What would their motive be? Maybe if you've been hired to take part as an actor in a long-term social engineering psyop you want to retire one day and enjoy your money quietly somewhere? Remember, "The Truman Show" is a documentary ;)
Do you live close to NYC Celia? I sincerely wish to walk you through a crash course in the subject of Bowie's death. There is a "there" there, in a manner, but not in the nefarious way so many half-assed analyses conjecture. Maybe someday we can cross paths.
The hallmark of journalistic and scholarly integrity is the capacity to acknowledge mistakes and correct them, remaining consistent with the commitment to properly sourced and cited facts and claims. Farber's update of the previous post reflects that integrity and reinforces her work in general especially topics more controversial and politically charged.
1. Right about recognizing an error for lack of information. This raises your trustworthiness!
2. Right about questioning. These days, excessive paranoia is a virtue:
For example:
There's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the mason Georgia guide-stones:
- Both Churchill and Roosevelt were masons and plotted to get the reluctant USA into the war by provoking the Japs and letting Pearl Harbor (left the whole fleet defenseless and concentrated there as an easy candy to be taken from a kid, no radar warning from outer islands, etc.)
- 9/11: 2 "planes", yet the third tower that imploded (WTC7) was out of reach and all 7 World Trade Center towers destroyed, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center, and the owner with his 2 grown up siblings failed to show up for work (never skipped work before)...
- J6: The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil!
- At least since the 90s, vaccines were weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
- It’s the masons, who create counterfeited currencies (trillions of dollars and EUROS) and bought the listed corporations, media, healthcare, universities, parties and political careers:
Pllllleeeeease, on my knees, don’t believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com, and maybe yandex.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
PS I'm sorry I'm linking to my own substack. It’s not self-promotion: I couldn’t find better links but if you find anything better, I'd be glad to replace.
I knew David Bowie in the 1960s. We both went to the same club, the Marquee in Wardour St, London. He was in the 'IN' crowd and I was an underage interloper along with Phil Collins. We used to sneak in by the back door - I was 15 when I first met Bowie.
He was an arrogant, self obsessed wannabe who dressed outrageously and effeminately. His whole crowd were art students and from among them came Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd and the Herd. Bowie did not play an instrument - his body was his artform. His mannerisms and movements screamed 'Look at me!' - I really was shocked when he made his first single - https://youtu.be/5SQdBxVjZx4 in 1967. We took the piss out of him, relentlessly over that.
He was a laughing stock at the time.
Anyway, just to confirm that Jack Steven isn't David Bowie. Jack's accent is more Essex than London and floppy haired old hippies are ten-a-penny in the UK!
HOWEVER -
I think David Bowie was rich enough and devious enough to fake his death. I didn't believe it at the time and fully expect that he is holed up on some top luxury island with Epstein and Elvis.
Why not? Anything is possible these days! Ciao, Celia, I thought you took this all magnificently.... we all make mistakes. Glad you brought it up tho..... Gave me a chance to sling my own handful of dirt at one of the celebs.... xx
Frances, fascinating perspective. Have you written about this part of your life? I'd love to read it. In fact, I'd love to publish it. Please consider!
I have mentioned events from the 60s in many of my articles and comments. Peter Frampton read one of my comments on his You Tube account and got in touch last year - that was amazing! I thought he was wonderful when I was only 15 and he was 16, but he went to San Francisco, like Fleetwood Mac. It was really unexpected when, in 1975 they both released albums and I already knew several of their songs. I always wondered why it took them so long to succeed - then I smoked my first spliff and I realised what had slowed them down!!
ps
My best 1960s memory happened in 1968 when I was 16 years old. I was window shopping in Carnaby Street in London when a couple stopped me in the street and asked me a few questions about the Beatles. When I answered all the questions correctly (being a big fan) - they gave me two tickets for a ride on 'The Magical Mystery Tour' and told me to be colourfully dressed at 5pm the following Saturday afternoon at Kings Cross Railway Station. A madly painted bus picked us all up and delivered us to a huge building, like an aircraft hangar.
I went with a male friend and we took part in rehearsals and recording of 'Hey Jude' just prior to its release. We sang along with the Beatles and I met Yoko Ono who was sitting under a tall camera tripod. She was meditating and I asked her what she was doing. That led me to transcendental meditation and studying eastern philosophy.
The film was on TV the following week and my friends at school were stunned to see me standing on stage with the Beatles, singing my silly head off! It was amazing, Celia, a real treat and an excellent story to repeat over the years ever since!
Oi Celia, i hope you're reading this. I'm very surprised nobody checked on archive.org on this whole thing. I just did, and it turns out, the website of jack steven's label "fortress-music.com”, which he apparently created in 2013 was first archived on january 15th 2016, which suggests that this website was created right at the moment of his sky news appearance. If that is true, it's a significant clue towards fake death
Mr Jones was/is a good actor, whatever else you may think of him. Working on, and mastering a different accent wouldn't be super hard for him, in my opinion. Being a singer/voice person myself, I find it uncanny how Mr Steven's voice sounds VERY much like Mr Jones' speaking voice. And that little dimple on the side of the cheek, and the teeth... The nose is an easy fix. Good thing his hairdo covers the ears because they are usually extremely characteristic. Mr "Biden" is a case in point here. But maybe Mr B he just got an ear-job :-) May you live in interesting times...
He sure did look good in all kinds of clothes. I have never understood who he really was where he came from. Liked some of the music ok. My mother was very taken with The Man Who Fell To Earth and sort of made me watch it as a child. Not made me exactly. I remember when he yelled "LEAVE MY MIND ALONE!"
Thanks, yes, following on from book about Cromwell Road. This other one was started earlier but just goes on,... am editing it down but also filling in gaps.
Ginger Breggin here. Wow. Celia thanks for your honesty and correction.
We (those of us trying to figure out this world) are being bombarded by stimulus and distraction from every direction. I think of it as a swarming...lots of shock and awe in the data streams to throw us all off examining global predation, the globalists and the end of the free world. (It died, and we are only now realizing it...) So I try to focus on the fundamental, species-killing issues, and fundamental first freedoms that lay the groundwork for men and women to be free again. That is my hill. Name the crimes, document them. Identify the shadow elite behind them. Speak my truth and always remember it is not over until I give up. God bless you and everyone who is not giving up.
Here is my list of primary crimes against humanity.
Please see josephsansone.substack.com. Dr. Sansone has written a Ban the Jab resolution which has been approved at the county level by Republicans in Florida, Idaho and New Jersey. Please also see jamesroguski.substack.com for the latest pushback against the WHO IHRs which are guaranteed, if adopted, to put us at the mercy of the pharmacological medical industrial complex. These fine gentlemen have a great online conversation on Rumble. We need more collaboration on these issues and what we all can do on local levels.
Thank you Ginger. It is worth remembering though that this kind of deception was part of the psyop now reaching culmination, and the biggest part of it was performed in 1966. You know you can get away with anything if you can replace the most famous man on the planet with a low-quality substitute who is flaunted ostentatiously in your face for the next 27 years at least, and people simply argue among themselves in carefully curated groups (I heard a patronising person on BBC Radio news today explaining to the plebs how much easier it is to 'radicalise' people with help from an internet than without, because .people of like mind tend to gather together - like us here... oh dear.
PIDders lose me when they claim Faul is low talent. He's obviously as musically brilliant as the "real Paul" if not more brilliant, given his subsequent oeuvre. It's silly to assert otherwise.
I didn't mention talent though, I merely claimed he was a low-quality substitute. However, talent or otherwise is not really the point here; it's more the murdery replacement vibes, and subsequent crackdown on any mention of what those involved were subjected to. And there were many of them, and those still around remain traumatised and fearful. And as I said, it was a good test of just how much could be got away with in full view of the entire world.
Yes, this is not a game for newbies. Jack Stevens doesn't even look like Bowie, to me, but that's nothing. What I do want to put on the table is the strangeness around Bowie's last days. He released a photo of himself in beaming good health. And dropped the album the following week or whatever, BlackStar was it. Well that's fine, but the one item at the time which got me was the video clip from the single which had Bowie going into a closet at the end. That scene, and nothing else, made me think he had faked his death. But what do I know, I'm a newbie at this too. Somewhere there is an island with dead celebrities all at the bar wishing maybe they hadn't been so hasty.
IIRC Bowie had a diagnosis of Parkinson's (or a similar devastating disease) and he did not want to decline that way. Similar to Robin Williams knowing he had something really wrong (it was FTD, which actually has a similar dementia to the dementia that sometimes accompanies Parkinson's). I have witnessed these diseases and especially the related dementias. I would have a very LONG talk with God about the path forward if I received one of those life sentences. It is NOT pretty and I can very much understand the reasoning that was given in both Bowie's and Williams' situations.
I witnessed, first hand, two people very close to me. Years before their dementia set in, they knew something was wrong. They did not want to tell people, but confided their doubts quietly to the closest people in their lives. Both of these people looked GREAT and could put on a show for the world. But inside, they dreaded what was to come. RIP
This is the first I have ever heard such a conjecture about both figures.
Bowie had Pancreatic Cancer; it comes on fast. Also, he had been planning for a theatrical shoving off for at least 20 years, to make his death his final performance piece, appreciating full well the nature of his iconic celebrity & wishing to make a teaching lesson of it & a marker for future generations. His death's exquisite premeditation & theatrical renderings should not be taken for fakery. The message he was attempting to make would not work in the context of such a profanation as faking it would represent. The discrete moment of it was almost certainly premeditated to fit a calendrical geometry for the birth of his final works, but it must have been fairly ad hoc, and to call it suicide would be foolish. I realize you didn't use that word, but such is the elephant in the room.
According to his intimate friend, Bobcat Goldthwait, Robbin Williams was coming off of anti-depressants too fast, which notoriously induce suicidal ideation & not-infrequently suicidal fulfillment. Surely we can all understand why that part of the narrative has not been promoted.
Any assessment of Bowie's death as suicide is akin to calling hospice morphine administered to a chronic patient a "suicide." Technically it's true, but in spirit, missing the mark entirely. He just happened to have one of the world's most intricate Last Rites, which confuses people, especially people who have never attempted to make art themselves, and so have no context to understand artifice. Many journalists qualify.
Not so fast! Since I am actually the third smartest guy in the world, I am qualified to comment.
There seems to be a ruse of sorts going on. Why does the 2nd smartest's post refer to both Steven and Stevens as if they are two different people? This paragraph especially: "Later in 1981, Steven told the head of RCA to keep Eurythmics and drop the rest of the bands that RCA had signed. (Steven was unaware that RCA had actually just dropped the band.) Steven gained a reputation as hard to handle and was almost fired from RCA three times. Jack Stevens was a huge source of help and provided a lot of assistance." So who is Jack Stevens? The uncle of Jack Steven? I would say a monkey's uncle, but the dates for The Monkeys do not match up.
I'm with you. Just doing a little searching for Jack Steven and his supposed A&R victories is pretty fruitless. His Linkedin page (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacksteven/) is dormant, apart from the Sky Interview and a mention of him speaking on Channel 4 in 20217. And some link to a music video that supposedly is tied to 3fifty7. His "Fortress Music" seems to be fake or non-existent at this time (website defunct). Looking for his other connection 3fifty7 is equally a dead end (apart from one or two videos, website address links to an instagram account). Memento Social seems to exist but it's impossible to get much meat on the bones. I'm mostly concerned with that all the stuff the 2nd smartest guy is claiming but which he shares no sources for... Oh well. David Robert Jones, I hope you're enjoying your existence on whatever dimension you're on... The more I look into this, the more I want it to be him in that Sky Interview, haha.... My main point: If someone, allegedly, is an A&R legend who discovered all these bands and artists, wouldn't they AT LEAST have a stinking Wiki page? Answer: They would, and he hasn't. As far as I can see, that is.
The article this post points to is gone. Cube Nine's website is dead... the more I try to find stuff the more fun it is haha.... I doff my cap to Mr Jones :-)
The problem with that problem is that any dastardly Cabal worth its salt would simply have fabricated a plausible Wiki entry; so it doesn't make sense to imply they made such an elementary mistake. What is this, a Keystone Konspiracy...?
They/he fabricated a lousy Linkedin profile, a few FB posts (with the"bio") and an IMDB page, then they ran out of money :-). I'd like to think of it in a positive way. He wanted out and had the means and the guts to pull it off, cabal or no cabal... Will we ever know? Like with so many things these days, probably not. BTW, I wonder if he got the jab :-) (assuming it is Mr Jones and he is still alive).
It's probably not plausible for someone of Bowie's fame to get away with faking his own death all by himself. It would require some cooperation by various people in the Mainstream. This in turn indicates a Cabal behind it, as it's unlikely a bunch of relatively unrelated Mainstream people would collaborate on something like this (and collaboration includes covering it up afterwards). So my objection stands.
Of course he needed cooperation from enough people to make it work. I’m just saying it doesn’t have to be sinister… So let’s say it’s not Mr Jones. Who TF is this Steven guy who is pretty unfindable, and WHY do this weird interview with this nobody? It makes no sense. Like most everything else these days:-)
Bingo. Just like when we read any headline, or even the "source" article/vid. What if it's ALL a sham. What if Celia Farber doesn't exist? :) Oh well, time to re-order from the Wellness Company and know that all the right ducks are lined up there. Then to ponder the Malone funnies. Oh..., don't forget:
According to a commenter Robert Bystrom, that 2nd Smartest Guy's timeline would mean that "[a]t age 14 Steven was, among other notable positions, the international manager of Essex Music. Thanks for giving us an accurate timeline of this marvelous person who is not David Bowie."
Where the Linked- in biog says "During the years spanning from 1970 to 1980", it could be interpreted to mean "During the 1970s", so he might not have been working in the early years of that decade.
Could it be that Jack Steven is a real person and David Bowie was a character played by several different actors, one of whom was Jack Steven?
He says in that Channel 4 interview he started at age 16.
The way commenters on these threads use the phrase "A&R executive" it sounds like "A&R" is the name of a company -- but in fact, apparently, it's just a field of endeavor within the music industry:
"So, what is A&R in music? A&R is the department of a record label that, historically, is responsible for talent" -- standing for "Arts and Repertoire".
So the logical next step is to find out in WHICH COMPANY Stevens dealt with "A&R".
Maybe it is just me, maybe I've known too many 20yos (career hazard), but even if we're talking about the final years of the 80's, it seems like a stretch .
I spent weeks looking up info on Steven when I saw that TV interview originally, just after Bowie's dramatic exit. Very little of what's being talked about here was findable then. I did find the old clip of Steven in the garden, and one other video, very blurry, of someone ho as supposed to be him giving a lecture in a darkened room. Regardless of whether it was Bowie being interviewed (or whether it was Bowie in the Black Star video, or in the so-called last photo, without socks) it sure as hell wasn't Jack Steven (if that was him in the garden). Perchance old schoolmate Dave Stewart may be more forthcoming than when I asked about Macca....
Yeah, so that this "legendary A&R person" is virtually invisible on the internet is super strange... The jury is definitely out on this one. Except of course for the Reddit thread that cites no sources even when people ask for them.
I did the same digging this morning and soon found the Reddit post reprinted above. Which, without sauce means absolutely nothing. Jack Steven has no internet presence. Fortress has vanished. I can find no pictures of him. David Bowie was of course the creation of Davy Jones, so when it was announced that Bowie was dead it doesn't mean that Jones is dead.
FWIW when Bowie's death was announced I immediately thought that Jones was terminally ill and wished to live out the remainder of his life out of the public eye. Now I'm not so sure. That was Davy Jones being interviewed. Betcha.
Don't confuse us even more, Phillip. Davy Jones was a Monkee, who passed on in 2012 and didn't look a bit like Bowie or Steven. Davy died at the age of 67 of a sudden heart attack while tending to his horses at a farm in Indiantown, Florida.
I don't know if he was jabbed. Or if he faked his death in order to live an even quieter life somewhere. But late sixties was not an unusual age for British men of his generation to die.
There was a lot of malnutrition in the immediate postwar years when they were infants. And there was a lot of drinking and smoking and partying and popping pills and injecting drugs going on among the Woodstock generation. Frankly, I'm amazed any of them are still with us.
Jim Morrison, whose father was a spook, allegedly faked his own death. He later came back as Rush Limbaugh. And no-one noticed. I have not researched this BTW, nor have I really compared photos - I'm parroting what I read.
I can't really comment on Morrison as I didn't watch it happen in real time.. Bowie's death was very strange though, cremated in secret within a few days. I also find the death of Prince shortly afterwards suspicious.
Hi Celia, but the guy who did the Sky interview is not the same guy on the 'Dallas' interview. So the actual Jack Steven may exist but it was a different guy in the Sky interview. The eyes are not the same....in my opinion...:-)
1. Right about recognizing an error for lack of information. This raises your trustworthiness!
2. Right about questioning. These days, excessive paranoia is a virtue:
For example:
There's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the mason Georgia guide-stones:
- Both Churchill and Roosevelt were masons and plotted to get the reluctant USA into the war by provoking the Japs and letting Pearl Harbor (left the whole fleet defenseless and concentrated there as an easy candy to be taken from a kid, no radar warning from outer islands, etc.)
- 9/11: 2 "planes", yet the third tower that imploded (WTC7) was out of reach and all 7 World Trade Center towers destroyed, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center, and the owner with his 2 grown up siblings failed to show up for work (never skipped work before)...
- J6: The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil!
- At least since the 90s, vaccines were weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
- It’s the masons, who create counterfeited currencies (trillions of dollars and EUROS) and bought the listed corporations, media, healthcare, universities, parties and political careers:
Pllllleeeeease, on my knees, don’t believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com, and maybe yandex.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
PS I'm sorry I'm linking to my own substack. It’s not self-promotion: I couldn’t find better links but if you find anything better, I'd be glad to replace.
In 1970 he was 14. The timeline says "~From 1970‐1980, Stevens claims he was the International Manager and Profession Manager for companies such as Essex Music, Dick James Music, and Chappell Music ". Yeah... not so much methinks. And where exactly are these claims, except on dead end social media posts... And his IMBD page LOL
And so you can check out Jack Steven’s Linkedin, and you find a web adress for Fortress Music. Yeah... fortress-music.com. This whole thing is pretty strange. JS other appearance is on Channel 4 a year later when he talks about sexual abuse in the music industry. Bottom line: people with money and power can get away with anything. Even faking their own deaths. I’m not saying it is like that, but I suggest you do your own research on JS and see what you find...
This topic is a very typical demonstration of emotion and belief reigning supreme; reasoning nowhere in the mix.
Even if everything in the guest opinion is factual, none of it addresses in the least the question at hand, which was 'are Bowie and Steven the same person?'
And that history of Steven, if true, adds to the evidence that he wasn't some random 14-year-old who landed a high-level executive job in the music industry. It would say that he's from a ruling-elite family, and just so happens to look like a twin of Bowie. Add all of the hints Bowie dropped before his 'death', the contrived nature of the media reaction, the hints that Steven drops in this interview, and how completely at-home Steven is in front of the camera, add weight to suspicion that they could be the same person.
So I'm curious, Celia, how the guest opinion helped change your mind, when it doesn't address the question?
Why are people so addicted to asserting a belief one way or the other and pretending it's 'fact' and/or evidence-based and rational?
This is precisely why the masses of humanity have been manipulated by a small elite class for all of human history. Virtually the entire 'alternative' media plays the same irrational games as their mainstream brethren.
Also it's stunning for the least that the 2 women in the sky interview don't even mention the obvious similarity between steven and bowie, instead all 3 smirk and grin constantly, no expression of sadness. Way to go Lazarus ;)
I'm catching up on comments. I did not know this was a thing, until last night.
I hope we can all remain friends. Surely this is not a friendship-ender. It seems we have a split vote, which is typical of these quicksands.
Rudimentary question: Why would a celebrity, a star, of his age, do something this weird, at the end of their life? What would their motive be?
It's hard to be a newbie and have to ask naive questions.
I did look at the 2 Pauls, couple years ago. That one seems very possible.
I eventually had to get off the train because it was too chilling. It was scary in a way that I had to move away from.
What would their motive be? Maybe if you've been hired to take part as an actor in a long-term social engineering psyop you want to retire one day and enjoy your money quietly somewhere? Remember, "The Truman Show" is a documentary ;)
Do you live close to NYC Celia? I sincerely wish to walk you through a crash course in the subject of Bowie's death. There is a "there" there, in a manner, but not in the nefarious way so many half-assed analyses conjecture. Maybe someday we can cross paths.
-Matt
The hallmark of journalistic and scholarly integrity is the capacity to acknowledge mistakes and correct them, remaining consistent with the commitment to properly sourced and cited facts and claims. Farber's update of the previous post reflects that integrity and reinforces her work in general especially topics more controversial and politically charged.
Celia was RIGHT, even if wrong!
1. Right about recognizing an error for lack of information. This raises your trustworthiness!
2. Right about questioning. These days, excessive paranoia is a virtue:
For example:
There's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the mason Georgia guide-stones:
- Both Churchill and Roosevelt were masons and plotted to get the reluctant USA into the war by provoking the Japs and letting Pearl Harbor (left the whole fleet defenseless and concentrated there as an easy candy to be taken from a kid, no radar warning from outer islands, etc.)
- 9/11: 2 "planes", yet the third tower that imploded (WTC7) was out of reach and all 7 World Trade Center towers destroyed, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center, and the owner with his 2 grown up siblings failed to show up for work (never skipped work before)...
- J6: The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know
It's such a mason manual that they organized the same play in Brazil when it was proven that the voting machines owned by mason Soros, were rigged:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us
- At least since the 90s, vaccines were weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
Check soundchoice.org or videos at bottom after this page:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
- COVID was designed as a primer for lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with
- Wake up videos:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/2050-youll-go-nowhere-and-youll-be
- It's genocide for depopulation:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth
- It’s the masons, who create counterfeited currencies (trillions of dollars and EUROS) and bought the listed corporations, media, healthcare, universities, parties and political careers:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati
Confessions of ex-illuminati Ronald Bernard (all lodges obey the same master, Satan):
http://youtu.be/JAhnCdXqPww
Now, are you really ready for this?:
The full PLAN exposed:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed
16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
Pllllleeeeease, on my knees, don’t believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com, and maybe yandex.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rpn5aj/i_have_found_the_perfect_uncensored_search_engines/
https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com/uncensored-search-engines-for-anonymous-searching/
PS I'm sorry I'm linking to my own substack. It’s not self-promotion: I couldn’t find better links but if you find anything better, I'd be glad to replace.
🙌
I am spannering these works! Haha!
I knew David Bowie in the 1960s. We both went to the same club, the Marquee in Wardour St, London. He was in the 'IN' crowd and I was an underage interloper along with Phil Collins. We used to sneak in by the back door - I was 15 when I first met Bowie.
He was an arrogant, self obsessed wannabe who dressed outrageously and effeminately. His whole crowd were art students and from among them came Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd and the Herd. Bowie did not play an instrument - his body was his artform. His mannerisms and movements screamed 'Look at me!' - I really was shocked when he made his first single - https://youtu.be/5SQdBxVjZx4 in 1967. We took the piss out of him, relentlessly over that.
He was a laughing stock at the time.
Anyway, just to confirm that Jack Steven isn't David Bowie. Jack's accent is more Essex than London and floppy haired old hippies are ten-a-penny in the UK!
HOWEVER -
I think David Bowie was rich enough and devious enough to fake his death. I didn't believe it at the time and fully expect that he is holed up on some top luxury island with Epstein and Elvis.
Why not? Anything is possible these days! Ciao, Celia, I thought you took this all magnificently.... we all make mistakes. Glad you brought it up tho..... Gave me a chance to sling my own handful of dirt at one of the celebs.... xx
Frances, fascinating perspective. Have you written about this part of your life? I'd love to read it. In fact, I'd love to publish it. Please consider!
I have mentioned events from the 60s in many of my articles and comments. Peter Frampton read one of my comments on his You Tube account and got in touch last year - that was amazing! I thought he was wonderful when I was only 15 and he was 16, but he went to San Francisco, like Fleetwood Mac. It was really unexpected when, in 1975 they both released albums and I already knew several of their songs. I always wondered why it took them so long to succeed - then I smoked my first spliff and I realised what had slowed them down!!
ps
My best 1960s memory happened in 1968 when I was 16 years old. I was window shopping in Carnaby Street in London when a couple stopped me in the street and asked me a few questions about the Beatles. When I answered all the questions correctly (being a big fan) - they gave me two tickets for a ride on 'The Magical Mystery Tour' and told me to be colourfully dressed at 5pm the following Saturday afternoon at Kings Cross Railway Station. A madly painted bus picked us all up and delivered us to a huge building, like an aircraft hangar.
I went with a male friend and we took part in rehearsals and recording of 'Hey Jude' just prior to its release. We sang along with the Beatles and I met Yoko Ono who was sitting under a tall camera tripod. She was meditating and I asked her what she was doing. That led me to transcendental meditation and studying eastern philosophy.
The film was on TV the following week and my friends at school were stunned to see me standing on stage with the Beatles, singing my silly head off! It was amazing, Celia, a real treat and an excellent story to repeat over the years ever since!
Oi Celia, i hope you're reading this. I'm very surprised nobody checked on archive.org on this whole thing. I just did, and it turns out, the website of jack steven's label "fortress-music.com”, which he apparently created in 2013 was first archived on january 15th 2016, which suggests that this website was created right at the moment of his sky news appearance. If that is true, it's a significant clue towards fake death
Mr Jones was/is a good actor, whatever else you may think of him. Working on, and mastering a different accent wouldn't be super hard for him, in my opinion. Being a singer/voice person myself, I find it uncanny how Mr Steven's voice sounds VERY much like Mr Jones' speaking voice. And that little dimple on the side of the cheek, and the teeth... The nose is an easy fix. Good thing his hairdo covers the ears because they are usually extremely characteristic. Mr "Biden" is a case in point here. But maybe Mr B he just got an ear-job :-) May you live in interesting times...
you make good points.
When you actually know someone their identity is easy for you.
David Bowie was a lot less craggy than Jack Steven.
A lot less craggy. Yes.
He sure did look good in all kinds of clothes. I have never understood who he really was where he came from. Liked some of the music ok. My mother was very taken with The Man Who Fell To Earth and sort of made me watch it as a child. Not made me exactly. I remember when he yelled "LEAVE MY MIND ALONE!"
Agree.
Fascinating, Frances. I may need to pick your brains as I'm working on '67 and the Bowies feature in one important section.
I love cross pollination. Keep us posted. Working on 67? The year?
Thanks, yes, following on from book about Cromwell Road. This other one was started earlier but just goes on,... am editing it down but also filling in gaps.
Thank you. Good story. Tell me you met Freddie.
No, Freddie was much younger, bless him.
Ginger Breggin here. Wow. Celia thanks for your honesty and correction.
We (those of us trying to figure out this world) are being bombarded by stimulus and distraction from every direction. I think of it as a swarming...lots of shock and awe in the data streams to throw us all off examining global predation, the globalists and the end of the free world. (It died, and we are only now realizing it...) So I try to focus on the fundamental, species-killing issues, and fundamental first freedoms that lay the groundwork for men and women to be free again. That is my hill. Name the crimes, document them. Identify the shadow elite behind them. Speak my truth and always remember it is not over until I give up. God bless you and everyone who is not giving up.
Here is my list of primary crimes against humanity.
https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/p/primary-crimes-against-humanity-genocide
and here is our call to ban all mRNA and DNA products and platforms.
https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/p/now-is-the-time-for-a-ban-on-all
Thank you Ginger, and much love to you and Peter! Thank you for ALL your incredible works. I will read both posts. BOMBARDED is the right word!
Please see josephsansone.substack.com. Dr. Sansone has written a Ban the Jab resolution which has been approved at the county level by Republicans in Florida, Idaho and New Jersey. Please also see jamesroguski.substack.com for the latest pushback against the WHO IHRs which are guaranteed, if adopted, to put us at the mercy of the pharmacological medical industrial complex. These fine gentlemen have a great online conversation on Rumble. We need more collaboration on these issues and what we all can do on local levels.
Thank you Ginger. It is worth remembering though that this kind of deception was part of the psyop now reaching culmination, and the biggest part of it was performed in 1966. You know you can get away with anything if you can replace the most famous man on the planet with a low-quality substitute who is flaunted ostentatiously in your face for the next 27 years at least, and people simply argue among themselves in carefully curated groups (I heard a patronising person on BBC Radio news today explaining to the plebs how much easier it is to 'radicalise' people with help from an internet than without, because .people of like mind tend to gather together - like us here... oh dear.
PIDders lose me when they claim Faul is low talent. He's obviously as musically brilliant as the "real Paul" if not more brilliant, given his subsequent oeuvre. It's silly to assert otherwise.
I didn't mention talent though, I merely claimed he was a low-quality substitute. However, talent or otherwise is not really the point here; it's more the murdery replacement vibes, and subsequent crackdown on any mention of what those involved were subjected to. And there were many of them, and those still around remain traumatised and fearful. And as I said, it was a good test of just how much could be got away with in full view of the entire world.
murdery. yes.
"low quality" in this context obviously means musical talent.
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
I'm not a man, by the way, so I don't mind how right you are :-)
I really didn't mean to do daft PID fighting.
low quality what? his haircut? his clothes? the way he rides a horse?
Yes, this is not a game for newbies. Jack Stevens doesn't even look like Bowie, to me, but that's nothing. What I do want to put on the table is the strangeness around Bowie's last days. He released a photo of himself in beaming good health. And dropped the album the following week or whatever, BlackStar was it. Well that's fine, but the one item at the time which got me was the video clip from the single which had Bowie going into a closet at the end. That scene, and nothing else, made me think he had faked his death. But what do I know, I'm a newbie at this too. Somewhere there is an island with dead celebrities all at the bar wishing maybe they hadn't been so hasty.
Or live ones.
IIRC Bowie had a diagnosis of Parkinson's (or a similar devastating disease) and he did not want to decline that way. Similar to Robin Williams knowing he had something really wrong (it was FTD, which actually has a similar dementia to the dementia that sometimes accompanies Parkinson's). I have witnessed these diseases and especially the related dementias. I would have a very LONG talk with God about the path forward if I received one of those life sentences. It is NOT pretty and I can very much understand the reasoning that was given in both Bowie's and Williams' situations.
I witnessed, first hand, two people very close to me. Years before their dementia set in, they knew something was wrong. They did not want to tell people, but confided their doubts quietly to the closest people in their lives. Both of these people looked GREAT and could put on a show for the world. But inside, they dreaded what was to come. RIP
This is the first I have ever heard such a conjecture about both figures.
Bowie had Pancreatic Cancer; it comes on fast. Also, he had been planning for a theatrical shoving off for at least 20 years, to make his death his final performance piece, appreciating full well the nature of his iconic celebrity & wishing to make a teaching lesson of it & a marker for future generations. His death's exquisite premeditation & theatrical renderings should not be taken for fakery. The message he was attempting to make would not work in the context of such a profanation as faking it would represent. The discrete moment of it was almost certainly premeditated to fit a calendrical geometry for the birth of his final works, but it must have been fairly ad hoc, and to call it suicide would be foolish. I realize you didn't use that word, but such is the elephant in the room.
According to his intimate friend, Bobcat Goldthwait, Robbin Williams was coming off of anti-depressants too fast, which notoriously induce suicidal ideation & not-infrequently suicidal fulfillment. Surely we can all understand why that part of the narrative has not been promoted.
I went looking for the article I read years ago about Bowie and what I remembered (Parkinson’s). I can see the photo of him in NYC looking dapper as ever. However, I wasn’t able to find the article I read. Perhaps because it was also framed as premeditated and performance suicide. The only article I found mentioned a dx of liver cancer. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/david-bowie-dead-what-is-liver-cancer-the-disease-which-claimed-the-singer-s-life-a6807191.html
As for Williams, I was sure it was FTD. And I have enough personal experience with that particular dx that his story made sense to me. But, remembered that wrongly, too. Williams had LBD, another dementia similar to FTD. https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/robin-williams-wife-susan-reveals-how-spent-time-together-afte-diagnosis-lewy-body-disease.html/
Recollections Do vary. And this is a rabbit hole that I didn’t intend to dive into. :)
Thanks for sharing your sources.
Any assessment of Bowie's death as suicide is akin to calling hospice morphine administered to a chronic patient a "suicide." Technically it's true, but in spirit, missing the mark entirely. He just happened to have one of the world's most intricate Last Rites, which confuses people, especially people who have never attempted to make art themselves, and so have no context to understand artifice. Many journalists qualify.
Btw in the Williams article, there’s a link to his wife’s documentary about his LBD and struggles.
Not so fast! Since I am actually the third smartest guy in the world, I am qualified to comment.
There seems to be a ruse of sorts going on. Why does the 2nd smartest's post refer to both Steven and Stevens as if they are two different people? This paragraph especially: "Later in 1981, Steven told the head of RCA to keep Eurythmics and drop the rest of the bands that RCA had signed. (Steven was unaware that RCA had actually just dropped the band.) Steven gained a reputation as hard to handle and was almost fired from RCA three times. Jack Stevens was a huge source of help and provided a lot of assistance." So who is Jack Stevens? The uncle of Jack Steven? I would say a monkey's uncle, but the dates for The Monkeys do not match up.
I'm with you. Just doing a little searching for Jack Steven and his supposed A&R victories is pretty fruitless. His Linkedin page (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacksteven/) is dormant, apart from the Sky Interview and a mention of him speaking on Channel 4 in 20217. And some link to a music video that supposedly is tied to 3fifty7. His "Fortress Music" seems to be fake or non-existent at this time (website defunct). Looking for his other connection 3fifty7 is equally a dead end (apart from one or two videos, website address links to an instagram account). Memento Social seems to exist but it's impossible to get much meat on the bones. I'm mostly concerned with that all the stuff the 2nd smartest guy is claiming but which he shares no sources for... Oh well. David Robert Jones, I hope you're enjoying your existence on whatever dimension you're on... The more I look into this, the more I want it to be him in that Sky Interview, haha.... My main point: If someone, allegedly, is an A&R legend who discovered all these bands and artists, wouldn't they AT LEAST have a stinking Wiki page? Answer: They would, and he hasn't. As far as I can see, that is.
Another dead end link: https://www.facebook.com/cubeninemusic/posts/jack-steven-has-been-working-in-the-music-industry-since-the-age-of-16-and-has-m/1277298532363639/
The article this post points to is gone. Cube Nine's website is dead... the more I try to find stuff the more fun it is haha.... I doff my cap to Mr Jones :-)
The problem with that problem is that any dastardly Cabal worth its salt would simply have fabricated a plausible Wiki entry; so it doesn't make sense to imply they made such an elementary mistake. What is this, a Keystone Konspiracy...?
They/he fabricated a lousy Linkedin profile, a few FB posts (with the"bio") and an IMDB page, then they ran out of money :-). I'd like to think of it in a positive way. He wanted out and had the means and the guts to pull it off, cabal or no cabal... Will we ever know? Like with so many things these days, probably not. BTW, I wonder if he got the jab :-) (assuming it is Mr Jones and he is still alive).
It's probably not plausible for someone of Bowie's fame to get away with faking his own death all by himself. It would require some cooperation by various people in the Mainstream. This in turn indicates a Cabal behind it, as it's unlikely a bunch of relatively unrelated Mainstream people would collaborate on something like this (and collaboration includes covering it up afterwards). So my objection stands.
It's called The Tavistock Institute.
Of course he needed cooperation from enough people to make it work. I’m just saying it doesn’t have to be sinister… So let’s say it’s not Mr Jones. Who TF is this Steven guy who is pretty unfindable, and WHY do this weird interview with this nobody? It makes no sense. Like most everything else these days:-)
Further, why would he hide his prowess in football. Clearly, he can be seen here. Or one of them can. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud49osn62Zo
Who? If it's me, I saw what 2nd Smartest wrote and I thought it settled the matter. I was impatient.
Bingo. Just like when we read any headline, or even the "source" article/vid. What if it's ALL a sham. What if Celia Farber doesn't exist? :) Oh well, time to re-order from the Wellness Company and know that all the right ducks are lined up there. Then to ponder the Malone funnies. Oh..., don't forget:
https://conceptualvoice.substack.com/p/under-construction-repost-for-the#details
I'm not sure what this comment by "2nd Smartest Guy" proves.
It proves that 14-year-olds can become "international managers" (thank you to the commenter who pointed this out yesterday)
I think Celia missed that comment.
Can you explain?
According to a commenter Robert Bystrom, that 2nd Smartest Guy's timeline would mean that "[a]t age 14 Steven was, among other notable positions, the international manager of Essex Music. Thanks for giving us an accurate timeline of this marvelous person who is not David Bowie."
The Linked-in bio was rather hastily thrown together. Jack Steven seems to exist as a music industry executive.
Here he is (as Jack Stevens) in 2017 talking about sexual abuse in the music industry.
https://www.channel4.com/news/misconduct-music-industry-jack-stevens
Where the Linked- in biog says "During the years spanning from 1970 to 1980", it could be interpreted to mean "During the 1970s", so he might not have been working in the early years of that decade.
Could it be that Jack Steven is a real person and David Bowie was a character played by several different actors, one of whom was Jack Steven?
https://postimg.cc/Q9mLT6pM
I'm only the 6th Smartest Guy in the Village, and I can't wrap my head around the levels of deception at work in today's media world.
He says in that Channel 4 interview he started at age 16.
The way commenters on these threads use the phrase "A&R executive" it sounds like "A&R" is the name of a company -- but in fact, apparently, it's just a field of endeavor within the music industry:
"So, what is A&R in music? A&R is the department of a record label that, historically, is responsible for talent" -- standing for "Arts and Repertoire".
So the logical next step is to find out in WHICH COMPANY Stevens dealt with "A&R".
Maybe it is just me, maybe I've known too many 20yos (career hazard), but even if we're talking about the final years of the 80's, it seems like a stretch .
I don't know about dude Jack Stevens
I adore and admire his better brother Cat
It's Steven without an s. Sincerely, The "Fact Checker". :-) I really appreciate the comment though.
I spent weeks looking up info on Steven when I saw that TV interview originally, just after Bowie's dramatic exit. Very little of what's being talked about here was findable then. I did find the old clip of Steven in the garden, and one other video, very blurry, of someone ho as supposed to be him giving a lecture in a darkened room. Regardless of whether it was Bowie being interviewed (or whether it was Bowie in the Black Star video, or in the so-called last photo, without socks) it sure as hell wasn't Jack Steven (if that was him in the garden). Perchance old schoolmate Dave Stewart may be more forthcoming than when I asked about Macca....
Still pretty unfindable :-)
Yeah, so that this "legendary A&R person" is virtually invisible on the internet is super strange... The jury is definitely out on this one. Except of course for the Reddit thread that cites no sources even when people ask for them.
I did the same digging this morning and soon found the Reddit post reprinted above. Which, without sauce means absolutely nothing. Jack Steven has no internet presence. Fortress has vanished. I can find no pictures of him. David Bowie was of course the creation of Davy Jones, so when it was announced that Bowie was dead it doesn't mean that Jones is dead.
FWIW when Bowie's death was announced I immediately thought that Jones was terminally ill and wished to live out the remainder of his life out of the public eye. Now I'm not so sure. That was Davy Jones being interviewed. Betcha.
Yep. Feeling more sure of this by the hour. And can't get over the coolness of doing that interview. The ultimate "exit".
Don't confuse us even more, Phillip. Davy Jones was a Monkee, who passed on in 2012 and didn't look a bit like Bowie or Steven. Davy died at the age of 67 of a sudden heart attack while tending to his horses at a farm in Indiantown, Florida.
I don't know if he was jabbed. Or if he faked his death in order to live an even quieter life somewhere. But late sixties was not an unusual age for British men of his generation to die.
There was a lot of malnutrition in the immediate postwar years when they were infants. And there was a lot of drinking and smoking and partying and popping pills and injecting drugs going on among the Woodstock generation. Frankly, I'm amazed any of them are still with us.
Wait. Really?
Hm. Now I'm confused again.
Now do Alex Jones/ Bill Hicks !
I call BS on this! What about Jim Morrison and Rush Limbaugh?!?
What’s the conspiracy with rush?
Jim Morrison, whose father was a spook, allegedly faked his own death. He later came back as Rush Limbaugh. And no-one noticed. I have not researched this BTW, nor have I really compared photos - I'm parroting what I read.
Thanks. Hadn’t heard that one! He was in the ( dies at ) 27 club.
I can't really comment on Morrison as I didn't watch it happen in real time.. Bowie's death was very strange though, cremated in secret within a few days. I also find the death of Prince shortly afterwards suspicious.
I think Prince was overdosed. By whom, no idea. He wanted to talk.
Freddy Mercury apparently became Doctor Phil!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYGprL7QkzE
Hi Celia, but the guy who did the Sky interview is not the same guy on the 'Dallas' interview. So the actual Jack Steven may exist but it was a different guy in the Sky interview. The eyes are not the same....in my opinion...:-)
You are RIGHT Celia! even if you were wrong.
1. Right about recognizing an error for lack of information. This raises your trustworthiness!
2. Right about questioning. These days, excessive paranoia is a virtue:
For example:
There's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the mason Georgia guide-stones:
- Both Churchill and Roosevelt were masons and plotted to get the reluctant USA into the war by provoking the Japs and letting Pearl Harbor (left the whole fleet defenseless and concentrated there as an easy candy to be taken from a kid, no radar warning from outer islands, etc.)
- 9/11: 2 "planes", yet the third tower that imploded (WTC7) was out of reach and all 7 World Trade Center towers destroyed, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center, and the owner with his 2 grown up siblings failed to show up for work (never skipped work before)...
- J6: The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know
It's such a mason manual that they organized the same play in Brazil when it was proven that the voting machines owned by mason Soros, were rigged:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us
- At least since the 90s, vaccines were weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
Check soundchoice.org or videos at bottom after this page:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
- COVID was designed as a primer for lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with
- Wake up videos:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/2050-youll-go-nowhere-and-youll-be
- It's genocide for depopulation:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth
- It’s the masons, who create counterfeited currencies (trillions of dollars and EUROS) and bought the listed corporations, media, healthcare, universities, parties and political careers:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati
Confessions of ex-illuminati Ronald Bernard (all lodges obey the same master, Satan):
http://youtu.be/JAhnCdXqPww
Now, are you really ready for this?:
The full PLAN exposed:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed
16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
Pllllleeeeease, on my knees, don’t believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com, and maybe yandex.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rpn5aj/i_have_found_the_perfect_uncensored_search_engines/
https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com/uncensored-search-engines-for-anonymous-searching/
PS I'm sorry I'm linking to my own substack. It’s not self-promotion: I couldn’t find better links but if you find anything better, I'd be glad to replace.
In 1980 he would have been 24 not 14. I was also a product manager at that age, but for a package goods company
In 1970 he was 14. The timeline says "~From 1970‐1980, Stevens claims he was the International Manager and Profession Manager for companies such as Essex Music, Dick James Music, and Chappell Music ". Yeah... not so much methinks. And where exactly are these claims, except on dead end social media posts... And his IMBD page LOL
And so you can check out Jack Steven’s Linkedin, and you find a web adress for Fortress Music. Yeah... fortress-music.com. This whole thing is pretty strange. JS other appearance is on Channel 4 a year later when he talks about sexual abuse in the music industry. Bottom line: people with money and power can get away with anything. Even faking their own deaths. I’m not saying it is like that, but I suggest you do your own research on JS and see what you find...
And anybody can create a fake LinkedIn to further this story.
This topic is a very typical demonstration of emotion and belief reigning supreme; reasoning nowhere in the mix.
Even if everything in the guest opinion is factual, none of it addresses in the least the question at hand, which was 'are Bowie and Steven the same person?'
And that history of Steven, if true, adds to the evidence that he wasn't some random 14-year-old who landed a high-level executive job in the music industry. It would say that he's from a ruling-elite family, and just so happens to look like a twin of Bowie. Add all of the hints Bowie dropped before his 'death', the contrived nature of the media reaction, the hints that Steven drops in this interview, and how completely at-home Steven is in front of the camera, add weight to suspicion that they could be the same person.
So I'm curious, Celia, how the guest opinion helped change your mind, when it doesn't address the question?
Why are people so addicted to asserting a belief one way or the other and pretending it's 'fact' and/or evidence-based and rational?
This is precisely why the masses of humanity have been manipulated by a small elite class for all of human history. Virtually the entire 'alternative' media plays the same irrational games as their mainstream brethren.
Also it's stunning for the least that the 2 women in the sky interview don't even mention the obvious similarity between steven and bowie, instead all 3 smirk and grin constantly, no expression of sadness. Way to go Lazarus ;)