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Nov 8, 2023·edited Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

My child was jab injured some 18 years ago. We were gaslit and offered more harming drugs and tests. Upon entering government schooling, she was (as a child with special needs) quite abused by the 'education system'. I also discovered around the same time that the food was making us sicker instead of providing us with nutrition. Once I understood this was no accident, but that government and all it's systems are manipulated against us, we started homeschooling, homesteading and said farewell to the sick care system. I wonder how many people will come to the same conclusions after the covid scam. Government has NOTHING to offer to the people but organized abuse, misery, death and destruction while lining their own pockets.

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My family also started on this same journey 16.5 years ago, almost losing our middle son after his first set of vaccinations. We started looking at herbals and frequencies for healing. We grew our own food for a while as well. We also made the decision to homeschool our 2 youngest kids. We moved to a place where the climate discourages gardening, but we have created contacts and community around people who have learned to overcome the climate and share their bounty. I’m still learning in this area, as well as herbalism and energy (frequency) modalities, and share my knowledge with anyone willing to learn. This area is full of like minded people, as far as less government is better. They are slowly opening their eyes to the broken state of the education system. This year has seen more people than ever before pulling their kids out of public school and homeschooling them. Awakenings are happening, we are supporting each other as it should be. ❤️ #idonotconsent #donotcomply

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We can tell a similar story. Our eldest son was brain damaged by the MMR vaccine 35 years ago.

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Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

What's both refreshing and true sounding is that Antony Sutton and his work is implying to me: treat great events in history as if they're crime scenes -- and work largely from that angle. In that way, a truer picture of what happened gets put together

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Wow. Exactly.

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Brilliant

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Except that his work is nonsense. The West didn't need to sabotage the Russian economy because it was already falling apart since 1905 with its humiliating military defeat to Japan. He claims Wilson directly helped the Bolsheviks, but his own sources merely say that Wilson advocated for easier passage of Russian Jews *generally,* in 1911 before the Bolsheviks were in power. His State Department helped some non-Bolshevik socialists in early 1917 because the Allied Russian government was *already* run by non-Bolshevik socialists in February 1917 (and Trotsky didn't join the Bolsheviks until July).

There's been plenty of deep research since Sutton's time demonstrating that the few pro-Bolshevik gestures made were done as cover for the secret anti-communist operations that started as early as December 1917, but only became overt over a year later. There's an entire book, 'America's Secret War Against Bolshevism 1917-1920' written about this -

https://books.google.com/books?id=RUHn9nCC9EoC&vq=knox&source=gbs_navlinks_s

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Thank you. All true, and yes, Sutton was brilliant. Dr. Mercola recently published a piece on Mike Rivero's excellent 'All Wars Are Bankers Wars' documentary from 2010. Meanwhile, a former hedge fund manager named David Web has just written an explosive book called the Great Taking, which essentially picks up where G. Edward Griffin's masterpiece 'The Creature of Jekyll Island' ends. It shows in exquisite detail how the legislative framework has been gradually put in place in stealth over the past 60 years to make the so-called Great Reset a reality. I wrote about both of these things in more detail here:

https://powerversuspeople.substack.com/p/the-world-the-way-it-actually-is

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Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Katherine Watts research has proved the same thing. Drip, drip, drip...slow progression to where we are today...and all "legal" but not lawful.

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Yes, Katherine Watt is simply amazing. In terms of legislative corruption and Constitutional demise, her work helped me see the health tyranny side of it. David Web helped me understand the banking and looming property seizure side of things, which touches more closely on the "You will own nothing and (NOT be) happy" mantra of the WEF and their 'Great Reset'. Prior to that, I could not quite get my head around how it might actually be pulled off. Now, I think I do. Their respective work is very complementary. Definitely recommend Web's book.

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Great post on your substack. Good to see you found fakeologist--I found him years ago when he first woke up after watching September Clues, the 9/11 truther documentary that looks at the media fakery angle. Yes, Mike Rivero's All Wars Are Bankers Wars is a must watch, as well as Bill Still's The Money Masters.

Also, The Great Taking is an extremely important book, as the author outlines how the banking cartel plans on LEGALLY taking all bank deposits and securities as collateral on the $2 quadrillion derivatives ticking time bomb, which explains how they will get us to 2030 and we will own nothing. There are lots of financial youtube channels talking about it--IMO the best was Mike from the Parallel Systems youtube channel. Here's an article on The Great Taking by Ellen Brown, attorney and author of Web of Debt: https://ellenbrown.com/2023/10/03/the-great-taking-how-they-plan-to-own-it-all/

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Thanks for stopping by, Sandra, and for your comment here, as well as the Ellen Brown link. Much appreciated.

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Hello Dave Payette and readers: The Mike Rivero documentary was very well done, as well as G. Edward's "Creature of Jekyll Island". The creatures of the corporate State are still thriving. Perhaps readers will find interest in this excellent expose’ regarding how all civilian assets and properties are held in blind *Trusts*. >>> The Lawyers' Secret Oath? >>> U.S. INC. GOES TO GENEVA 1930's >>> https://www.docdroid.net/S8655K1/thelawyerssecretoath-doc

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At this point, does it continue to make any sense at all to believe a single "official" bit of what we got fed to us re the Third Reich -- as but one relatively recent example? As with most things, I'll bet there's just enough truth mixed into what could be complete fabrication to make it sound legit while providing the basis to remake the world into the horror show that it is today. At least, that's what I've begun suspecting...

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Yes, after I woke up to 9/11 I started questioning everything, including all the past wars. And it seems like everything we've been taught as history is just agreed upon lies and propaganda. I've been listening to the audiobook The Myth of German Villainy, which goes over WW1 and WW2, as well as the Bolshevik Revolution and it seems to fit what I've read elsewhere and it fits with Benjamin Freedman's 1961 speech. I've also started to read this book (the author is Jewish from a long line of rabbis) https://ia804608.us.archive.org/2/items/tell-the-truth-shame-the-devilgerard-menuhin/Tell%20the%20Truth%20and%20Shame%20the%20Devil%20%28pdf%29.pdf

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I've seen that Freedman speech; it's quite something, and I've got that book in the growing pile that I must read...

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Yes, Ben Freedman blew me away when I first heard his speech years ago. So much history has been hidden from us.

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I hear you Sandra. I don’t know the answers regarding Germany, but I do notice a pattern for at least the last hundred years of dehumanizing propoganda unleashed on any enemies. The Germans were “Krauts”, Koreans and Vietnamese were “Gooks” or “Slants”; Russians were humorless automatons who never smiled and just slogged through life; Palestinians are “animals”. When done successfully it insures that the masses will give no thought to whether the enemy deserves any empathy. Just kill ‘em all, like you were spraying Raid on an ant colony.

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Yes, dehumanizing propaganda/atrocity propaganda. That's what they use to get the masses eager for war. I listened to a Scott Ritter video the other day and he noted that stories we are getting from Israel of beheadings, rapes, brutality to babies are what they used to get the people ready for war before WW1. Then the bankers stay home and increase their wealth and power exponentially while the masses slaughter each other. Then the bankers get together after the war and divide up the spoils and set things up for the next war. It's all so diabolically evil and sickening. I can't believe this is what our world has come to.

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The theme of constant wars to feed the military industrial complex has a ring of truth. This practice has to be explored, probed and shared until it is well understood by all. Let the evidence guide us to the truth.

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the other thing the perpetual wars do is to reduce the quality of the population. There have been these wars of choice for at least a couple hundred years. We can look at the draft policies used in US as an example. The fittest physical and mental specimens, who are of greatest value to their own communities, are selected for the slaughter. The opposite of eugenics.

Much of what is called military aid or budgets are just direct transfers to executives and politicians; see Sam Bankman-Fried and the Ukraine work-around. Where it gets filtered through the arms manufacturers, it also supports a large cadre of executives and politicians. There appears to be no top end to the prices paid for military equipment. It fits Thatcher's quip about socialism working until you run out of other people's money; this is socialism for the arms corporations. The fully incestuous bankers, executive class, politicians, and MIC will keep at it until they run out of taxpayer money. They ran out a while back, and are just monetizing the debts, paying interest with more debt products. Now they will start a world war to disguise the fact we must transition to a new monetary system, as they completely hollowed out the old one with their thievery for wars of choice and conquest. But do expect them to leave a pile of debt for the new system to handle, it is what they have always done.

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This would make the overarching Conspiracy parasitic, rather than transformative. I.e., what the Cabal directing the Conspiracy have in mind is not some transformation of the West into a new world order, but just a continuation of parasitism exploiting corruption and here and there fomenting just enough disorder to keep the money train chugging.

A parasitic Conspiracy would have no interest in transforming the West, since they've already figured out ways to milk the system as is. Sure, they may do various things to tweak the system to keep it lucrative, but that's all.

A transformative Conspiracy on the other hand is motivated by more than mere power and greed, but by some deformed ideological vision that in their minds requires the subversion and dismantling of the West in order to replace it with their utopian vision. Along the way, as they consolidate their power to this end, they may resemble the parasitic form of Conspiracy, but that's only an intermediate stage leading to the end game.

Our conspiracy theory factors this in and asks whether any given behavior we impute to the Cabal reflects the one form or the other.

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Also constant war to keep the global debt-based fiat ponzi scheme financial system from collapsing. Before the "surprise attack" financial experts were saying it looked like we were headed for collapse, but the new war and war spending keeps the system propped up for a bit longer (as Gerald Celente says, when all else fails they bring you to war)--I think the central banking cartel that rules the world deliberately keeps people/nations divided so they can easily kick off a war any time they need to.

Here's what financial expert Greg Mannarino says:

Liquidity Crisis? No Problem, Just Start Another War!

https://gregorymannarino.substack.com/p/liquidity-crisis-no-problem-just

"To keep the world financial system from locking up, an ever-increasing flow of debt MUST be pumped into it… and it cannot ever stop. Debt must be borrowed into the system constantly, and ever more reasons to continue this mechanism MUST be instituted to allow the system to function.

No other endeavor on Earth generates more cash flow into the system in terms of borrowed dollars than WAR, and what better than a Middle East war to keep the price of crude high.

I have warned everyone who has followed my work FOR YEARS that they will do ANYTHING to keep new debt flowing into the system, and to be ready for anything. The escalation and propagation of war, and the start of new wars allows at least temporarily, more liquidity to be pumped into the system. Make no mistake, just as I said when the Russia/Ukraine war started- this is just the beginning."

More on the liquidity problem he's referencing here:

https://gregorymannarino.substack.com/p/maximum-saturation

For many years now, I have warned that at one point a “maximum saturation” moment would eventually occur in the financial system- it’s already started. A maximum saturation condition triggers a rapid meltdown of the financial system.

A maximum saturation situation occurs when the system becomes unable to support any more debt and then starts to break down. The current central bank run debt-based system demands that an ever-increasing amount of debt is constantly, and more importantly exponentially, added to the system to function. In other words, the debt must expand by ever increasing multiples, and it cannot ever stop- until a maximum saturation is achieved, then the system stops itself.

The end result of a “critical mass” or “maximum saturation” condition is a complete meltdown of the entire worldwide financial system, and there is no solution.

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When I was young I thought that communism meant having an egalitarian, classless society, where everyone had what they truly needed and could truly be themselves --- the last paragraph of the post actually aligns with the idea I had of "communism".

Some people still have ideas like this, and call it communism. In some ways, language really limits us here, because someone may sincerely have this idea when they use of the word "communism", but of course, all of the actual movements and governments that have called themselves "communist" in no way even approached this, just the opposite. I personally would never use the word "communism" for this reason, because the associations are just too negative with that word.

The thing for me is to try to understand what the person in question really means and wants, and there are so many ways we can all get confused, especially when we use broad terms like "communism" that historically have been used in so many ways and applied to so many things. I imagine that some normal people supported Lenin/Bolsheviks because they believed his ideas would make a good outcome, but obviously didn't know that Lenin was the puppet of international finance, so he probably couldn't have done those things, even if he had really wanted to (...I think he actually just wanted all the power for himself.)

For example, one of my favorite writers on Substack is Rhyd Wildermuth (rhyd.substack.com). He calls himself an "autonomous Marxist"...I'm not exactly sure what that means. He is very into "theory", which I am not, and he means something very specific by this. I know some people may just not even try because he calls himself a "Marxist", but when I read his work and try to feel into him as a human being, I think that he is a sincere human being, honestly trying to make the world a better place, which is my main concern.

One of my favorite quotes:

"Under capitalism, man exploits man.

Under communism, it's just the opposite."

- John Kenneth Galbraith,

epigraph to Chapter 16, "Transition to Gift Economy", in the book "Sacred Economics", by Charles Eisenstein.

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I am aware if what you are describing. The tendency toward goodness of a sort in those who self identify as Marxists. I use "communism" usually with other words attached as qualifiers. Mark Crispin Miller takes the position that I ought not use it as I don't seem to understand its resonances in this country, US. McCarthyism, so called. Give me a month on a small island and I will possibly come back with a whole new take on "McCarthyism" true architects. We see them now.

Yet Marxists really OWE it to the world to allow the world to grieve and process the history of whatever we are calling it. And generally speaking, they prioritize instead their feelings about other people's grief and awareness. They must have respect around words. "Communism" We must choose all the right words, so they can have a deconstruction of whatever we want to call it on their terms, not ours.

This frustrates me.

What an amazing Galbraith quote. Thank you.

I want to say that I feel nobody should refer to themselves as anything/any stripe of "Marxist," without accepting that it traumatizes people just as for example MCM says my use of "communism" traumatizes Americans who lived through the OP we call McCarthyism. "Op" does not mean "it didn't happen." It means it was planned and installed by guess who. The Op Factory.

But still, I will read Rhyd.

we are in a sense all correct. But some people get way more attention and air time. What would Rhyd say about the Marx, Engels, Trotsky genocide quotes I published yesterday, do you think?

These are the same people who planned and launched Covid.

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Just as I wouldn't use the word "communism", I also wouldn't use the word "Marxist" for the same reason. As you said, the word itself can traumatize people; there is so much charge around these words that they just muddy the waters and make everything more confusing, rather than more understandable.

(Language is so interesting...it is so complex and can so easily unite, divide, or confuse us. I've seen instances where two people are debating: to my sense, they agree, but they think they disagree, because of the way they use words, the way they express themselves.)

I don't think that Rhyd would defend those quotes in any way.

Marx did a few things; he obviously had his own personal opinions, some of which, as you shared, were abominable.

One major thing he did was give an analysis of capitalism. I think that when Rhyd says he is a "Marxist", he means that he is substantially in agreement with the analysis Marx made of capitalism. Of course, there is the analysis, and then the "what should we do about it?" based on that analysis. I think the analysis has many true and useful things...but the "what should we do about it?", obviously not so much.

But I honestly don't think Rhyd is supporting, or would ever support, killing anybody. The whole communist idea was "kill all the owners and then we'll be free"...but this obviously doesn't work, and I highly doubt he would advocate for any such thing.

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Nov 8, 2023·edited Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Your point about language? Very well taken. That is why I have tried to develop the habit of asking people to define their terms so I can better understand what they're driving at. Slows things down, maybe it's annoying, but it can lead to just the scenario you describe -- that people are closer to agreeing than they think...

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It's reasonable to assume the Ism of McCarthyism was an OP whose main goal was to obfuscate the real danger of Communist infiltration into the US; and one of their juicy targets was Joe McCarthy himself, whom they demonized so successfully, most Conservatives today still are afraid of catching his cooties and therefore virtue-signal about how bad he was (as RFK Jr. recently implied).

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Nov 23, 2023·edited Nov 23, 2023

Hello Celia Farber: Perhaps you are aware that nearly all pre-monotheistic societies practiced pure communism quite successfully. The majority of these societies were sexually egalitarian, and produce of the hunt or agricultural endeavor was a shared commodity. The erection of city/states and walled cities began nearly 6,000 years ago. Egalitarian matriarchal based cultures were gradually superseded by patriarchal dictate... Marija Gimbutas's Kurgan hypothesis has been refuted many times, yet introduces the reader to the mechanisms of invasion of one culture unto another. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_hypothesis

More recent analyses are focused on the overlay of nomadic culture on previously agrarian societies of the Middle-East. > The Yamnaya culture. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture

It has not gone very well...

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Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

I'd extend your concept to every Abrahamic religion. Shall we immerse in a series of Substacks documenting all those "Christians", historically and contemporary (Nikki Haley, Lindsay Graham, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, etc.) acting in the name of "Christ?" All because a guy spoke NOT to promote Marxism (or Bolshevism, or Communism), but to talk about what's happening in Gaza?

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It might be helpful to think of collectivism versus individualism, following the thinking of F.A. Hayek and Carl Popper.

Collectivism means that we're all pulling together toward a greater good, and of course someone has to decide what that greater good is. Who gets to decide? Some authority. The CDC? The WHO?

As Ayn Rand stated, the essence of totalitarianism is fixation on one single idea of what that greater good was, to the exclusion of other considerations. Thus Nazism was fixated on purity of the race (eugenics) and Stalinism on the rise of the proletariat, and the Covid police state was (is?) fixated on a deceptive 'stay safe.' This fixation is what CO2 disaster is all about: it's not real but it means that the authorities have to determine the best path for us and fix things for us, and the collective has to serve that greater good. So how we view the greater good really separates the collectivist from the individualist.

The individualist will say that our greatest good is that we all decide for ourselves what our own greatest good is, with respect and consideration for others.

What's happening now is that because of technology, reality can be fabricated to nudge people into collectivist thinking, so they'll do the "necessary" thing. Disasters are literally fabricated. Isn't that what Covid was all about: a fabricated reality so that we'd all pull together for the (supposed) greater good of staying safe?

Now all the warmongers are in charge and of course everything to them is "necessary" and we're supposed to go along and accept it. We, the people, would prefer that the peacemakers were in charge.

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Nov 8, 2023·edited Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Dr. Sutton's work got him shut down at the Hoover Institute which simply shows he was over the target! Have you read Israelis' Five Trillion Dollar Secret by Col. Curtis B. Dall, FDR's Son-in-law?

William Engdahl is a great resource too. http://www.williamengdahl.com/

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It all starts with the creation of tax exempt "foundations"

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Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

All wars are bankers' wars.

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Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Non profits have replaced "voluntary associations" in our culture. Notice how that worked in Lahuina. Friends, neighbors are not allowed to help.

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I think we need to learn from what they did on Maui, and keep our assistance to others less well advertised or centralized. They have been doing that part of it a long time too. After Hurricane Katrina, there were flotillas of local citizens that went into flooded areas to rescue people, and were doing the job the US was not doing. They were blockaded by the US Coast Guard from performing further assistance.

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https://www.corbettreport.com/burnbackbetter/

Burn Back Better?

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Great interviewQ

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Whooops! That Q should be an exclamation mark!

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I find that when people delegate their charitable impulses to government and non profits, the deeper relational bonds that make neighborhoods and communities are circumvented and not developed. Deprived of direct experiences with ones less fortunate neighbors one does not develop the mental nuances to have truly informed opinions about social ills. Its lazy to talk the talk without having ever even walked the walk. Its lazy to delgate charity and to not commit it personally.

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The Bolsheviks murdered millions in the Soviet Union to usher in Communism. See The Holodomor.

The current slate of Communism/Globalism proponents use Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars as revealed by William Milton Cooper in Behold A Pale Horse.

Have you had your vaccine/booster today?

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I love this quote because, at least in America , it gets it so wrong: "corporate socialism,” planned by the big corporations.[11]Sutton concluded that it was all part of the economic power elites' “long-range program of nurturing collectivism”[8] and fostering “corporate socialism” in order to ensure “monopoly acquisition of wealth” because it “would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market.”[12][third-party source needed]." In fact this is an inversion of reality. The American working class had the highest standards of living in the post-war Great Prosperity years from the 1950s into the 1970s. Upward mobility was unprecedented. A blue collar worker with a high school education could support a wife and family and own a home on one income (in most cities today it takes two average incomes to rent an apartment). The post-war economic environment, an extension of the highly interventionist New Deal order, saw extremely high top-end tax rates, capital gains tax rates, corporate tax rates, and government regulation, all of which effectively checked the inevitable tendency of unchecked capitalism to consolidate wealth into fewer and fewer hands over time. By 1971 (which you can see from all of the handy economic indicators if you google the web site WTF Happened in 1971) average working Americans had the highest standards of living in known history and the first thriving middle class. 1971 was the apex of these economic trends and the nadir of corporate, elite power. The infamous Powell Memo, by Chief SCOTUS Lewis Powell, departing from Bretton-Wiods, and the election of Ronald Reagan, which gave rise of economic neoliberalism - his so-called "trickle down," free-market economics -!changed all of that. Free market neoliberalism reversed the New Deal order by dramatically gutting top-end tax rates, capital gains tax rates, and the ensuing spree of deregulation saw a boom time for corporate earnings and elite financial gain. Free markets led to globalisation because that is the ultimate in free markets. No barriers to trade. Workers in America, now unprotected by NAFTA, has to compete with cheaper labor in Mexico or eventually overseas. Corporations, to increase their profit and lower their costs and be more competitive, moved production overseas. This, folks, is what happens with unrestrained capitalism, ironically just as the much maligned Karl Marx predicted when he said that over time capital (and power) get consolidated into fewer and fewer hands. This is the story of what's happened since the Reagan years, and since our government has been captured by economic elites - that's what happens when you deregulate everything - you get corporate capture - you end up with the neo-feudal global plutocracy that we have today. Free market capitalism works just like Darwinism: over time bigger and bigger fish eat all the little fish. The independent bookstores get reamed by Borders and Barnes & Noble; they get put out of business by Amazon. Wealth and power become consolidated in every arena. The irony is that unrestrained capitalism inevitably becomes monopolistic and literally fascist, if we use the definition of corporate capture of the state. When so-called conservatives blame everything on "communism" today they are doing it out of ignorance or disingenuousness. There is not anything "communist" about it. We are at the apex of 4 decades of neoliberal economics and this is what we got. When we had intense government regulation and intervention and appropriate taxation in the Great Prosperity years we had the highest standards of living in history and little wealth disparity, which included a two-tern Republican Eisenhower administration where the top end tax rate was 90%. People today are spectacularly ignorant of our economic, social and political history. It was the political left in the 1930s to 1970s through the labor movement and various left economic populist movements that gave us the middle class. Did you think that came from the right, which at the time was the political orientation of CEOs, bankers and the financial elite? You probably also don't grasp that the so-called "communism" of today's left, seen in so-called woke identity politics, was also the result of financial elites intentional disrupting and diverting the left's economic justice-based activism into postmodernism and "social justice" which came at the same time that the New Deal economic order was being dismantled through neoliberalism. The twin hydras of economic neoliberalism and postmodern "social justice" - initiated by the CIA as a way to disrupt the economic justice of the 60s left - were the two wrecking balls that the elites unleashed to get us to where we are at today. So let's stop with the "communism" nonsense. You end up with BlackRock, Vanguard, "CNN brought to you by Pfizer," and government and media capture by unrestrained capitalism. That's the difference between 1963 and 2023.

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Maybe everything is true.

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save a little criticism for JFK, who was the first one to start reducing the upper tax rates. His error was in loathing the CIA (cia forerunner oss entirely masonic), but he had reason to do so. He was manipulated by them over not sending aircover during the Bay of Pigs. They lied to him and had their own agenda; that was where the desire to "smash them into a thousand pieces" came from. He intended to do it, so they took him out first.

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Trotsky's name was Bronstein.

Lenin was Ulianov.

Stalin was Dsugashvili.

From "The Iron Curtain Over America"

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right.

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they practiced atheism, which was one of the reasons Hitler hated them. That, and the nascent communist revolution Hitler witnessed firsthand in Germany, that was put down quickly by federal forces.

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I don't think it was the 'atheism'...

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Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Really useful information that we MUST all educate ourselves on and if you are pretty educated already, then educate more! Thanks for the resources Celia.

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Nov 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Hmmm.... the voluntary, local rule, decentralized idea sounds like something without humans present. :) Anyone know of a current city where this is working?

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Sadie: it's largely like that here in Cambodia. Of course, in the aftermath of Polpot there are few theorists ((())) so it all hangs together. But don't worry! The Chinese have built a modern airport near Angkor Wat! So something's going to happen.

ShiYen

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It's a little strange... I don't think about it in my day by day - just when I scroll through substack/zerohedge/etc.... but it is a bit of a strange thing to wonder about -- I hear China is selling off things in order to raise US$ for their debts...and there was a ransomware attack on one of their banks that disrupted the US Treasury mkt... which day will it be that we awake to the financial crash and we have only what we have at that moment in our homes.... wild ride.

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Thank You Celia. The foundational types of elite-manipulation of human societies seem obvious once they are seen, but shocking and impossible to see for most people.

;-(

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