Legacy Media Now Calls US Destruction of Iraq "..one of the greatest blunders in American military history," blames it for rise of Trump, and asks if US has "learned the lessons."
YES, we have and it is this: Not to believe a WORD from mass media/military industrial complex. Not one word. This is the only "lesson." The destruction of Iraq was called "Nation Building."
”This was fraud, and I can’t say that often enough. No mistake—fraud.”
Well, it’s time to digest the elephant of Iraq, one smug media bite at a time.
I have cut and pasted the whole (unremarkable) article by Mike Bebernes, of Yahoo News, below, intended only as a “period piece” showing how exactly media pivots, shifts, sheds old skins, yet never come out and say:
“We lied. We are propagandists, then as now.”
Some facts from Bebernes piece:
We killed at least 300,000 Iraqi people. Total of dead in the whole “conflict” may be up to 600,000.
Cost was either $2 trillion or perhaps $3 trillion.
4,400 American servicemen were killed. (I haven’t dealt with these numbers myself but am quoting official sources, so please excuse if they are wrong.) In any case—
And all of this leads to a new Trump related guilt trip: (Not a media guilt trip, but one that shakes a finger at working and middle class populism.)
”Put simply, were it not for the Iraq War, Donald Trump probably would never have become president.” — Andrew Bacevich, Boston Globe
ARTICLE BELOW SHOWS NEW PALATABLE MEDIA POSTURE ON IRAQ INVASION
20 years later, has the U.S. learned the lessons of the Iraq War?
Thu, March 23, 2023, 3:54 PM EDT
“The 360” shows you diverse perspectives on the day’s top stories and debates.
Iraq is ‘anarchy’ 20 years after invasion -novelist
“This week marked the 20th anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, a war of choice that is now often considered to be one of the greatest blunders in American military history.
“Then-President George W. Bush and his administration rationalized the need for war by claiming that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction that posed an imminent threat to the U.S. and its allies. There were also unfounded suggestions that he had relationships with terrorists, including al-Qaida leaders who had plotted the Sept. 11 attacks. This case proved convincing to the American public. In the early weeks of the invasion, as U.S. forces conquered Baghdad and toppled Hussein’s regime, nearly three-quarters of those surveyed said they supported the decision to go to war.
“But that sentiment began to shift as the realities of the conflict came into focus. Despite Bush’s declaration of “Mission Accomplished” in May of 2003, the war would drag on for another eight years, as U.S. forces struggled to root out insurgent groups throughout the country, and efforts to establish a stable Iraqi government faltered. The war was formally ended in 2011 by President Barack Obama, who made his opposition to the conflict a key element of his presidential campaign, but the U.S. was forced to send in additional forces after Islamic State extremists took control of significant swaths of the country.
“Today, roughly 2,500 American troops remain in Iraq, a tiny fraction of the 170,000 that were stationed there at the height of the war. In recent polls, a strong majority of Americans say the U.S. made the wrong decision by invading Iraq.
“The U.S. is estimated to have spent upwards of $2 trillion on the war, and more than 4,400 American service members lost their lives in the conflict. The costs imposed on the Iraqi people were far greater. Conservative estimates put the number of civilian deaths at around 300,000, although many experts believe the true number could be much higher. Those figures also don’t account for the social and political costs that continue to plague the country two decades after the initial invasion.
Why there’s debate
[Tell us, Mike, we can’t imagine why, but for your expert framing. —Ed]
Deep breath Truth Barrier readers, we’re going back in. Ready?
“Whenever the Iraq War returns to public conversation, it sparks a fresh round of recriminations over the mistakes that led the U.S. into such an ill-fated conflict. But the anniversary has also raised a separate debate over what lessons the U.S. should have taken from the Iraq War — and whether we have actually learned them.
“One of the biggest takeaways from Iraq, many argue, is how it provided a stark warning about the limits of American military power, especially when it comes to the extraordinarily difficult task of “nation building.” Some conservatives make the case that this should make U.S. leaders more hesitant to intervene in other nations’ affairs. Liberals, on the other hand, say the war highlights how dangerous the right’s “us-vs.-them” approach to foreign policy can be — an attitude that they argue persists to this day.
“The war has also had a significant effect on U.S. politics. It remains the defining legacy of the Bush presidency, and many commentators say it helped fuel the deep distrust of American institutions that has become a dominant characteristic of the GOP in the Trump era. The public is also far less willing to support putting American troops on the ground, which has likely played a significant role in how leaders have approached conflicts in places like Libya, Syria and even Ukraine.
“But many commentators — especially those on the left — say the country has largely avoided learning any of the truly difficult lessons of the war, because doing so would require accountability for the politicians and media figures who encouraged the invasion in the first place. The biggest blind spot, some argue, is how little consideration there is for the incredible suffering that the invasion imposed on the people of Iraq, and the lack of any real commitment to atone for U.S. misdeeds in the country.
“Congress is currently considering a bill that would finally repeal decades-old legislation that authorized the use of military force for the war in Iraq and the Gulf War that preceded it. The bill is expected to comfortably pass through the Senate, but its fate in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives is less certain.”
Pause here, of Bebernes.
Next voice in my own:
Video: US Veteran screams at Bush.
Who was “curveball?” Was he real?
One time US Media war propagandist on his deep regret:
#FREEASSANGE immediately. Media liars who live in big houses, you owe him. Speak up.
When Trump said: “They lied. There were no weapons of mass destruction,” and that the invasion was a disastrous error, and Jeb Bush smirked:
”This was fraud, and I can’t say that often enough. No mistake—fraud.”
Back to Bebernes and his “period piece:”
Iraq showed that military power alone isn’t enough to change a country
“Above all, combined with the United States’ earlier experience of losing in Vietnam, the experience of Iraq and Afghanistan proved beyond any remaining doubt that no amount of money and strength by a superpower will change the outcome on the ground without a legitimate government in place. And Washington has found itself unable to implement that in Vietnam, Afghanistan, or Iraq.” — Michael Hirsh, Foreign Policy
Too many American leaders still think that military force can solve the world’s problems
“The U.S. has still not fully internalized that war’s lessons. The Iraq debacle should have taught the U.S. it can never again scare itself into war based on guesses about how sinister some enemy is or will be. It should have taught Americans the damage that can be done by treating a foreign bogeyman as inherently intolerable—whether it’s Saddam Hussein or Vladimir Putin or the mullahs of Iran, a nation whose feared pursuit of nuclear weapons has vexed Washington for many years.” — Brian Doherty, Reason
The war has all but disappeared from the national consciousness
“The war cost us at least $3 trillion, ruined America’s credibility for a generation in much of the world, and—at a conservative estimate—killed 600,000 people. Yet these days you could argue about politics every day for months without ever once bringing it up. It’s politically inert. In many ways, the war is just… gone.” — Freddie DeBoer, Daily Beast
The specter of Iraq has led the U.S. to dramatically change how it approaches global conflicts
“In Iraq, propaganda did much more than dress up battlefield events in polite language. It also invented targets and set operational objectives. Propaganda is now a powerful and direct instrument of warfare, an integral part of combat operations. This transformation has been so profound that the very concept of a battlefield has become outdated.” — Ross Caputi and Richard Hil, Al Jazeera
America’s memory of the war completely ignores the suffering of the Iraqi people
“Every time an anniversary for that catastrophic war passes, American commentators and former government officials who supported it engage in a nauseating ritual of trying to escape accountability. … These revisionist narratives typically get some pushback. But it’s not enough to re-examine what Americans got wrong. A true reckoning requires examining what happened to Iraqis.” — Zeeshan Aleem, MSNBC
There has never been a true reckoning for the people who led the country into war
“The absence of accountability for a government that lied us into war, and a media that jettisoned skepticism for stenography, continues to endanger our fragile democracy to this day.” — Editorial, The Nation
The lies that led to the war irrevocably damaged the public’s trust in their leaders
“The American people were terrified by their government into war, with the bogus menace of nuclear weapons wielded by a man with bogus connections to the 9/11 terrorists. They were promised a war that would be a cakewalk followed by an occupation in which their sons and daughters would be greeted with sweets and flowers. This cloud castle of fictions did incalculable damage to the bonds of trust between Americans and their leaders.” — Gerard Baker, Wall Street Journal
Iraq shows how dangerous it is to stifle opinions that break from the mainstream
“In a democracy, the majority still rules. At the same time, embattled minorities need avenues—and encouragement—to register their dissent, in the hope of convincing enough of their fellow citizens that they are right. Because sometimes they are. And the Iraq War was one of those times.” — Shadi Hamid, Atlantic
The war gave rise to the MAGA movement’s anti-authority worldview
“In no small measure, the horrors falling under the heading of Trumpism and culminating in the insurrection of Jan. 6, 2021, can be traced directly back to Bush’s cadre of self-deceived deceivers. Put simply, were it not for the Iraq War, Donald Trump probably would never have become president.” — Andrew Bacevich, Boston Globe
Did you catch this sub-head?
”Iraq shows how dangerous it is to stifle opinions that break from the mainstream.”
Let’s not choke on our coffee. They are what they are.
to use current woke lingo: I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My pronouns are : told/you/so
fwiw- During the lead up to the War on Iraq, I was working in DC and knew a woman who was married to a guy at the state department. Long before the vote in Congress, she told me that it was already decided and that the war was definitely happening. So, that vote was just for the sheep to make it look like we were still living under representative government. The truth is that America has been owned by the central bankers since 1913 and the Federal Reserve Act--the bankers run the govt and the rest is just an illusion.
Here's financial expert, Greg Mannarino, on the central banks being the real government:
Who collectively runs the entire financial system? Who runs the economy? Who runs world markets? The answer to all these questions is CENTRAL BANKS.
Central banks run the world, period. The illusion may be that Kings, Queens, Monarchs, Dictators, Presidents, Prime Ministers, etc. along with so called representative democracies or “We the People” get any kind or choice is nothing but an illusion.
The dire situation regarding the world economy is deliberate, as central banks are collectively pushing it off of a cliff. If we were to look back on history, we would see that it is precisely these economic downfalls/situations which lead the world population into World Wars. War of course, is both the end game and the scapegoat which will be blamed by our so-called world leaders as the source AND REASON WHY the world economy is failing and inflation continues to skyrocket- anything to distract people from the real culprit, central banks.
Here's ex-Secretary of Labor, Robert Reisch, under the Clinton Administration admitting the truth:
Robert Reich understands the current power structure of the U.S. because he was a Rhodes Scholar. He is a member of the CFR, and he was Secretary of Labor during the Clinton Administration. Robert Reich's January 7, 1999, article in USA Today states:
"The dirty little secret is that both houses of Congress have become irrelevant . . . in case you hadn't noticed, America's domestic policy is now being run by Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve Board. . . Congress is out of the loop. Every so often, some senators or house members politely ask Greenspan to visit and talk about the economy . . . Then he goes back down to the Fed and runs the country. . . . America's foreign policy is being run by the IMF (Int'l Monetary Fund) . . . and when the president decides to go to war, he no longer needs a declaration of war from Congress." [23
And the best documentaries on the bankers and all of the wars are:
Bill Still's The Money Masters
Mike Rivero's All Wars are Bankers Wars
It's basically 8 billion of us against the psychopathic, genocidal banking cartel.