angeles Times April 6, 1924 - New Ice-Age is Forecast
New York Times September 28, 1924 - MacMillan Reports Signs of New Ice Age
Los Angeles Times March 11, 1929 - Is Another Ice Age Coming?
WARMING 1930
Washington Post August 2, 1930 - Hot Weather
Washington Post May 3, 1932 - Second World Flood Seen, if Earth’s Heat Increases
The New York Times May 15, 1932 - Next Great Deluge Forecast by Science
New York Times March 27, 1933 - America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temp. Line Records a 25-Year Rise
Time January 2, 1939 - Warmer World
New York Times August 10, 1952 - Our Changing Climate
New York Times July 12, 1953 - The Weather is Really Changing
New York Times February 15, 1959 - A Warmer Earth Evident at Poles
New York Times February 20, 1969 - Expert Says Arctic Ocean Will Soon Be an Open Sea
COOLING 1970
Washington Post January 11, 1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age
New York Times January 27, 1972 - Climate Experts Assay Ice Age Clues
Time June 24, 1974 - Another Ice Age?
New York Times August 8, 1974 - Climate Changes Endanger World’s Food Output
Newsweek April 28, 1975 - The Cooling World
International Wildlife July-August 1975 - In the Grip of a New Ice Age?
New York Times January 19, 1975 - Climate Changes Called Ominous
New York Times May 21, 1975 - Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead.
U.S. News & World Report May 31, 1976 - Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend
WARMING 1990
New York Times August 13, 1991 - Ranges Of Animals and Plants Head North
New York Times April 16, 1993 - TV Weekend; World Ends Not With a Bang, but a Heat Wave
New York Times December 8, 2002 - Arctic Ice Is Melting at Record Level, Scientists Say
Los Angeles Times December 16, 2005 - 2005 Vying With '98 as Record Hot Year
New York Times May 20, 2005 - Warming Is Blamed for Antarctica's Weight Gain
New York Times September 14, 2005 - Using Central Park to Study Global Warming and Flooding
New York Times October 25, 2005 - No Escape: Thaw Gains Momentum
New York Times December 27, 2005 - Past Hot Times Hold Few Reasons to Relax About New Warming
Telegraph February 2, 2006 - We've Lost Our Fear of Hellfire, But Put Climate Change in its Place
It's in my head and runs on the SLC (Scientifically Literate Commonsense) OS.
Here's why there is an oceanic circulation.
The sun radiates a roughly constant amount of energy into space that is increasing very slowly.
How slowly?
Using the Sagan App, I estimate that:
Increase over 1 million years: Approx. 0.01%
Increase over 100 million years: Approx 1%
All other things being equal, the Earth should be about 3ºC warmer now than it was 100 million years ago. But actually, it's quite a few degrees cooler, because all other things are no equal. Positions of the continents and oceans have changed radically. Mountains have risen and fallen. Atmospheric composition and possibly pressure MAY have changed significantly.
But the basic point is that most of the solar radiation that reaches the Earth's surface does so in the tropics, where it warms the oceans. Warm water tends to rise, but unless it evaporates, it can't rise any higher than the surface of the ocean. Some evaporates, but must just warms up a bit. This makes it less dense, so it spreads out over the surface, moving north and south, displacing cooler denser water as it goes, and conveying heat to the temperate and eventually to the polar regions.
At the same time, not much solar radiation reaches the higher latitudes, so the surface water in the oceans there naturally becomes cooler and denser and sinks into the ocean depths.
Hence solar radiation + the Earth being a ball with 70% of its surface covered in oceans up to 11 km deep and with an average depth of 4 km guarantees that there will be some kind of oceanic circulation. IT CAN'T STOP! IT'S BASIC PHYSICS! YOU CAN TEST IT IN A BATHTUB!
Now, the thermohaline circulation: Google tells me:
"What happens when thermohaline circulation stops?
Because of the importance of bottom water in global thermohaline circulation, heat transport to the poles from the equator would decrease if thermohaline circulation slowed or stopped. Polar regions would get colder because they would not be receiving as much heat."
"Using advanced statistical tools and ocean temperature data from the last 150 years, the researchers calculated that the ocean current, known as the Thermohaline Circulation or the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), will collapse -- with 95 percent certainty -- between 2025 and 2095."
Sound's scary, doesn't it?
But what they don't tell you is that the oceanic circulation will not collapse -- with 100 percent certainty as long as there are oceans and solar radiation. And as long as heat continues to flow from warmer to colder parts of a given medium or material.
Regarding the idea that the thermohaline circulation will collapse (95% certainty), I think it is highly unlikely but it needs to be investigated as a serious possibility by researchers and theorists who get a kick and a salary out of doing that sort of thing.
I think it is important to understand that in the current era, polar ice is melting and running into the oceans every summer in both the northern and southern hemispheres, and to significantly effect the salinity distribution of the water in the polar or high latitude oceans, a significant increase in the rate of summer polar ice melting would need to occur in Greenland and/or Antarctica.
This would in turn cause a significant rise is sea level worldwide. So we would not expect the thermohaline circulation to significantly decrease in the absence of a significant rise in sea level, would we?
What is significant, I hear you ask?
Significant was the 120 m rise in sea level that took place over the space of 12,000 years at the end of the last glacial. That's about a meter every century or 10 mm every year on average.
During the great melt, the most rapid rates of sea level rise occurred during distinct pulses or "meltwater pulses" between 14,500-13,500 years ago and 11,500-9,000 years ago. During these meltwater pulse periods, rates of sea level rise likely reached as high as 40-50 mm per year.
Generally speaking, in my view is that, as is the case in many subjects, if we only consider one factor and ignore all the other potential other factors, it is possible to conduct a doomsday scenario quite easily by varying that factor.
But in a complex system, such as the human body, or the global economy, or a rainforest, or the global ocean/atmosphere system, there are numerous factors at play, and the interplay between them can be subtle and difficult to ascertain.
As always, we need not only more data, but also more accurate data, and we need to consider and explore the effects of potential interactions between different factors.
Not doing the doom and gloom stuff. If this is happening, then I guess it'll happen. What are we supposed to do about it? I'm done with the fearmongering - same thing that CNN does. I have no use for it.
I agree…I am becoming weary as well of all listening to or reading about all the “doom and gloom” stuff. I now have sufficient amount of information about how EVERYTHING is messed up, no matter where you turn…now what to do?…how to go about one’s life, and try to bring in more joy and wonder, rather than doom and gloom, is what I’m choosing to focus on. And I don’t feel this is a ‘Pollyanna-ish’ perspective, it’s more of a ‘survival technique’.
Absolutely. There is no reason to live in constant fear of stuff we can't control. Knowing about things is fine to a point. The world has always been dangerous. It's really nothing new. We can only control how we choose to live, and what we give our time to thinking about.
Agree!
Hahahaha. But you replied here so clearly you are more part of it then most.
I think you mean "than" not "then."
Steve Milloy
@JunkScience
New Science study craps on
@washingtonpost
climate scare about Greenland melting shutting down Atlantic Ocean circulation:
1. WaPo scare: Added freshwater could weaken the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, known as the AMOC, which circulates warm, salty water from the tropics toward Europe and sends colder water south along the ocean floor. It also shuttles nutrients that help sustain ocean life"
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1798524304771977725
I can't see X posts. From the headline though it appears that Celia got her info from WaPo?
Grüß Gott, we are miracles, we are miracles, we are miracles, we adapt, we can be in minus 20 and plus 30 within a day and go swimming and be fine, we are miracles, due to the fact that our creator is miraculous, we are miracles, the weather is the weather is the weather and is not the climate, models are models and will always be models, you can't fly in a model plane, we've got too many nincompoopers modeling life staring into a screen with no idea whatsoever about the reality of nature, just theories in how to model something, yes ofcourse there are eedjits trying to wreak havoc however they always leave the most important factor out of their calculations, walk in faith, Grüß Gott!
Complete BULLSHIT
JUNK SCIENCE
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1798524304771977725
Greenland is losing more ice than it makes? Good grief. That is easily proven false. MSM just cannot stop themselves from inventing dying polar bear stories and other silliness.
Why “Zombie Ice” and other claims of Greenland ice melt raising sea levels are just modeled hokum
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/08/30/why-zombie-ice-and-other-claims-of-greenland-ice-melt-raising-sea-levels-are-just-modeled-hokum/
Just like AIDS and covid, their cure is the cause.
Perhaps the media is the virus.
Nah.
Couldn't be.
Yes, viral and we should all social distance from the mainstream media, for it is bought and paid for by the money changers.
And more and poverty and indoctrination, more of the same is the cure? Is anyone beginning to see that the love of money is the root of all evil?
All models are wrong, some are useful. A question is whether this is a useful model. (It was a model, an Imperial College model, that really got us into the doodoo in 2020.)
Can't say this often enough! SCREW the climate craziness and the germaphobic hypochondria fear hysteria!
The demonic despots of Davos at it again! Weather warfare: geoengineering/chemtrails are a large component of their anti-life arsenal!
Also join forces with Reinette Senum's SAVE OUR SKIES: https://www.saveourskies.org
http://www.frankenskiesthemovie.com/#watch
How I wish to see a world driven by compassion and a thirst for knowledge to appreciate the gifts of The Creator! Your fighting to make such a world possible is greatly appreciated!
CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EVEN WORSE FRAUD THAN THE PLANSCAMDEMIC! SO-CALLED GREEN TECH IS A GIGANTIC SCAM! MINING AND MANUFACTURING 'GREEN' PRODUCTS NEEDS COAL, GAS AND OIL AND MINING RARE MINERALS IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN LEGACY PRODUCTS. SCREW YOUR DAMNED AGENDA! https://climateviewer.com
The Military/Industrial Complex and the Biowarfare/industrial Complex, UN/WEF agenda and the evils assaulting humanity are from one and the same source - it is the 99% against the diabolical GREED of the 0.01% who should not be in charge of anything!
Proudly ANTI-VAXX! Reiterating for the sake of newbies and to support this post.
Ban all vaccine jabs! There has never been a 'safe and effective' vaccine since Edward Jenner's fraud over 200 years ago as per 'Dissolving Illusions' by Suzanne Humphries and 'Turtles All the Way Down' by Anonymous. Health can never come from a needle or pills, but from healthy eating, healthy exercise and healthy living! https://virustruth.net
JAB INJURIES: GROSS CALAMARI BLOOD CLOTS/AUTISM TSUNAMI/SADS/TURBO CANCER/BIZARRE TERMINAL ILLNESSES: More tragic victims of the ruling parasite genocidal enslavement agenda, sacrificed on the altar of psychopathic greed and hatred of humanity.
There is an insidious global ruling class plot to enslave all life on earth behind all the madness and suffering inflicted on We the People.
How to fight back against this NO CASH TOTAL SLAVERY!
RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! DITCH THE DAMNED 'SMART' PHONES AND THE DAMNED QR CODES AND GO BACK TO LANDLINES OR FLIP PHONES AND USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! INSIST ON CASH! CBDC IS TOTAL SLAVERY!
A vast majority of so-called leaders and Public 'Serpents' around the world have been bribed, blackmailed/coerced into serving the interests of their technocratic New World Ordure parasite masters and not We the People. Insidious CONTROLLED OPPOSITION is everywhere too.
GREED is behind every evil assailing us in the world!
The demonic despots of Davos at it again! They are behind everything bad! At it for decades and cronies like The Rothschilds and the Black Nobility and The Khazarian Mafia have been plotting planetary domination for centuries! ALL BECAUSE OF AVARICE!
We the People must try harder to live by The Golden Rule, doing so would solve most problems!
THEY can't get rid of the 'useless eaters' fast enough! Mistakes were not made, it was always malice aforethought.
Migrant/Entrant Invasion/Infrastructure Attacks - all part of the destructive plot to achieve total slavery!
Apoplectic livid rage hardly describes the intensity of emotions I have had and am having over what these malignant globalists are perpetrating!
There is no noxious crime that the evildoers desiring to lord it over us won't commit to maintain their stranglehold on power. A groundswell critical mass resistance to their murderous enslavement plans is needed urgently!
Creative performing arts, fine arts and literary arts are the best part of being human and the thing the globalist predator technocrat megalomaniac total slavery control freaks most want to destroy.
Too many 'sheeple' are brainwashed to blindly obey authority figures on the media or in daily life in corrupt system ruled by control freak psychopaths who use propaganda lies to enslave their subjects and they are dumbed down to be obedient by 'education' institutions. Fortunately I was raised to question everything. This transcends party lines. We need a system that punishes psychopaths and rewards compassion and sharing, we need a system that actually follows The Constitution in reality.
I DO NOT COMPLY! NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL!
There is a fate worse than death - I would rather die than be a robotized slave of technocratic overlords! This is my hill to die on!
I have a landline and a wired laptop and a wired monitor screen, all the tech anyone should ever want or need. I never had and refuse to ever have one of those infernal mobile devices that are designed to enslave you.
My loathing of AI and all things NANO and digital knows no bounds!
Kudos to Celia Farber's heroic efforts and success in the struggle. We the People must always be aware of the existential threats lurking behind this fight!
How I stick my thumb in the eyes of the grotesque billionaire bastards pushing their enslavement agenda and how I embrace being fully human.
Fighting the globalist predator technocrat psychopath megalomaniac TOTAL SLAVERY AGENDA one performance at a time!
Amazing Amy: Eccentric Yoga Entertainer!
As an entertainer, I have been devastated and practically destroyed by the closure of all performance venues and then when they reopened, because MY BODY, MY CHOICE - being made a total untermenschen pariah outcast in NAZI NIGHTMARE LAWLESS 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' JAB CROW APARTHEID/DISCRIMINATION/SEGREGATION HELL NYC WHERE THE MAD/DRUNK WITH POWER TYRANT POLS DOUBLE DOWN ON THEIR ILLEGAL MANDATES. I am trapped here with zero financial resources to leave or do anything else about this 'wish I were dead' endless misery life has become. The tragic irony is that my SPREAD THE YOGA LOVE performances are all about health, miraculously overcoming age (68) and injury to achieve feats of flexibility few can attain at any age. So BIG PHARMA who wants to addict every person on the planet to their toxic products hate people like me who prove that we do not need them if we eat healthy organic food and exercise daily!
https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/amazingamycontortionistuniqueyogadancer
I try and live and embody the creative performing artistic world and life I so fervently want existence to be about.
They can stick their f*cking damned NANO, Digital IDs, AI, jabs and chips up their asses where the sun don't shine!
All manner of lies and propaganda spew forth from the upper echelons in governments worldwide who are completely intertwined with the global criminal ruling class that wants to commit the worst atrocities imaginable and suffer no consequences. And their corruption slithers down the chain of command creating petty tyrants everywhere.
We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!
It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back!
We must never lose sight of the larger picture of the vile malignance we are fighting against.
Other than getting rid of nuclear weapons which I support 100% the rest of the anti-nuclear peace movement and CLIMATE CRISIS propaganda is parroting UN utter GARBAGE, a complete surrender to the ENSLAVEMENT AGENDA by the diabolical despots of Davos - ruling class criminals who lust for total power and control and all of whom should be tried and jailed for life and their malign organizations dismantled: the UN, the WEF, the IMF, the WHO, the BIS, NATO, Blackrock, Vanguard, The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, The Bilderbergers, the CFR et al.
There is an evil predator globalist technocratic elite agenda of eugenics/depopulation/genocide using bioweapon poison jabs, war, geoengineering, EMF radiation, starvation and economic collapse - THE GREAT RESET/AGENDA 2030/4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION to get rid of billions of 'useless eaters' and to use nano tech to turn the survivors into ROBOTIZED COMPLIANT SLAVES! WAKE UP AND RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! These are psychopath megalomaniacs who want to play god by turning all life into digitized metaverse mechanistic synthetic biology to be manipulated by their AI algorithms. A more demonic sickening idea is nearly impossible to imagine!
APPALLED AND HORRIFIED AT INSANE TYRANNICAL PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TOTALITARIAN CONTROL! REVERSE THIS NOW!
MAKE THE WORLD AND AMERICA 2019 (comparatively speaking), AND FREE AGAIN!
NO, I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MORONIC SCARIANT SHMARIANT MONKEYSHINES! WAKE UP ALREADY!
TOTALLY CONDEMN BIDEN AND ALL OTHER POLS WHO HAVE NO POWER TO LAWLESSLY ACT LIKE AN EMPEROR OR DICTATOR AND DECREE JAB CROW 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' FASCIST SEGREGATION/DISCRIMINATION/APARTHEID VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE NUREMBERG CODES AND EVERY CIVIL RIGHT IMAGINABLE.
NO GREEN NEW DEALS OR BUILD BACK BETTER FROM THE CRIMINAL TECHNOCRAT TYRANTS KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS CRONIES FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.
STOP THE TERRIBLE TYRANNY OF THE TECHNOCRATS GLOBAL AGENDA OF TOTAL SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL USING THE VIRUS AS EXCUSE AND PROPAGANDA TOOL!
NO MUZZLING STIFLING MASK MANDATES! NO FORCED VACCINES! END TORTUROUS DEVASTATING LOCK DOWNS NOW! I WANT MY LIFE BACK.
Doncha like how...the MSM screams and screams "Klimate Change!!!Eleventy@$#!!!÷×!!!"...
But notta *peep* about how>>> "Weather warfare: geoengineering/chemtrails
are a large component of their anti-life arsenal!"
Perhaps we need to take another look at those "models".
Hmmmmm??
Links to reinforce my comments.
https://wrenchinthegears.com
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com
https://pandemicfacts.info
https://wearehumanwearefree.org/7-days-campaign/
https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/covid-19-roadmap-12-step-plan-to-create-a-totalitarian-new-world-order-were-on-number-8-headed-towards-number-9/
https://questioningcovid.com
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1581-james-corbett-breaks-down-the-great-reset/
http://www.stopcp.com/GlobalResetPSYOP/GlobalResetPSYOPMindMap.html
https://everydayconcerned.net/2020/09/04/breaking-major-investigative-report-by-association-of-french-reserve-army-officers-finds-covid-19-pandemic-to-have-a-hidden-agenda-for-global-totalitarianism-nanotech-chipping-of-all-5g-irradia/
Pam Popper: https://makeamericansfreeagain.com
Del Bigtree: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/highwire
https://www.technocracy.news
Naomi Wolf: https://dailyclout.io
www.nojabforme.info
https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-must-awaken-from-corona-coma-reject-great-reset-robotic-technocracy-assert-common-humanity/5745213
You should hang yourself now. All that typing for what? Do you feel better or worse.
Pretty sure she just copies and pastes. Its always the same posts from this one. ;-)
No one pays her much attention.
Seriously Celia? You would believe ice melting into water in the north (Icelad, Greenland) would cause the water level to rise along the US eastern seaboard?
NOT A CHANCE.
The article you posted is a bunch of bullcrap.
Actually the more water you add it autolevels to the current level set. There are holes in the floor.
It's all a Simulacrum. We are not really here at all.
I don't know what to make of this. It all seems like the usual 'gloom and doom' narrative about climate change that the globalists are constantly pushing on us!
Encl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW_OkRPRzAk&t=1741s
Diamond and Leah are doing really great work. He's a PhD in geology, so his interests include all things geophysical. And, he's a rational analyst who is able to provide sourced contradiction to all the climate change hysteria. They're also on board with the electric universe theories, ether, Birkeland currents, etc. Prime example of real new age thinking.
I am not sure Diamond has a PhD, but he is one of the best reporters using science as opposed to pseudoscience. He uses actual data, and I am talking about raw data and not sanitized-for-the-masses data. I know you know that, but apparently the audience here is not familiar with them or that practice. I am both a follower of Diamond and Leah, and for longer, the EUT. I trust what Diamond publishes far more than the utter nonsense of the MSM, who uses one qualifier for climate, CO2, for a very complex but not complicated science.
People want to believe that our planet is always the same, will never undergo any catastrophic changes have never bothered to research comparative mythology, ice core samples, linguistics, and new models for our universe, etc. I am not the only one to have noticed that the Parasites have structured their depopulation program for such an "interesting" time in our climate cycle.
By the way, Diamond's predictions for the changing climate patterns have been highly accurate, including his for larger and larger hail and for more frequent hailstorms.
I just discovered them but I trust them and am learning from them. I was clear about pole shift, last decade, since a scientist friend told me about it and I trusted him 100% will soon write about him. (Guy Alexis Obolesnky.) I am just learning about all the things going on in the oceans. It makes perfect sense that the oceans have circulation. And I like that they emphasize none of what happens with the atmosphere, and climate change, is our fault. None of it.
Hahaha Welcome to ClownWorld
Jon certainly cleared the pathway for us all.
Never believe as you truly must have missed the report. Everything you know is a LIE.
All history is a lie.
Everything you think you know is absolutely bullshit.
Orville and Willbur Wright and there pos Airplane. Odd people were flying for 2000 years already on Airships.
The Aether was used as a natural power source on the top of Buildings everywhere. The Eiffel Tower is a Remnant of those devices. They had large balls of Mercury within and Electricity was free.
We are Electric Beings. The 7 chakras each can move to an alternative Dimension and our Solar Plexus is our Power Supply.
Sadly the bad news is the Matrix Movie was a documentary. We are being used as storage devices right now. Our DNA can store 200 Petsbytes per gram.
Humans are the Network. DOD is selling the tech to Amazon already.
There are Nano Sensors within everyone. The Jabs were construction kits.
Enjoy the Body as it is not what we are. We are spiritual beings and we are not these bodies. God Bless.
Just in case you were not being at least a bit sarcastic there, I must ask, did you forget to take your meds? The blue pills to calm down, lighten up, and feel normal? Or the red pills in order to see through the hype and embrace the despair and experience the pity of it all? :)
I've heard that theory for over a decade ... it's literally the plot of the blockbuster movie on every streamer "The Day After Tomorrow" ... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/plotsummary/?ref_=tt_stry_pl#synopsis ... and therefore just another scaremongering narrative direct from the globalists for their faux "green" agenda.
Please check out @sunweatherman on X / Suspicious0bservers on YT.
The ocean circulation patterns is well known.
I like that Diamond and Leah debunk so much pseudoscience that most people accept without question. They dig for information and share it with the intention of helping us understand our environment more accurately. I do follow them on Patreon.
Unbeknownst to most, out planet is not forever and ever stable. That idea was brought about in the late 1800s, I believe, and it was given the moniker, "uniformitarianism", or something like that. Our planet is anything but! Numerous catastrophes have occurred on our home planet and that stands to reason that they can happen again. To believe otherwise is naive. We have learned of dinosaurs and their demise. Doesn't that speak to the possibility of catastrophic endings?
Randall Carlson has done much to interject 'catastrophism' into the 'uniformitarian' dogma. Basically, it's a sanitized version of "shit happens." Who can disagree with that idea?
I may be incorrect on the PhD thing, but I think I heard him say that in one of his podcasts. Regardless, he's knowledgeable about geology and has taught university classes. He also has an open, inquisitive mind that allows him to entertain non-mainstream ideas concerning such disparate subjects as cosmology, anthropology, archeology and modern agriculture, examining all with a rational analysis.
Agree. I trust Diamond over many others for his claims because he looks for real data and he applies critical thinking to his findings.
Tony Heller is another trustworthy voice for reason.
Yes! I love Tony Heller. Straight up guy who reports facts.
Cap Allon of Electroverse is another who reports things contrary to MSM drivel. He has a Substack.
Ekoh, thanks for the reference. Don't recognize that name but I'll look him up. What about Ken Wheeler and Fractal Woman? Familiar w/ their work? Ken has a yt channel called Theoria Apophosis.
I've known PhD's in Geology and other sciences and engineering who couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag. So, the "fact" (which I've not confirmed) that he has a PhD in Geology, and the further "fact" (assumption, really) that because he has a PhD in Geology that he therefore knows and understands and is interpreting (yes, this is all interpretation that they're doing) the "data" (it's gubmint approved data, and so therefore absolutely suspect) is illogical. It's also illogical to make gigantic assumptions and interpretations such as those two are doing with so little data (and suspect data at that), and is entirely ridiculous. They're making themselves ridiculous.
I have a new friend, a lovely person, who is a PhD in Geology and has taught Geology at a major state university. He is quite mainstream and he believes in the pandemic, viruses, vaxxes and other questionable topics. To make an assertion that Diamond is of the same mindset and that using actual raw data that can prove the official story false, you are doing the same thing that virus and pandemic believers do. No one knows everything, butt you seem to think Diamond and Leah are ridiculous when those two spend and inordinate amount of their time looking for real data and applying critical thinking skills to their findings.
You? Not so much. Where is your data to prove them wrong? Please post.
I've "proved" my point. I used LOGIC. Oh, and some knowledge of geological history. Cuz I'm a geoscientist, and I've taught also, so I know some geological history.
1) They're using GUBMINT approved "data", which is suspect, and thus every interpretation they make based on suspect "data" is itself suspect. As I'd stated.
And, 2) The "data" is extremely limited. Do we have "data" such as they're using going back millions of years? NO. Do we have "data" such as they're using going back through even ONE previous "ice age" (and, make no mistake, the Earth's been through FIVE major ice ages)? NO. Therefore, every interpretation they're making is suspect, As I'd also stated.
LOGIC. Please use it yourself.
but, not butt Typo.
Things might really go haywire in 2025 if our solar system enters the "galactic current sheet" as predicted in this 2021 link:
https://prepareforchange.net/2021/07/26/galactic-energy-shift-is-biggest-question-facing-mankind/
Why ? Because Diamond & Leah are talking science & Earth's designed natural life flows. Whereas, the Al 'Gorites' are talking about cashing in on financial opportunity & political globalist control by exploiting the notion of human havoc produced by man made Global Warming . Gore, et al, have zoomed in on the premise expounded by the power hungry Lyndon Baines Johnson, "He Who Controls The Weather Will Control The World". LBJ was happy to sacrifice John F. Kennedy to achieve his goals ... Al Gore is all too willing to sacrifice all of humanity to achieve his hegemonic goals.
Just heard about this film:
https://rumble.com/v39uii8-un-conventional.html
We need to pay more taxes.
Only our honest, competent, and extremely accountable government can solve this.
*****FAKE GLOBAL WARMING
1) Ideal gas laws DEFINITIVELY PROVE that CO2 does not cause global warming and in fact release of CO2 follows a temp rise in a closed system to keep it balanced (Temp rises, releasing trapped CO2 from water, inc. frozen ground).
2) Ice core records and tree rings also prove CO2 does not cause global warming.
3) Real science shows we are headed into a mini ice age - It's undeniable if searching via an uncensored search engine IE yandex.com
4) “Global warming” is globalist propaganda to control economies and divide/demoralize people for a system of global slavery. Control energy → control economy → control national/local governments.
FAKE ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING
Bottom line is that the Ideal Gas Laws PROVE CO2 does not cause global warming. Climate is cyclical and via inductance it’s directly connected to the EMF heliosphere of the sun - Field theory is a proven theory. Ideal Gas Laws are proven laws of physics. If that’s not enough for the sell-out co-called “scientists”, ice core data and tree rings also prove the same thing: temperature rises from the sun’s activity, which releases CO2 in the ocean and permafrost, which then cools the earth, because it’s a self-balancing system. The hockey stick graph of Al Gore’s and Michael Mann hides the fact that temp rises first and 600 years later CO2 rises to offset the temp. So what’s real… globalist climate models that mix and match positive and negative feedback variables and cherry pick temp data, or the laws of physics and proven theories of science? The only science globalists use is psychology to instil fear for mass manipulation, media hypnosis, bribery and BS for dumbed-down parrots that like to glue themselves to highways in protest of a life-giving gas.
*****GLOBAL WARMING REPORT
I put a report together for a presentation to 3rd year Enviro Science student in the Yukon, in 2010; they freaked out, quite literally. The instructor had to bring in the government head of environmental science to put the kids back in their safety bubble. Not one of them had read a book about the science of climate, but they all watched Al Gore’s movie and they all were trained to see oil as the enemy. This is the link to the report, if you’re interested: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1QBN2wqN2iKifGFuZzdEWy88uuUnvGhP_
The video called: 001 MAIN REPORT Enviro Impact on Yukon - Global warming, is interesting because it has interviews with NASA Scientists who disagreed with the IPCC, including some of the IPCC scientists themselves, who fought to get their names off the IPCC reports, because they also disagreed with the CO2 warming models. In fact most of the IPCC “scientists:” were just policy makers for the globalists. There never was a so-called consensus. But there were 30,000 scientists that disagreed with the IPCC, who were silenced and ignored by the government in the US. Also in there is an overview of Climategate evidence and Kiwigate. Probably a lot of this info is scrubbed from the net now.
*****FIRE AND ICE
FIRE AND ICE REPORT WAS SCRUBBED BUT STILL AVAILABLE ON THE WAYBACK MACHINE
Journalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide whether we face an ice age or global warming FYI… Ideal Gas Laws prove C02 doesn't cause global warming, as do ice cores and tree rings. Positive and negative feedback variables balance each other out via pressure, temp and vol. The change catalyst is the Sun:
COOLING 1900
New York Times February 24, 1867 - The Glacial Period
New York Times February 24, 1895 - Prospects of Another Glacial Period
New York Times October 7, 1912 - Glacial Era Coming
New York Times June 10, 1923 - Menace of a New Ice Age to be Tested by Scientists
Los Angeles Times June 28, 1923 - Ice-Age Theory will be Sifted
Chicago Daily Tribune August 9, 1923 - Scientist Says Arctic Ice Will Wipe Out Canada
Washington Post August 10, 1923 - Volcanoes in Australia; Ice Age Coming Here
Los Angeles Times April 6, 1924 - New Ice-Age is Forecast
New York Times September 28, 1924 - MacMillan Reports Signs of New Ice Age
Los Angeles Times March 11, 1929 - Is Another Ice Age Coming?
WARMING 1930
Washington Post August 2, 1930 - Hot Weather
Washington Post May 3, 1932 - Second World Flood Seen, if Earth’s Heat Increases
The New York Times May 15, 1932 - Next Great Deluge Forecast by Science
New York Times March 27, 1933 - America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temp. Line Records a 25-Year Rise
Time January 2, 1939 - Warmer World
New York Times August 10, 1952 - Our Changing Climate
New York Times July 12, 1953 - The Weather is Really Changing
New York Times February 15, 1959 - A Warmer Earth Evident at Poles
New York Times February 20, 1969 - Expert Says Arctic Ocean Will Soon Be an Open Sea
COOLING 1970
Washington Post January 11, 1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age
New York Times January 27, 1972 - Climate Experts Assay Ice Age Clues
Time June 24, 1974 - Another Ice Age?
New York Times August 8, 1974 - Climate Changes Endanger World’s Food Output
Newsweek April 28, 1975 - The Cooling World
International Wildlife July-August 1975 - In the Grip of a New Ice Age?
New York Times January 19, 1975 - Climate Changes Called Ominous
New York Times May 21, 1975 - Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead.
U.S. News & World Report May 31, 1976 - Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend
WARMING 1990
New York Times August 13, 1991 - Ranges Of Animals and Plants Head North
New York Times April 16, 1993 - TV Weekend; World Ends Not With a Bang, but a Heat Wave
New York Times December 8, 2002 - Arctic Ice Is Melting at Record Level, Scientists Say
Los Angeles Times December 16, 2005 - 2005 Vying With '98 as Record Hot Year
New York Times May 20, 2005 - Warming Is Blamed for Antarctica's Weight Gain
New York Times September 14, 2005 - Using Central Park to Study Global Warming and Flooding
New York Times October 25, 2005 - No Escape: Thaw Gains Momentum
New York Times December 27, 2005 - Past Hot Times Hold Few Reasons to Relax About New Warming
Telegraph February 2, 2006 - We've Lost Our Fear of Hellfire, But Put Climate Change in its Place
SCRUBBED FROM NET BUT STILL ON WAYBACK MACHINE https://web.archive.org/web/20060816171020/http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice_Bibliography.asp
I have a supercomputer that runs climate models.
It's in my head and runs on the SLC (Scientifically Literate Commonsense) OS.
Here's why there is an oceanic circulation.
The sun radiates a roughly constant amount of energy into space that is increasing very slowly.
How slowly?
Using the Sagan App, I estimate that:
Increase over 1 million years: Approx. 0.01%
Increase over 100 million years: Approx 1%
All other things being equal, the Earth should be about 3ºC warmer now than it was 100 million years ago. But actually, it's quite a few degrees cooler, because all other things are no equal. Positions of the continents and oceans have changed radically. Mountains have risen and fallen. Atmospheric composition and possibly pressure MAY have changed significantly.
But the basic point is that most of the solar radiation that reaches the Earth's surface does so in the tropics, where it warms the oceans. Warm water tends to rise, but unless it evaporates, it can't rise any higher than the surface of the ocean. Some evaporates, but must just warms up a bit. This makes it less dense, so it spreads out over the surface, moving north and south, displacing cooler denser water as it goes, and conveying heat to the temperate and eventually to the polar regions.
At the same time, not much solar radiation reaches the higher latitudes, so the surface water in the oceans there naturally becomes cooler and denser and sinks into the ocean depths.
Hence solar radiation + the Earth being a ball with 70% of its surface covered in oceans up to 11 km deep and with an average depth of 4 km guarantees that there will be some kind of oceanic circulation. IT CAN'T STOP! IT'S BASIC PHYSICS! YOU CAN TEST IT IN A BATHTUB!
Now, the thermohaline circulation: Google tells me:
"What happens when thermohaline circulation stops?
Because of the importance of bottom water in global thermohaline circulation, heat transport to the poles from the equator would decrease if thermohaline circulation slowed or stopped. Polar regions would get colder because they would not be receiving as much heat."
"Using advanced statistical tools and ocean temperature data from the last 150 years, the researchers calculated that the ocean current, known as the Thermohaline Circulation or the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), will collapse -- with 95 percent certainty -- between 2025 and 2095."
Sound's scary, doesn't it?
But what they don't tell you is that the oceanic circulation will not collapse -- with 100 percent certainty as long as there are oceans and solar radiation. And as long as heat continues to flow from warmer to colder parts of a given medium or material.
Regarding the idea that the thermohaline circulation will collapse (95% certainty), I think it is highly unlikely but it needs to be investigated as a serious possibility by researchers and theorists who get a kick and a salary out of doing that sort of thing.
I think it is important to understand that in the current era, polar ice is melting and running into the oceans every summer in both the northern and southern hemispheres, and to significantly effect the salinity distribution of the water in the polar or high latitude oceans, a significant increase in the rate of summer polar ice melting would need to occur in Greenland and/or Antarctica.
This would in turn cause a significant rise is sea level worldwide. So we would not expect the thermohaline circulation to significantly decrease in the absence of a significant rise in sea level, would we?
What is significant, I hear you ask?
Significant was the 120 m rise in sea level that took place over the space of 12,000 years at the end of the last glacial. That's about a meter every century or 10 mm every year on average.
During the great melt, the most rapid rates of sea level rise occurred during distinct pulses or "meltwater pulses" between 14,500-13,500 years ago and 11,500-9,000 years ago. During these meltwater pulse periods, rates of sea level rise likely reached as high as 40-50 mm per year.
Generally speaking, in my view is that, as is the case in many subjects, if we only consider one factor and ignore all the other potential other factors, it is possible to conduct a doomsday scenario quite easily by varying that factor.
But in a complex system, such as the human body, or the global economy, or a rainforest, or the global ocean/atmosphere system, there are numerous factors at play, and the interplay between them can be subtle and difficult to ascertain.
As always, we need not only more data, but also more accurate data, and we need to consider and explore the effects of potential interactions between different factors.
Let's have a meeting! / No Agenda! - 'Heat Wave' / Weather or Climate Crisis?
https://mp3s.nashownotes.com/NA-1671-2024-06-23-Final.mp3