Celia! Wow...I am so honored and humbled by your kind words. Thanks for reading and sharing and re-sounding the alarm. My article is seven years old and I'd make some edits I wrote it today but the foundational premise stands and I'm so grateful that you're bringing it to new eyes and ears. Thank you again... 🙂
By 2015, all the high-profile sites that once published me had ditched me so this article never really reached that any readers. And yes indeed, so many "friends" went into full attack mode.
Seven is a - v e r y - important cycle. Look for things of 2015 to be manifesting/bearing fruit in 2022, you'll see a definite pattern, case-in-point, right here. This is one of the most sacred, mystical numbers, 7, and it reminds us that 'the occult' is what is hidden, not a value-judgement, and I am happy to help in any of these areas if you Mickey or Celia have questions that, it turns out, I can help with - if you find something you might want a spiritual angle on, I'm happy to help if you keep this in mind! ^^
Yes Seven is a mystical number...I was born on the 7th day of the month and my birthdate adds up to 7. Won’t 2023 add up to a 7 year? Since we are just completing a 6 year?
Thank you so much for your work on this. I am just now doing a deep-dive on the whole rock'n'roll 'scene' and culture and how manufactured it was. Your work is so valuable!
They are soooo grosss. How about Mick Jagger, who raped teens like McKenzie Phillips and then also Pete Townshend, accused pedo? I think he wriggled out of it though. Steven Tyler has always truly given me the heebie jeebies. So did Mick Jagger, when I was a teen. Saw him on SNL and felt repulsed. I thought there was something wrong with me, that I didn't think these guys were 'sexy.' I guess my radar system was working just fine.
I'm thoroughly convinced that no one gets near power, fame, or money, without having some hideous skeletons in the closet that they can be blackmailed for. I may occasionally be wrong, but I will be right far more often.
The history of art, literature and music is filled with appalling corrupted assholes and mental cripples of every description. It is usually up to the generations following if they decide the art is good enough to ignore the assholery. Sometimes it is; sometimes it isn't, and individuals can differ on this issue. One of the most talented British children's authors, William Mayne, liked little girls. When this was discovered he was dropped like boiling acid by everyone who mattered, but I suspect his books will survive anyway in some future time where his life story is unknown by most. In another 50 years Ginsberg will be entirely forgotten--the literary genius was pitifully weak from the starting gate, no matter his sexual proclivities. Artists tend to be....outside the normal bounds of behavior....in various ways. All we can do is try to shine a light on that while they are alive, and then try to let the art speak for itself after they are dead.
For example, I can't get past the assholery of Richard Wagner. To me his music will always be repugnant because of who he was. But I know many people who disagree. Each person needs to decide if an individual's lack of morality trumps what they achieved in art. I know an academic who hates Handel because he wrote a heroic piece celebrating the English victory at Culloden. I have argued in vain that British newspapers portrayed the Scots as savages and monkeys deserving of destruction, and that Handel could not possibly have known what butchery the English were perpetrating up north, but my friend will not hear it. He says, "He should have known." To me that's going a little far with the ethics. Christine commenting below me would probably be more on the side of my friend, but then--we'd have very little art, literature or music left.
My struggle is Woody Allen movies. I find him super repulsive, but I grew up reading his books and watching his movies. I guess it's not much of a struggle now, as I just stopped watching his movies, but at first it was.
IMO each of us patronizing, not speaking up or accepting in any way the art or other talent and saying it’s separate from them perpetuates it. Everyone shuns them and it does 2 things: cuts some of their income and reveals pedos and their sympathizers who are just as bad.
Yes! I saw the Balenciaga Ad, I went to their FB page and exposed it. It is absolutely detestable how 'brands and their designers' are catering to Pedos!
As someone who owns the finest true 1st edition of Naked Lunch and all of WSB's other 1st ed Olympia Press works, as well as 2 of his unobtanium archives signed by him and Gysin, I too have a difficult time with his "dirty old man" proclivities.
He accidentally killed his wife when drunk and high playing William Tell. He frequently admitted that he was so haunted by this murder that it drove him to start writing again. He was a terrible father too, and admitted as much.
The schism for me is that while there is an awful, depraved and sick side to WSB there are other sides of him that predicted so much of what we are going through now that I just can't discount the worth of his work. I can both despise him and admire him simultaneously.
A very complex visionary with many ugly sides.
I even quoted WSB two days ago in the following article:
He was possessed by demons. He wasn't talented. These sexually deviant freaks were used by the "intelligence" community as part of a scheme to destabilize society. I loathe Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism, and her novels, while well written, are forced vehicles for her radically self-centered idiocy, but her Romantic Manifesto is brilliant, and worth reading if you want true insight into art.
His writing is difficult, but it exposed much and predicted much. He even coined terms like Heavy Metal, Blade Runner and the band Steely Dan is a sick device in one of his works.
He is very problematic on many levels, and there are many scenes of violent pedophilia in his works, especially with alien-like creatures called Mugwumps.
Read another way, WSB predicted everything that is happening now, whether he fantasized about it transpiring in some instances and warning in others.
Anyhow, I was incredibly surprised that any of the substacks I follow would ever mention WSB.
Burroughs is just straight up literary porn. Not even a good writer. A sickening human being. Trust me, Celia, you didn't miss anything. I tried to read him many years ago, but it was such garbage
Agree. Tried to read Naked Lunch, thought it was garbage. My boyfriend at the time and his friends really liked it though. But I'm sure that was because of the shock factor, and the drug culture that promised such a heady life.
Consider also then De Sade, perhaps Pasolini? Burroughs said ‘you have to be in hell to see heaven’ He is writing of, and from his life, in America, as experienced. Burroughs Adding Machines family money, not Burroughs pharm.
How controllable will they be once their perversions are accepted in culture? That's why the push. I suppose they'll have to change up what they blackmail people about once it goes mainstream.
Being a voracious reader of fiction, poetry, and non-fiction, I tried reading Bukowski, Burroughs, Hunter S. Thompson, and Ginsburg but they were all too boring, poor at their craft, and had almost nothing insightful to say so I could never get more than a few paragraphs or lines of poetry into their idiotic, transparently forced radical wannabe spew. They're the "literary" equivalent of Bill Ayers, son of a wealthy CEO, who fancied himself a radical terrorist. I didn't realize at the time they were sexual deviants. Burroughs is from the Burroughs Machine family not the drug pushers from England. Figures he would have wanted to work for OSS, the forerunner of the Criminally Insane Asswipes. Ginsburg is typical of the hugely disproportionate sexual deviancy, not to mention inbreeding, found in the ugly Ashkenazim.
If anyone wants deep insight into the Ashkenazim internal political war raging behind the scenes between the Trump, and DeSantis camps, and a history of what happened to Trump, this is a fascinating, brilliant discussion.
I am so happy to see that my instincts were correct about this crew. I was never interested, never thought they were brilliant, and for a long time I thought it was because I wasn't 'getting it.' Apparently, there was nothing to get. More of the emperor's new clothes kinda stuff.
I fell for the hype about these degenerates so I decided to read their work. It was immediately apparent they were phony wannabes with no original thoughts, no talent, and at the time I wondered why anyone would waste time in their trash when their is so much great writing to read.
Another creep is Hunter S. Thompson. But that's another story. These people are the absolute epitome of selfishness
I just cant feel sorry that these unrepentant lgbtqP(for pedophile)ia2s+ are meeting post Death the wrath of Righteous God. Consequences for evil actions Exquisite justice will be meted out
Have you heard of MoeFactz w/ Adam Curry? Lots in that about 'weaponized word spells' and other angles related to this theme, especially in recent episodes. I think you'll get a lot out of it if you give a listen from time to time, Celia. Thank you for your courage! ^^
I'm enjoying listening to you talk with Mickey Z right now (thank you to Jon Rappoport for making me aware of that!)... Thank you Celia, for all you do. I honor your efforts and I send love and life and light your way, and to all who live for the light, for the living, for Love.
Wow. On all written…wow and now reading the memoir, thank you for posting. Incredible so far and horrible. Like you said the mountain must be climbed, on fire it is.
First time I had someone try to kiss me I was completely taken off- guard he then tried to shove his tongue down my throat ..that’s what it felt like…I was horrified!!
I was an almost flat-chested 15 year old girl and was stunned that this very famous singer from a very very famous band was even slightly interested in a girl like me. I realized years later it was my innocence he was drawn to.
He even called my house the next day (I gave him my number WHY?) to ask to speak to me and my fierce Mother told him in no uncertain terms he, at 33 , was far too old for her daughter. My brothers and sisters laughed years later that Mum was probably the only woman in North America to hang up on him!!
I thought about that and more during the #Metoo movement but blamed myself for managing to get into their suite to interview them (questions like “what is your favourite colour”) innocent and stupid. Perfect combo for pedos
We were groomed by society to act that way. I ask WHY I gave some older man my number when I was 15. Because he knew exactly what to say to spark my interest, and I was naive. Thank goodness I never met him in person.
God has not given us a spirit of fear... but of power, of love and a sound mind. Thank you - both of you- for being the embodiment of that verse. Keep speaking out, keep stirring us up.
I have, in the past, agreed with him, on The People forming Good Unions, to procure their rightful interests, etc., under the poor-tutelage of an avarice-driven & authoritative employer.
But his ideations on the unvaxxed, I believe is off the rails.
Celia! Wow...I am so honored and humbled by your kind words. Thanks for reading and sharing and re-sounding the alarm. My article is seven years old and I'd make some edits I wrote it today but the foundational premise stands and I'm so grateful that you're bringing it to new eyes and ears. Thank you again... 🙂
Mickey, I have no words. How did I never see this text before? It's culture splitting. Did you lose 'friends' over it? I have so many questions.
By 2015, all the high-profile sites that once published me had ditched me so this article never really reached that any readers. And yes indeed, so many "friends" went into full attack mode.
I'm sorry. I know exactly how that feels. Well, you're a knight of journalism.
You are FAR too kind, Celia. But coming from you, any journalism-related praise is a profound compliment.
Seven is a - v e r y - important cycle. Look for things of 2015 to be manifesting/bearing fruit in 2022, you'll see a definite pattern, case-in-point, right here. This is one of the most sacred, mystical numbers, 7, and it reminds us that 'the occult' is what is hidden, not a value-judgement, and I am happy to help in any of these areas if you Mickey or Celia have questions that, it turns out, I can help with - if you find something you might want a spiritual angle on, I'm happy to help if you keep this in mind! ^^
Yes Seven is a mystical number...I was born on the 7th day of the month and my birthdate adds up to 7. Won’t 2023 add up to a 7 year? Since we are just completing a 6 year?
Thank you so much for your work on this. I am just now doing a deep-dive on the whole rock'n'roll 'scene' and culture and how manufactured it was. Your work is so valuable!
Rock n rollers are a sordid bunch. I've written about, for example, Jimmy Page and Steven Tyler.
They are soooo grosss. How about Mick Jagger, who raped teens like McKenzie Phillips and then also Pete Townshend, accused pedo? I think he wriggled out of it though. Steven Tyler has always truly given me the heebie jeebies. So did Mick Jagger, when I was a teen. Saw him on SNL and felt repulsed. I thought there was something wrong with me, that I didn't think these guys were 'sexy.' I guess my radar system was working just fine.
Spot on, Vida.
I'd have to go check my notes but there's also Ted Nugent, Chuck Berry, Bowie, etc.
I'm thoroughly convinced that no one gets near power, fame, or money, without having some hideous skeletons in the closet that they can be blackmailed for. I may occasionally be wrong, but I will be right far more often.
A society that doesn’t protect its children is doomed
This country hasn’t protected its children since January 22, 1973.
The history of art, literature and music is filled with appalling corrupted assholes and mental cripples of every description. It is usually up to the generations following if they decide the art is good enough to ignore the assholery. Sometimes it is; sometimes it isn't, and individuals can differ on this issue. One of the most talented British children's authors, William Mayne, liked little girls. When this was discovered he was dropped like boiling acid by everyone who mattered, but I suspect his books will survive anyway in some future time where his life story is unknown by most. In another 50 years Ginsberg will be entirely forgotten--the literary genius was pitifully weak from the starting gate, no matter his sexual proclivities. Artists tend to be....outside the normal bounds of behavior....in various ways. All we can do is try to shine a light on that while they are alive, and then try to let the art speak for itself after they are dead.
Hear hear! first sentence made me laugh Linda.
For example, I can't get past the assholery of Richard Wagner. To me his music will always be repugnant because of who he was. But I know many people who disagree. Each person needs to decide if an individual's lack of morality trumps what they achieved in art. I know an academic who hates Handel because he wrote a heroic piece celebrating the English victory at Culloden. I have argued in vain that British newspapers portrayed the Scots as savages and monkeys deserving of destruction, and that Handel could not possibly have known what butchery the English were perpetrating up north, but my friend will not hear it. He says, "He should have known." To me that's going a little far with the ethics. Christine commenting below me would probably be more on the side of my friend, but then--we'd have very little art, literature or music left.
My struggle is Woody Allen movies. I find him super repulsive, but I grew up reading his books and watching his movies. I guess it's not much of a struggle now, as I just stopped watching his movies, but at first it was.
IMO each of us patronizing, not speaking up or accepting in any way the art or other talent and saying it’s separate from them perpetuates it. Everyone shuns them and it does 2 things: cuts some of their income and reveals pedos and their sympathizers who are just as bad.
Caravagio is one of the most fascinating painters in history both for his genius, and his demons.
Yes! I saw the Balenciaga Ad, I went to their FB page and exposed it. It is absolutely detestable how 'brands and their designers' are catering to Pedos!
Compelling and unexpected read.
As someone who owns the finest true 1st edition of Naked Lunch and all of WSB's other 1st ed Olympia Press works, as well as 2 of his unobtanium archives signed by him and Gysin, I too have a difficult time with his "dirty old man" proclivities.
He accidentally killed his wife when drunk and high playing William Tell. He frequently admitted that he was so haunted by this murder that it drove him to start writing again. He was a terrible father too, and admitted as much.
The schism for me is that while there is an awful, depraved and sick side to WSB there are other sides of him that predicted so much of what we are going through now that I just can't discount the worth of his work. I can both despise him and admire him simultaneously.
A very complex visionary with many ugly sides.
I even quoted WSB two days ago in the following article:
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/china-just-announced-a-new-social
He was possessed by demons. He wasn't talented. These sexually deviant freaks were used by the "intelligence" community as part of a scheme to destabilize society. I loathe Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism, and her novels, while well written, are forced vehicles for her radically self-centered idiocy, but her Romantic Manifesto is brilliant, and worth reading if you want true insight into art.
I see your point. I have honestly never really read him.
His writing is difficult, but it exposed much and predicted much. He even coined terms like Heavy Metal, Blade Runner and the band Steely Dan is a sick device in one of his works.
He is very problematic on many levels, and there are many scenes of violent pedophilia in his works, especially with alien-like creatures called Mugwumps.
Read another way, WSB predicted everything that is happening now, whether he fantasized about it transpiring in some instances and warning in others.
Anyhow, I was incredibly surprised that any of the substacks I follow would ever mention WSB.
Burroughs is just straight up literary porn. Not even a good writer. A sickening human being. Trust me, Celia, you didn't miss anything. I tried to read him many years ago, but it was such garbage
Agree. Tried to read Naked Lunch, thought it was garbage. My boyfriend at the time and his friends really liked it though. But I'm sure that was because of the shock factor, and the drug culture that promised such a heady life.
Consider also then De Sade, perhaps Pasolini? Burroughs said ‘you have to be in hell to see heaven’ He is writing of, and from his life, in America, as experienced. Burroughs Adding Machines family money, not Burroughs pharm.
Really, you're tattling? LOL.
Our overlords prefer controllable pedophile degenerates.
How controllable will they be once their perversions are accepted in culture? That's why the push. I suppose they'll have to change up what they blackmail people about once it goes mainstream.
Being a voracious reader of fiction, poetry, and non-fiction, I tried reading Bukowski, Burroughs, Hunter S. Thompson, and Ginsburg but they were all too boring, poor at their craft, and had almost nothing insightful to say so I could never get more than a few paragraphs or lines of poetry into their idiotic, transparently forced radical wannabe spew. They're the "literary" equivalent of Bill Ayers, son of a wealthy CEO, who fancied himself a radical terrorist. I didn't realize at the time they were sexual deviants. Burroughs is from the Burroughs Machine family not the drug pushers from England. Figures he would have wanted to work for OSS, the forerunner of the Criminally Insane Asswipes. Ginsburg is typical of the hugely disproportionate sexual deviancy, not to mention inbreeding, found in the ugly Ashkenazim.
If anyone wants deep insight into the Ashkenazim internal political war raging behind the scenes between the Trump, and DeSantis camps, and a history of what happened to Trump, this is a fascinating, brilliant discussion.
https://odysee.com/@RealRedElephants:d/The-TRUTH-About-Ron-DeSantis-and-His-Eerie-Connections-to-Paul-Singer-and-Others:a?r=3wm94ymABxXw47dA7R4BxZpdLSQVCFMm
I am so happy to see that my instincts were correct about this crew. I was never interested, never thought they were brilliant, and for a long time I thought it was because I wasn't 'getting it.' Apparently, there was nothing to get. More of the emperor's new clothes kinda stuff.
I fell for the hype about these degenerates so I decided to read their work. It was immediately apparent they were phony wannabes with no original thoughts, no talent, and at the time I wondered why anyone would waste time in their trash when their is so much great writing to read.
Same. I was a voracious reader, and I remember wondering why I'd waste my time on that tripe.
Another creep is Hunter S. Thompson. But that's another story. These people are the absolute epitome of selfishness
I just cant feel sorry that these unrepentant lgbtqP(for pedophile)ia2s+ are meeting post Death the wrath of Righteous God. Consequences for evil actions Exquisite justice will be meted out
Have you heard of MoeFactz w/ Adam Curry? Lots in that about 'weaponized word spells' and other angles related to this theme, especially in recent episodes. I think you'll get a lot out of it if you give a listen from time to time, Celia. Thank you for your courage! ^^
no. how would I find that? I can't ever find things...
You can download a podcast app, and use that to download podcasts to the app.
Here is a direct link to Moe's site: http://www.moefactz.com/
I'm enjoying listening to you talk with Mickey Z right now (thank you to Jon Rappoport for making me aware of that!)... Thank you Celia, for all you do. I honor your efforts and I send love and life and light your way, and to all who live for the light, for the living, for Love.
Where is this talk, please? I don't find it when searching Rappoport's site.
The Brave search engine will take you where you need to go.
🌐 Moe Factz with Adam Curry | Podcast on Podbay
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"I was a goldfish, swallowing programming flakes on the water surface." 👍
please good god save us all from evil ... even if we dont want to be saved
Wow. On all written…wow and now reading the memoir, thank you for posting. Incredible so far and horrible. Like you said the mountain must be climbed, on fire it is.
First time I had someone try to kiss me I was completely taken off- guard he then tried to shove his tongue down my throat ..that’s what it felt like…I was horrified!!
I was an almost flat-chested 15 year old girl and was stunned that this very famous singer from a very very famous band was even slightly interested in a girl like me. I realized years later it was my innocence he was drawn to.
He even called my house the next day (I gave him my number WHY?) to ask to speak to me and my fierce Mother told him in no uncertain terms he, at 33 , was far too old for her daughter. My brothers and sisters laughed years later that Mum was probably the only woman in North America to hang up on him!!
I thought about that and more during the #Metoo movement but blamed myself for managing to get into their suite to interview them (questions like “what is your favourite colour”) innocent and stupid. Perfect combo for pedos
Sickening
We were groomed by society to act that way. I ask WHY I gave some older man my number when I was 15. Because he knew exactly what to say to spark my interest, and I was naive. Thank goodness I never met him in person.
God has not given us a spirit of fear... but of power, of love and a sound mind. Thank you - both of you- for being the embodiment of that verse. Keep speaking out, keep stirring us up.
Celia,
I completely agree with Your Insights into Noam.
I have, in the past, agreed with him, on The People forming Good Unions, to procure their rightful interests, etc., under the poor-tutelage of an avarice-driven & authoritative employer.
But his ideations on the unvaxxed, I believe is off the rails.
You nailed it again.