Mark Crispin Miller Sent Me An Email Translating For Me Why "Communism" Does Not Land On Many American Ears As A Measure Of Evil But Rather, An Old Weapon Word
Mark Crispin Miller Sent Me An Email Translating For Me Why "Communism" Does Not Land On Many American Ears As A Measure Of Evil But Rather, An Old Weapon Word
Much respect to professor Miller, but I think there is a blind spot amongst many - one you don’t have and one that if we don’t shine a light on, it’s game over.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
The West accepts an epochal, monstrous, unforgivable double standard. We rehearse the crimes of Nazism almost daily, we teach them to our children as ultimate historical and moral lessons, and we bear witness to every victim. We are, with so few exceptions, almost silent on the crimes of Communism. So the bodies lie among us, unnoticed, everywhere. We insisted upon "de-Nazification," and we excoriate those who tempered it in the name of new or emerging political realities. There never has been and never will be a similar "de-Communization," although the slaughter of innocents was exponentially greater, and although those who signed the orders and ran the camps remain. In the case of Nazism, we hunt down ninety-year-old men because "the bones cry out" for justice. In the case of Communism, we insisted on "no witch hunts"—let the dead bury the living. But the dead can bury no one.
It’s absolutely astounding how few people know about the left wing, Bolshevik political violence in Germany during the early 1900’s, such as the German (November) Revolution of 1918, the Spartacist uprising of 1918, and the general violence and political assassinations occurring on the streets of Germany from 1918-1933.
This, AFTER the Bolsheviks overthrew the Russian Monarchy and murdered the Romanov family, in 1918, and then the Holodomor starting in 1932.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was correct,
“You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.”
Mar 17, 2023·edited Mar 18, 2023Liked by Celia Farber
I think someone has to address head on the problem of what is, and what isn't, anti-semitism, and what criticisms of Jews and Judaism must be explored in order for us to understand and address what has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen if unchecked.
The idea that every Jew on the planet is part of an evil plot seems to me to be absurd - beyond the bounds of possibility. However none of the following ideas seem to be to be impossible:
(1) Throughout history groups of criminals have conspired to achieve nefarious aims, and from time to time, some of those criminals or criminal groups have been Jewish, or largely Jewish.
(2) Religions can have bad ideas which lead to evil outcomes. Obvious examples are the Aztecs and the Thugees. It is a possibility that Islam, Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion has such a flaw, either innately or grafted on.
(3) Secret societies infiltrate, and on occasion assume control of, organizations and institutions including governments and religions. It is not impossible that Judaism has been so infiltrated.
(4) If it is not possible to even raise these possibilities for discussion, then that in and of itself increases the chance that they will be correct, because a criminal who knows he cannot even be accused is far more likely to commit greater and greater crimes.
A thing is not incorrect just because the nazis said it. If Hitler says "the train leaves at 9am" and you show up at 9.05am you will miss the train.
The problem with the nazis was not that they invented Germany's betrayal in WW1 by (largely Jewish) bankers, or the involvement of those bankers with communism. I think both of those things are likely true even though this view is even more unpopular than the idea that AIDS is not caused by HIV or that covid is a scam.
The problem with the Nazis was that their entire philosophy was morally bankrupt and therefore, instead of according every man his rights and establishing the guilt or otherwise of a handful of men by trial for treason, the nazi solution was to define millions of innocent people as sub-human and punish them without any trial at all. And the effect of this moral bankruptcy was felt not just by the Jewish community, but by the elderly and disabled, gypsies and dissidents - and in the end the whole world.
A moral society may question any man or group or religion without ill consequences, because the moral society will accord those it accuses a fair trial and punish only those found guilty by the best available process. In an immoral society, where accusation is tantamount to guilt, then no man is safe. Thus no-one should fear any question or accusation. Rather we should fear a society where some men are superior to others, where questioners are punished merely for asking forbidden questions, and guilt is established by accusation, association, or group identity.
FWIW my own belief is that groups of Satanists (for lack of a better word, but use pagans if you prefer) have infiltrated *all* the major religions, and there are deeply evil groups working towards nefarious ends. A significant number of these people (although far from all of them) claim to be Jewish and they further claim that any criticism of them must be forbidden because Hitler also criticized them.
Fascinating. I feel like it's used in different ways. Those who believe the message who have never lived it, and those who either have lived it, or are aware of the horrors of those regimes. It's so divisive, even within the left. I talked to a lady about Iran at a Hands Off Iran protest for about 20 minutes, and she was so nice, and knowledgeable about Iran, then she left me with a handful of pamphlets about communism, saying "Cuba is the only country that ever got it right". In cases like that we are either forced to join together with a common goal, and ignore our differences, or stay divided. I find it interesting that no matter which way you turn, it's top-down corruption against the people with different messaging. Those on the "left" call it Fascism, and those on the "right" call it Communism. I'm having a harder time seeing the difference. It sometimes feels like anyone who stays true to their beliefs will end up politically homeless and isolated. I appreciate this discussion.
Thanks for this. I think that there is a lot of merit to what Miller is saying here.
But I think that there's another dimension here that needs to be considered. The whole time that the U.S. (and the whole "West") was (supposedly) fighting Communism, it was steadily and significantly becoming increasingly socialistic.
So there was a tremendous amount of hypocrisy among (most) politicians denouncing Communism and telling everyone how evil it was, while at the same time, building the foundation for it at home.
And that is very off-putting to anyone trying to get behind the "Cold War".
The anti-communist hate carried around by a dwindling fear-loving, weak as wokeass has turned an old friend of mine into anti-Putin rhetoric so ridiculous it reeks.
“ .. that was decades ago! “I attempt to explain. Deaf ears. Shame. But he’s in a fringe minority( lotsa that going around, try ottawa Chinada). Lol.
Recognizing the basic unity of Russian people despite such large regions should b easy for canadians. We too share a love for what is right, good and decent, despite wide regional differences. Love knows no boundaries geographically, racially or otherwise.
At Ottawa feb ‘22 the Sikhs hugged the Hindus. The English hugged the French. Etc etc. We were just People. A people. With a common love for each other. Man, you had to b there! The hair on my neck stirs with the emotion we displayed spontaneously. So that the bought-off MSM could ignore at their peril. We Helped each other. Melted blocks of frozen water for the dedicated coffee makers. Got notes of thanks written by kids from coast to coast on cookie bags. Threw $ at the fellas moving diesel. Shovelled streets perfect. Not one gum wrapper on the ground. Hockey games. Me, a referee! First time ever. An honour.
Look, anyone with disbelief in the Human Spirit, please. Know that your countrymen, women, thought not of themselves, but, in this war for Civilization, thought if You. Our compatriots. Constantly. It motivated us. I was there. Best place to be on all if Turtle Island. And the feds tried to take it. But couldn’t. And can never. 🚚🚚🚚🚜🚜🚜🇨🇦🇺🇸🌎🙏🏽
What intrigues me is that Americans, regardless of their views on fascism, communism, or socialism, Ignore our own governments’ and industrialists’ complicity and profiteering. It is unAmerican to even call it out. I took a picture of some graffiti on the wall of a bombed out area in HaNoi, translated from Viet it said, “Nixon, your blood debt will be paid.” I sent it to my cousin’s son (without the translation) as he is traveling in VN now, a break from one of the more prestigious colleges in the US. . I also sent a closeup picture of a tree growing out of an old French architectural building, greenish with moss. He texted back, “pretty pictures.” And it was not with irony.
While I understand Mr. Miller's point, the time for lending it any reverence is long past. Totalitarianism is here, the boot in our faces, and in its centralized planning bears a significant enough resemblance to the form all of his "villains" warned about for all members of the Labor Left, the Civil Liberties Lett, and every other brand of left wing critic to look in the mirror, search their souls, and say "Damnit, I got some very important things wrong!"
Mar 17, 2023·edited Mar 18, 2023Liked by Celia Farber
The Red Thread by Diana West, and of course, the also groundbreaking “McCarthy, Marshall and the Other International: Roosevelt, Trotsky, Stalin and America's Progressive Deep State”. by Oxford Scholar Joseph P Farrell.
"Evans, the director of the National Journalism Center who is writing his own book on Senator Joseph McCarthy, said "one of the most notorious myths is that the Wisconsin Senator never named any names of suspected communists in government. Holding up a file of material, Evans said, “Here are the names. Right here. Anybody who wants to can look at them.” He produced a letter that McCarthy sent to Senator Millard Tydings in 1950 in which he listed the names."
"The original list, which included numbers of cases and not names, was obtained by McCarthy after it was put together by congressional staffers. It was drawn from the files of the State Department itself. But McCarthy provided the cases to Tydings with the names attached. Critics have said over the years that the list was either outdated, blown out of proportion, that the individuals named were cleared by congressional committees, or that they were just mildly leftist. But none of that was true. Evans quoted from some of them: “…he furnished material to a known Soviet espionage agent…” and “…He is a known Communist Party member.”
"Evans said the biggest piece of disinformation was that these cases had been cleared by congressional hearings. This was false. The chairman of one committee said the information showed “a large number of communists on the rolls of the State Department.” He added, “It makes me wonder if there is any representation of the United States in the State Department.”
No. The problem was that Red Scare was cut short by the defeat of Joe McCarthy and purge never completed! The Establishment lead by the New York Times supported the Communists in the interest of Big Government, just as now.
Mar 18, 2023·edited Mar 18, 2023Liked by Celia Farber
I find Peterson, paling around with Netanyahu who offered up Israelis as lab-rats for Pfizer, uncompelling and too showmanship.
Also, always consider the source: A psychologist (a psuedo-science if there ever was one). If you should ever be seated in front of a psychologist or therapist or whatever they call themselves, know that they are putting on a whitecoat sham show that you pay for.
Don't bother with him. Don't let him summarize things for you dear reader. Instead, spend time with Cicero, Locke, Hobbs, Schopenhauer, et. al.; you'll be better for it.
Sidenote: As to the audience in that video, unable to hold their laughter when Peterson banaly says, "It takes about 150 pages to get going" referring to a book, what was so funny? Can't they sit, STFU, and seriously synthesize for a moment. This infantilized follower zeitgeist has me so sick.
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Communism and Fascism are both words that have become politicized in part to hide their true origins, which were the Global Elite, one time known as the Illuminati which was a real organization in the 18th and 19th century, but they organized into various factions in the 20th century before their unification at Rio in 1992z
The political nature of the words take the form of attacks on any idea the right or left does not like.
In any event, the Elite trialed Communism in Russia and China and Fascism in Germany and Italy and decided that Fascism was more to their tasted since it allowed them to have more wealth. But since Fascism was discredited the hid behind Anti-Communism and rebuilt the Third Reich. Most of the Nazis and those in the West who supported them never went to trial or if convicted were released early. Many ended up in US, Canada and Uk.
Fascism may be thought of as the synthesis of authoritarian Communism and Global Monopoly Capitalism. China, Russia and the West are all Fascist, both left and right (politically and economically) are united in their faith in public private partnerships which is the key ingredient of Fascism .
Much respect to professor Miller, but I think there is a blind spot amongst many - one you don’t have and one that if we don’t shine a light on, it’s game over.
https://www.atlassociety.org/post/can-there-be-an-after-socialism
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
The West accepts an epochal, monstrous, unforgivable double standard. We rehearse the crimes of Nazism almost daily, we teach them to our children as ultimate historical and moral lessons, and we bear witness to every victim. We are, with so few exceptions, almost silent on the crimes of Communism. So the bodies lie among us, unnoticed, everywhere. We insisted upon "de-Nazification," and we excoriate those who tempered it in the name of new or emerging political realities. There never has been and never will be a similar "de-Communization," although the slaughter of innocents was exponentially greater, and although those who signed the orders and ran the camps remain. In the case of Nazism, we hunt down ninety-year-old men because "the bones cry out" for justice. In the case of Communism, we insisted on "no witch hunts"—let the dead bury the living. But the dead can bury no one.
It’s absolutely astounding how few people know about the left wing, Bolshevik political violence in Germany during the early 1900’s, such as the German (November) Revolution of 1918, the Spartacist uprising of 1918, and the general violence and political assassinations occurring on the streets of Germany from 1918-1933.
This, AFTER the Bolsheviks overthrew the Russian Monarchy and murdered the Romanov family, in 1918, and then the Holodomor starting in 1932.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was correct,
“You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.”
I think someone has to address head on the problem of what is, and what isn't, anti-semitism, and what criticisms of Jews and Judaism must be explored in order for us to understand and address what has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen if unchecked.
The idea that every Jew on the planet is part of an evil plot seems to me to be absurd - beyond the bounds of possibility. However none of the following ideas seem to be to be impossible:
(1) Throughout history groups of criminals have conspired to achieve nefarious aims, and from time to time, some of those criminals or criminal groups have been Jewish, or largely Jewish.
(2) Religions can have bad ideas which lead to evil outcomes. Obvious examples are the Aztecs and the Thugees. It is a possibility that Islam, Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion has such a flaw, either innately or grafted on.
(3) Secret societies infiltrate, and on occasion assume control of, organizations and institutions including governments and religions. It is not impossible that Judaism has been so infiltrated.
(4) If it is not possible to even raise these possibilities for discussion, then that in and of itself increases the chance that they will be correct, because a criminal who knows he cannot even be accused is far more likely to commit greater and greater crimes.
A thing is not incorrect just because the nazis said it. If Hitler says "the train leaves at 9am" and you show up at 9.05am you will miss the train.
The problem with the nazis was not that they invented Germany's betrayal in WW1 by (largely Jewish) bankers, or the involvement of those bankers with communism. I think both of those things are likely true even though this view is even more unpopular than the idea that AIDS is not caused by HIV or that covid is a scam.
The problem with the Nazis was that their entire philosophy was morally bankrupt and therefore, instead of according every man his rights and establishing the guilt or otherwise of a handful of men by trial for treason, the nazi solution was to define millions of innocent people as sub-human and punish them without any trial at all. And the effect of this moral bankruptcy was felt not just by the Jewish community, but by the elderly and disabled, gypsies and dissidents - and in the end the whole world.
A moral society may question any man or group or religion without ill consequences, because the moral society will accord those it accuses a fair trial and punish only those found guilty by the best available process. In an immoral society, where accusation is tantamount to guilt, then no man is safe. Thus no-one should fear any question or accusation. Rather we should fear a society where some men are superior to others, where questioners are punished merely for asking forbidden questions, and guilt is established by accusation, association, or group identity.
FWIW my own belief is that groups of Satanists (for lack of a better word, but use pagans if you prefer) have infiltrated *all* the major religions, and there are deeply evil groups working towards nefarious ends. A significant number of these people (although far from all of them) claim to be Jewish and they further claim that any criticism of them must be forbidden because Hitler also criticized them.
Fascinating. I feel like it's used in different ways. Those who believe the message who have never lived it, and those who either have lived it, or are aware of the horrors of those regimes. It's so divisive, even within the left. I talked to a lady about Iran at a Hands Off Iran protest for about 20 minutes, and she was so nice, and knowledgeable about Iran, then she left me with a handful of pamphlets about communism, saying "Cuba is the only country that ever got it right". In cases like that we are either forced to join together with a common goal, and ignore our differences, or stay divided. I find it interesting that no matter which way you turn, it's top-down corruption against the people with different messaging. Those on the "left" call it Fascism, and those on the "right" call it Communism. I'm having a harder time seeing the difference. It sometimes feels like anyone who stays true to their beliefs will end up politically homeless and isolated. I appreciate this discussion.
Communism is Satanism. Always was - always will be!
Thanks for this. I think that there is a lot of merit to what Miller is saying here.
But I think that there's another dimension here that needs to be considered. The whole time that the U.S. (and the whole "West") was (supposedly) fighting Communism, it was steadily and significantly becoming increasingly socialistic.
So there was a tremendous amount of hypocrisy among (most) politicians denouncing Communism and telling everyone how evil it was, while at the same time, building the foundation for it at home.
And that is very off-putting to anyone trying to get behind the "Cold War".
The anti-communist hate carried around by a dwindling fear-loving, weak as wokeass has turned an old friend of mine into anti-Putin rhetoric so ridiculous it reeks.
“ .. that was decades ago! “I attempt to explain. Deaf ears. Shame. But he’s in a fringe minority( lotsa that going around, try ottawa Chinada). Lol.
Recognizing the basic unity of Russian people despite such large regions should b easy for canadians. We too share a love for what is right, good and decent, despite wide regional differences. Love knows no boundaries geographically, racially or otherwise.
At Ottawa feb ‘22 the Sikhs hugged the Hindus. The English hugged the French. Etc etc. We were just People. A people. With a common love for each other. Man, you had to b there! The hair on my neck stirs with the emotion we displayed spontaneously. So that the bought-off MSM could ignore at their peril. We Helped each other. Melted blocks of frozen water for the dedicated coffee makers. Got notes of thanks written by kids from coast to coast on cookie bags. Threw $ at the fellas moving diesel. Shovelled streets perfect. Not one gum wrapper on the ground. Hockey games. Me, a referee! First time ever. An honour.
Look, anyone with disbelief in the Human Spirit, please. Know that your countrymen, women, thought not of themselves, but, in this war for Civilization, thought if You. Our compatriots. Constantly. It motivated us. I was there. Best place to be on all if Turtle Island. And the feds tried to take it. But couldn’t. And can never. 🚚🚚🚚🚜🚜🚜🇨🇦🇺🇸🌎🙏🏽
What intrigues me is that Americans, regardless of their views on fascism, communism, or socialism, Ignore our own governments’ and industrialists’ complicity and profiteering. It is unAmerican to even call it out. I took a picture of some graffiti on the wall of a bombed out area in HaNoi, translated from Viet it said, “Nixon, your blood debt will be paid.” I sent it to my cousin’s son (without the translation) as he is traveling in VN now, a break from one of the more prestigious colleges in the US. . I also sent a closeup picture of a tree growing out of an old French architectural building, greenish with moss. He texted back, “pretty pictures.” And it was not with irony.
Yes, indeed.
Question. We are attacked from all sides: our freedom, our food . . . even our right to inhale fresh air. How do we stop these monsters?
Luc
While I understand Mr. Miller's point, the time for lending it any reverence is long past. Totalitarianism is here, the boot in our faces, and in its centralized planning bears a significant enough resemblance to the form all of his "villains" warned about for all members of the Labor Left, the Civil Liberties Lett, and every other brand of left wing critic to look in the mirror, search their souls, and say "Damnit, I got some very important things wrong!"
The Red Thread by Diana West, and of course, the also groundbreaking “McCarthy, Marshall and the Other International: Roosevelt, Trotsky, Stalin and America's Progressive Deep State”. by Oxford Scholar Joseph P Farrell.
Vilified as a kook, Sen. McCarthy was actually on to a huge problem at the time.
From Accuracy in Media by Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid on February 22, 2000 https://www.aim.org/media-monitor/joe-mccarthy-was-right/
"Evans, the director of the National Journalism Center who is writing his own book on Senator Joseph McCarthy, said "one of the most notorious myths is that the Wisconsin Senator never named any names of suspected communists in government. Holding up a file of material, Evans said, “Here are the names. Right here. Anybody who wants to can look at them.” He produced a letter that McCarthy sent to Senator Millard Tydings in 1950 in which he listed the names."
"The original list, which included numbers of cases and not names, was obtained by McCarthy after it was put together by congressional staffers. It was drawn from the files of the State Department itself. But McCarthy provided the cases to Tydings with the names attached. Critics have said over the years that the list was either outdated, blown out of proportion, that the individuals named were cleared by congressional committees, or that they were just mildly leftist. But none of that was true. Evans quoted from some of them: “…he furnished material to a known Soviet espionage agent…” and “…He is a known Communist Party member.”
"Evans said the biggest piece of disinformation was that these cases had been cleared by congressional hearings. This was false. The chairman of one committee said the information showed “a large number of communists on the rolls of the State Department.” He added, “It makes me wonder if there is any representation of the United States in the State Department.”
No. The problem was that Red Scare was cut short by the defeat of Joe McCarthy and purge never completed! The Establishment lead by the New York Times supported the Communists in the interest of Big Government, just as now.
I find Peterson, paling around with Netanyahu who offered up Israelis as lab-rats for Pfizer, uncompelling and too showmanship.
Also, always consider the source: A psychologist (a psuedo-science if there ever was one). If you should ever be seated in front of a psychologist or therapist or whatever they call themselves, know that they are putting on a whitecoat sham show that you pay for.
Don't bother with him. Don't let him summarize things for you dear reader. Instead, spend time with Cicero, Locke, Hobbs, Schopenhauer, et. al.; you'll be better for it.
Sidenote: As to the audience in that video, unable to hold their laughter when Peterson banaly says, "It takes about 150 pages to get going" referring to a book, what was so funny? Can't they sit, STFU, and seriously synthesize for a moment. This infantilized follower zeitgeist has me so sick.
Communism and Fascism are both words that have become politicized in part to hide their true origins, which were the Global Elite, one time known as the Illuminati which was a real organization in the 18th and 19th century, but they organized into various factions in the 20th century before their unification at Rio in 1992z
The political nature of the words take the form of attacks on any idea the right or left does not like.
In any event, the Elite trialed Communism in Russia and China and Fascism in Germany and Italy and decided that Fascism was more to their tasted since it allowed them to have more wealth. But since Fascism was discredited the hid behind Anti-Communism and rebuilt the Third Reich. Most of the Nazis and those in the West who supported them never went to trial or if convicted were released early. Many ended up in US, Canada and Uk.
Fascism may be thought of as the synthesis of authoritarian Communism and Global Monopoly Capitalism. China, Russia and the West are all Fascist, both left and right (politically and economically) are united in their faith in public private partnerships which is the key ingredient of Fascism .
What about green communism?
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/best-scientific-sources-to-debunk
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/killing-me-softly-with-green-songs
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/carbon-reparations
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/climate-deaths