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Celia Farber's avatar

Well, as I said, it's not a good idea to scream "Free Palestine," or follow anything whatsoever that is Soros funded MK Ultra.

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Jinc's avatar

Great title, Celia! That premise of theirs is ABSURD, to put it mildly.

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Philip Mundhenk's avatar

You'd think people like that would realize they are hurting their own cause.

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Lex Rex, Esq.'s avatar

Ok boomer. Free Palestine, I guess.

Honestly, on October 8 I didn’t care. But after how many months … how many dead … how much money Isreal took from American taxpayers to kill a bunch of Palestinians … you made me a convert.

Jesus was a Palestinian. You killed Jesus. Jesus may forgive you, but I’m still a bit pissy.

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Sam's avatar

Palestinians were already locked up in the Israeli cage so why did Israel need to kill unarmed civilians that had no defense or anywhere to go to escape the bombings?

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Catherina's avatar

you live under a rock and just believe any story coming your way ................

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Sam's avatar

Well ain’t you smart? What a great rebuttal.

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Catherina's avatar

Well, ain't you smart to announce and think it is true.

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Catherina's avatar

Oh so the Jerusalm Post is an Arab publication .............. (It used to be the Palestinian Post .............. and the real Arabs would not touch the name 'Palestinian' till Yasser Arafat came along and lied because their god allows lies to non-Muslims ...............) Wow, and all these years I read Israel in the Bible, not Arabs. Must get new glasses ...........................

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Anita Söderman's avatar

I know, it is getting totally confusing with all these turns and twitichings, and negations not the least. Where is it heading?

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Catherina's avatar

I can recommend Joan Peter's book 'From Time Immemorial' , she made a thorough study, went to Israel extensively, had "Palestinians' (actually Arabs staying in the refugee camps) help her - the Christians did not the others - it is a very insightful compilation of the real history of the area, she found the reality was quite the opposite to her initial perception which was formed from the media propaganda. Most people do not know what the real history and reality is. (She had been so called 'debunked' by those with agendas)

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Psyche's avatar

Yes new glasses and a full EDUCATION … Jewish scholars could straighten you out 😂

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Catherina's avatar

Oh so the Jerusalem Post is an Arab publication, I never knew.

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Ellen Rixford's avatar

As soon as I began reading news about massive changes in public opinion on Zionist-led genocide in Israel I said to myself "A psyop is coming. Maybe a big one, maybe a lot of them.". The Zionist's big wet dream of a Greater Israel is in danger and they are desperate.

Remember how the VietNam war's failure, and the end of the draft endangered the ongoing revenue stream of the military industrial complex? Next big event...the massive pre-planned controlled demolition of the Twin Towers and Building 7 and the sacrifice of thousands of innocent Americans so the military industrial complex could have their Patriot Act, and the ensuing series of Middle East wars, based on propaganda lies.

Public opinion was beginning to turn against coerced vaccination, forced on school children as the requirement for public school. What followed? The massive psy-op of a pre-planned "deadly" Covid epidemic that only a "life-saving" vaccine could save us from.

Are we going to be stupid enough to fall for more psyops?

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Anila Jahangiri's avatar

I posted your comment on my Quora. Great comment!

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Ellen Rixford's avatar

Proud to read thisl

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Ellen Rixford's avatar

If only people had longer memories, and more skill at critical thinking!

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JSR's avatar

Yes, yes they are

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Jeff's avatar

100% agree. This whole shift of people "suddenly" becoming aware of Israel's genocide reeks of insincerity.

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Ellen Rixford's avatar

The phenomenon of "sudden awareness" is the rats leaving the sinking ship. I think what we may see will be a combination of psy-ops trying to shore up support for Israel's Zionist lie-theft-and-murder policies, and a desperate attempt by those shame-faced liars and bribe-takers supporting those policies to "distance" themselves from them. The reality of Israel is that from its very first moments, it was an intentionally apartheid state, racist, colonial, and based on the assumption that a homeland for one ethnic group could logically and justifiably be built on the destruction of another group's homeland. And the "extermination" of its "human animal" population.

The monstrous lie "A land without people for a people without a land" evidently assuming that Palestinians were not people, was the leitmotif for genocide and ethnic cleansing, and the "lebensraum" dreams of Zionists for "Greater Israel". "Lebensraum" was the Nazis' expression meaning "room to live"...more room, as the Third Reich gobbled up surrounding territory. The dream of Israeli Zionists is the same ...more and more expansion by force of arms into neighboring lands, supported by American money and weaponry. Israel as it now exists, with the government it now has, will continue to be an ongoing source of conflict and human suffering. Only when Palestine becomes a homeland where all have equal rights, and the right of return is based on the length of time one's ancestors and family has lived there...with exiled Palestinians first in line to return and late-coming settlers returning to their former homes, will Israel have peace. And only then will we in the rest of the world have peace, and some semblance of decent international relations.

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Anila Jahangiri's avatar

Ellen you write beautifully.

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James Lord's avatar

Just a short distance from: Free speech is equivalent to incitement.

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Daniel Peck's avatar

Talk about insidious propaganda, and ya jus' gotta love the hot pink!! 🙄

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MDickie's avatar

That is so crazy, I don’t even know what to say!

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djean111's avatar

Good grief.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Do people start to understand why I don't think the National Socialists got everything wrong?

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Renee Marie's avatar

“Gay Berlin”…draw the line😉.

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Turfseer's avatar

Substack Draft #2 – Not for Public Consumption

by Celia Farber

Note to Hackers:

First of all, congratulations. Despite my encrypted platform and multi-layered VPNs, you somehow got your hands on Draft #1—a document not intended for public consumption. I’m Celia Farber, and I do not deserve this. My friends depend on me to keep the Israel-Palestine discourse good and foggy. You have no idea how hard it is to keep the waters murky while still appearing morally lucid.

So please, I’m asking nicely: leave this one alone.

That said, since you’re probably reading anyway—fine. I’ll admit it.

That JewBelong ad got under my skin. Not because I believe it—but because part of me wonders why it made me so angry. Why I needed to post it, label it gaslighting, and dismiss it with a “Goodnight,” like some weary prophet signing off from a world that just doesn’t get it.

“Make no mistake. If you screamed ‘Free Palestine,’ you helped pull the trigger.”

I hate that sentence. I want to hate it. It feels like an accusation wrapped in trauma porn. It’s manipulative. It’s simplistic.

But also—it’s a little too sharp. A little too close to something I don’t want to touch.

Because what if they’re not wrong?

What if slogans do carry weight?

What if chanting “Free Palestine” in front of a Jewish school after Oct 7 isn’t harmless?

What if language isn’t antiseptic?

What if I’ve spent so long calling other people propagandized that I forgot to check what I’ve been breathing in?

I know the game. I signal nuance. I play the weary skeptic. I point at power and call everything downstream suspect. I never say I’m on a side—only that I’m against the one holding the leash.

But that’s a side, isn’t it?

And when I posted that ad with the line about “gaslighting,” I was trying to keep the mask on. I didn’t want to admit that, for a flicker of a second, I felt what it was trying to say. Not the literal accusation—but the weight behind it. The sense that someone’s grief was being dismissed before it could even breathe.

I’ve built a voice on doubt. But doubt can calcify too. It becomes armor. Then it becomes blindness. Then it becomes ritual.

And here I am. On Draft #2.

Still trying to spin it as style. Still trying to dance around something simple:

Sometimes, the people you’ve trained yourself to distrust… are actually telling the truth.

Please, hackers, don’t publish this one either.

I’m not ready to look at it in the light.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

What if the fucking Jews are mass murdering women and children (which they are.) Isn't that more consequential than what you are blathering about? D you have any self awareness?

Probably not, typical Jew.

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Catherina's avatar

wow, that is a filthy loud whisper. What about the elderly IDF soldier, crying, when he emotionally describes how they are putting themselves and their entire units lives at gigantic great risk because they meticulously go about, knocking on roofs even sometimes, to warn the civilians to evacuate as they would be in grave danger. I would like to know your extensive plan to how conduct a war in a 'refugee camp held by UN for decades' that was turned into a network of terrorist military terrain, built under and among coerced civilians (Parents aiding them by allowing weapons and entrances to tunnels in their kids bedrooms)? Any plan to issue Israel as I am sure you would not stay next to a terrorist military camp under the guise of a refugee camp (the refugee status to get the world to supply aid for the refugees, sorry for the terrorist network, that UNWRA facilitates to the poor refugees of decades...) Take note, WHO = UN, the UN changed the rules for being a refugee only for these Arabs who were chased into camps by Arabs, to only have been in an area for 2 years and when displaced, refugees. The rest of the world have to have been in an area for from time immemorial and when displaced can be refugees. So I whisper in your ear : you do not have the facts and show what is so common: blame the Jews .................... how heroic .................. P.S. and before you say anything, remember that Palestinians were the Jews, (Palestinian Post became the Jerusalem Post and the 2nd world war Palestinian battalion were Jews) the Arabs would not touch being named that till the turn speak of Yasser Arafat came along and used it to make the world believe the lies (Muslims are allowed, by their god to lie to non-Muslims) So these real Palestinians made the desolate desert bloom when many displaced ones - always saying 'next year in Jerusalem' for millennia - joined again those who were still in the area all those thousands of years, when afforded the chance to come back to their land. And the blooming desert attracted Arabs to the blooming desert as it was not so attractive living in their own areas. It is not always as it seems ..................................... and being propagandized ..................

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Mr. Raven's avatar

How about stop endlessly stealing land and living in peace with your neighbors you evil demonic pieces of shit? You are the aggressors, you are the ones with an open air concentration camp in Gaza. You are the ones who refuse to recognize your legal borders under international law at the 1967 green line. This is why literally billions of people around the world despise Jews and wouldn’t cry a single tear if every last one of you was exterminated. In fact it would be a great relief. No more AIPAC hijacking my government to fund YOUR evil vicious mass murder of women and children to steal their land.

Suffer and die Jew, it’s your destiny.

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Catherina's avatar

P.S. If you haven't surrendered to their religion of death yet, you are at war with them too .................... or if you have surrendered, you are warring against all non-Muslims ....................... get it!

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Religion of death? Serious? You are the one who is overtly pro child murder to steal the land of the people you murder. The evil, lying and overtly pro mass murder of women and children worldview of Jews knows no bounds. Your religion is pure evil, and Earth will know no peace until your religion is fully eliminated.

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Catherina's avatar

Oh so the filth whisper shouting has no plan for Israel to implement ..............

The desolate land was reoccupied by the Israelis who was given this land by the one true God and He said thousands of years ago that Jerusalem would be a cup of trembling for the people roundabout. The blooming desert as I explained, as you just spout filth without the facts, this blooming desert attracted Arabs and those were chased into camps by Arabs (the Arabs made war and was going to chase the Jews into the sea) and given 'refugee status' fraudulently by the UN and kept there by the UN/UNWRA while a terrorist network was built under and between and in the communities. Either you are one of those reiterating the lies or you do not know the facts and just shout filth and hate at others. Some background to understand why the world is lied to : https://www.ldolphin.org/msharon.html

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Mr. Raven's avatar

The plan is to fully dismantle the genocidal Zionist terror state. Have trials under international law for your leadership for crimes against humanity. And restore rule of the people who actually live there and if that means ejecting every single one of you foreign invader parasites, so be it.

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Jim's avatar

So sad that this shooting happened to an innocent young couple in DC. I wonder if it was for a different reason than Palestine.

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Scotlyn's avatar

Shootings are always sad. But it will provide "capital" for vested interests (but probably not Palestinian interests) for many years to come, by the looks.

Because, if you think of it, there is absolutely *nothing* that any Palestinian stands to gain from this shooting, so, whoever did it either had zero inclination to help Palestinians, or was extremely confused.

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Ro Dann's avatar

“Freedom” is “murder” I guess

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Scotlyn's avatar

Every "anti-choicer" has always said so, whether they are accusing the unarmed, non-hostile, proponent of bodily autonomy, of murdering babies or grannies...

Choice/freedom is murder, that seems to be the meat of it... every single time.

We advocate for freedom at our moral peril, it seems.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

All this kind of crap does is make me give the shooter a golf clap.

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Scotlyn's avatar

Apparently the meeting being held at the Capital Jewish Museum was on the topic of peace in Gaza.

The following are questions that any serious peace negotiator would naturally have, I think.

Has there been even a moment, at any time between 1896 and now, when those advancing the Israeli State Project ever stopped:

a. coveting Palestinian land?

b. actively stealing Palestinian land?

c. Killing, maiming, suppressing Palestinians who stubbornly continue to live on coveted land?

d. lying about the Israeli State Project's plans to keep stealing coveted Palestinian land, and killing those who will not co-operate by leaving?

(If there has been such a moment, I never spotted it. Anyone?)

How many of the Biblical 10 Commandments have to be broken daily to continue to advance the Israeli State Project? (I'm counting 4 so far - coveting, stealing, killing, lying. Have I missed any?)

And how are Palestinians actually supposed to *make* peace with Israeli State Project managers who never stop being busy coveting and stealing their land at gun[bomb/naphtha/drone]point? (I keep being told it is the Palestinians who break all the peace deals, but see above re their position in the ongoing land theft. At what point does anyone make peace with the thieves who are busy ransacking the house, and threatening the residents? I mean, peace is not the first thing I'd be looking for in that situation. You?)

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Charkate's avatar

Seems like no one can talk about anything anymore.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Not if we let the Jews silence us, we can't. Fuck that!

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zdb's avatar

Thank you. What happens when you take these themes and insert another group's name into them? Blacks? Catholics? Christians? Moslems? Satanists? Vegans? Gender confused? Is this another BLM?

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