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Carol Crevier, RN MPH's avatar

I found this essay in 2020 and still reread it every few months. The kingdom of darkness has only a few sad ‘plays’ (compared to the infinite creativity of God) and therefore it is possible to perceive the ‘reruns’. Thank you for posting this.

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Gavin's avatar

Incredible. Thanks for sharing. It is horrible to see that same nasty and vicious society emerging in the west. How unfortunate.

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Stegiel's avatar

Havel was no hero. William F. Jasper, senior editor of The New American, who has covered Havel’s career since the late 1980s, said that before we accept the beatification of Havel as Czechoslovakia’s great liberator, it might be worth doing some basic fact-checking concerning his record, and to heed the warnings of KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn, who accurately predicted the false, controlled “democratization” movements in the communist countries of Central and Eastern Europe.

Jasper pointed out that, contrary to the dominant media mythology surrounding Havel, the deceased Czech politician was key to the continued communist control of the principal Czech institutions after the vaunted Velvet Revolution supposedly swept the Communist Party from power.

Said Jasper: “Petr Cibulka and other genuine anti-Communist Czech patriots have provided detailed chronicles of Havel’s administration and crucial role he played in guaranteeing that, while the Czech Republic would adopt a surface image of liberal reform and democratization, in reality, the country’s most important power centers would remain in Communist hands.” Jasper noted that, with Havel’s knowledge and assistance, former Czech Communist Party leaders have continued to rule through new parties with different names. “Havel helped make sure that the judiciary, the legislature, the military, the police, the media, and the intelligence agencies all remained essentially in the same Communist Party hands,” said Jasper. “This was also the case with regard to the false ‘privatization’ he oversaw."

In his online journal Uncensored News, Cibulka has exposed the connections of the top 10 wealthiest men in the Czech Republic to the Communist Party and its secret police, the STB. “This connection has since been confirmed in reports by other Czech media,” said Jasper, adding that it is “a repeat of the same process that we have seen in Russia, Romania, Hungary, East Germany, and virtually all of the ‘former’ Communist states of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact. The oligarchs, the new ‘capitalist’ millionaires and billionaires, did not earn their vast fortunes through entrepreneurial effort. They became instantly wealthy by having Communist authorities transfer enormous state assets to their private control.”

Another noteworthy distinction in Havel’s curriculum vitae was his successful sabotage of efforts to uncover STB agents operating throughout the Czech society — especially those still in the government under Havel and beyond. “This is a pattern that we have seen throughout the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe,” said Jasper. “There has been no equivalent of the denazification program employed in Germany after World War II that rooted out Nazi Party officials and Nazi influence. With relatively few exceptions, ‘lustration’ efforts to expose Communist Party officials and Communist influence have been thwarted by agents or allies.”

In the Czech Republic, the individual most responsible for shielding the communists from exposure was Vaclav Havel. “After Petr Cibulka released the names and codenames of some 200,000 STB agents and collaborators, Havel denounced him and aided those who prosecuted and persecuted Cibulka,” recalled Jasper. “Czech historian Radek Schovanek, Czech authors Premysl Vachalovsky and John Bok, and others have likewise attempted to expose Havel’s role in covering for and aiding the communist continuity in the Czech Republic.”

And-https://www.hegaion.com/2012/11/facts-from-life-of-vaclav-havel-and-his.html

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Celia Farber's avatar

I was somewhat aware of this and can not at all dismiss it, nor can I "believe" it but I do, technically (I accept it is true.) I was there, in Prague, saw the crowds almost carry him to the stage to agree to become President, the "Havel Na Hrad" (Havel to the Castle) posters, their unbridled love for him…I made that the "story" and tended to look away from deeper darker truths about Havel. Was he bribed? Surely he wasn't always a fink. When people spoke of lies to my late friend Richard Kotlarz, he would listen calmly and then say: "So find the truth in the lie."

But what you say fits with what Vladimir Bukovsky wrote.

Nobody wants to believe what a PSY OP Gorbachev was. A truly evil man by the account of Gorbachev. But Havel did produce great writing about opposing tyranny. Does it lose value based on how he was later turned, apparently? I never know the answer to those questions. One does see a photo of Princess Diana and King Charles in the background of one if his interviews.

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Stegiel's avatar

Ab inito. See my bottom link for his family. East Bloc was very good with handling human agents. Havel was ambitious and well connected. Easy to explain his popularity-look at Trump. Havel in a sense borrowed the nimbus of Ginsberg - Kral Majales and that of Jan Palach. Petr Cibulka. How do you view President Vaclav Havel and his role in the so-called Velvet Revolution?

Havel's family used to be one of the richest families in Prague. They worked very hard and reliably for the Gestapo in World War Two. In 1945, after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Havel's family was not charged with collaborating with the Nazis. Almost immediately, it is believed, they began cooperating with Soviet military intelligence and also the KGB and therefore were protected by the communists.

Vaclav Havel himself signed up with the communist STB and was regarded as a totally reliable cadre. To this day the Communist Party and the secret police do not regret their decision to recruit Vaclav Havel.

http://www.jrnyquist.com/petr_cibulka_2003_0310.htm

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

"Havel did produce great writing about opposing tyranny." That is key. Take what we love from him, and leave the rest.

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Stegiel's avatar

:). Do as I say, not as I do. Hypocrisy sings well.

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Cl4ir3's avatar

Charter 77’s mission was to create an anti-communist concentration of “suitable” people who would assure that the changes in Eastern Europe would be controlled changes, orchestrated for the sake of the international communist struggle, which involves all communist parties, programs and front groups. Their main objective here is to mask a long-range approach that entails the liquidation of one phase of communism (i.e., Stalinism) for the sake of a new phase.

Vaclav Havel was part of that.

Organized publicity and advertisement of controlled dissidents, adjusting their public appearances to fit into specific legends, effectively turned them into heroes, martyrs, great writers, thinkers, politicians and statesmen devoted to democracy. To reinforce this process various literary awards were established and honorary degrees were given by Western universities. This approach, at its foundation, uses the same method as Hollywood when creating movie stars.

Read Miroslav Dolejsi’s analysis, presented here, proving the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe

was a perfectly executed Moscow organized communist fraud, a fraud that has been widely accepted

as a genuine change away from communism in Eastern Europe.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090725203722/http://www.anti-communistanalyst.com/Dolejsibio.html

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Castigator's avatar

Ah, the Velvet Transition ... On Was there a revolution/Was there not a revolution in Romania, an artful rendition is provided in the movie 12:08 East of Bucharest. It is representative of what happened elsewhere in the Soviet bloc, and beats most of Hollywood output hands down.

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Castigator's avatar

Having a while ago passionately discussed the (literary?) merits of Nabokov in this column, indelibly intertwining the man and the works, what if all those commenting punters took a closer look at the human merits of Mr. Havel?

He was a known philanderer, which would seem to be chicken feed nowadays, if it were not for a particular love affair that was seriously deep - to the point of pregnancy deep. Havel´s wife Olga was fully aware of the situation, and there were even discussions (within the triangular circle) of her adopting the prospective offspring and/or mutual care. Yet in the end the then dissident drove his lover into abortion. I say, Mr. Havel was a cad. Discuss, if you will.

As ex-president, his utterance on the registered partnership parliamentary bill ("gay marriage") went something like: "Family is not about bringing bulls and cows together to give birth to calves."

Marx wrote poetry, Havel drama ... so what? By their fruits ...

Please give me Nabokov, anytime.

Addendum: John Simpson to the Castle http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/3rd-december-1994/14/vaclav-vaclav

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Susan Siens's avatar

You need to stop thinking in terms of Communism and start thinking in terms of the ruling class. What happens when there is a so-called revolution? The rulers just put on new clothes and continue with the same behavior. I've read that the richest families in China are the same people who were the richest families prior to the 1949 revolution. Never get hung up in a particular ideology, especially when it bears no resemblance to actual communism; I could say the same thing about so-called capitalism in the West!

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Stegiel's avatar

Not so in Russia after the Bolsheviks. And that was a problem. China has large kinship groups and so some families had members survive. Really if we frame "ruling class" world communism is their tool for global tyranny as you see with WEF.

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Susan Siens's avatar

Are you really this gullible? The WEF is communist? That's the Joke of the Day! The WEF represents those who rule the West and all they are interested in is control of the plebians. As Patrick Lawrence wrote in a superb essay, Western capitalists are now finding that totalitarianism fits their agenda far better than the "liberal democracy" we supposedly live in. Having been politically conscious all my life with politically conscious parents, I am under no illusion that we ever lived in a liberal democracy.

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Stegiel's avatar

I see it very simply as a green cloak for a red one.

Bolsheviks were hired thugs of various plutocrats. Jacob Schiff being one.

Chinese Communism is as well. Mao was groomed by Yale in China. And Maurice Strong did all he could to help as well. Communism is an ad. Merely the ideological screen, and totalitarianism the aim. The French Revolution was hired too. "The truth of the matter is, that the Bastille operation was a British-run terrorist action set into motion by a group of British-Swiss secret service agents—Jacques Necker, Baron Besenval Bronstadt, Louis-Philippe Duke of Orléans, and Jean-Paul Marat—whose primary objective was to manipulate public opinion against, and eliminate, the friends of Benjamin Franklin: Jean-Sylvain Bailly and Gen. Marquis de Lafayette." https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/educ/hist/bailly.html

And the Jacobins planned to exterminate a large number of French. In my view WEF is one more globalist organization like Bilderberg, Mont Pelerin Society, Pilgrim's, and interlocked with corporate power in Vanguard, Black Rock, State Street and others. The globalists are totalitarian and aim for mass extermination. This is why they promote Green and not Red. See Bahro, From Red to Green. Or even https://gaertner-online.de/2009/08/11/greens-communist-origins/

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Cl4ir3's avatar

I think you are the gullible one. Or worse.

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Stegiel's avatar

Missed that little tell. :)

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Wild Flower 🐝's avatar

You rock...I love your brain and your bravado. I can’t wait for more. Bring it!

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Gary Weglarz's avatar

Stunning words from Havel. I'm going to save a screen shot. Thank you for sharing them Celia.

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Benj's avatar

Wow. That is spot on. Thank you for sharing it!

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Crixcyon's avatar

We have three choices...maintain our individual power and overcome, die while trying to maintain our power to overcome or give it up completely and be imprisoned by the slave masters.

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Saber 7's avatar

Reminds me of the movie “Lives of Others”. Set in Eastern Europe in the 50s

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The Inmate's avatar

I love that book. I wrote a review of it here back in June of '22.

https://theinmate.substack.com/p/the-power-of-the-powerless-by-vaclav

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George Jacobs's avatar

The power of the powerless is powerful indeed!

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Bandit's avatar

Coming to a neighbor near you.....or you.

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Owlshead5's avatar

That about sums it up.

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Dawn's avatar

WHOA!

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Larry Inn's avatar

At this point in modern history the capacity to doubt, to criticize and disobey may be all that stands between a future for mankind and the end civilization.

“The trees in the Forest were being cut down, but the Trees kept voting and paying taxes to the Axe. The Axe had cunningly convinced the Trees he was one of them, because his handle and heart were made of WOOD."

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Kyle Young's avatar

Havel may be best known for setting up parallel structures to bypass the corrupt, inefficient, official ones. This helped lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

We have begun that here. Local farmers markets are a great way to bypass the USDA and it's toxic food paradigm. Natural building bypasses the outrageously expensive, mindless, banker/builder paradigm. We need more. Decentralize, go local.

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

Did you ever think that, in Western Civilization, we would be living fear of our own governments, like those who lived in Soviet Russian or any Eastern Bloc countries? Once we thought we were free; now we understand that any government that wants to remain in power, regardless of its founding principles, will resort to totalitarianism to maintain its hegemony, heedless of the harm it brings to its citizens. We should have been more watchful, but we were so inundated by propaganda and commercialism that we didn't see what was coming.

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