I hate conflict but I have strong convictions and do tons of research to support what I have learned, especially since 2015. However, I admit, I'm weak when it comes to writing my thoughts down and leaving my self open to disdain, outright lies, and being called Conspiracy theorist and much worse along the way.
My former supervisor said, Mark 50% of the people will agree with you, the other 50% that used to like you now don't like you and disagree with you because you have a different viewpoint to share that does NOT match theirs. This was the case during Trump's presidency and only got more inflamed during Covid (mostly because people are fearful, not faithful and watch too much MSM and do too little research)
I'm not sure what my point is but I wish I had thicker skin.
However, I was one of 2 people that went to my daughter's wedding unvaxxed (1 of 139) last October 2021 and took so much heat and was called every name in the book. During the past 3 years, I never rarely if ever wore a mask even in the height of the pandemic anywhere. I felt like I needed to make a difference somehow and show faith not fear.
Today, I am part of about 12 vax injury groups worldwide offering prayer, fundraising, emotional support and holistic therapies. (www.realnotrare.com and on Instagram - jabinjuriesusa, UK, Australia, Canada, Italy etc etc , died suddenly group on Facebook, react.org, Trialsite news.com
They use the word jab because when they had used vac, vax or vaccine they were disbanded. These people's lives are horrific and many are permanently disabled but they remain gas lit by friends, family and the medical community at large after they "thought" they were doing the right thing and they need to know that more people care.
If you have time consider identifying these and supporting them too. I guess in the end I am a work in progress. I've had many failings in life but I try to do better day by day and pay it forward in any manner that I can.
@Mark You sound like a really great person and way stronger than you give yourself credit for!! And the only time I ever decided to wear a mask was going into the liquor store and having to get past the door Nazis. When I was told to “PUT A MASK ON” they regretted telling me to right away because the mask I wore had bold letters across it that read “TRUMP 2020” ….they couldn’t even see me grinning underneath
That's a great thing to cultivate. Injustice abounds, and unless one does something to actually remedy it, getting upset about it accomplishes nothing. I used to get enraged about injustice, but I also worked to remedy it, at great personal cost, financial, and physical, but it's really difficult not to become really upset about criminals unleashing a eugenics bioweapon on humanity as part of an enslavement agenda. Fear, however, is another emotion best not indulged.
When you know what your individual truths are, there is no way anyone can offend you. People will have their thoughts, ideas and opinions and none need by taken on as offenses or burdens. The true self rises above this petty nonsense. The true self is not offended, it is always the ego that is offended.
I laugh at people getting offended. After working with insanity for 23 years in my former job, and getting called every name in the book, my ego is pretty tough.
I was enraged when someone tried to kill me. I considered extracting revenge. Neither he, nor I would have benefitted, but only been further harmed had I extracted revenge or had what I wished might happen to the guy actually had happened. When I truly forgave him in my heart, a huge burden was lifted. Not long after that he died of pancreatic cancer. I pray for his soul, and thank him for the lesson. If I ran into him alive on the street, magically, I'd hug him, and laugh, after thanking him.
Anger, from minor annoyances, to righteous indignation, to the persistent squabbles of married or long term couples, and friends, to road rage, to murder, is an emotion, and one observed in all animals to one degree or other. It results in drug, and alcohol addictions too. Humans can, with much practice control or eliminate it completely from arising or, at least, from being expressed overtly. Sadness, from compassion, and empathy, to minor regret, to situational or chronic depression, to the despondency resulting in suicide, is a human emotion. Humans can, with much practice, eliminate the unproductive, or harmful manifestations of sadness from arising, and develop with great skill the productive manifestations such as compassion, or empathy that result from a certain kind of sadness. Depression results, often, in drug, or alcohol addictions, or food issues. There are other human emotions.
I can't get too hung up on the emotions, or self-centeredness of others. I can only work on controlling how I respond, internally, and externally, to them. That's enough to toil over. Proliferating on being tired of how humans emote seems a bit of a waste of time as the only thing one can do is not participate when confronted by emotions of others to which we'd rather not be subjected.
It takes a lifetime to learn, or more. The evidence is we keep returning to meet ourselves. One can ignore the substantial evidence for reincarnation, and the universal law of karma, but believing that evidence is not mutually exclusive to being a follower of Christ Jesus. Christ said turn the other cheek, love others as one loves themself, and, most difficult of all, to love one's enemies. The Buddha NEVER claimed to be anything but a man. He taught how to do what Christ Jesus LIVED most profoundly on the cross before he died in excruciating pain, while being humiliated. God incarnate suffered to show humanity how to love. We still haven't learned what Christ Jesus taught us but someday we will. This is a great classroom if you don't live in fear.
I sometimes wonder, if there may be something more fundamental at the source, than emotion itself. Perhaps not, as it does seem to be a primary attribute. The good Dr Peterson may have an opinion as well. Thoughts?
Luckily, I was born one of the eldest kids in a family of seven children, so learning how to “take things on the chin” as we Brits say, became a matter of survival. I did it successfully and continue to do so with my sarcasm and sardonic wit, and I could care less who is offended by it because in my view, I don’t unleash the beast unless somebody really deserves it.
Like so many aspects of our lives, this has been conditioned into our thinking through media, education, social media (particularly), and pretty much our daily lives. And, in the face of a weak family environment, where parents also vent their anger and frustration because they are offended, we have reached the point where only a major social and educational transformation will be necessary to right the ship. Frankly, trying to convince people to not be so easily offended is no different from trying to convince people that the pandemic was a gigantic psy-op to cover a pending financial collapse. Likely, we are talking to many of the same people.
What a great message!! Years ago when my employer sensed that I had let someone get under my skin, He told me that at a young age he made the decision to never let that happen to him because, he explained, that meant the other person held a certain control over him and he did not want that to be the case. That has kept me from getting offended for many years.
People are pretty rude here. From how they drive to how they shop, to how we are treated when we shop. I think sometimes people deserve to not get away with it so easily. But, point taken! :)
I mebbe wrong but I gotta sense that the jabs've made formerly tolerant folks ex-seed-in'ly intolerant an' so overly-sensitized to "offense" it wuz like a new allergy!
Say the WRONG word (as if there are words that'r "wrong"), look the wrong way at some'un (an git attacked fer it!), use the wrong pronoun (my DD did this and got slammed 'fore she dumped her woke-i-fried former "friend" fer this garbage...) and yer dead meat, yer goose is cooked! These folks'll start sneezing like you wuz a powdered bio-weapon (meanwhile ignoring the "real" ones in our midst).
Meetin' this New Whirled Odor of overly sensitized oft-woke folk is the "do not forgive--ever, never..." (unless you're a blue-checkmarked proven special VIP...) commandment... So if you've offended, ye get no canonical dispensation. Sometimes these misguided folk'll make ye pay penance (my younger daughter was told that if she was "made to cry" her "guilt" was thereby recognized and sufficient to allow reconsideration--though multiple mea culpas and forced apologies were also extracted...). This is a psy-op on the BRAINS of sane humans if ye ask me--with kids EXTRA vulnerable. (Thankfully my daughter has dropped her overly sensitive and guilt-affirming messed up "friends" aka fiends if ye ask me!)
I believe that "micro-aggress-sins" with folks takin' offense at literally anythin' an' everthin' started buildin' up prior to the plandemic but they throttled to Warp Speed once them danger-jabs started...
My "script" fer resilience is debatin' and arguin' and disagreein' 'bout stuff DAILY an' enjoyin' it! I know many folks who deplore conflict and even slightly raised voices make their skin crawl (some've us git a leeetle loud!) an' find it stressful--but there is something to say fer not shrinkin' when some'one hurls you a whopper've an insult an' you hurl it back (with a twist!) an' then you both laugh...make up (ok ok, sorry the fish was not THAT dry), and then you eat, walk the dog, etc. and it's back to "normal." Bouncin' back is muscle mem'ry. This is also a) comedy (you'll see it in a lotta Woody Allen movies) and b) typical dinner table behave-yer fer a lotta Jewish an' Italian "famblies" that don't see this as problematic because arguin' is the norm (this I know from experi'ance). Jus' sayin' that sometimes regular doses of offense (not deep but fairly sharp!) "innoculates" ye against over-sensitivity and makes ye more resilient, which is "a velly good thing." (Not bein' jabbed helps a tad too ;-)
Often times anger and outrage seem aligned with a sense of ethical integrity.But I do see ego-importance often taking center stage. I appreciate these sorts of discussions.
Being offendible, a word and mode of being new to the lexicon. Spellcheck doesn’t know what to do with it any more than those afflicted with it have an easy cure.
Thank you for this. I agree with anger’s purpose of recognizing boundaries. It’s like a big STOP! message coming from deep within.
I don’t believe I’m often offended but will ponder this next time it arises. However, I admit being drawn to injustices and unresolved issues. Social media is a human sponge for all the above.
A bigger problem in this regard (IMO), is that it's become fashionable for people to take offense on behalf of others -- a major part of virtue signaling. That is worse than people easily being offended -- it's people looking for ways to be offended for what they imagine is offense of other people.
This is interesting and thought provoking.
I hate conflict but I have strong convictions and do tons of research to support what I have learned, especially since 2015. However, I admit, I'm weak when it comes to writing my thoughts down and leaving my self open to disdain, outright lies, and being called Conspiracy theorist and much worse along the way.
My former supervisor said, Mark 50% of the people will agree with you, the other 50% that used to like you now don't like you and disagree with you because you have a different viewpoint to share that does NOT match theirs. This was the case during Trump's presidency and only got more inflamed during Covid (mostly because people are fearful, not faithful and watch too much MSM and do too little research)
I'm not sure what my point is but I wish I had thicker skin.
However, I was one of 2 people that went to my daughter's wedding unvaxxed (1 of 139) last October 2021 and took so much heat and was called every name in the book. During the past 3 years, I never rarely if ever wore a mask even in the height of the pandemic anywhere. I felt like I needed to make a difference somehow and show faith not fear.
Today, I am part of about 12 vax injury groups worldwide offering prayer, fundraising, emotional support and holistic therapies. (www.realnotrare.com and on Instagram - jabinjuriesusa, UK, Australia, Canada, Italy etc etc , died suddenly group on Facebook, react.org, Trialsite news.com
They use the word jab because when they had used vac, vax or vaccine they were disbanded. These people's lives are horrific and many are permanently disabled but they remain gas lit by friends, family and the medical community at large after they "thought" they were doing the right thing and they need to know that more people care.
If you have time consider identifying these and supporting them too. I guess in the end I am a work in progress. I've had many failings in life but I try to do better day by day and pay it forward in any manner that I can.
@Mark You sound like a really great person and way stronger than you give yourself credit for!! And the only time I ever decided to wear a mask was going into the liquor store and having to get past the door Nazis. When I was told to “PUT A MASK ON” they regretted telling me to right away because the mask I wore had bold letters across it that read “TRUMP 2020” ….they couldn’t even see me grinning underneath
Oh, I have no doubt that your grin was in fact big enough for them to see 🤣
Tirion “I drink and I know things!!” 🤣😃
Hahaha!!
I think you wrote your thoughts down very well. Thank you!
I can relate Mark C. You seem to be a lot like me in that I don't like conflict either. You may have some of this personality trait, INFJ.
It's very rare, we are often misunderstood. You may or may not be, at least it's interesting.
https://youtu.be/hr31hCkyzKw
Yes that is me in the MB world
Thanks for your thoughts, and for the info about those vax injury groups.
I am a member of React also (not injured, thankfully). My heart goes out to these victims.
I think supporting them gives us a chance to channel all of our anger, sadness, incredulity, into something positive.
Do you identify as a conspiracy theorist?
https://t.me/scifiworld0/4514
It is difficult to offend me. THAT is what I have chosen to cultivate.
Injustice can still get me though
That's a great thing to cultivate. Injustice abounds, and unless one does something to actually remedy it, getting upset about it accomplishes nothing. I used to get enraged about injustice, but I also worked to remedy it, at great personal cost, financial, and physical, but it's really difficult not to become really upset about criminals unleashing a eugenics bioweapon on humanity as part of an enslavement agenda. Fear, however, is another emotion best not indulged.
Absolutely!!
I'm very similar!
When you know what your individual truths are, there is no way anyone can offend you. People will have their thoughts, ideas and opinions and none need by taken on as offenses or burdens. The true self rises above this petty nonsense. The true self is not offended, it is always the ego that is offended.
Exactly
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I laugh at people getting offended. After working with insanity for 23 years in my former job, and getting called every name in the book, my ego is pretty tough.
Life IS stranger than fiction.
I was enraged when someone tried to kill me. I considered extracting revenge. Neither he, nor I would have benefitted, but only been further harmed had I extracted revenge or had what I wished might happen to the guy actually had happened. When I truly forgave him in my heart, a huge burden was lifted. Not long after that he died of pancreatic cancer. I pray for his soul, and thank him for the lesson. If I ran into him alive on the street, magically, I'd hug him, and laugh, after thanking him.
Anger, from minor annoyances, to righteous indignation, to the persistent squabbles of married or long term couples, and friends, to road rage, to murder, is an emotion, and one observed in all animals to one degree or other. It results in drug, and alcohol addictions too. Humans can, with much practice control or eliminate it completely from arising or, at least, from being expressed overtly. Sadness, from compassion, and empathy, to minor regret, to situational or chronic depression, to the despondency resulting in suicide, is a human emotion. Humans can, with much practice, eliminate the unproductive, or harmful manifestations of sadness from arising, and develop with great skill the productive manifestations such as compassion, or empathy that result from a certain kind of sadness. Depression results, often, in drug, or alcohol addictions, or food issues. There are other human emotions.
I can't get too hung up on the emotions, or self-centeredness of others. I can only work on controlling how I respond, internally, and externally, to them. That's enough to toil over. Proliferating on being tired of how humans emote seems a bit of a waste of time as the only thing one can do is not participate when confronted by emotions of others to which we'd rather not be subjected.
Wow, Celia, you have some really awesome people subscribed on your thread
I know! It's this miracle, in my life.
Folks who, at the thought, turn, look over their shoulder, and blurt “... hmmm..?”
Typos?? I cannot see the post right now
Very well said. I am still learning to condition myself not to react in the moment.
It takes a lifetime to learn, or more. The evidence is we keep returning to meet ourselves. One can ignore the substantial evidence for reincarnation, and the universal law of karma, but believing that evidence is not mutually exclusive to being a follower of Christ Jesus. Christ said turn the other cheek, love others as one loves themself, and, most difficult of all, to love one's enemies. The Buddha NEVER claimed to be anything but a man. He taught how to do what Christ Jesus LIVED most profoundly on the cross before he died in excruciating pain, while being humiliated. God incarnate suffered to show humanity how to love. We still haven't learned what Christ Jesus taught us but someday we will. This is a great classroom if you don't live in fear.
Amen, in Jesus Christ’s Name...Truth...
Beautiful insight! 🙏💜💯
I sometimes wonder, if there may be something more fundamental at the source, than emotion itself. Perhaps not, as it does seem to be a primary attribute. The good Dr Peterson may have an opinion as well. Thoughts?
Luckily, I was born one of the eldest kids in a family of seven children, so learning how to “take things on the chin” as we Brits say, became a matter of survival. I did it successfully and continue to do so with my sarcasm and sardonic wit, and I could care less who is offended by it because in my view, I don’t unleash the beast unless somebody really deserves it.
Like so many aspects of our lives, this has been conditioned into our thinking through media, education, social media (particularly), and pretty much our daily lives. And, in the face of a weak family environment, where parents also vent their anger and frustration because they are offended, we have reached the point where only a major social and educational transformation will be necessary to right the ship. Frankly, trying to convince people to not be so easily offended is no different from trying to convince people that the pandemic was a gigantic psy-op to cover a pending financial collapse. Likely, we are talking to many of the same people.
What a great message!! Years ago when my employer sensed that I had let someone get under my skin, He told me that at a young age he made the decision to never let that happen to him because, he explained, that meant the other person held a certain control over him and he did not want that to be the case. That has kept me from getting offended for many years.
People are pretty rude here. From how they drive to how they shop, to how we are treated when we shop. I think sometimes people deserve to not get away with it so easily. But, point taken! :)
Thanks I needed that....and more (which thankfully he has). Perfect timing!
Hoping you have relaxation planned for the week end.
Good mind medicine, perfecto! Thank you for all you are and do Celia!
I mebbe wrong but I gotta sense that the jabs've made formerly tolerant folks ex-seed-in'ly intolerant an' so overly-sensitized to "offense" it wuz like a new allergy!
Say the WRONG word (as if there are words that'r "wrong"), look the wrong way at some'un (an git attacked fer it!), use the wrong pronoun (my DD did this and got slammed 'fore she dumped her woke-i-fried former "friend" fer this garbage...) and yer dead meat, yer goose is cooked! These folks'll start sneezing like you wuz a powdered bio-weapon (meanwhile ignoring the "real" ones in our midst).
Meetin' this New Whirled Odor of overly sensitized oft-woke folk is the "do not forgive--ever, never..." (unless you're a blue-checkmarked proven special VIP...) commandment... So if you've offended, ye get no canonical dispensation. Sometimes these misguided folk'll make ye pay penance (my younger daughter was told that if she was "made to cry" her "guilt" was thereby recognized and sufficient to allow reconsideration--though multiple mea culpas and forced apologies were also extracted...). This is a psy-op on the BRAINS of sane humans if ye ask me--with kids EXTRA vulnerable. (Thankfully my daughter has dropped her overly sensitive and guilt-affirming messed up "friends" aka fiends if ye ask me!)
I believe that "micro-aggress-sins" with folks takin' offense at literally anythin' an' everthin' started buildin' up prior to the plandemic but they throttled to Warp Speed once them danger-jabs started...
My "script" fer resilience is debatin' and arguin' and disagreein' 'bout stuff DAILY an' enjoyin' it! I know many folks who deplore conflict and even slightly raised voices make their skin crawl (some've us git a leeetle loud!) an' find it stressful--but there is something to say fer not shrinkin' when some'one hurls you a whopper've an insult an' you hurl it back (with a twist!) an' then you both laugh...make up (ok ok, sorry the fish was not THAT dry), and then you eat, walk the dog, etc. and it's back to "normal." Bouncin' back is muscle mem'ry. This is also a) comedy (you'll see it in a lotta Woody Allen movies) and b) typical dinner table behave-yer fer a lotta Jewish an' Italian "famblies" that don't see this as problematic because arguin' is the norm (this I know from experi'ance). Jus' sayin' that sometimes regular doses of offense (not deep but fairly sharp!) "innoculates" ye against over-sensitivity and makes ye more resilient, which is "a velly good thing." (Not bein' jabbed helps a tad too ;-)
Often times anger and outrage seem aligned with a sense of ethical integrity.But I do see ego-importance often taking center stage. I appreciate these sorts of discussions.
Being offendible, a word and mode of being new to the lexicon. Spellcheck doesn’t know what to do with it any more than those afflicted with it have an easy cure.
Thank you for this. I agree with anger’s purpose of recognizing boundaries. It’s like a big STOP! message coming from deep within.
I don’t believe I’m often offended but will ponder this next time it arises. However, I admit being drawn to injustices and unresolved issues. Social media is a human sponge for all the above.
Bottom line. Do what you’re here to do. 🙏
I am Jean Valgean.
A bigger problem in this regard (IMO), is that it's become fashionable for people to take offense on behalf of others -- a major part of virtue signaling. That is worse than people easily being offended -- it's people looking for ways to be offended for what they imagine is offense of other people.