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Dear Celia, please dig a bit more: Not explainable through money, power and corruption

“What makes a person want to control and hoard? What makes a person choose wealth or power or accumulating “stuff” over supporting each other thrive? Why would members of our own species want to destroy all life on this planet?

We aren’t dealing with your average Joe’s. They are multi-generations of inbred, disconnected, mentally unstable psychos whose entire existence has been destruction, murder and chaos.” 1

Think about it. If you were a billionaire: when is enough, enough? Is enough never enough? Instead of enjoying life with your loved ones, why would you spend most of your billions with a mafia obsessed to cull humans, risking a revolution and being jailed or executed? This is way larger than a psychonspiracy.

Why would Facebook Zuckerberg give 450 million away to rig the 2020 elections in favor of Biden and democrat governors when he didn’t get that money back from the government? Think: even if you were a billionaire fanatic of the Democratic Party, why would you spend 450 million dollars in bribery, risking jail? And 450 million doesn’t even count on what the Zuck Bucks bought in prior elections and 2024.

Why would a foreigner like Soros, who doesn’t even visit the USA, give away billions to the Democratic Party?

In 2010, masons Warren Buffet (who funded Microsoft) and Bill Gates founded The Giving Pledge to manage the money of any billionaire who, just like them, was a figurehead of the masonic mafia and had to return them the dirty money made from monopoly, usury, insider information, sabotage, moles, government grants, contracts and arranged bids, stolen patents, mason or corrupt judges favoring them (e.g. when Zuckerberg stole Facebook), counterfeit money and laundering, drugs, etc.

That might explain why “400 highest tax-paying Americans donated between 8 percent and 11 percent of their income in 2010”. In 2019 more than 500 billion from 200 out of 2000 global billionaires. 2 It could be over a trillion dollars, considering that the 2 founders gave over 100 billion, then it’s less than 1 billion for the rest, if we discount the top 5 donors.

Living Pledge hall of shame: Mark Zuckerberg, Paul Allen (co-founder of Microsoft), Michael R. Bloomberg, Elon Musk, David Rockefeller (d. 2017), Jeff and Marieke Rothschild, Carl Icahn, Michael Milken (junk bonds scam), ...

Here’s where the mason prenup agreement laws kicks in. Melinda Gates walked away with only a couple of billions (after forced spending 50 billion in the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation). Probably, it’s the same for MacKenzie Scott, Elon’s ex.

They are not philanthropists (from greek, human-friends) but misanthropists (human-haters). They are not giving away their money: they are returning to Satan the stolen money to programs designed to exterminate us. Thank you but, no thank you! Their power is so obvious: their money is not taxed even if it’s destined to the common bad instead of the common good.

Why is it that so many billionaires are evil? It’s hard to believe s that money corrupts everyone: there are many examples that prove it doesn’t.

It looks like there is a rigged system that searches to corrupt them (Epstein) and only allows the most evil to become billionaires by destroying the competition with unchecked illegal practices.

If it wasn’t for the freemason cabal, why would IBM masons give pimple college-dropout Bill Gates monopoly to IBM PC, who didn’t even have a software and stole/“bought” it from a Seattle programmer?

The luciferian mafia pays you well: “Gates’ wealth is also tied up in luxury assets, which he has purchased over the years. Gates’ home, which he’s dubbed “Xanadu 2.0” as a reference to the movie Citizen Kane, was estimated to be worth $127.48 million in 2017. Add a large car collection and a $130 million art collection including a Leonardo da Vinci manuscript. The family also has a private jet worth almost $20 million and owns a private tropical island in Belize called Grand Bogue Caye, valued at about $25 million.” … just in exchange for eternal hell fire.

Communists, Zionists, Islamic fundamentalists, Gaia worshipping environmentalists, UN, WEF, etc. All evil groups seem to be working for their cause only, yet they are all precisely coordinated. On top of the puppet groups there are the different mason sects, and on top of them, the satanist sects (all groups work for Satan, but those upper sects have direct worship).

There's no deep state, just freemasonry. There are no conspiracies, just freemason plots. There's no democracy with freemasonry, only conspiracy. Freemasonry is THE most lethal virus. Freemasonry is THE enemy of “the people”, that destroys a nation from within. There’s no 2030 globalism without freemasonry.

Cicero (in Taylor Caldwell’s fiction): “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” 3

Some say: “they want you DEAD or LAVE!“. Wrong: they want you a dead slave… just like we let them treat the unborn babies: a person called a thing (definition of slavery), which could be killed at will.

More to be posted here:

The full PLAN exposed:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed

16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet

Politics got us in, politics is the way out ... after prayers!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison

Gates-WHO: vaccines can’t reduce population, except by murdering

Proof: they were never for reducing mortality, only for murdering!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth

FREE “wake-up” MOVIES !

15 million watched the first one in 3 days!

Watch as if your lives depended on it: literally!

Share to save lives: not sharing is not caring!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos

The threat of the WHO sovereignty-grab by the 2023 IHR and 2024 International PLANdemc Treaty: we’ve got until November 2023 for Congress to repeal IHR modifications!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-threat-of-the-international-plandemic

Will Tedros EVER go to JAIL?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/will-tedros-ever-go-to-jail

30 Spike Protein Treatments (COVID+Vx)

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/covid-treatments

The SUPER drug

Treats 25 viruses, cancer, multiple sclerosis, SPS....

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-super-drug

The REAL COVID timeline:

It’s Bio-BOMB, like the vx, not what you were drilled

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline

Bio-BOMB, not “vaccine”, not “gene-therapy”

This 5th gen war, includes a war on semantics.

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just

What do bioweapons have to do with the Department of Energy?

Anybody answering these questions PLEASE ? !!!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with

Amnesty or JUSTICE:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/amnesty-or-justice

Doc’s apology? No way!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/doc-says-oops-im-a-complete-idiot

How to turn the AI into a COVIDIOT:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/how-to-turn-ai-into-a-covidiot

The 2020 and 2022 rigged and stolen elections (it’s the machines!):

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati

J6: what THEY don't want YOU to know

The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know

Dominion over US

You can’t make this stuff up. Do they laugh in our faces? Was the name Dominion chosen to prove their dominion?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us

A Republic or a Democracy? Are we crazy to accept demo-crazy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/democracy-democrazy

It sucks! We need to improve democracy… how about REAL democracy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/reinventing-democracy

Green communism sucked 200 trillion from taxpayers:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/best-scientific-sources-to-debunk

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/killing-me-softly-with-green-songs

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/carbon-reparations

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/climate-deaths

Open season for human culling:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/electro-quakes

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/balloon-attack

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/satattack

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/toxic-spraying

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/water-poisoning-they-drink-perrier

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-myocarditis-mammoth-in-the-er

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/war-on-mothers-and-babies

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/adenovirus-covid-vaccines-caused

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/stealth-ultrasound-and-microwave

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If we take the neo-cons and who they are and where they came from and expand this in every direction we might see the source and cause of all this... https://www.unz.com/runz/the-neocons-and-their-rise-to-power/

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It's not the neo-cons, reps or dems. It’s not the Feds, DoD, CIA, NSA, HHS, NIH, CDC, FDA. It’s not the USA, China, Russia, Ukraine. It's the MASONS and satanists in there! They promote hatred based on categories, political parties, races, religions, so we keep busy against each other while letting them destroy us all, blinded by identity fights. Divide and conquer. Factioning for ruling. Think about the concept of intersectionality: it was designed to multiply factions to the infinite, so that in the end, each person becomes a faction for himself!

That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t cherish and nurture from your national, religious and cultural roots. Yet those roots should be used to enrich your community, nation and mankind, not to quash the rest of them, based on a narcissist pride that only leads to fight, while strengthening your enemy and weakening your identity: they have succeeded in creating a rootless de-familized global citizen, easy to be manipulated in a nationless global government.

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LOL.... KEEP THE conspiracy theories up.... it helps confuse the issue like the kennedy assassination.. create so many rabbit trails that then dividing the population which becomes committed to a particular one...then the groups fight against each other and so the perps go free....

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Wake up!

The full PLAN exposed:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed

16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet

Politics got us in, politics is the way out ... after prayers!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison

Gates-WHO: vaccines can’t reduce population, except by murdering

Proof: they were never for reducing mortality, only for murdering!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth

FREE “wake-up” MOVIES !

15 million watched the first one in 3 days!

Watch as if your lives depended on it: literally!

Share to save lives: not sharing is not caring!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos

The threat of the WHO sovereignty-grab by the 2023 IHR and 2024 International PLANdemc Treaty: we’ve got until November 2023 for Congress to repeal IHR modifications!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-threat-of-the-international-plandemic

Will Tedros EVER go to JAIL?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/will-tedros-ever-go-to-jail

30 Spike Protein Treatments (COVID+Vx)

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/covid-treatments

The SUPER drug

Treats 25 viruses, cancer, multiple sclerosis, SPS....

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-super-drug

The REAL COVID timeline:

It’s Bio-BOMB, like the vx, not what you were drilled

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline

Bio-BOMB, not “vaccine”, not “gene-therapy”

This 5th gen war, includes a war on semantics.

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just

What do bioweapons have to do with the Department of Energy?

Anybody answering these questions PLEASE ? !!!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with

Amnesty or JUSTICE:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/amnesty-or-justice

Doc’s apology? No way!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/doc-says-oops-im-a-complete-idiot

How to turn the AI into a COVIDIOT:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/how-to-turn-ai-into-a-covidiot

The 2020 and 2022 rigged and stolen elections (it’s the machines!):

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati

J6: what THEY don't want YOU to know

The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know

Dominion over US

You can’t make this stuff up. Do they laugh in our faces? Was the name Dominion chosen to prove their dominion?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us

A Republic or a Democracy? Are we crazy to accept demo-crazy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/democracy-democrazy

It sucks! We need to improve democracy… how about REAL democracy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/reinventing-democracy

Green communism sucked 200 trillion from taxpayers:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/best-scientific-sources-to-debunk

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/killing-me-softly-with-green-songs

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/carbon-reparations

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/climate-deaths

Open season for human culling:

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/electro-quakes

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/balloon-attack

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/satattack

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/toxic-spraying

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/water-poisoning-they-drink-perrier

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-myocarditis-mammoth-in-the-er

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/war-on-mothers-and-babies

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/adenovirus-covid-vaccines-caused

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/stealth-ultrasound-and-microwave

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Hiya,

I don't exactly worship Gaia, but I believe the earth is one intimately interconnected, inseparable whole and I also am aware that we're living through a mass species extinction (including lose of pollinators), that are oceans are full of mercury and plastic, that air pollution is killing people and that millions of children starve to death and that millions of others die of being too fat.

I agree they are clearly trying to control us, put us in smart towns, make us each fake burgers and bugs.

But that doesn't change that fact that the soil is impoverished and many are malnourished. That there's a huge gap in health and mortality between indigenous and non-indigenous people.

Are we just supposed to sit back and let this continue?

Jo

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Tulare lake in CA shows nature fighting back..... a 790 sq mile lake refilling now in SoCal

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(MacKenzie = Bezos Ex)

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The criminal ruling class wants to commit the worst atrocities imaginable and suffer no consequences.

Supporting this excellent post with a statement and useful links.

We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!

It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back!

We must never lose sight of the larger picture of the vile malignance we are fighting against.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EVEN WORSE FRAUD THAN THE PLANSCAMDEMIC! SO-CALLED GREEN TECH IS A GIGANTIC SCAM! MINING AND MANUFACTURING 'GREEN' PRODUCTS NEEDS COAL, GAS AND OIL AND MINING RARE MINERALS IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN LEGACY PRODUCTS. SCREW YOUR DAMNED AGENDA!

There is an insidious global ruling class plot to enslave all life on earth behind all the madness and suffering inflicted on We the People.

How to fight back against this TOTAL SLAVERY!

RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! DITCH THE DAMNED 'SMART' PHONES AND THE DAMNED QR CODES AND GO BACK TO LANDLINES OR FLIP PHONES AND USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! INSIST ON CASH! CBDC IS TOTAL SLAVERY!

Other than getting rid of nuclear weapons which I support 100% the rest of the anti-nuclear peace movement and CLIMATE CRISIS propaganda is parroting UN utter GARBAGE, a complete surrender to the ENSLAVEMENT AGENDA by the diabolical despots of Davos - ruling class criminals who lust for total power and control and all of whom should be tried and jailed for life and their malign organizations dismantled: the UN, the WEF, the IMF, the WHO, the BIS, NATO, Blackrock, Vanguard, The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, The Bilderbergers, the CFR et al.

There is an evil predator globalist technocratic elite agenda of eugenics/depopulation/genocide using bioweapon poison jabs, war, geoengineering, EMF radiation, starvation and economic collapse - THE GREAT RESET/AGENDA 2030/4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION to get rid of billions of 'useless eaters' and to use nano tech to turn the survivors into ROBOTIZED COMPLIANT SLAVES! WAKE UP AND RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! These are psychopath megalomaniacs who want to play god by turning all life into digitized metaverse mechanistic synthetic biology to be manipulated by their AI algorithms. A more demonic sickening idea is nearly impossible to imagine!

APPALLED AND HORRIFIED AT INSANE TYRANNICAL PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TOTALITARIAN CONTROL! REVERSE THIS NOW!

MAKE THE WORLD AND AMERICA 2019 (comparatively speaking), AND FREE AGAIN!

NO, I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MORONIC SCARIANT SHMARIANT MONKEYSHINES! WAKE UP ALREADY!

TOTALLY CONDEMN BIDEN AND ALL OTHER POLS WHO HAVE NO POWER TO LAWLESSLY ACT LIKE AN EMPEROR OR DICTATOR AND DECREE JAB CROW 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' FASCIST SEGREGATION/DISCRIMINATION/APARTHEID VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE NUREMBERG CODES AND EVERY CIVIL RIGHT IMAGINABLE.

NO GREEN NEW DEALS OR BUILD BACK BETTER FROM THE CRIMINAL TECHNOCRAT TYRANTS KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS CRONIES FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.

STOP THE TERRIBLE TYRANNY OF THE TECHNOCRATS GLOBAL AGENDA OF TOTAL SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL USING THE VIRUS AS EXCUSE AND PROPAGANDA TOOL!

NO MUZZLING STIFLING MASK MANDATES! NO FORCED VACCINES! END TORTUROUS DEVASTATING LOCK DOWNS NOW! I WANT MY LIFE BACK.

https://wrenchinthegears.com

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com

https://pandemicfacts.info

https://wearehumanwearefree.org/7-days-campaign/

https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/covid-19-roadmap-12-step-plan-to-create-a-totalitarian-new-world-order-were-on-number-8-headed-towards-number-9/

https://questioningcovid.com

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1581-james-corbett-breaks-down-the-great-reset/

http://www.stopcp.com/GlobalResetPSYOP/GlobalResetPSYOPMindMap.html

https://everydayconcerned.net/2020/09/04/breaking-major-investigative-report-by-association-of-french-reserve-army-officers-finds-covid-19-pandemic-to-have-a-hidden-agenda-for-global-totalitarianism-nanotech-chipping-of-all-5g-irradia/

Pam Popper: https://makeamericansfreeagain.com

Del Bigtree: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/highwire

https://www.technocracy.news

Naomi Wolf: https://dailyclout.io

www.nojabforme.info

https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-must-awaken-from-corona-coma-reject-great-reset-robotic-technocracy-assert-common-humanity/5745213

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Yep death and slavery from satanic evils

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"We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!"

New Celeste Solum video on this exact topic. Mind blowing.

Celeste Solum – The End Game, Synthetic Biology EXPOSED

MAY 4, 2023

https://zeeemedia.com/interview/exclusive-celeste-solum-the-end-game-synthetic-biology-exposed/

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I don't disagree. It is common to read of humanity's ills being blamed on the satanic or "psychopath megalomaniacs" and the like; but, for what it is worth, my conclusion is that the intellect behind our ills is not human at all. For me, that makes sense of a great deal which otherwise does not make sense 🤷🏼‍♀️

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I don't disagree! Clif High talks about 'Mantids' ETs and David Icke is infamous about his 'Reptilians' operating behind the scenes. Even Catherine Austin Fitts talks about off world civilizations.

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Yes of course green tech is a scam and a money maker and of course they're trying to control us, but that doesn't mean that there aren't some serious issues on the planet we call Earth and home https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/climate-change-is-not-happening-and

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May 8, 2023·edited May 9, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Leave it to the indomitable Diana West to find the glowing red thread in a movie ostensibly

anti-communist, yet written by leftist Andrea Chalupa. Andrea is the sister of leftist Alexandria Chalupa, who during the 2016 presidential election, worked for Ukraine, the DNC AND the Hillary Clinton campaign, trying to influence the U.S 2016 presidential election and U.S. government officials.

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Hi John!

Wow. I wonder if Diana knows this.

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If she followed George Webb´s utube reportage series ca 2016-2020, she would. Incidentally, Nellie Ohr also featured prominently therein - as a qualified ham radio operator, no less, and for the same reasons as Alexandra Chalupa.

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I bet she does.

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This is sort of reminiscent of an experience I had where a friend whom I would characterize as profoundly anti-Leftist enthusiastically recommended the movie "Zero Dark Thirty" about the hunt for Osama bin Laden. I was leery, having been burned by Hollywood so many times, and didn't care to watch another PC whitewash of Islamic jihad. "Don't worry!" my friend assured me, "this movie really nails it! You won't be disappointed!" Well, I watched it, and found numerous spasms & tics of politically correct camelshit throughout. Indeed, the only accurate moment in the movie is when the trusted Moderate Muslim informant, unbeknown to the naively trusting CIA (!), looks up to the heavens, crying out "Allahu Akbar!" before exploding and killing a dozen CIA agents around him.

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Very interesting.

That podcast is a good idea.

I had an "exchange" with a gentleman a couple of days ago. I was giving my favorable opinion of Rappoport, Duesberg and Farber. He was writing emotionally against all, that the "AIDS dissident movement" was basically killed by Duesberg and his thugs. He says Celia is not a good researcher and she needs to be ignored.

I refused to answer until he lowers the abusive language, which he doesn't know how to do, so my exchange did not get further.

If someone has evidence and arguments about Jon and Celia being shills and members of a supposed Duesberg-lead shill psyop to mislead people, I would like to hear their case without being insulted. I won't read non-sense from people who don't know how to communicate with strangers. And I don't see any clue that Rappoport or Farber are insincere or cooky in any way, so it is a tough sell to make.

If someone wants the links, just ask and I will post them.

Just why is it that people are so weak in their arguments that with even one little push of resistance they begin to accuse people of being paid trolls or shills or worse? I mean, the "Agent" in my moniker is obviously ironic (or so I want you to believe, haha!)

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So what do I have to do to be ignored then, by these spiteful thugs? They can say anything they like about my work, or being a shitty researcher, but it's defamation and libel if they say I ever took money from an unsavory source, or ever partook in a "PSY OP." It would be worth going to court just to demonstrate how these poor souls struggle with even the most elemental standards of proof. They think their resentments constitute proof. They're not even bad researchers, they just dream things up in their heads. They are a-historical. Ask Kevin Corbett. Do you want his contact info? He knows the history since the early 90s. And he believes HIV has never been proven to exist, nor SARS Coverage 2, as do I. As does Dave Rasnick. As did David Crowe. Show we one example of a Duesberg THUG act. Please? I'm prepared to write a surrealist one act play around it.

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Tell this "gentleman" that Duesberg had a stroke in 2021 and is hardly in any shape to lead a shill PSY OP. What utter rubbish. When did this "gentleman" join the virus wars? Was it in recent years? Duesberg was the center of the AIDS dissident movement and its main battle its first major battle, in which he fought front and center, was AZT. Do they think Lauritsen was a shill too? He was the first journalist ever to interview Duesberg, (about this) in 1987. And he wrote, as you may know, several scholarly books about AZT.

Are they ignoring me or are they dreaming up fantasies about me being a paid shill and running a PSY OP? God they're such morons.

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He is probably a lifer in the movement, judging how he writes and the links he gives.

The way people write often tells a lot about what's going on in their souls.

As time passes and the covid dissidence grows, these characters begin to show up everywhere. For me it's shocking and funny, because I'm new to this (only one year, still learning.)

The podcast of Jon the other day was very informative. He insisted that we should not eat our own, as it happened in the AIDS dissidence. He gave examples. I didn't know the true dimension of going berserk until I began to see conflicts in the covid dissidence.

Agents of chaos, as Mathew Crawford calls them.

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I have an idea who you may be speaking of. I believe he is an agent, yes. Many people are being drawn in by this, it's really shocking. I wish them luck. We need to pray for all these people. They are tormented.

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Probably high-carb low-fat, LOL.

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I'm high-carb low-fat, was that meant perjoratively agent 23?

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My intention is comedic, not insulting or belittling.

Perhaps if you ate more protein and fat you would get the humor.

If you choose to try that weird hemp seed protein isolate that some people use, I recommend you to have some digestive enzymes along the way. You are not a bird. Birds that eat seeds have good protease enzymes for those seeds. Blending is not enough.

I encourage you to try some butter some time. Cows are not hurt at all when you eat butter. Butter is good for everyone. Your liver and pancreas kinda expect you to eat something like butter from time to time. You are a beautiful omnivorous human being, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

The coconut fat is okay but not as good as butter.

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I don't believe God can "help" these morons, or is even meant to. It's a battle to ignore or not to ignore them and you have suffered greatly because of the battles you fight, but, you are a leader for others who want to fight beside you. Legions are growing and we can thank humans like you for our numbers. Take care of yourself. Much love and admiration.

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Why would you repeat your exchange with an unnamed gentleman and disturb Celia? Why should his opinion be important to us?

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Honestly, I came here asking because I wanted more info, I did not mean to cause any trouble and I regret it in part. But I also think it's a good idea to settle the score, now that I see what's the problem.

My advice for any fellow reader: ignore the comments of the person I'm talking about. It's not worth it.

But Jon Rappoport was arguing in his podcast that these weird people existed. And he warns people from the covid dissidence that don't know the past about not eating our own.

Bullying or whatever it really is, is something terrible. We have to stand up to bullies, even if we would prefer not to.

If people are real, we have to get along for the issue at hand even when there are a ton of things that distance each other. But people who are not real... they have to go.

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If the person you are talking about is "Allen", then I would disregard your advice. On the contrary, I suggest to challenge any defamatory statements to make clear they are such, have been noted, and may constitute libel. I have done so, and intend repeat action if necessary.

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It's not Allen.

But in the following post, Celia Farber invites the stalkers to come to the surface.

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Duesberg did not have "thugs." The Perth Group did. It was not their fault. I was always on good terms with them and still am. (Ask Val Turner.) But their defenders are often vicious and militant, filled with hate for anybody who straightforwardly told Duesberg's story, which was NOT the same as Perth Group's story. Telling Duesberg's full story was a way to document the erasure of scientific dissent in the age of AIDS. That was an important story. They don't understand the difference between telling that story and fully endorsing his "views" on retroviruses. They're fanatical and full of hate. And I am not at all a shitty researcher. I write about people through, not about missing viruses. I was interested in how people found the courage to dissent. The people you are talking about murdered the movement. It used to be civilized, it is now a hopeless slum, since many years, because of them. Who's stopping them, from getting their story out? Not me. And not Peter Duesberg.

True story: I got an email from a leading Perth Group defender around 2008 expressing a fantasy of executing a prominent HIV dissenter I won't name, on his knees, blind folded and at point blank range, while he squealed for his life in his "fag voice." The person in question was not gay, not that it matters. They want to fight? I'll re-produce the email. Val Turner has said these bullies do not speak for the Perth Group and he was horrified to learn of this email.

Duesberg's scientific biographer Harvey Bialy was the first to publish a "no virus" paper in Bio/Technology in 1993, and I and many others wrote about it. Is this an example of a Duesberg thug?

They describe themselves. They only know how to attack. But always behind people's backs. It's super classy.

Jon and I both write about many different things, and we both have audiences, who like to read what we write. AIDS is one of many things we have written about. The people you're talking about have never once posited a broader theory of what this all is about. What's the big picture? I collected quotes from a wide spectrum of scientists, academics, thinkers, lawyers, doctors, gay men and more. My "research" was largely contained in these quotes, so the reader could see what people were saying, at any given time. It was voice driven.

I swear on my life and Lewis' that I have never taken a dollar from any controlling outside body, whoever that might be. What exactly are they claiming? I make $42,000 a year on Substack, and can prove it. Would the neo-no virus gang like to share their tax returns? If they have made claims I have taken money from industry or otherwise "sold out" I will possibly sue them for defamation. And I will win. Because it's not true.

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Thank you for putting together this information, and sorry if I have ruined your day with my initial comment.

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You have nothing to apologize for. I get these reports often, I know who they are, and on a good day, I pray for them. I believe they are infiltrators and of an evil, evil nature. Anybody who can't see what, I can't help. Ask the "gentleman" to demonstrate one single instance of a "Duesberg thug" attacking somebody. A Duesberg led PSY OP??? That is SO BATSHIT crazy! As I have documented and much more so, as Harvey Bialy has documented, Duesberg turned his full attention BACK to cancer genetics in the late 1990s and even from the start, wanted little or nothing to do with AIDS, apart from saying it was an unproven and impossible "hypothesis." He performed a great service to humanity and anybody who can't see that has a black heart. In addition to being a VERY shitty researcher.

If you care to send me any actual accusations about my income or supposed involvement in a "PSY OP" I will take legal action. JUST for the fun of seeing how they assemble their "proof" in court. They're hopeless. Pray for them.

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Now I apologize because he did not use the expression PSY OP, that expression "Duesberg-led psyop" is my summary of his arguments, as I understood them.

He argues that Peter Duesberg was creating a business about his cancer theory. What's wrong with a competent scientist starting a business to continue is research when his career has been damaged and he is blacklisted? This is common practice even when they are not blacklisted at all.

More to our point, this person did wrote the "AIDS" dissident movement was "BUNGLED and TANKED by Duesberg and his cabal of worshippers."

He is not the best writer in the world, and it's a bit difficult to follow his comments.

That and another lines I read (with effort) in his comments created the idea in my mind that he was accusing people of the usual accusation that everyone gets: you are controlled op, a shill, you are running a PSY OP.

So I summarized it with my own words.

I had no intention of misrepresenting his comments or to mislead anyone. Sorry!

Also no direct accusation. Only insinuation.

As a side note, I have been accused in other places by other commenters of being a paid troll. Which is hilarious. I'm not a professional writer, so I don't have a reputation that can be attacked. That last part of my first comment was only general observation that when people don't know what to say when they get a disagreeing response and they often go for the easy insult.

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Why didn't Perth Group attend the first Pretoria conference in 2000? They were invited. Why did they ask to be taken OUT of my 2006 Harper's article? Why did they cancel Neville Hodgkinson's trip to Perth to interview them for the Sunday Times. And on and on. NOBODY STOPPED THEM OR THEIR ACOLYTES FROM GOING AS FAR AS THEY WISHED. THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT.

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Very good succinct perceptive response to these environments.

Thanks.

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LOL! Better not go near. Ignore them.

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believe Duesberg was sidelined when he came out against the HIV virus but rather that AIDS was caused by subclinical STDs and also came out against AZT as treatment.... history repeating itself under Fauci today with vax and remdesivir..... Fauci has been at the genocide game for decades...

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May 8, 2023·edited May 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

I am very curious what you and Diana West would have to say about this book out of China in 2013:

Rural Health Care Delivery

Modern China from the Perspective of Disease Politics

Springer, 2013

('GET' .pdf download)

http://library.lol/main/DB87C08A174B849E1EB0476138787AED

I wrote a quick overview of the book on my Stack last month.

https://freedomfox.substack.com/p/the-devious-use-of-infectious-disease

In this comment I'll just list of some of the section and chapter titles that I found very relevant for our times, that fit nicely into what you're deep diving into:

5.3 Discipline Imposed by Hygiene

8 State of “the People”

9.4 “To Combine Health Campaigns with Mass Movements”

10.3 The “Cleanness” of the State and Legitimacy Construction

11 The Patriotic Hygiene Campaign and the Construction of Clean New People

12 A Farewell to the “Sick Man of East Asia”: The Irony, Deconstruction, and Reshaping of the Metaphor

13.2 “The Higher the Education Level One Has, the Sillier He Is”

13.3 “Comments on Wearing a Medical Mask”

17.3 From “the Benevolent Medicine” to the “Formula for Money-Making”

17.4 One’s Life or Death Is Utterly Dependent on One’s Fate

19 A Public Country and Its Expansion

20 The Logic of Disease Politics

23 A Nation-State? A Democratic State?

I first found this Chinese book in a link contained in this Foreign Affairs article:

Past Pandemics Exposed China’s Weaknesses

The Current One Highlights Its Strengths

Foreign Affairs, March 27, 2020

https://web.archive.org/web/20200328050913/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2020-03-27/past-pandemics-exposed-chinas-weaknesses

Foreign Affairs is an international affairs publication supported by and intended for the globalist audience, those who believe in one-world governance, varieties found both on the left and right. It is a highly influential publication in those circles.

If those with great international power and control and influence in government who were closely linked to a pharmaceutical cabal saw the book as a template for this anaconda, it would be very useful, imho. I'll be curious about your thoughts if you decide to dig into it as I did. And if you believe it would also be of interest to Diana West to share it with her.

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Oh my God almighty.

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May 8, 2023·edited May 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

From the book's official description:

"Diseases are everyday, ordinary occurrences intimately related to people’s daily lives. However, as the metaphor of the “Sick Man of East Asia” emerged against the backdrop of a weak modern China, health care and the curing of diseases were turned into grand state politics with far-reaching implications. This book, starting with the argument for diseases being metaphors, describes and interprets such incidents in China’s history as the Abolishment of Traditional Chinese Medicine, the Patriotic Hygiene Campaign and the Cooperative Medical Services. In an effort to reveal the internal logic of disease politics in the transformation of the state-people relationship, the book analyzes key aspects including the politicization and inclusion of diseases in state governance, the double disciplining of hygiene, legitimacy construction of the state, the remaking of the nationals, and the expansion of the “publicness” of the state. The book argues that disease politics in modern China has developed following the path from nationals to the people, and then to citizens, or from crisis politics and mobilization politics to life politics. In addition, a marked change has occurred in China’s state building: increasingly standard, rationalized and institutionalized means have been employed while the non-standard means, such as large-scale mobilization and ideological coercion, had been historically used in China."

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Springer Verlag? My sense of smell gets a whiff of Merck. Germany does loom large in the covid-1984 affair, not least due to the Drosten gigafraud PCR-test, allegedly based on Chinese data.

2013? EU had made its unique contribution to the discourse by then: https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/4cc2ea93-d003-417e-9294-1103a6ee877d

Act together, save the world! Why is the framing Chinese again, I wonder?

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May 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Yes, the 'anaconda' behind all three is the same: livestock management. Control, manipulate, harvest.

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'What is it about revolutionary socialism and its leaders, that takes to Covid tyranny like a duck to water?'

This is a good question.... and also democrats take to this the same.... they being so brainwashed by the proppaganda media and provoked to a mob miindset to demonize someone, that is Trump for all the problems of the world.... people becoming part of a mob brotherhood..... they would approve the mass burnings of those the media says are witches.....

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the mediarhhea are witches

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good word coining

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About the term "social justice".

It was originally created by a Jesuit around the time of the 1848 revolution in Paris. Luigi Taparelli. I don't know what to make about that. Were the Jesuits infiltrating liberalism, socialism and the newborn communism, or was it the other way around?

The story of the Jesuits is complicated. The language was always very militaristic, probably due to the profession of the founder, who was a warrior. They lead the "counter-reformation" of the church, which created problems inside the Roman church, especially with the Franciscans and the Augustinians (Martin Luther was an Augustinian monk). But as time and wars passed, the Jesuits changed too.

Some Jesuits argued to kill the monarchs because they were going against Church, against God's mandate. Strangely enough, the execution of that king in England by the Parliament army lead by Cromwell was inspired in part by the idea of having to establish a christian republics because of the corruption of the monarchs, but the Puritans were in no way Catholics.

In the 20th century, the Jesuits were implicated in the socialist "liberation theology" movement. A few socialdemocrats politicians of the last 50 years studied in Jesuit schools. All big-government types, all in favor of the dreadful public-private partnerships.

There are also environmentalists with ties to them.

So, back to social justice, as it is used now, it seems very far removed from a religious-military order of the Catholic Church. Social justice is more like a hustle based on the economic exploitation of the poor, and not like a political tactic to prevent revolutions.

The idea of "decentralization" is also related to Taparelli. It is known as the "principle of subsidiarity". The Jesuits are all brainiacs so they tend to use very long words.

One former Jesuits and former priest, Ivan Illich, coined the word "iatrogenic disease," among other miracles. How he left? I don't know, perhaps Illich saw what was really going on in the 1950s and the 1960s. But, is it really possible to leave the Society of Jesus?

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"What is it about revolutionary socialism and its leaders, that takes to Covid tyranny like a duck to water?"

It also happens with the so called "democratic-socialists" or socialdemocrats that are ruining every social structure in Europe.

My analysis harks back to the contempt of Marx for the workers and the farmers. These people really hate life and the people who love life. Because the workers and farmers and everyone refused the revolution. They know the difficulties in life, and yet they have hope and love, specially the Christians.

People don't like revolutions, they like to overcome their living problems and own their success, if they get it. Normal people naturally want to imitate Christ and Mary, even if they are not religious or don't know that story.

So, the social security and the welfare state was always a trap to bind people to the God-State, and prevent them from enjoying life as much as possible. From there spawns the "eternal adolescence" suffered by many people born after the 1960s. It's all fundamentally about hate for the natural way of doing the game of life, as designed by God.

The socialists hijacked the initial and truly grass-roots "mutual aid societies." Those 19th century societies were privately run, they didn't want moochers, they didn't want to put people down or morally enslave them. The idea was clear: help people get out of poverty with their own impulse, so that they own their life.

Today I see how the idea of combating victim mentality is also being hijacked by the commies. It was another plan to help people getting out of the codependency relationship that hurts them, and obviously the despots cannot allow that. No self-care is allowed.

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That the vax is bad. People dont believe it after years of Kennedy exposing stuff, why would they believe it if he ran as a candidate who runs on this sole subject. They'd feel confirmed that he is a loon who doesn't even have a program outside of his antivax field

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May 8, 2023·edited May 8, 2023Liked by Celia Farber

Very good stuff, and looking forward to your podcasts together in the future.

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To be continued I hope. Intriguing.

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When we get closer to the truth the more vicious the wicked become.

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The left today is not really the left.

Remember anti war protests?

Remember civil rights, fighting apartheid?

Remember pro working class?

Today, the left and the right are just two wings of the same war machine.

If the right were in power, they would be pushing the same biomedical crap like Trump did with operation warp speed.

When government merges with corporate power, it's fascism.

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no one knows -- Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen (1962) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVKKRzemX_w

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"What is it about revolutionary socialism and its leaders, that takes to Covid tyranny like a duck to water?"

Answer: it works. Scare people enough and you can take from them things that they've taken for granted. Rights, liberty bla bla bla. People in the United States don't know how tenuous their grasp of their basic rights truly is. They dont think about what they're giving away...for nothing.

They have no concept of history so it's all rather predictable, sadly.

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