I think I am an outlier on this but I have always found it jarring and rude when people act like it was owed to them not to have an entirely other person post something they themselves did not like. To be intense and insulting about it. I would simply say nothing, move on.
Celia, I'm sorry for my previous remark. I trust your judgement. I started listening to the interview about 30 minutes ago. I'll continue tomorrow and make a comment.
I am an hour into the interview and it is great. Things strike people the wrong way sometimes when things are going on in their lives that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. Me.
I’ve watched the first 36 minutes so far and at a gut level don’t feel that John Kiriakou is being genuine or truthful when saying that he was shocked by what’s in the Epstein files. His background is CIA, right? Come on, John. Child trafficking, torture, MK Ultra. SRA, arms dealing, espionage, money laundering, honey traps, blackmail, eugenics. These crimes are known to have been perpetrated and explored by the CIA, politicians, globalists, and the elite for decades. For anyone in the CIA to be surprised makes zero sense to me. And then he repeats the same question over and over: What kind of judgment do these people have? That’s a ridiculous question. The perpetrators of crimes against humanity are living satanic lives of service to their dark lords in exchange for a certain level of power, money, and the ability to satiate their debauched cravings without being held accountable so asking what kind of judgment they have seems idiotic to me. He seems like just another “playa” on the world media stage. That said, I will watch a little longer to see if things improve. I don’t mean my comments to be insulting, Celia. I’m just responding sincerely with points of discussion regarding the interview content.
I have had a similar reaction to Kirakiou. Unfortunately, perhaps because there is just so much information and I have a lot of other interests, I can only remember that I distrust him and not the specific issue that created the distrust. A vexing habit of mine, but we are all like surfers fighting a relentless tide of information. But yes, to even bring up the question of judgment is another toss in the surf. I think we need to confront evil head on, and to be disingenuous about it is highly suspect.
That said, I am always glad when Celia posts something. The discussion and the thought sharpens our minds, as long as we remain discerning.
I still plan on going back to watch more of the interview. Most everything being broadcast is a mix of truths and untruths, speculations, conversations to try and connect the dots, etc. I absolutely love Celia’s reporting, writing, research, fairness, courage, and good heart. The Truth Barrier is a vital and amazing resource of world event reporting and the comments forum for the most part is stellar, too. We are all trying to figure things out together.
For me the depth of depravity and corruption of all of our systems is not new news. It’s just coming to the surface where more and more people have to allow it into their awareness and then all of us are tasked with demanding from our corrupt systems that justice is served. This means that those honest public servants who have never felt supported to go after the corrupt ones will hopefully now get their chance because the public is ready to see it and not fall for the CIA invented term, “conspiracy theory.” We will en mass have to stand up and support those in positions to legally take down the huge global conspiracies. So be that, people! Celia’s reporting helps to bring the pieces of the puzzle together so the pictures can become more clear. I’m so appreciative.
this is 3 hours long. the beginning is a bunch of mindless horsing around and back-slapping. which minutes of the 3 hours are worth watching? asking for a friend.
The Lincoln story, about a collector who was scammed, happens in the first three minutes.
I'm skipping through the "chapters". Timestamp 02:39:20 is interesting: the speculation that Bannon is a spy. Kiriakou says he is not. Julian leads the conversation. He brings up the Brock Pierce/Peter Thiel connection. Pierce is (allegedly) a pederast and a "billionaire" actor. Isn't it weird-sounding that an actor becomes a billionaire?
By the way, though not commented here, that Pierce is also linked with "the Wellness Company" saga (PCR tests, and antigen tests, Ivermectin accused of being a sterilizing agent, to name a few accusations), and the weird and confusing story about one "Tim Ballard" and Operation Underground Railroad, which was allegedly infiltrating international slave trade operations to rescue people, but researchers believe they were not doing that at all.
I didn't realize he said Bannon is not a spy. Thank you. That maybe means I should take it down. Become despondent. I am always so overly impressed when white men can discern truth at all, so it turns into excessive enthusiasm. But still, it's an interesting conversation. Maybe the phony-meter is more elusive still?
Kiriakou says it's possible but he can't imagine because Bannon should have been vetted by the FBI before becoming an advisor to President Trump. He then ties himself into a pretzel and finally acknowledges that Julian has a point, and then Julian insists, and Kiriako remains silent.
By the way, Julian comments that Bannon had 18 hours of footage of his Epstein interview. That 2 hour video was just the tip of the iceberg. No wonder Bannon avoids this Epstein saga like the plague.
It is an interesting conversation. Don't take it down, please.
Another limited hangout to distract us from looking at the system that enables this behavior and enabled Epstein to thrive? Are we being fed sacrificial lambs to assuage our rage so we don't look at the organizations and mechanisms that put Epstein and his operation in place? Who funded him, who controlled him, to whom did he send his kompromat? Aren't these the more pertinent questions, rather than who did what to whom on which plane flight or island?
Adnan Khashoggi owned a floor of a building on 51st and Fifth overlooking St. Patrick's Cathedral, which included a three-lane swimming pool. Interesting and informative conversation. Thanks for sharing.
I think I am an outlier on this but I have always found it jarring and rude when people act like it was owed to them not to have an entirely other person post something they themselves did not like. To be intense and insulting about it. I would simply say nothing, move on.
Celia, I'm sorry for my previous remark. I trust your judgement. I started listening to the interview about 30 minutes ago. I'll continue tomorrow and make a comment.
I am an hour into the interview and it is great. Things strike people the wrong way sometimes when things are going on in their lives that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. Me.
well said!
I’ve watched the first 36 minutes so far and at a gut level don’t feel that John Kiriakou is being genuine or truthful when saying that he was shocked by what’s in the Epstein files. His background is CIA, right? Come on, John. Child trafficking, torture, MK Ultra. SRA, arms dealing, espionage, money laundering, honey traps, blackmail, eugenics. These crimes are known to have been perpetrated and explored by the CIA, politicians, globalists, and the elite for decades. For anyone in the CIA to be surprised makes zero sense to me. And then he repeats the same question over and over: What kind of judgment do these people have? That’s a ridiculous question. The perpetrators of crimes against humanity are living satanic lives of service to their dark lords in exchange for a certain level of power, money, and the ability to satiate their debauched cravings without being held accountable so asking what kind of judgment they have seems idiotic to me. He seems like just another “playa” on the world media stage. That said, I will watch a little longer to see if things improve. I don’t mean my comments to be insulting, Celia. I’m just responding sincerely with points of discussion regarding the interview content.
I have had a similar reaction to Kirakiou. Unfortunately, perhaps because there is just so much information and I have a lot of other interests, I can only remember that I distrust him and not the specific issue that created the distrust. A vexing habit of mine, but we are all like surfers fighting a relentless tide of information. But yes, to even bring up the question of judgment is another toss in the surf. I think we need to confront evil head on, and to be disingenuous about it is highly suspect.
That said, I am always glad when Celia posts something. The discussion and the thought sharpens our minds, as long as we remain discerning.
I still plan on going back to watch more of the interview. Most everything being broadcast is a mix of truths and untruths, speculations, conversations to try and connect the dots, etc. I absolutely love Celia’s reporting, writing, research, fairness, courage, and good heart. The Truth Barrier is a vital and amazing resource of world event reporting and the comments forum for the most part is stellar, too. We are all trying to figure things out together.
For me the depth of depravity and corruption of all of our systems is not new news. It’s just coming to the surface where more and more people have to allow it into their awareness and then all of us are tasked with demanding from our corrupt systems that justice is served. This means that those honest public servants who have never felt supported to go after the corrupt ones will hopefully now get their chance because the public is ready to see it and not fall for the CIA invented term, “conspiracy theory.” We will en mass have to stand up and support those in positions to legally take down the huge global conspiracies. So be that, people! Celia’s reporting helps to bring the pieces of the puzzle together so the pictures can become more clear. I’m so appreciative.
this is 3 hours long. the beginning is a bunch of mindless horsing around and back-slapping. which minutes of the 3 hours are worth watching? asking for a friend.
I've got a zero patience with that stuff in the beginning too.:)) There just isn't time when juggling this much info.
The Lincoln story, about a collector who was scammed, happens in the first three minutes.
I'm skipping through the "chapters". Timestamp 02:39:20 is interesting: the speculation that Bannon is a spy. Kiriakou says he is not. Julian leads the conversation. He brings up the Brock Pierce/Peter Thiel connection. Pierce is (allegedly) a pederast and a "billionaire" actor. Isn't it weird-sounding that an actor becomes a billionaire?
By the way, though not commented here, that Pierce is also linked with "the Wellness Company" saga (PCR tests, and antigen tests, Ivermectin accused of being a sterilizing agent, to name a few accusations), and the weird and confusing story about one "Tim Ballard" and Operation Underground Railroad, which was allegedly infiltrating international slave trade operations to rescue people, but researchers believe they were not doing that at all.
I didn't realize he said Bannon is not a spy. Thank you. That maybe means I should take it down. Become despondent. I am always so overly impressed when white men can discern truth at all, so it turns into excessive enthusiasm. But still, it's an interesting conversation. Maybe the phony-meter is more elusive still?
Kiriakou says it's possible but he can't imagine because Bannon should have been vetted by the FBI before becoming an advisor to President Trump. He then ties himself into a pretzel and finally acknowledges that Julian has a point, and then Julian insists, and Kiriako remains silent.
By the way, Julian comments that Bannon had 18 hours of footage of his Epstein interview. That 2 hour video was just the tip of the iceberg. No wonder Bannon avoids this Epstein saga like the plague.
It is an interesting conversation. Don't take it down, please.
Thanks for posting this. Best analysis yet that I have seen of the whole Epstein debacle.
You lost me at 3 hours.
Another limited hangout to distract us from looking at the system that enables this behavior and enabled Epstein to thrive? Are we being fed sacrificial lambs to assuage our rage so we don't look at the organizations and mechanisms that put Epstein and his operation in place? Who funded him, who controlled him, to whom did he send his kompromat? Aren't these the more pertinent questions, rather than who did what to whom on which plane flight or island?
The mushroom commercial did it for me.
I’m enjoying so far but what is up with him advertising mushrooms of all things? Slippery slope.
Having said that, I’m enjoying hearing insights with specifics I’ve not heard before.
These days I question everyone so will never adopt anything into my belief system; rather I just store the info.
"Riveting, Funny, Revealing, Tragic, Infuriating, And Educational"
=) Reminds me of this quote:
Repulsive - Corrosive - Enticing - Confusing
Abusive - Elusive - Provoking - Amusing
Adnan Khashoggi owned a floor of a building on 51st and Fifth overlooking St. Patrick's Cathedral, which included a three-lane swimming pool. Interesting and informative conversation. Thanks for sharing.
I removed your comment by accident Christina! I was trying to remove mine.
Thank you Celia. I am 1.5 hours into the interview now and it is really good. Tomorrow for the rest.