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Freedom Fox's avatar

If by "Catholic" you mean "Luciferian" then yes, he was Catholic.

Lucifer has called him home. The smell of sulfur lingers.

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Celia Farber's avatar

This is such a difficult subject. I leave it to the Catholics. I mean—criticism of Catholicism is endless, but I'd rather let it be an internal dialogue between them. It's the world's biggest religion, by far.

I only mean to say we can't conflate the Luciferian NWO elements, (all that Malachi Martin and other Jesuit whistleblowers documented) with the faith itself, as it is lived by (what's the number?) people in the world.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I understand that. My comment is an overly broad brush. My characterization better applies to the institution, the Catholic Church itself; it is and has been a Luciferian deception for most of its existence. The broader Catholic community has been used, their faith and acts intended to serve The Lord have been used by the master deceiver, Lucifer, against God, Almighty. How to lift the veil from their minds about what really resides inside the Vatican is the challenge for servants of God. So that they may serve God's true designs and intentions for His greatest creations.

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Dawn B's avatar

It is not about questioning someone's belief but questioning the people who run the church and what they have done.

It doesn't diminish Catholic's or anyone else's faith in God.

The Bible says to test the spirits to see what they are.

Many evil deeds have been done in the name of God but they were wolves amongst the sheep.

If anyone gets mad, they are in denial. They hide things at the top of every religeous group.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Yes, it is a touchy subject. I try to refrain from posting unsettling comments, but there must be an awakening.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

My concession not made in my comment is that God uses all of us for His purposes. Often in mysterious ways that I cannot grasp. And that He can use evil for His purposes. Like allowing a Luciferian atop the largest, most powerful faith could serve His purpose of awakening followers.

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Sheila Dempsey, PhD's avatar

Freedom Fox, I agree with you in theory, but so many "followers" never awaken. They never question the authorities in their lives, and they prefer to follow.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

And so it is that I understand God's greatest gift to us is the gift of discernment. He gave us free will. Knowing that with free will we could choose to not obey Him, to be deceived by Luciferian forces that try to separate us from Him. But if He compelled our faith and fealty to Him then we would not be what He created us to be. Free. To make our own decisions. For good or bad. Decisions that bring us closer to Him, or ones that lead us away from Him.

Those who will never awaken have faulty discernment. They have rejected or have ignored their own capacity to discern. Lucifer is a master of deception. All God can do is provide the opportunities for minds to awaken. But He cannot compel they awaken. And He weeps for those who reject His offer of grace.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Enter Blackrock.

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dualistic Roger W.'s avatar

I trust the judgment of Judge Napolitano on Catholicism issues.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I know who he is..never listened to him.

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dualistic Roger W.'s avatar

He is associated with people who promote the return of Catholics to traditional Latin mass.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

He is on television. Even Fox is under the wicked. He works for the wicked. Who buy the advertisements that pay his salary. That's his top master, not God.

While the goodly may see the opportunity that being given a large audience provides to advance good, it involves negotiations with the masters of the stage they perform on. It is in those negotiations that they falter, as ALL men are prone to.

Napolitano was not forthright or principled with respect to pandemic mandates, the mania, with respect to the stolen election of 2020 or with much that we know Fox is a purveyor of false news. Fox is an outlet for the different wing, same bird of Luciferian information management and control, to harness the public mind into obedience. Controlled opposition.

I trust no man. Especially not men who's privilege, status and wealth is provided in service to the wicked, no matter how much he tries to rationalize and justify it as a negotiation he makes for a "greater good."

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Mooon's avatar

It’s a huge can of worms to open.

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

He said ALL roads lead to God - and in saying that - implies Jesus death was not of any significance

THAT is a BIG problem to many Christian’s and even Catholics

, as Christ says “I am the way, the truth and the Life, NO-ONE comes to the Father except through

Me.”…

John 14:6

I ask : was he even a believer of Jesus being Saviour?

Jesus died for EVERYONE - but He did not say ALL ROADS (ie religions) lead to God.

His words above are very clear.

Everyone has a choice to believe or not - we have free choice,

However a person is such a high catholic position like the Pope should’ve been very clear with doctrine from the Bible.

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Tomas Hull's avatar

I don’t think Catholics, or any other major religion members, want to debate their church’s dogma or dirt.. They are in for an easy fix; a religious Swedish Buffet—pick and choose what you like and hope for the best…Amen

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Agree, dude was evil as it gets. I first read a bio of him years ago. Wow.

I don't like Jesuits in general. Top tier Masonic luciferians.

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Geoffrey Bastin's avatar

By Catholic I mean Universal. You can be Anglo Catholic and or Roman Catholic.

The Roman Catholic Church is referred to as a religion but I prefer to call it a cult just as all the other denominations should be so classified.

Religion is faith and as the ideas and standards change, as they have done under this Pope, so those that keep their faith are unaltered. Any Pope can proclaim a modern version to suit the Globalists of the day but the faith of the many can not be adulterated on a whim.

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Older and Wiser's avatar

I went to 12 years of Catholic schooling (still has waiting list every year) and I am in my 70's. Looking back and having learned the truth, the Church as an institution is a mafia that forms a "cult" "following" which is actually a psychological programming just like a cult. In the book "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception' (1979?) the authors reveal a two letter exchange by two of the DSS experts studying the ancient documents. One, in Jerusalem and near finishing his work, wrote to the other to say "I am considering a theological position with the church". The other, in Britain I recall, wrote back: "I wouldn't worry about taking that theological position. When I am done examining the documents, the church will no longer exist."

Was that because of what was in the little known ancient papyrus documents called "The Essene Gospel of Peace" the 2nd of which was found in the DSS (1947+) but the first was found (a copy) in 1923. Where? In the "secret archives of the Vatican" by one Dr. Edmond Bordeaux Szekely and another man.

Szekely wrote that the Vatican/council of Nicean had that copy in the 3rd C.E. AD and it was never made widespread public for 1700 years.

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Suzanne O'Keeffe's avatar

I met this DSS scholar many years ago now at a lecture about his then recently published book. His lecture and evidence was compelling and it certainly pushes everything we've been told about the origins of the whole religion into a unyielding light. Several of us stayed after the lecture for a long time peppering him with questions. Was truly fascinating.

"Eisenman makes compelling arguments that James not Peter -- whoever he was and however he existed -- and certainly not Paul, was the true heir to his brother Jesus and the Leader of early Christianity everywhere."

(This edition is a more reader-friendly format than the original.)

https://www.amazon.com/James-Brother-Jesus-Dead-Scrolls/dp/0985599138

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FuckTheMandates's avatar

Regarding this luciferian pope, I contemplate just how deep and wide globalists reaches have been!

UGH!

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Christianity is the largest religion in the world, 31%+.

Within Christianity 49% are Catholic, 40% are Protestant.

While the Catholic Church was headed by an Atheist/Luciferian, the largest religion in the world, the Protestant Church is still headed by an Atheist/Luciferian:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1008027/Prince-Charles-news-abdication-king-charles-religion-later

https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2018/05/24/the-difficulties-with-crowning-king-charles-iii

And I don't think Charles renounced his Atheism. And would never announce his Luciferianism, as Jorge never did.

How's that for deep and wide?

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FuckTheMandates's avatar

There’s the sound reason of this adage: religion is the opium for the people. IMO, all organized religions are opium in one way or another.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Actually had the opportunity to smoke some opium a number of years ago. I found it to be a very pleasant “high”, over all the other “mind altering substances” I engaged in over the course of my young adult life. I can totally see how many became “opium addicted” back in the day.

The idea of “religion as the opium for people”, that “type of opium” is no where near as pleasant as partaking in the real thing.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I'll massage that 'organized' into 'corporatized.' It is the bigness of religion that is its downfall. The adage power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely applies. The bigger things are the more power accrues at the top in leadership. Big Church. Big Government. Big Pharma. Big Corporate. Big Green.

The solution is local, local, local. Much is gained in community, commune with fellow believers. Congregating in faith takes the energy and power of faith and exponentially increases its ability to positively impact a community. I won't deny that. But this happens on an X-Y curve with increasing size increasing corruption. That eventually crosses lines to where size, bigness becomes a marker for corrupted power within. Staying local is how any religious body can stay true to its foundational principles in alignment with God's designs. Beyond local the corrupting nature of power becomes the milieu for Lucifer's temptations to corrupt. And deceive followers of God into following his fallen wickedness.

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FuckTheMandates's avatar

Agreed wholeheartedly!

My cynical answer is a benevolent dictatorship for the mass that’s human beings! For I’ve seen and participated in small “local” political arenas that were filled with corruption and nefarious individuals.

Though, there were historical examples of benevolent autocratic leaders…, sooner or later, absolute power corrupts absolutely!

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Of course. The local man isn't immune to the corrupting nature of power. But the smaller the realm of power the less corrupting it is. And the ability of a corrupt local man to harm others is limited to their locale. Stinks for those in it. But the cancer doesn't spread.

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FuckTheMandates's avatar

From the medical angle, opium is the “cleanest”. Too bad it’s also highly addictive.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I think your reply is meant for Frontera.

Though on the subject of opium I'll note its usefulness for explaining the concept of "hopium." The dissemination of false hope to numb the masses into a belief we will be protected, that others are coming to save us. Staying in pleasant bliss instead of realizing our lives and souls demand we endure discomfort to survive the attacks our "dealers" are inflicting on us.

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Older and Wiser's avatar

FF I agree with your position. Return to the comments and see my "Older and Wiser" post with my holistic experiential perspective.

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GeriGR's avatar

I was raised in a very Italian Catholic home in NJ. I couldn't wait to leave Catholicism. Maybe it was the church we attended that made me uncomfortable, uneasy and confused about the religion. The priest that ran the church was the most miserable, angry and scary man. He screamed at my father after confession for not having confessed in decades. He'd pull children out of the communion line for not holding their hands the correct way. He berated my brother when he was just a little boy for being late to Sunday school (it was my mom's fault he was late). My mother stopped going to mass when the sexual abuse scandals hit the press. Nothing about my experience was based on God's and Jesus' message of love. The death of this Pope means nothing to me as he represents everything wrong with this religion.

I have come back to God but in a way that isn't based in religious dogma or church services. I know God is all love and that my relationship is between him and me. And it never felt so good.

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Donna Ruth's avatar

There are good priests, bad priests, good bishops, bad bishops, good popes, bad popes.

My experience as a Catholic returnee to the faith is that most priests rise daily, say Mass, hear confessions, offer instruction, visit schools, comfort the sick and grieving, visit hospitals, prepare couples for marriage, counsel the troubled, baptize, anoint the dying in the middle if the night, attend endless parish meetings, maintain the parish building, say funerals + + +. They are unsung heroes who comprise a large portion of the priesthood. Of course, we always hear about the bad apples who bring mayhem and scandal to all. The vast majority of priests quietly and faithfully go about their job.I have been blessed to know many in my 75 years. Deo gratias.

Was this a bad pope? Many will say yes, and I include myself in agreeing with this summary. As a returnee blessed with a deep reversion, I immersed myself in Sacred Scripture, the Catechism, encyclicals, good Christian books, talks, videos, and more. I studied and prayed myself into the heart of Christianity in the last 45 years. I love being Catholic. Having known my faith, I, like many others were gobsmacked when we began hearing troubling statements from this pontiff. Early on we tried to make excuses: oh, he was just misquoted; there is a language difficulty here … But as the years went on, faithful Catholics were stunned repeatedly by his departure from Church teaching.

Is he permitted to hold private opinion? Of course. But in saying his “Accipio” in the conclave on the day he was elected in 2013, he agreed that he knew his job as pontiff was to uphold and safeguard the teachings of the Church. Just as those who know classical music, know when there are musical clunkers, so, too, do Catholics who know their faith are aware of the many wonky notes that came from this papacy. In a word, it was a scandal. He was CEO of a 2000 year old church and sought to remake it in the image he had for it.

If he had issues, then he should have nobly resigned and started his own church. That has been the process over the years, now with 45k+ Christian denominations in North America.

May God rest his soul. He said he wanted to “make a mess” and he did, whether from ill will, ignorance, or genuine belief he felt he knew best. I am not the judge of his interior soul. May we be granted a new pope who will stabilize us and preach the Gospel with fresh passion.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Most priests required masks, the concealment of faces before God is an ungodly act. Most pushed "vaccines" denying God's natural immune system he equipped us with to survive this world he delivered us into. Most closed their doors, defying God's Law to their flock in obedience to Man's Law, until Man gave them permission to open them again. Despite the Constitutional guarantees of separation of Church and State. Most refused to hold weddings, funerals, refused to perform Last Rites. Most push preferred pronoun and LBGTQ Satanic propaganda, obeying laws of men.

Yeah, no. Whatever renewal you may imagine is happening in the Church, no matter how much a "bad pope" is blamed, THEY obeyed Luciferian-inspired Man's Law, even in a nation that explicitly recognizes the Church is sovereign in such matters. NO priest who bowed to Lucifer during the pandemic, who bows to Lucifer's desecration of God's perfect creation, who say "sometimes God makes a mistake putting little boys into little girl's bodies" and abets Lucifer can be trusted or legitimate servants of God. Find me the handful who remained devout and faithful to both God and Catholicism and I will show you who could be qualified to lead The Church back into God's loving grace. Good luck with that. It is a fallen institution, corrupted beyond repair. More than the tables need to be overturned, as was done by Jesus.

The *institution* of the Catholic church must be razed. So that the faith may be renewed by true and faithful servants to God, Almighty. And I submit that must be done at the local level. Power corrupts absolutely. The vast powers of a single global church unavoidably, and impermissibly corrupts its leaders. For a community to genuinely come together in faithful service to God it must remain small, local. Big Church, Big Government, Big Pharma, Big Corporate, Big Green, etc are all where/how power corrupts leaders. Think local. Act local. Reject Global. Save Catholicism from Catholic, Inc.

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J.P.'s avatar

Never been a better time to be Anabaptist!

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Amen to all that!🙏🏼💓

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Sheila Dempsey, PhD's avatar

GeriGR, I can identify.

The Catholic church of my youth was not a warm and welcoming place. My sister and I attended weekly catechism class for years where we were required to memorize the dogma and rules of the religion. There was no talk of love that I can remember and questions were not encouraged. The classes just filled me with fear and guilt. My most salient memory from them was the terror I felt at age 10 when the nun looked into my eyes and told me that if I didn’t return the confirmation robe the following week she would “skin me alive.”

The only love I knew at that church was the love that I shared in my teenage years with the cats who lived around the church. They would follow me up the stone steps of the church to be petted and loved. On one occasion a cat who was not happy that I had left her to go inside meowed so loudly and plaintively at the side door of the church that she started to disturb the parishioners, although some did smile. I had to slip outside to quiet her down and I happily remained with her until the service was over. When I let it hit home that I preferred to spend time loving the kitties rather than listening to a love-less sermon I knew it was time to leave the church. I was 16. At age 30 I had mystical experiences of God as pure, overwhelming love. Nothing has been the same since.

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Older and Wiser's avatar

GeriGR, I raised my family in Mo'town 25 years. Note that Jesus Christ, in the little known "The Essene Gospel of Peace" (two ancient papyrus documents, proven to be from the 1st C.E. AD AND the Palestine area - 2 copies) spoke about how the best time to connect with our spiritual father is in the hour before sunrise, outdoors, ideally amongst the trees. In that Gospel, a man asked Christ "Which laws of life should be follow, that of Moses and Scriptures, or that of which you preach?" Christ's response included "those are dead words of dead men." In one sentence Christ discounted the perspective of earthly spiritual "leaders". Here is an online copy (note it has a few typo's)

https://media2-production.mightynetworks.com/asset/50819821/Sz_kely__E.B._-_The_Essene_Gosel_Of_Peace__1_.pdf#_gl=1*1csly6s*_ga*ODE4NDM0NDg4LjE3MjQ2OTc0OTU.*_ga_T49FMYQ9FZ*MTczNDk4NDc0My4xMDkuMS4xNzM0OTg0ODA3LjAuMC4w*_ga_NEGJ2SXNP7*MTczNDk4NDc0My4xMTAuMS4xNzM0OTg0ODA2LjYwLjAuMA

The source: https://joyful-life-community.mn.co/about

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Kathleen Benson's avatar

I was also raised Catholic and was turned off from the religion because all the priests and nuns were so unhappy and mean. There are terrible stories of physical abuse from this time period in my diocese.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I so agree about your experience with the Catholic Church. And though I too was raised Catholic , it was in a Church and with a kind Catholicism that was rooted in the Mexican Catholic Church. I grew up on US Mexico border, so the Catholic Church didn’t have those strong Italian leanings. The Virgen de Guadalupe was a big player in my Catholic community.

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Lisa Sarenduc's avatar

Your restraint is generous, looking forward to post-restraint!

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

What Can One Say! PM Meloni visited the white house last week. JD VANCE had to travel a few days later to Rome to Meet PM Meloni! ( Didn't Vance & Meloni Meet up in DC!? ) Also After Meeting Meloni, Vance Met up with Vatical Top Officials.... ( Move along, Nothing to do with Re-Immigration / Trafficking news & Federal Funding rumors & Other Stories! It was just hand shakes and Cakes ) AND Vance, whilst in ROME didn't visit The Pop? at the hospital? OR at his reesidnce to wish him well? or Kiss his hands? or express his well wishes? Oh No... even though ostensibly, The Pope had resumed "SOME" Duties... !? & then JD Vance leaves Rome & a day or day & a hald later, The Announcements that the POP has passed away...!! Millions of people, might smell a fish, But I do NOT!

I think it's all just a conicidence that Vance didnt see maloni in DC , Just happen to go to Rome & saw her, didnt see The Pope who had resumed some dutied but saw the head cardinal... left & the Pope died!.... Oh ... & if I was a conspiracy theorist, or a novel writer, I might also have had a theorty that Maybe the POPE had already passefd away!??? OR Figured out as to why JD Vance did NOT see Maloni & had to got o ROME so quickly afterwards to see her( or see her again & see the Cardinal In Charge!!! ) ... But I am not a conspoiracy Lover... My philosophy is..... Shhhh.... Move along.... what ever the BBC says RULES OKAY!

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KrazyKanuck's avatar

Reminds me of Queen Elizabeth's death only 2 days after a public meeting with Prime Minister Liz Truss. Coinkydink 🤔

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

The Mind Buggles.

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tRuth's avatar

Brilliant!

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

Funny Ol World....

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tRuth's avatar

And Schwab resigned from his very own creation on the exact same day we are expected to believe all this occurs.

I’m neither conspiracy theorist or author of novels, however, I’m known to give opinions based on apparent news, my memory also serves me well, aiding reaching the truth or realisation of lies and mind control.

Aided by the fact, I stayed in the Swiss capital (for work purposes), and the fact my Catholic mother in law passed away within a few days of the then pope in April, Easter time, 2005.

Apologies, I forget to say, my memory fails me, with names of many historical figures, but I think my son mentioned Pope John Paul 2nd.

So why are the hidden globalists removing their puppets. Guessing Tony Blair is sitting in hope of enhancing his ‘career’.

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

God & Faith has No place for these folks. They want God out of our lives & replaced my CEOs who run Tech companies. CEOs of BANKS ( Bansters ) & other earthly monsters. & Indeed, I will not be surprised if Blair takes a role in WEF!

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tRuth's avatar

Definitely! B-liar, possibly Thatcher’s bigger success story. Never forget what occurred here in middle-England in the 1980’s, all at her heist (or was the handbag just a part of the illusion 🤔) and the ruination of creative and proud community networks. Yes! The dosing of water, especially during the water board strikes areas where the striking miners lived. “Oh sorry for the inconvenience, take your carrier to the tankers to obtain your ‘clean’ drinking water”.

The sun is shining here today! The creator is at his best for us. ☀️🙏

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

Amen

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Deenzy's avatar

I was bought up Roman Catholic, went to Catholic schools & a Jesuit run high school. The institution never sat right with me & that was long before I knew about the pedo revelations. I don’t understand how Catholics can look at the obscene wealth & power coupled with now overt Luciferianism of The Vatican and square that with the teachings of Jesus. I’m obviously not talking about Catholics themselves or many of the priests & clergy who are no doubt decent people, it’s The Vatican itself

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

The Catholic Church Inc is WEALTHY BEYOND your imagination.

And those high walls and private Swiss guards don’t let the riff raff in - open borders only apply to thee not them.

They have their own laws in their own little country inside of Italy .

Not a humble institution. It’s political influence is huge.

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dualistic Roger W.'s avatar

He has an air of Napoleon in that picture, hehehehe.

The next pope should be a Franciscan monk, and choose the name Ignatius, and speak well of Putin, just to drive everyone completely crazy.

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KrazyKanuck's avatar

This is one Catholic that will not mourn this Pope's passing. I'll leave it up to God to judge Jorge Bergoglio if it was even him.

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

As a former catholic I enjoy reading the articles from this catholic website who seem balanced in their reporting.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/ They are based in canada

I really like reading what Archbishop VIGANO writes about.He was ex communicated by this now deceased Argentinian pope.

I wonder if they will allow him back

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/archbishop-vigano-freemasonry-seeks-to-destroy-everything-through-permanent-revolution/

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KrazyKanuck's avatar

Agree 💯 %.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Timing is very sus. I mean, day after the Resurrection? The luciferians like to time these things, if the death is ritualistic. Just sayin'.

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dualistic Roger W.'s avatar

Yes. I think they extended his "life" to match certain astrological configuration that has happened today. I don't know why they do these things, but it's not the first time they abuse a dying slave and prolong their agony. Perhaps Bergoglio could have died naturally a month ago, but that was not the script. This month, it's time for big financial collapses and surprises, according to the script. Just think that the "Pope" is also a finance administrator of the World Corporation.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I've read - for years - that it's to fulfill certain rituals. What you say is exactly what I was thinking they were probably doing.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Oh Agent Roger W “into astrology” are you?😉🤔

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dualistic Roger W.'s avatar

Yeah, I like astrology. I take it as comedy, for the most part. The other part is that it is one of those “hidden in plain sight” things they do often. The “coincidences” in numbers, dates, positions, and other things are, for me, not mere coincidences: they wait to do things in a specific date, for some wierd reason that only them understand.

In the case of the official (but perhaps not real) time of death of Bergoglio, the chart for that moment looks hand-picked.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Actually if you really get into it, it is far more than comedy. And it ‘foretells’ things to come. It’s just that most people look at it like those silly “astrology columns” that proliferated newspapers back in the day.

If you know the “astrology chart” of a person, of a country, or what have you, like one’s Sun sign, Ascendent and Moon sign being the three significant aspects to look at as well as what “houses” of their chart that these placements are in, this information can provide little ‘snapshot” of their personality and how they navigate in life.

And yes countries, places and even events can have a “chart” that significantly gives one insight about those places. They too, have a “birth chart” based on time of birth or origination, and a “progressed chart” which is reflective of their current state.

Currently aspects of the ‘chart’ of The United States of America that were happening in 1778 and years beyond (think American Revolution), those same ‘aspects/transits’ are happening again in 2025. As well as a few other significant “planetary transits” that are in the mix.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Yes, astrologers know what is going on…and perhaps whomever “handpicked” Borboglio’s death to be today or it was predestined in his chart. There are certain methods of astrology like Vedic astrology, than can predict when one will cross over.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

It sounds more like he recognizes that the PTB are.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

But I kinda think it was “predestined” in his chart. How and when his death was likely to come.

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J.P.'s avatar

Not just, was also the first day of satanic Grand Climax 2025.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

😂😂😂😂

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Dennis Gagne's avatar

That pic of him riding a in a bus with his hand in his shirt makes me wonder….was he a mason, it wouldn’t surprise me.

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Sheila Dempsey, PhD's avatar

It IS a classic Freemason pose.

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

Yes! It’s a BIG club and most people who “make it” into positions of power belong to it.

Just look at how often Fauci (Jesuit) put his hand INSIDE his coat over his heart.

That is in the mason manual of hand signals. Look up the many books on Albert Pike.

The 666 and the TRIANGLE hands (even Trump and Musk continually make) is another.

Stalin did it, and many others you’d never suspect were Free masons.

Once you know how they signal you can’t unsee it when you watch the news or see them do it in photo ops.

The thing to remember is that their allegiance is to each other - not you, and they take an oath of secrecy .

Secrecy should never be acceptable to the people they are governing - JFK made a famous speech about this exact PROBLEM just before he died.

He condemned a “secret society” group that was trying to influence and control USA from the background and he wanted it to stop.

The Bilderberg group, Davos group, CFR, UN and others are all similar and connected institutions that contribute to the present and past social chaos they architect for their own benefit.

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Older and Wiser's avatar

I disagree with the need for restraint. The world renowned psychiatrist, Dr. M. Scott Peck said decades ago: "At the root of all mental illness IS the denial of the truth." - and that can be self-inflicted or denial by others. I grew up Catholic - 12 years of Catholic School that 50 years later, still has waiting-list demand to get in. But I knew of pedophilia before I ever learned the word. Not a victim but close. There was talk.

Leo Zagami told Alex Jones, on camera (2019?) that "The Vatican is at the center of child-trafficking worldwide." And Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano wrote TWICE to DJT (around 2019/2020) and told him "There is a great evil in the Church." Vigano was a Nuncio (rep to the USA) for both popes Francis and Benedict. Imagine what he knew. And recently Actor Mel Gibson has a few videos concurring with Vigano! This is what Catholics need to know.

Decades ago, I knew a woman who was a new PhD Clinical psychologist. Thru her PhD program she got a request from a Catholic Convent - to assess the psychological state of women in that convent (I don't remember how many but around 10). She did the interviews and assessments and afterwards knowing I was Catholic and had been in Catholic Schools/Churches, she came to me in quite a distraught state. She asked for me (who also had extensive psychology background) to do a sanity-check (excuse the pun) on her findings. In short, she found all of the women to have serious psycho-pathologies - sociopaths/no empathy. She had trouble believing her own findings and asked ME if that seemed possible. I told her I was not surprised at all. Who knows what happens to these poor young INFLUENTIAL girls when the "center of child trafficking" brings them "into their fold" because they "have a calling from God."

This is what all people (adults) must face and especially Catholics. "There is a great evil in the Church" and in my experience and opinion it's always been that way. Why did the Vatican and the Council of Nicea reject the ancient papyrus document ("The Essene Gospel of Peace" it is now called) from inclusion in the Bible and lost it for 1700 years? Answer: "There is a great evil in the Church." The ancient historian of that era and location, Josephus, wrote about Christ and said "The Essenes are long lived (120 years of age) and NEARLY DEVOID OF ILLNESS." They were outliving Roman citizens by 30 to 50 years. This is not unique. The Cherokee Indians had elders that were 150 years of age "and still quite active" - according to a British Lieutenant (H Timberlake) who lived with them in 1762.

When the first of these two known ancient documents was found in the secret archives of the Vatican, in 1923 by Dr. Edmond Bordeaux Szekely and another man, WHY didn't this finding rock the world. And in 1947, when the 2nd ancient document (same wording) was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, why didn't the Vatican LEAD the effort to reveal and promote this far and wide saying: "This is the first person writing of Christ's words by Essene people who were 'long-lived and nearly devoid of illness."

The answer is they do not want us long-lived and nearly devoid of illness. They want us injured, unhealthy and dead. Right Drs. Fauci, Birx, ....?

Wasn't it Christ, in Matthew 18:6 who advocated that: it is better that one be tossed into the sea, tied to a heavy millstone, and drowned than for THAT person to cause a child to stray away from goodness? It appears that Christ advocated both murder or suicide to prevent the infliction of evil onto/into a child. If an archbishop, whose bosses were two popes, says "there is a great evil in the church" - I say let's only mourn all of the children whose lives were terribly affected by those who caused them to stray. "The Vatican is at the center of child-trafficking" - Leo Zagami - for centuries?

In psychology, psycho-pathology begets psycho-pathology. Just as evil begets evil.

NO mourning by me, a former Catholic. I want full disclosure and full retribution per Christ's alleged words in Mathew 18:6

IN "The Essene Gospel of Peace" Christ Himself said that the best way to connect spiritually with our Spiritual Father (God) is in the hour before sunrise, outside - ideally amongst the trees. I add that Christ said that "exposure to air (oxygen) is an ANGEL of healing..." from our Earth Mother. As is physical contact with the earth (barefoot). Christ was asked by a man (per this Essene Gospel) "Which laws of life should we follow - that of Moses and the Scriptures of that of which YOU preach?" Within His response, Christ said "Those are dead words by dead men....Learn the laws of life by living life." Christ discounted in one sentence all religious leaders and their writings.

Was Christ not trusting of humans? He promoted an individual relationship with God - not one managed and controlled thru churches promoting dead words of dead men. And asking for money.

A community that promotes this Gospel is: https://joyful-life-community.mn.co/about. Here is the link to an online copy of this gospel (note someone has said there are a few typo's which apparently were not caught in editing).

https://media2-production.mightynetworks.com/asset/50819821/Sz_kely__E.B._-_The_Essene_Gosel_Of_Peace__1_.pdf#_gl=1*1csly6s*_ga*ODE4NDM0NDg4LjE3MjQ2OTc0OTU.*_ga_T49FMYQ9FZ*MTczNDk4NDc0My4xMDkuMS4xNzM0OTg0ODA3LjAuMC4w*_ga_NEGJ2SXNP7*MTczNDk4NDc0My4xMTAuMS4xNzM0OTg0ODA2LjYwLjAuMA

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As a side note…Is the Edmond Bordeaux Szekely you refer to, the same Edward Szekely who would go on to marry a woman Deborah in NY? They headed west and they would establish, in 1940, the health and fitness spa Rancho La Puerta in Tecate, BC Norte Mexico? Which has been in business since then, in Baja CA Norte. Deborah then founded the high end spa in Escondido, CA, The Golden Door as well.

Indeed he is one and the same!

“In 1939, Szekely married Brooklyn-born Deborah Shainman, whose mother was a past vice-president of the New York Vegetarian Society. In 1940 the couple opened a camp in Tecate, Baja California, Mexico, which they named Rancho la Puerta, where they could explore and test their ideas. The couple had two children, Alexander and Sarah Livia. Edmund Szekely continued his research, writing numerous books and conducting seminars all over the world.”

“In 1970, Szekely and his wife divorced and he retired from Rancho La Puerta to go live near Orosi, Costa Rica . Szekely married Norma Nilsson, a long-time assistant and focused on his writing and teaching. He dies in 1979.”

“Szekely was a raw foodist and vegetarian who advocated "biogenic living". His diet consisted of 75% "biogenic" foods such as whole grains, nuts and seeds and "bioactive" raw fruits and vegetables.”

“He recommended a raw food diet, hydrotherapy, breathing clean air and bathing in sunshine.”

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I say "Yes" but only in that I know with certainty that Szekely and his wife ran a health resort in CA - following Christ's words from that Essene Gospel of Peace (maybe not 100% because it is NOT easy to transition to).

And odd element of this entire story is that Szekely did not live a long life (74 years) like the Essenes who were living to about 120 years on average. So I wonder if Szekely himself had trouble with that uncooked vegetarian diet. It's not easy but I'm fairly close to 100%. The internet says his wife is age 99 and still lecturing at that camp.

I am in my mid 70's (male) and follow Christ's wisdom of not eating after sunset and I eat VERY little meat and much of what I eat is not cooked or partly cooked. I am a freak of health mainly because I never eat anything too close to or after 4PM. The body adjusts in days/weeks so now it's normal. See the youtube interview of Dr. Satchin Panda (Salk Inst) in 2016 by Dr. Rhonda Patrick. He explains the science of why "WHEN you eat is more important than WHAT you eat." SO TRUE.

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Deborah Szekely was 102 as of 2024.

She lives in San Diego where I live. I have met her a few times years ago.

https://fortune.com/well/article/102-year-old-rancho-la-puerta-owner-on-longevity/

Her son Alexander passed away years ago, but I believe her daughter and grandchildren are still in a charge of and run the health and fitness spa, ‘Rancho La Puerta’ in Tecate, BC Norte, Mexico. I have been to Rancho La Puerta, a number of times in the mid to late 80’s. Tecate is a few hours to the east of San Diego in the mountains.

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So "cool" that you went to the Spa and got to meet her. A legend that few know of. I firmly believe that when The Essene Gospel of Peace is well known, it will unite much of the world around "The Way, The TRUTH and the Life (that results from TRUE/God's health wisdom). I say that because 2 years ago, I played golf (all of us in our 70's) with 3 strangers. One man asked me how I looked so fit and healthy and played so well (and I was NOT playing the SENIOR tees like they were). I briefly said "My #1 health routine is I never eat after 4PM because eating too late causes terrible inflammation ALL THRU THE NIGHT." They had no questions/comments. ONLY FOUR WEEKS later one of those men saw me on that golf course and started screaming like a crazy person. I almost started running. He told me this: "I listened to what you said and stopped eating that day by 4PM - like you do. I am age 73 and a Type II diabetic, taking insulin often for 20 years. I have tried everything - every diet, fad, etc. all to no avail. SO I figured 'what do I have to lose. I stopped eating by 4PM THAT DAY'." Then he broke down in tears and said "I am here to tell you that my glucose this morning was 78 (normal is <80) and I can't tell you how long it's been seen I have seen such a low number. I now believe I will be getting off these drugs and living a much better life than I had feared." He re-iterated: 'I changed just one thing. I sometimes cheated on the diabetics diet like I have always done" IN the first week, his AM glucose test EACH morning was slightly lower than the prior morning. A steady constant decrease.

And in that Gospel of the Essene Christ said that our "first meal should be with the sun at it's highest.... and the second meal (final) is with the setting of the sun. No late eating.

Sadly THe problem is humanity itself. I have told the above and my story to over 120 people who know me. Only that one man above changed his life. As the old psychology says goes: "People don't change until they have run out of options."

Take care.

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Another thing is I tell people who are my age and are on all manner of “prescription medicines” that they should try and get off of them and see how they feel. Because they feel like crap from all the meds they take! But they have been told by their ‘doctors’ that they will likely have another heart attack or stroke, if they go off their statins! And they don’t want to consider that their doctor is slowly killing them with these meds!

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Thanks for the correction that you met Ms Szekely but not at the spa. What I do Is a "time-restricted" eating discipline but I refer to it as time-of-day related. I want to be very specific in case you pass this on or someone reads this thread of comments.

Dr. Satchin Panda (Salk Inst) proved (God's design) that if you have any "excess circulating glucose (ECG)" at sundown - then the melatonin produced during sunset signals the pancreas (exactly when I don't yet know but by sundown for sure) NOT to release insulin - which would've been used to remove that ECG fairly quickly. Instead that ECG causes inflammation, first to the one cell THIN endothelial lining of ALL blood vessels. And then it can spread to surrounding tissue including the brain. Medical science KNOWS that the blood-brain-barrier cannot protect the brain "from inflammation coming via the blood." So a person who time-restricts their eating to, say, 12 noon to 8PM, WILL CERTAINLY produce inflammation after sundown and ALL THRU the night. An elite runner/friend (nationally ranked as a senior) tried this ONE-TIME. He stopped eating by 4PM the night before a critically important, national-qualifying 10K race. This seasoned athlete (age 65 - runner for at least 55 years competitively), could not believe the result. He not only qualified for that national 10K competition - he said "It was effortless." So "effortless" that when he reached the official halfway 5K point/marker, his 5K time then would have also qualified him AGAIN for the National 5K alone. He was manic with results that were incomprehensible from his 55+ years of competitive running - from ONE time not eating late. So I explained that he had likely had no or very low inflammation from NOT eating late so his endothelial linings of all blood vessels were not inflamed OR IMPAIRED. Thus the flow of oxygen from lungs to blood to tissues was not impeded. And in return, the flow of waste products (e.g., CO2, lactic acid, etc.) was not impeded. [I told this to a nurse long ago and she said without inflammation then the mitochondria (source of energy for all cells) was also likely not inflamed - thus every CELL functioning at 100%] And KNOW this, he was "running on tired legs" from having run the 5K qualifier race only 2 days before (that's when I told him my routine) and he barely qualified in that 5K by about 10 seconds and said he was "far from certain that he could also qualify in the upcoming 10K". So he was running on tired legs only 48 hours later and ran about that same 5K time BUT IN THE 10K.

I write of this to stress to people that we don't know what God's normal is. The evil one's have told us things like "Well that's normal for someone your age...." "Dan" could not believe what he was capable of (qualifying in the 10k, while running the first 5K ALSO IN A NATIONAL QUALIFYING TIME - ONLY 2 days after running a national qualifying 5K. I said to him: "Now you truly know what your normal healthy body can do. He was speechless and walked away as though lost. 55 years of running - could have been a lot different had he known what "normal" - by God's design and plan - was.

As Jesus said: "your final meal should be with the setting of the sun." But He promoted uncooked vegetarian so LOW in ECG.

I have experienced what Dan experienced multiple times. To your health. Take care.

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I actually met Deborah Szekely at a few “fundraising” functions for various ‘causes’ I was formerly involved in. I never met her at “The Ranch”. She was very active in philanthropic circles in San Diego back in the day, and ironically they were not related to health, a vegan or vegetarian lifestyle, or promoting health or wellness for that matter.

I like your stopping eating at 4 PM protocol. They say that intermittent fasting, (which is basically what you are doing) can help with so many ‘health conditions”. That one withholds food for at least 12 hours between meals.

Fortunately, though I am of the same age as you are, I do not suffer from any chronic condition or disease. I have an auto immune condition of the thyroid, but I “manage” it very well and in general, I am in good health and still have a sharp and facile mind. No brain fog for me!

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Having been steeped heavily in both Catholicism and Protestantism, growing up with a mother who saw spending Sunday morning in nature as a preferred alternative, neither parent thought politics belonged in church. I came away from that with the cold assessment that organized religion does both ritual and community well. From my experience Protestants do community well and Catholicism excels at ritual. Catholicism is all about hierarchy, while that is largely absent in most Protestant organizations, but the person standing in front of you is always “preaching.” Those who stand “above you” (even if only those few steps at the altar) can’t help themselves from being political and the system rewards them for it.

Meet me in the garden or the beach on Sundays, the pope is irrelevant in my life.

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I found comfort in the rituals of the Catholic Church. That is the Catholic Church of my youth, not the “modern Catholic Church” of today. The churches I went to were filled with parishioners who were mostly of Mexican descent, which adds a whole other flavor to things. I never bought into the idea of ‘confession’ and or the ‘confession of sins”. I always believed we all have a “direct connection” to God/Source/Creator and there is no need for a ‘human intercessor’ like a priest. Where you find that ‘connection, can be in a house of worship or out on nature, or wherever one feels connected to that God Source.

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A bouncer and a janitor? I had no idea. Sounds about right. I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic school through 5th grade, when mercifully, we moved to California and I think my mom cheaped out on sending me to private school. Houses in southern California cost 3+ times what our house in New Jersey sold for in 1978, so I got to experience California public school instead.

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It would be nice if Cardinal Robert Sarah became the next Pope. He would be the first black African Pope, and one of the most conservative in recent history. A good sign is that he seems to be opposed by the current Catholic hierarchy.

"...October 6, 2015, the third day of the contentious synod on the family... “We need to be inclusive and welcoming to all that is human.” BUT, Cardinal Sarah continued, there are two dangers today: “On the one hand, the idolatry of Western freedom; on the other, Islamic fundamentalism: atheistic secularism versus religious fanaticism.”

"A prominent Vatican watcher wrote...: “He stepped in it today by talking about the two beasts of the Apocalypse. His popable stock took a hit.” Fr James Martin SJ claimed that Sarah had violated the Catechism, “which asks us to treat LGBT people with ‘respect, compassion and sensitivity’ ”.

-- Why Cardinal Sarah terrifies his critics, by Matthew Schmitz, 2017

https://wwrn.org/articles/47024/

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Michael Holloway's avatar

Did he mention feeling 'deathy' at all during the mass? A scene change for a new Act of the global Play, required a new character?

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The hidden hand..!

This Brother has been questioning whether Francis was a Catholic, and whether he was ever even the Pope, for quite some time. He argued that Benedict never truly passed on his full office and authority, legitimately.

https://www.fromrome.info/2025/04/21/pope-francis-has-died-on-easter-monday-at-age-of-88/

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I refer to myself as a “Cafeteria Catholic”, as in “I take what I like and I leave the rest”, kind of Catholic.

The Catholic Church I grew up in was steeped in “mysticism, miracles, and a bit of magic” with it’s rituals and what not. Because I grew up near the US/Mexico border, the Catholic Church was frequented by the many Mexicans that had filtered up north to work in agriculture. These were “Mexican Catholics” who had a strong connection to the Virgen de Guadalupe, the “Patron Saint of Mexico”.

I totally “latched” on to her as well, but didn’t seriously pursue this connection until I was an adult. She is “my girl”. I have many V of G iconography and imagery around my house, as well as a lot of V of G jewelry!

I have even visited her ‘shrine’ in Mexico City, to the place where she appeared to Juan Diego, and have seen the piece of her ‘robe’ that is on display in the main cathedral in Mexico City.

I pray to The Blessed Mother everyday. She is my main “guide” and spiritual advisor.

I feel now after Pope Francis’ passing it is the prefect opportunity for Catholics all over the world to petition The Church, to go back to it’s “traditional roots” in regarding The Mass, as well as it’s “policies and thinking”.

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