Control the food and you control the population. This is what Joe Stalin did to the Ukrainian farmers in the 20s and 30s. They could not control the local population as long as they could grow their own food, so they took everything edible, including their seed for next year. This is the Holodomor, still not well known outside of Ukraine. It was no accident or famine. It was intentional starvation. How many millions died? Nobody really knows, and the Soviets did not keep records. I don't see much difference here between the Netherlands now and Ukraine 90 years ago. This is obviously a WEF ploy, playing on the global warming farce to try to take the land of the farmers so that it can reduce the amount of food produced and thus control the populace. Rise up and fight back against the people that want you to eat bugs.
Each to his own, but I would probably trust Stalin more than I would Mark Rutte. Stalin didn't intentionally starve anyone; once Soviet agriculture became sufficiently industrialized, there were no more famines.
Once Stalin crushed the resistance, the Soviets couldn't feed their population and they had to let the peasants go back to growing their own food. The Soviets could never grow enough food. They had to allow individuals to grow privately so they could feed the country. I suppose you don't know what happened in the 80s. The supermarkets were empty. It was like a famine because the state did not provide enough food. I was in Moscow after the fall of the Soviet Union and you could go into any store and it was empty. I went into the countryside where the people had their own private dachas and they were digging potatoes by hand getting ready for winter with a sack full of potatoes. How many ways can you cook a potato? That was life in the Soviet Union.
Yes indeed. Just as those emaciated people we saw in many of those WW II nazi photos taken of prison work camps were largely photos of Russian prisoners. Stalin is also noted for labeling particular assets as "useful stooges." I don't believe anyone would disagree that Stalin was a devious dictator. The suffering of the Russian people shouldn't be underestimated.
Many of us know that we cannot negotiate with psychopaths and philanthropaths. We are in a learning phase at present. The trouble is that the money masters control the bureaucratic minions. The next 2-5 years are going to be very interesting.
Thanks been following information on these Dutch farmer stories. Precisely accurate - better spoken than any current government “leaders”. Still largely silent the Americans are awaiting their chances to speak. There is too much trust and not sufficient healthy suspicion in the US. But American farmers are trying to speak out - just difficult to find the good sporadic examples on alternative media. Was heartened by this report - sourced of all places through hapless CNN - showing that Americans ( in Montana, at least) are planning on speaking out through the elections. But too your point these folks are better spoken than the politicos.
They are Heros, but I anticipate that like the Canadian Truckers, faceles and nameless goons will be brought in to physically remove them; oh, and they have just started as well. So if this crap is starting in Holland then to be sure it will cascade to all western nations, as already announced in Canada and Ireland. Ireland (my country of birth) is unique as a high portion of their agri-exports go to the next door neighbour, the UK, so me wonders if this is another method the increasingly authoritarian EU is deploying to punish the Brexiters?
There is one difference. The Canadian truckers movement congealed into the main protest encampment in Ottawa, with which it clearly made a vigorous statement but equally clearly presented the authorities with a clear target. The Dutch farmers are protesting all over the country, not in one single location. They cannot simply be shut down by the authorities, although clearly they can be harassed in various ways. A general strike would probably move things in the right direction, but no sign of anything like that yet, alas.
Colin Brace-Those are cogent data points for sure! As for what is forthcoming, we cannot know the future, alas. What is predictable IMO is the continuance of a citizen led insurgency as we have seen in Australia. The war is far from over.
It's hard to tell where this is going. I'm in the Dutch countryside at the moment, in the beautiful northern province of Friesland, and the most visible symbol of protest -- upside down Dutch flag -- is everywhere. Villages and towns have them hanging from every streetlight. But where does it go from here? The sporadic protest actions will continue, but I've yet to see signs of widespread active resistance. Closing down the port of Rotterdam for a week would work wonders, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. However, if the fuel and especially food shortages that some people are predicting begin to kick in this autumn, perhaps public mood may darken sufficiently to precipitate action. The Dutch public may support the farmers, but it is still very complacent, I'm sorry to say. I'm not keen for anyone to suffer hardship, but perhaps some empty shelves in the supermarkets this winter will sharpen peoples' minds.
"The government don't listen to us"...but of course, this is the government's strategy all over since all the shit started. The governments need the same treatment like in sri lanka or more. At this point there is no room for dialog.
Dialog is constructive as long as a worthy intention is declared. Declarations must be reviewed and renewed daily. Discipline is essential. Dialog is useful and ncessary when we create relevant contexts-goals-and strategize. Engage with others who feel as you do. Complicity is futile. Complaining is worthless. Design worthwhile actions and follow through. Carry on...pax
With all due respect, how did you come to the conclusion that I don't understand what is going there and how do you know what my goals are considering my comment? What about the "crucial" common things between these countries, like green policies. In Germany, Italy, Poland, farmers are protesting too against their climate-obsessed government. Till now only sri lankan made possible the resignations of the country’s president & prime minister. And yes, everything is the globalists goal and the countries will collapse one by one if people will not be united against them.
If you have definitive evidence for the reasons the barricade is being built around the WH--please post links and data points. I don't accept J6 as the only plausible reason for the barricade. There are many events afoot at present that may skew the J6 event context.
Righto. The J6 event and subsequent kangarro mock trial merely set the stage for further "lockdown" measures as the Governments around the globe collapse. However, I'm not so sure that 'continuity of government' measures are necessarily malevolent in nature.
Why the obsession with cows and their exhaust gases? Because of the horns?
Luke the Evangelist is symbolized by an Ox, which is a castrated bull, the male of the cow. A symbol of strength and perseverance. In the Gospel of Luke, one can read the Lord's Prayer. Domestic animals like cows have always been a great help for humans. They hate anything that is good for us. Like CO2, like Nitrogen, like water.
This is excellent, thank you for sharing this and some of the YT comments. I am particularly excited to learn that Dutch farmers achieved so much, apparently sustainably (?), that could easily be replicated elsewhere. It would be very healthy for the world if each nation could feed 100% of its people. Perhaps this desire, this ambition, will emerge as a consequence of the WEF goons pushing too hard, too fast and causing common sense to erupt, again and again, until it wins, all over the world.
It is horrifying and discouraging that over the decades that I have studied "natural agriculture" (or whatever is the name today) that the great wealth of information gained and the successful practices that were developed have come to this. The farmers want to produce food, they know how to produce food in a way that has no negative results, while the bureaucrats want to make obeisance to the effed ideas of the WEF and its spawn.
Gaia loves the Dutch! They taught us long ago, very long ago, the oceans were rising! We still cannot listen, though. Listen to the Dutch? What do they do besides milk chocolate? Oh, dear. It gets worse.
Much more has been written on this since then, but I personally note that we are now at 8B humans, give or take, and far past the carrying capacity of the planet, particularly with consumerism on steroids and now stripping the skin off our very planet. Search "harm from nitrogen fertilizers" if you want to learn more. As for Fritz Haber, there's this from Wikipedia: "During World War I, Fritz Haber led the Chemistry Section in the Ministry of War for Germany. In the midst of the war, Haber and several other scientists, including chemists, developed poisonous gases such as phosgene, chlorine, and mustard." Elsewhere, I read that his wife, a peace activist, committed suicide over this endeavor,
As a bio major, I wish I had focused on organic farming and permaculture when I was 20, now 55 years ago.
Control the food and you control the population. This is what Joe Stalin did to the Ukrainian farmers in the 20s and 30s. They could not control the local population as long as they could grow their own food, so they took everything edible, including their seed for next year. This is the Holodomor, still not well known outside of Ukraine. It was no accident or famine. It was intentional starvation. How many millions died? Nobody really knows, and the Soviets did not keep records. I don't see much difference here between the Netherlands now and Ukraine 90 years ago. This is obviously a WEF ploy, playing on the global warming farce to try to take the land of the farmers so that it can reduce the amount of food produced and thus control the populace. Rise up and fight back against the people that want you to eat bugs.
Each to his own, but I would probably trust Stalin more than I would Mark Rutte. Stalin didn't intentionally starve anyone; once Soviet agriculture became sufficiently industrialized, there were no more famines.
It's important to understand Russian history. As well as the history of the CB in Davos! pax
Once Stalin crushed the resistance, the Soviets couldn't feed their population and they had to let the peasants go back to growing their own food. The Soviets could never grow enough food. They had to allow individuals to grow privately so they could feed the country. I suppose you don't know what happened in the 80s. The supermarkets were empty. It was like a famine because the state did not provide enough food. I was in Moscow after the fall of the Soviet Union and you could go into any store and it was empty. I went into the countryside where the people had their own private dachas and they were digging potatoes by hand getting ready for winter with a sack full of potatoes. How many ways can you cook a potato? That was life in the Soviet Union.
I'm aware of the transitional period-yes. The US is poised for similar circumstances as long as leftist stooges run things.
Yeah, that's not correct. Millions died. You don't need to compare anyone to Stalin. He was monsterous enough.
Yes indeed. Just as those emaciated people we saw in many of those WW II nazi photos taken of prison work camps were largely photos of Russian prisoners. Stalin is also noted for labeling particular assets as "useful stooges." I don't believe anyone would disagree that Stalin was a devious dictator. The suffering of the Russian people shouldn't be underestimated.
GYO = Grow Your Own. Learn from the Amish. pax
Agreed re: Dutch names—case in point: Gideon van Meijeren, the badass MP I celebrated in this piece for taking on PM Rutte (https://rumble.com/vsmb1j-dutch-mp-gideon-van-meijeren-confronts-pm-rutte-on-his-connections-w-klaus-.html):
• “Letter to Governor Ron DeSantis” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-governor-ron-desantis)
The problem is, we all think we can reason with psychopaths.
They don’t care.
This has been their agenda for decades.
At this point, more drastic actions must be taken.
We the populace of the world out number the globalist lunatics.
I wish all employees of these evil POS would just walk away.
Not one of them I’m guessing has any skills beyond murdering large swaths of people, at the hands of others.
Time to turn the tables.
Talking is futile
Many of us know that we cannot negotiate with psychopaths and philanthropaths. We are in a learning phase at present. The trouble is that the money masters control the bureaucratic minions. The next 2-5 years are going to be very interesting.
Very true.
Time to build community, barter and safety.
Amen to that! A possible definition: Comm-Unity = Unity in Communication. Align in language and in voice and in intention. pax
Perfect! Tyranny only prevails when good people do nothing(comply).
Or just administer some friendly water-boarding.
Thanks been following information on these Dutch farmer stories. Precisely accurate - better spoken than any current government “leaders”. Still largely silent the Americans are awaiting their chances to speak. There is too much trust and not sufficient healthy suspicion in the US. But American farmers are trying to speak out - just difficult to find the good sporadic examples on alternative media. Was heartened by this report - sourced of all places through hapless CNN - showing that Americans ( in Montana, at least) are planning on speaking out through the elections. But too your point these folks are better spoken than the politicos.
https://youtu.be/GpulkZo6x98
They are Heros, but I anticipate that like the Canadian Truckers, faceles and nameless goons will be brought in to physically remove them; oh, and they have just started as well. So if this crap is starting in Holland then to be sure it will cascade to all western nations, as already announced in Canada and Ireland. Ireland (my country of birth) is unique as a high portion of their agri-exports go to the next door neighbour, the UK, so me wonders if this is another method the increasingly authoritarian EU is deploying to punish the Brexiters?
Yes...in other words: This is a global War. Wars can continue for many years, and yet--what other options do we have when dealing with tyranny?
There is one difference. The Canadian truckers movement congealed into the main protest encampment in Ottawa, with which it clearly made a vigorous statement but equally clearly presented the authorities with a clear target. The Dutch farmers are protesting all over the country, not in one single location. They cannot simply be shut down by the authorities, although clearly they can be harassed in various ways. A general strike would probably move things in the right direction, but no sign of anything like that yet, alas.
Colin Brace-Those are cogent data points for sure! As for what is forthcoming, we cannot know the future, alas. What is predictable IMO is the continuance of a citizen led insurgency as we have seen in Australia. The war is far from over.
Exactly. They have not won, we have not lost.
It's hard to tell where this is going. I'm in the Dutch countryside at the moment, in the beautiful northern province of Friesland, and the most visible symbol of protest -- upside down Dutch flag -- is everywhere. Villages and towns have them hanging from every streetlight. But where does it go from here? The sporadic protest actions will continue, but I've yet to see signs of widespread active resistance. Closing down the port of Rotterdam for a week would work wonders, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. However, if the fuel and especially food shortages that some people are predicting begin to kick in this autumn, perhaps public mood may darken sufficiently to precipitate action. The Dutch public may support the farmers, but it is still very complacent, I'm sorry to say. I'm not keen for anyone to suffer hardship, but perhaps some empty shelves in the supermarkets this winter will sharpen peoples' minds.
Stop feeding cows GMO grain, let them eat grass and they'll stop farting g.
True, true. Love it!
"The government don't listen to us"...but of course, this is the government's strategy all over since all the shit started. The governments need the same treatment like in sri lanka or more. At this point there is no room for dialog.
Dialog is constructive as long as a worthy intention is declared. Declarations must be reviewed and renewed daily. Discipline is essential. Dialog is useful and ncessary when we create relevant contexts-goals-and strategize. Engage with others who feel as you do. Complicity is futile. Complaining is worthless. Design worthwhile actions and follow through. Carry on...pax
With all due respect, how did you come to the conclusion that I don't understand what is going there and how do you know what my goals are considering my comment? What about the "crucial" common things between these countries, like green policies. In Germany, Italy, Poland, farmers are protesting too against their climate-obsessed government. Till now only sri lankan made possible the resignations of the country’s president & prime minister. And yes, everything is the globalists goal and the countries will collapse one by one if people will not be united against them.
If you have definitive evidence for the reasons the barricade is being built around the WH--please post links and data points. I don't accept J6 as the only plausible reason for the barricade. There are many events afoot at present that may skew the J6 event context.
Righto. The J6 event and subsequent kangarro mock trial merely set the stage for further "lockdown" measures as the Governments around the globe collapse. However, I'm not so sure that 'continuity of government' measures are necessarily malevolent in nature.
Why the obsession with cows and their exhaust gases? Because of the horns?
Luke the Evangelist is symbolized by an Ox, which is a castrated bull, the male of the cow. A symbol of strength and perseverance. In the Gospel of Luke, one can read the Lord's Prayer. Domestic animals like cows have always been a great help for humans. They hate anything that is good for us. Like CO2, like Nitrogen, like water.
Friends, "They want to kill you."
Spread the word.
This is excellent, thank you for sharing this and some of the YT comments. I am particularly excited to learn that Dutch farmers achieved so much, apparently sustainably (?), that could easily be replicated elsewhere. It would be very healthy for the world if each nation could feed 100% of its people. Perhaps this desire, this ambition, will emerge as a consequence of the WEF goons pushing too hard, too fast and causing common sense to erupt, again and again, until it wins, all over the world.
Apparently the inmates are in charge.
It is horrifying and discouraging that over the decades that I have studied "natural agriculture" (or whatever is the name today) that the great wealth of information gained and the successful practices that were developed have come to this. The farmers want to produce food, they know how to produce food in a way that has no negative results, while the bureaucrats want to make obeisance to the effed ideas of the WEF and its spawn.
Gaia loves the Dutch! They taught us long ago, very long ago, the oceans were rising! We still cannot listen, though. Listen to the Dutch? What do they do besides milk chocolate? Oh, dear. It gets worse.
While I greatly applaud farmers in general, it appears we are overlooking what our nitrogen production has wrought. This is from Discover Magazine, 2001: https://preview.discovermagazine.com/environment/the-nitrogen-bomb
Much more has been written on this since then, but I personally note that we are now at 8B humans, give or take, and far past the carrying capacity of the planet, particularly with consumerism on steroids and now stripping the skin off our very planet. Search "harm from nitrogen fertilizers" if you want to learn more. As for Fritz Haber, there's this from Wikipedia: "During World War I, Fritz Haber led the Chemistry Section in the Ministry of War for Germany. In the midst of the war, Haber and several other scientists, including chemists, developed poisonous gases such as phosgene, chlorine, and mustard." Elsewhere, I read that his wife, a peace activist, committed suicide over this endeavor,
As a bio major, I wish I had focused on organic farming and permaculture when I was 20, now 55 years ago.
Politicians should wear the masks till the end of time.
For those of us who are US citizens--we need to connect with the Amish farmers and learn from their examples.
The land became a big hole,due to digging the peat moss for 1000 year.The shadow side of farming,based on extraction and export.