I am going to let everybody have their say, and assume there is no right or wrong. This post is about wishing different Christians were more interested in what the "other" believes. And why. Just as one wishes US Presidents spoke foreign languages.
I started this argument but I'm not going to stay in it. Just glad we could air it out. I now pray The Jesus Prayer on the Rosary, as of today. Prayers are prayers. Aren't they?
If you think about it, Christianity, which is a personal, individual relationship with Jesus the Christ, is not a religion. There are no rituals involved. The thief on the cross didn't have to qualify once he claimed the gift of salvation.
That doesn't mean there are not a lot of religions that self-identify as Christian. That's where the rituals are found; big religion is as corrupt as big government!
Traditional Spirituality was practiced at home. The worst offenders of organized religion are the MEGA-CHURCHES. The members are the super rich. What is disturbing, these Mega-Churches do not pay taxes. (Corporatized Churches).
Thank you, Celia, from the bottom of my heart! This is such an important message right now and an exquisitely simple teaching on meditation. With Valentine’s Day coming up, I will send it to many people who will send it to others. That will put more Duvine Love in the world, which is our primary job right now. Many blessings to you and much healing Divine Love to all who read this.
"Evangelicals claim, for example, that praying the Rosary, is a form of idolatry. One of their claims is that the prayers of the Rosary are not in the Bible. Not true, they are.
To wit:
“When the angel Gabriel was sent to Mary by the Father, he greeted her, “Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with you” (Luke 1:28). When Mary visited Elizabeth, Elizabeth exclaimed, “Of all women you are the most blessed, and blessed is the fruit of your womb” (Luke 1:41-42).”
Genuine born again, Spirit-filled Bible Christians are correct to take that stance. Nowhere in the Holy Bible are we commanded to pray to a string of beads, or to use such in our prayer time. In fact, Jesus spoke out against such, "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” Mt. 6: 7.
In fact, praying the rosary is an offshoot of Hinduism, in which prayer wheels are used. The unsuspecting soul spins this wheel around all day long! They're often praying on behalf of others who pay them to do so, for whatever reasons.
As for "meditation", let's not confuse serious contemplation of God's Word with the Eastern mysticism's corrupted idea of "meditation". Repeating mantras is an open invitation for demons to come in. It's an intentional disengaging of the mind, putting oneself into a trance or a state of limbo while demons come into them or speak to them. Most practitioners of this kind of evil meditation have no idea what they're actually doing, or what is happening to them. The Bible calls this a kind of divination of spirits, or dealing with "familiar spirits". God taboos it. Former practitioners, who've converted to biblical Christianity, have some very interesting testimonies to tell re: these ungodly practices and their experiences! It's a piloerection experience!
There is much VERY detailed teaching about this (and many other important topics) on https://www.getalifemedia.com/. Once there, click on the button, "Watch Video", and then scroll down until you see: "World Religions, Cults & The Occult". Click on the topic "Hinduism" or whatever else catches your attention. These videos are PHENOMENAL! Billy has quite an interesting background, in which he's experienced New Age and Occult practices. He knows what he's talking about!
What is biblical mediation, and how are we to use it?
King David said, "But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night." Psa. 1: 2. That means, we keep God's Word in the forefront of our minds at all times. We don't quietly sit around humming and droning mantras. It ties in with, "Thy word have I hid in my heart, that I might not sin against thee.” Psa. 119: 11
The bold and courageous leader, Joshua, was instructed by God:
"This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success." Josh. 1: 8.
This passage not only instructs us to meditate, but also tells us why we ought to, and what the expected benefits are. It's an all-day lifestyle for the godly. Meditation is taking very seriously what God tells us to do in His Word, and putting it into practice.
Christians are forbidden to participate in practices that come from pagan religions or cults. The Roman Catholic cult has intentionally omitted the following commandments from their bible (NIV):
"3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me..." Exodus 20: 3-5
I read this with tears flowing… thank you so much for this! I will bookmark this page to return to this again and again. Sending love and a peace profound to you and yours! ♥️
You're more than welcome, Sunny! I am blessed, just from knowing that I have been a blessing to you! I'm always glad to be of service to the King of kings and Lord of lords, the Lord Jesus Christ, and to the people whom He loves so very much. "God hasn't called us to see through each other, but to see each other through." I try to do my little bit to help.
When someone touches my heart with truth, I often cut and paste the comment into a document that I can save in a personal file folder for future reference. Doing this makes it much easier to get to in the time of need. I have done that with your reply. I put it into my file folder, "Online Encouragement". Like most others, I have times when I can use a little encouragement, wondering if I'm serving my purpose or not. At those times, I go to this folder. Knowing I have been a blessing to others in the past gives me encouragement to continue to do so in the future! I've prayed God's blessing over you, and all yours, and He always answers my prayers! Have a great day!
No where in the Bible does it mention we should pray to the virgin Mary. That is a deception taught by man in the Catholic church. If we pray to Mary, we are taking our focus off of Jesus. That is the power of Satan. Think about that for a moment.
Thanks for sharing this, Celia. This entire video has a very Buddhist/Hindu view of “meditation” to it, a kind of New Age Unitarian Christianity, the kind that certain members of my family embraced for much of my life, in order to escape the idea of God’s judgement, and engage in this it that “sin.” I think the entirety of American culture now embraces such a Christianity, with the rainbow flag now flying outside of many churches, and the obsession with “tolerance” over making people aware of “sin.” I am not saying this because I feel above it, or have any solution; I am just making an observation.
Thanks for this. I've been listening to the Noetic Prayer (Russian version) since you posted it some time ago. A real blessing that was. Now, I will add this to it. Ma ra na tha. Indeed. Thanks, Celia.
All meditation is by nature "Lit" or "Christed" - the word Christ means the annointed one , or the deliverer , so , let us please , if you will .... ( speakers start playing theme song to the Twilight Zone ) Think of a candle , a flame , under which is put a bowl of oil . Don't think of a bowl of oil that a dry wick is placed in and then lit with a pre existant flame , reverse the process . Now , imagine if you will ( Music can increase in volume , perhaps Beethovens 5th , why not ! ) A hand picks up that bowl of oil with the flame that has been placed into it , and the bowl starts moving . It is NOT your hand , it is a hand , like the hand in the writing on the wall Mene Mene Tekel Parsin , and the floating hand is carrying that crystal glass bowl with the flame in it , in front of you , so that you can see about three feet fowards into the darkness that you were trying to walk in with out stretched hands . Now , ( Speakers start to play the Moonlight Sonata ) the bowl is offered to you to hold , and you stand very still , on your own , you have the bowl , the crystal bowl of oil and a very new kind of light glowing , in both of your hands . Now what do you do ? Quick -- play some gospel music and start a mega church ? Or hold the light up to the light giver , to take a look at the face that is attached to the gifting hands .
But you cannot . Because you know that if you do , every single thing that is inside of you that is not pure , holy , true , real , or good , will melt away , and because you are so full of ________ ( Enter the curse word of your choice here , French is usually more gentile than , English ) so full of f all the LIE .. which is putrified dead - necrosis , is I think the name for it in medical terms , dead flesh , you actually will not be able to exist . There will be practically nothing left but the light in the bowl . Even the oil , even the crystal , will be left as dust on the ground.
So this process must happen slowly . You hear a voice , now , why not , let the voice come from the stereo , but it also comes from the floor and from the sky , and it also will come from the mouth of your friend , and the mouth of your enemy , and the voice will say , Keep your eyes on the light and let it grow inside of you . Grow anew , into the light . You know , every seven years , we are completely different components of flesh pots , we are NOT the same , day after day , biologically , and should not be the same , day after day spiritually either .
And this is the beginning of the cocoon . The beginning of the 40 years we will walk in the desert , I think the days are like 1350 or so , like 3 and 1/2 years , And the fearful darkness becomes a black velvet cloth , and the light becomes your friend , and the voice , becomes real . Manna is what you eat , and have hunger for nothing else . And every step you take will feel like the first step the Slaves in Exodus took when they came to the Red Sea - ( Cue in Charlton Heston Hollywood full on Orchestrated Magnifico Opus number 11 ) and the sea will part , and your foot will step on solid land .
I struggle with quiet and mindfulness. I do meditate, sometimes I listen to Tibetan bowls, gregorian chants, to get quiet. Many favorites, but gregorian alleluia is a favorite, supposedly tied to psalm148, which I find esoteric psalm. Lately, very sporadically, I will see a TV screen, with pictures, places, people flashing by, and I have no idea who or what it is. For me the world outside is false, inner is our goal. Thank you, a good meditation you presented
Thank you for this link, Celia. Meditation has been extremely helpful to me, especially after losing my husband to brain cancer while our children were still very little.
I would only add that I believe it is a good practice, at the start of a meditation, to invoke the protection of the Christ Light. From your heart invite or invoke the Light of pure love and wisdom, that which created you, to fill and flow through you, to surround you and guide your meditation for your highest purpose.
The Christ Light will protect you from any potential negative spirits.
Thank you Celia. With great respect for your work here, consider that the words, "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you" (in Luke 1:28) were spoken by the angel Gabriel to Mary, not as a prayer for us to repeat. The Lord speaks in strongly negative terms about consulting the dead. With great respect for the mother of our Lord, she was human. She is dead like King David is dead. She will rise again at the Lord's second coming. God has told us that Christ alone is the mediator between God and man.
Do not consult the dead is found in Deut 18:10-12:
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 NIV
[10] Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, [11] or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. [12] Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you. Deut 18:10
And Christ alone as the mediator between God and man is found in I Timothy 2:5:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
To profess Christ as King and not expect serious blowback from the world is to seriously misunderstand the message and mission of He whom you profess to follow. Blowback=confirmation
Thanks so much for sending, Celia. I always wanted to start meditation and during Covid, I even bought a book but never set this in regular practice… this is a good reminder to finally start it. I like it how the narrator says “meditation is like going back to the source” and yes, I agree, it is like speaking with divine without saying a word. Thanks for this- what a great reminder to start to think of yourself. Perhaps the world will be better and kinder if more people meditate . ❤️❤️❤️
I am going to let everybody have their say, and assume there is no right or wrong. This post is about wishing different Christians were more interested in what the "other" believes. And why. Just as one wishes US Presidents spoke foreign languages.
I started this argument but I'm not going to stay in it. Just glad we could air it out. I now pray The Jesus Prayer on the Rosary, as of today. Prayers are prayers. Aren't they?
If you think about it, Christianity, which is a personal, individual relationship with Jesus the Christ, is not a religion. There are no rituals involved. The thief on the cross didn't have to qualify once he claimed the gift of salvation.
That doesn't mean there are not a lot of religions that self-identify as Christian. That's where the rituals are found; big religion is as corrupt as big government!
Corrupted by the Business Model. Organized religion is a business. People go to Church and pay (buy) salvation. Jesus is now a commodity.
Christian Fascists, or Fascist Christianity...
Love both your comments because they are true. Thank you both for sharing these truths! ♥️
Traditional Spirituality was practiced at home. The worst offenders of organized religion are the MEGA-CHURCHES. The members are the super rich. What is disturbing, these Mega-Churches do not pay taxes. (Corporatized Churches).
Hi Sunny Reads. You are very welcome. Much aloha (love) for you.
Thank you, Celia, from the bottom of my heart! This is such an important message right now and an exquisitely simple teaching on meditation. With Valentine’s Day coming up, I will send it to many people who will send it to others. That will put more Duvine Love in the world, which is our primary job right now. Many blessings to you and much healing Divine Love to all who read this.
"Evangelicals claim, for example, that praying the Rosary, is a form of idolatry. One of their claims is that the prayers of the Rosary are not in the Bible. Not true, they are.
To wit:
“When the angel Gabriel was sent to Mary by the Father, he greeted her, “Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with you” (Luke 1:28). When Mary visited Elizabeth, Elizabeth exclaimed, “Of all women you are the most blessed, and blessed is the fruit of your womb” (Luke 1:41-42).”
Genuine born again, Spirit-filled Bible Christians are correct to take that stance. Nowhere in the Holy Bible are we commanded to pray to a string of beads, or to use such in our prayer time. In fact, Jesus spoke out against such, "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” Mt. 6: 7.
In fact, praying the rosary is an offshoot of Hinduism, in which prayer wheels are used. The unsuspecting soul spins this wheel around all day long! They're often praying on behalf of others who pay them to do so, for whatever reasons.
As for "meditation", let's not confuse serious contemplation of God's Word with the Eastern mysticism's corrupted idea of "meditation". Repeating mantras is an open invitation for demons to come in. It's an intentional disengaging of the mind, putting oneself into a trance or a state of limbo while demons come into them or speak to them. Most practitioners of this kind of evil meditation have no idea what they're actually doing, or what is happening to them. The Bible calls this a kind of divination of spirits, or dealing with "familiar spirits". God taboos it. Former practitioners, who've converted to biblical Christianity, have some very interesting testimonies to tell re: these ungodly practices and their experiences! It's a piloerection experience!
There is much VERY detailed teaching about this (and many other important topics) on https://www.getalifemedia.com/. Once there, click on the button, "Watch Video", and then scroll down until you see: "World Religions, Cults & The Occult". Click on the topic "Hinduism" or whatever else catches your attention. These videos are PHENOMENAL! Billy has quite an interesting background, in which he's experienced New Age and Occult practices. He knows what he's talking about!
What is biblical mediation, and how are we to use it?
King David said, "But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night." Psa. 1: 2. That means, we keep God's Word in the forefront of our minds at all times. We don't quietly sit around humming and droning mantras. It ties in with, "Thy word have I hid in my heart, that I might not sin against thee.” Psa. 119: 11
The bold and courageous leader, Joshua, was instructed by God:
"This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success." Josh. 1: 8.
This passage not only instructs us to meditate, but also tells us why we ought to, and what the expected benefits are. It's an all-day lifestyle for the godly. Meditation is taking very seriously what God tells us to do in His Word, and putting it into practice.
Christians are forbidden to participate in practices that come from pagan religions or cults. The Roman Catholic cult has intentionally omitted the following commandments from their bible (NIV):
"3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me..." Exodus 20: 3-5
Why would the Vatican cut that out of holy Scripture? $$$, power, control, AND...disobedience to God! The powers that be are deliberately deceiving billions of precious souls away from Christ and to their god, Lucifer, and ultimately to Hell! Here's an extremely revealing video clip I saw earlier this week. I hope I'm allowed to present it here; pls forgive me, Celia, if I'm not permitted: https://rumble.com/v4c1qni-pope-francis-orders-christians-to-pray-to-satan-for-real-enlightenment.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+People%27s+Voice&ep=2
I trust what I've shared will help to free some people from unbiblical bondage. God bless you!
I read this with tears flowing… thank you so much for this! I will bookmark this page to return to this again and again. Sending love and a peace profound to you and yours! ♥️
You're more than welcome, Sunny! I am blessed, just from knowing that I have been a blessing to you! I'm always glad to be of service to the King of kings and Lord of lords, the Lord Jesus Christ, and to the people whom He loves so very much. "God hasn't called us to see through each other, but to see each other through." I try to do my little bit to help.
When someone touches my heart with truth, I often cut and paste the comment into a document that I can save in a personal file folder for future reference. Doing this makes it much easier to get to in the time of need. I have done that with your reply. I put it into my file folder, "Online Encouragement". Like most others, I have times when I can use a little encouragement, wondering if I'm serving my purpose or not. At those times, I go to this folder. Knowing I have been a blessing to others in the past gives me encouragement to continue to do so in the future! I've prayed God's blessing over you, and all yours, and He always answers my prayers! Have a great day!
No where in the Bible does it mention we should pray to the virgin Mary. That is a deception taught by man in the Catholic church. If we pray to Mary, we are taking our focus off of Jesus. That is the power of Satan. Think about that for a moment.
Thanks for sharing this, Celia. This entire video has a very Buddhist/Hindu view of “meditation” to it, a kind of New Age Unitarian Christianity, the kind that certain members of my family embraced for much of my life, in order to escape the idea of God’s judgement, and engage in this it that “sin.” I think the entirety of American culture now embraces such a Christianity, with the rainbow flag now flying outside of many churches, and the obsession with “tolerance” over making people aware of “sin.” I am not saying this because I feel above it, or have any solution; I am just making an observation.
Thanks for this. I've been listening to the Noetic Prayer (Russian version) since you posted it some time ago. A real blessing that was. Now, I will add this to it. Ma ra na tha. Indeed. Thanks, Celia.
All meditation is by nature "Lit" or "Christed" - the word Christ means the annointed one , or the deliverer , so , let us please , if you will .... ( speakers start playing theme song to the Twilight Zone ) Think of a candle , a flame , under which is put a bowl of oil . Don't think of a bowl of oil that a dry wick is placed in and then lit with a pre existant flame , reverse the process . Now , imagine if you will ( Music can increase in volume , perhaps Beethovens 5th , why not ! ) A hand picks up that bowl of oil with the flame that has been placed into it , and the bowl starts moving . It is NOT your hand , it is a hand , like the hand in the writing on the wall Mene Mene Tekel Parsin , and the floating hand is carrying that crystal glass bowl with the flame in it , in front of you , so that you can see about three feet fowards into the darkness that you were trying to walk in with out stretched hands . Now , ( Speakers start to play the Moonlight Sonata ) the bowl is offered to you to hold , and you stand very still , on your own , you have the bowl , the crystal bowl of oil and a very new kind of light glowing , in both of your hands . Now what do you do ? Quick -- play some gospel music and start a mega church ? Or hold the light up to the light giver , to take a look at the face that is attached to the gifting hands .
But you cannot . Because you know that if you do , every single thing that is inside of you that is not pure , holy , true , real , or good , will melt away , and because you are so full of ________ ( Enter the curse word of your choice here , French is usually more gentile than , English ) so full of f all the LIE .. which is putrified dead - necrosis , is I think the name for it in medical terms , dead flesh , you actually will not be able to exist . There will be practically nothing left but the light in the bowl . Even the oil , even the crystal , will be left as dust on the ground.
So this process must happen slowly . You hear a voice , now , why not , let the voice come from the stereo , but it also comes from the floor and from the sky , and it also will come from the mouth of your friend , and the mouth of your enemy , and the voice will say , Keep your eyes on the light and let it grow inside of you . Grow anew , into the light . You know , every seven years , we are completely different components of flesh pots , we are NOT the same , day after day , biologically , and should not be the same , day after day spiritually either .
And this is the beginning of the cocoon . The beginning of the 40 years we will walk in the desert , I think the days are like 1350 or so , like 3 and 1/2 years , And the fearful darkness becomes a black velvet cloth , and the light becomes your friend , and the voice , becomes real . Manna is what you eat , and have hunger for nothing else . And every step you take will feel like the first step the Slaves in Exodus took when they came to the Red Sea - ( Cue in Charlton Heston Hollywood full on Orchestrated Magnifico Opus number 11 ) and the sea will part , and your foot will step on solid land .
.... And that , is only the beginning .
I struggle with quiet and mindfulness. I do meditate, sometimes I listen to Tibetan bowls, gregorian chants, to get quiet. Many favorites, but gregorian alleluia is a favorite, supposedly tied to psalm148, which I find esoteric psalm. Lately, very sporadically, I will see a TV screen, with pictures, places, people flashing by, and I have no idea who or what it is. For me the world outside is false, inner is our goal. Thank you, a good meditation you presented
Thank you for this link, Celia. Meditation has been extremely helpful to me, especially after losing my husband to brain cancer while our children were still very little.
I would only add that I believe it is a good practice, at the start of a meditation, to invoke the protection of the Christ Light. From your heart invite or invoke the Light of pure love and wisdom, that which created you, to fill and flow through you, to surround you and guide your meditation for your highest purpose.
The Christ Light will protect you from any potential negative spirits.
Thank you Celia. With great respect for your work here, consider that the words, "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you" (in Luke 1:28) were spoken by the angel Gabriel to Mary, not as a prayer for us to repeat. The Lord speaks in strongly negative terms about consulting the dead. With great respect for the mother of our Lord, she was human. She is dead like King David is dead. She will rise again at the Lord's second coming. God has told us that Christ alone is the mediator between God and man.
Do not consult the dead is found in Deut 18:10-12:
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 NIV
[10] Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, [11] or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. [12] Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you. Deut 18:10
And Christ alone as the mediator between God and man is found in I Timothy 2:5:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Saul got into big trouble for disobeying this order.
Wonderful. And thank you!
Despite the morality of it, I have often heard people tell other people to go have “sex with themselves”.
only they phrase a little differently... :-\
To profess Christ as King and not expect serious blowback from the world is to seriously misunderstand the message and mission of He whom you profess to follow. Blowback=confirmation
Thank you for this! I will share it! Meditation is a process, and this video will help others!
Thank you for daring to tackle this.
Thanks so much for sending, Celia. I always wanted to start meditation and during Covid, I even bought a book but never set this in regular practice… this is a good reminder to finally start it. I like it how the narrator says “meditation is like going back to the source” and yes, I agree, it is like speaking with divine without saying a word. Thanks for this- what a great reminder to start to think of yourself. Perhaps the world will be better and kinder if more people meditate . ❤️❤️❤️