Stoltenberg Still Using Opaque Word "Sabotage" Implicating Russia. World Loses all Hope of Making Sense Of This Insanity, But Biden And Sikorsky Seem Thrilled (And Nuland, of Course)
My opinion. Its pure theatre. I think its designed to push Europe into hardship as an excuse to shove them further into Agenda 2030. Considering who Putin rubs elbows with behind the curtain I believe he is a willing accomplice playing his part in the script.
This is my line of thought too, but as Celia says, it is dizzying with all of the moving parts and the players. The US involvement in the destruction of Nord Stream only confirms this line of thought, i.e. we aren't at war with Putin --he and the current US leaders are partners in this 2030 Agenda and the rest is all theatre to make it look like others are to blame, to wit, the ones fighting this re-set agenda. There is imminent economic collapse in the EU too, which a war is designed to hide. Too many nuts with too much secret power.
I'm seriously wondering if they truly destroyed it. If my theory that Europe, Putin, and the U.S. are secretly working together to further Agenda 2030 is correct, then they could pretend they destroyed it and achieve the same outcome.
They could turn off the pipeline, create the hardship energy shortage, point fingers at each other, and they all win. In so doing they could turn the pipeline back on in the future without having to repair it.
If they pretend to destroy it they can turn it back on at their leisure if they want to. Everybody secretly wins.
Very true! You are right--it wouldn't serve them in the long run to destroy it, but pretending to would be golden. I wouldn't put it past them at all. It serves so many purposes for re-set, too.
It's easy to believe that 'they are all in on it'. It is harder to explain why nation after nation is joining the international Walk-Away movement in order to get out from underneath the criminally insane agendas of the Woke Western Establishment. Weaponizing SWIFT and Russia surviving sanctions permitted us to see where the real divisions lie, and with clarity ... possibly for the first time. Also, a lot of countries have come to understand the the criminality behind the 'pandemic' promotion, the reasons for it ... and they will not forget or forgive. For these reasons and more, the days of the West are numbered.
Yep. The western countries are in the hot seat. I think the global cabal wants to level western countries and make them "equal" to the rest of the world. Equality...
Woke Globalism is a Marxist faith, intellectually rooted in dialectical materialism ... and really a largely soulless atheistic death cult. And if someone believes that matter (the material universe) is the only thing that exists and nothing more, and one's entire belief system hangs solely on this premise. Such people so professing cannot really explain anything. For such people, only power, money and control exist in importance, and only as matter (themselves) acting upon matter (loosely resources, material things, objects of control including people). Scratch the surface, and Woke 'law' is coercion by brute force. Look around the Woke World, and at the end of the day, beating up people and/or threat of extinction is their only agency of authority.
Equality! One of the greatest of Lies. It never existed. It never will. And as our family optometrist taught me as a very, very young lad, we come to know the world through the Faculty of Discrimination. The differences between things like an apple, a pear or an orange. And I am sure that we all remember the Pig rulers in Animal Farm. All animals are equal, but some animals more equal than others. Kind of sums it up.
Animal Farm. I think of that book from time to time. When I was growing up we had access to books like that in the school library. Cartoons like Popeye. Tv shows like Andy Griffith and Leave It To Beaver. Now I see only wreckage... :(
Three weeks before Russia put troops on Ukraine`s border, they joined the WEF`s Fourth Industrial Revolution Network. Are we to believe they are simultaneously allies with, and enemies of, the West?
Wow! That got by me. I didn't know about that until just now. It proves my theory that "war in the Ukraine" is nothing more than theatre and a huge money laundering operation. Thanks for showing me that!!
I don’t think meeting Kissinger, the Swiss Smurf or the Chad Lubbowitzers a few times means a damn thing. You might not believe who my family knew and we eat no children.
GHW Bush & Barbara, King Of Spain, Muldoon, that bastard Kissinger and for sure many I can’t remember or don’t know about. It’s not difficult in the right parts of civil service. ;)
These reptiles are everywhere in every country. For a moment just entertain that Putin, Zelensky and the entire system are in lockstep bringing us to the brink. Don't think for a moment that this is not possible. Remember, Putin and Zelensky were on the WEF web-page and then Putin was removed. This is the nature of these deceivers and they will not stop until we are crushed.
Yeah, I’m just confused. What’s been scripted, and how far back in time does it go? Is there some kind of coordinated grand plan, or are some players in the dark (being played)? If Biden actually destroyed the pipeline, does he fully realize how pissed off millions of freezing Germans are going to be at the US this winter - or is Biden being an idiot? We need more information to make sense of this, and I get the feeling that we’re never supposed to know...
Considering his affiliation with the neo-cons, as Robert Kegan and Victoria Nuland, we can infer the same hand in 911 towers and present PSYCHO killers have an agenda! Heaen help the fools
This insanity, like all other insanity will become less insane by the year 2077, when after a series of congressional investigations, commissions and inquires it will be determined that the tyranny of green energy was actually quite a terror to experience.
I hope that’s sarcasm! 2077??? No way. There will be justice long before that. There are too many of us that know what is going on and will not put up with this for much longer. The internet has had it’s uses and even this discussion is beneficial and highlights that information cannot be stopped. It’s all becoming too obvious now - all pre-planned or so stupid one has to question why any of them are supposedly in power?
If the Biden regime did this he is bring us one step closer to WWIII. We are living in crazy, seemingly out of control times. Be brave and say what you see as truth
HIya, I think us being totally confused it part of the plan!
No one I talk to really knows why energy prices are going up- 'because of the war'- but clearly the destruction of Nord stream was in motion way before Russia invaded.
The technocracy control the whole narrative, all nation states are just puppets. They want to destroy the economy and people of ALL nations. They are in a world separate from nations.
The technocracy make a lot of money and therefore their power from GMO’s, pesticides, fertilisers and pharmaceuticals that keep people sick, plus perpetual war and constant nuclear deterrents.
Leaders may be more and some leaders less in their pockets, some by desire others by coercion, blackmail etc, nothing is too low or off the table, some may be more in the 'know' than others.
Maybe it was the Uk and trident that sabotaged Nord stream. I wouldn't be surprised. The UK is linked with the NWO by the Azov nazis who also declared the EU already dead.
I believe Russia is holding out against the technocracy which is why they are particularly targeted and isolated from the rest of the world.
Davos benefits by destroying the pipeline in efforts to reprogram European brains to understand that America is not their friend but their enemy and in efforts to bring about financial destruction and create a new rebuilding program in order to maintain control...
E: the message is sell your terrorist dollars, America is rogue state against peace and energy...
Maybe true but while the Americans are brazen, I just have trouble accepting they would be so ramboesque to this without a heavy propaganda cover blaming someone else... The American media machine is barely covering this and just seems to have been caught by surprise. Just curious to think about how EU benefits from this act. Good be total lunacy this theory - curious what you think.
Within every rational motive is an irrational act.
Such is the basis of war. Senator Johnson wants war because he states Russia/Putin executed a military operation against the US/NATO puppet regime threat to 1) join NATO 2) acquire nuclear weapons.
He sees no contradiction there regarding how this whole thing began, jumped over Ukrainian regime change per Nuland, et al. and all US provocations.
You'd think Senator Johnson, who has been so brave criticizing the vax mandates & COVID theater would've started putting the pieces of all of this this together (that Victoria Nuland clip is from 2021, so maybe his understanding of the deep state has sharpened since then).
Perhaps but likely the Overton Window prevails on foreign matters. I think he's convinced himself by long held belief. As far as the vax, it's hard to know how his thinking evolved to begin questioning.
Exactly! And thank you for putting this stuff out where more people can see it.
The bizarro world of Russia-Ukraine is why I said a few posts ago that this is bigger than convid. I thought I had a fairly good grip on why convid has happened, but with Putin's speech declaring do-or-die opposition to the WEF/Davos crowd, what with Europe/UK apparently happy to immolate themselves for one of the most corrupt regimes on earth they have no obligation to defend, with barely a squeak of opposition from German business – which is very powerful –, with Johnson scuppering peace talks back in late March ... like you said, Celia, this tears to tatters any sense I had of some coherent picture, some coherent ambition behind all this.
It can only be insanity of the most putrid and deranged kind, born of generations of privilege and grand ambitions surrounded by the best Yes Men infinite wealth can buy.
Perhaps, perhaps ... this is the only exploding spectacle of modernity's delusion of materialism, of godlessness, powerful enough in its Krakatoa-like ramifications, to expose that delusion lastingly, for centuries, if not millennia, to come. Perhaps millions will die in this apocalypse, this revelation, but perhaps, truly, this is the only way. I am even beginning to think thoughts like this now. And I hate them.
I had overlooked wanting to send my condolences to you in a recent post in which your dad was mentioned. He must have been such a remarkable person. I am so sorry for your loss.
I don’t know what to make of anything anymore. I found it astounding in March when Thierry Meyssan said that the Ukraine war was a UK-US proxy war w/the EU, particularly Germany. Of course, the head of the EU is Ursula von der Leyen who is German.
I’ve found Meyssan’s articles intriguing, beginning with his expose of the Straussians (the protégés of Leo Strauss; including the neocons also exposed by Jeffrey Sachs as drivers of the Ukraine war.
I read Dr Nass’s expose of Sachs and listened to RFK Jr’s interview with him. I understand that he’s a player in the pandemic scenario, not to be trusted. He told RFK Jr that his friends and colleagues on the investigative committee deceived him.
As much contempt that Biden deserves, I am inclined to think of the war as pushed by Chatham House/Council on Foreign Relations. They feed policy into the State Dept.
No sooner did Trump tell Germany that they needed to spend 2% of GDP on defense; the NordStream deal w/Germany should be prevented; and NATO better step up business than we see these things happening under Biden’s tenure.
A recent expose revealed that Germany was by far the leading WHO funder w/respect to Covid-19. Berlin based scientist Drosten designed the PCR tests that detected the virus. And Mainz-based BioNTech holds the lion’s share of the patent for the vaccine made with support from Pfizer and Fosun.
The British panicked to ditch the EU, Brexit having taken place just ahead of the pandemic.
I have no idea what’s going on. It’s hard to know who the enemy is. I look to see who’s hurting and
in that regard determine who’s being targeted. Obviously the Ukraine is hurting but the UK-US doesn’t seem to care enough to stop the conflict. They did their best to foment it, keep sending munitions and now are invoking nuclear war.
My opinion. Its pure theatre. I think its designed to push Europe into hardship as an excuse to shove them further into Agenda 2030. Considering who Putin rubs elbows with behind the curtain I believe he is a willing accomplice playing his part in the script.
This is my line of thought too, but as Celia says, it is dizzying with all of the moving parts and the players. The US involvement in the destruction of Nord Stream only confirms this line of thought, i.e. we aren't at war with Putin --he and the current US leaders are partners in this 2030 Agenda and the rest is all theatre to make it look like others are to blame, to wit, the ones fighting this re-set agenda. There is imminent economic collapse in the EU too, which a war is designed to hide. Too many nuts with too much secret power.
I'm seriously wondering if they truly destroyed it. If my theory that Europe, Putin, and the U.S. are secretly working together to further Agenda 2030 is correct, then they could pretend they destroyed it and achieve the same outcome.
They could turn off the pipeline, create the hardship energy shortage, point fingers at each other, and they all win. In so doing they could turn the pipeline back on in the future without having to repair it.
If they pretend to destroy it they can turn it back on at their leisure if they want to. Everybody secretly wins.
I thought the same. How do we know they were really attacked and damaged
Very true! You are right--it wouldn't serve them in the long run to destroy it, but pretending to would be golden. I wouldn't put it past them at all. It serves so many purposes for re-set, too.
It's easy to believe that 'they are all in on it'. It is harder to explain why nation after nation is joining the international Walk-Away movement in order to get out from underneath the criminally insane agendas of the Woke Western Establishment. Weaponizing SWIFT and Russia surviving sanctions permitted us to see where the real divisions lie, and with clarity ... possibly for the first time. Also, a lot of countries have come to understand the the criminality behind the 'pandemic' promotion, the reasons for it ... and they will not forget or forgive. For these reasons and more, the days of the West are numbered.
Yep. The western countries are in the hot seat. I think the global cabal wants to level western countries and make them "equal" to the rest of the world. Equality...
Woke Globalism is a Marxist faith, intellectually rooted in dialectical materialism ... and really a largely soulless atheistic death cult. And if someone believes that matter (the material universe) is the only thing that exists and nothing more, and one's entire belief system hangs solely on this premise. Such people so professing cannot really explain anything. For such people, only power, money and control exist in importance, and only as matter (themselves) acting upon matter (loosely resources, material things, objects of control including people). Scratch the surface, and Woke 'law' is coercion by brute force. Look around the Woke World, and at the end of the day, beating up people and/or threat of extinction is their only agency of authority.
Equality! One of the greatest of Lies. It never existed. It never will. And as our family optometrist taught me as a very, very young lad, we come to know the world through the Faculty of Discrimination. The differences between things like an apple, a pear or an orange. And I am sure that we all remember the Pig rulers in Animal Farm. All animals are equal, but some animals more equal than others. Kind of sums it up.
Animal Farm. I think of that book from time to time. When I was growing up we had access to books like that in the school library. Cartoons like Popeye. Tv shows like Andy Griffith and Leave It To Beaver. Now I see only wreckage... :(
It’s not equality. It’s taking out the movers and shakers and leaving in tact the docile slave-amenable nations.
What are you saying really? What you wrote is vague and pretty much incomprehensible. Explain.
Could be Mike.
Three weeks before Russia put troops on Ukraine`s border, they joined the WEF`s Fourth Industrial Revolution Network. Are we to believe they are simultaneously allies with, and enemies of, the West?
https://www.weforum.org/press/2021/10/russia-joins-centre-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution-network/
LOL yes. I knew when they took Putin off their website, it was not because he suddenly got a conscience.
Wow! That got by me. I didn't know about that until just now. It proves my theory that "war in the Ukraine" is nothing more than theatre and a huge money laundering operation. Thanks for showing me that!!
I don’t think meeting Kissinger, the Swiss Smurf or the Chad Lubbowitzers a few times means a damn thing. You might not believe who my family knew and we eat no children.
Hmmm. I'm intrigued. Tell us more
GHW Bush & Barbara, King Of Spain, Muldoon, that bastard Kissinger and for sure many I can’t remember or don’t know about. It’s not difficult in the right parts of civil service. ;)
These reptiles are everywhere in every country. For a moment just entertain that Putin, Zelensky and the entire system are in lockstep bringing us to the brink. Don't think for a moment that this is not possible. Remember, Putin and Zelensky were on the WEF web-page and then Putin was removed. This is the nature of these deceivers and they will not stop until we are crushed.
They are hell bent on having the CBDC installed and tracking us until the end of time.
Yeah, I’m just confused. What’s been scripted, and how far back in time does it go? Is there some kind of coordinated grand plan, or are some players in the dark (being played)? If Biden actually destroyed the pipeline, does he fully realize how pissed off millions of freezing Germans are going to be at the US this winter - or is Biden being an idiot? We need more information to make sense of this, and I get the feeling that we’re never supposed to know...
“I actually feel physically dizzy and nauseous when I research and post about this.” Could not express any better exactly how this all makes me feel.
Considering his affiliation with the neo-cons, as Robert Kegan and Victoria Nuland, we can infer the same hand in 911 towers and present PSYCHO killers have an agenda! Heaen help the fools
This insanity, like all other insanity will become less insane by the year 2077, when after a series of congressional investigations, commissions and inquires it will be determined that the tyranny of green energy was actually quite a terror to experience.
I hope that’s sarcasm! 2077??? No way. There will be justice long before that. There are too many of us that know what is going on and will not put up with this for much longer. The internet has had it’s uses and even this discussion is beneficial and highlights that information cannot be stopped. It’s all becoming too obvious now - all pre-planned or so stupid one has to question why any of them are supposedly in power?
If the Biden regime did this he is bring us one step closer to WWIII. We are living in crazy, seemingly out of control times. Be brave and say what you see as truth
Nauseous means one has the effect of making others sick. Nauseated means one feels ill.
HIya, I think us being totally confused it part of the plan!
No one I talk to really knows why energy prices are going up- 'because of the war'- but clearly the destruction of Nord stream was in motion way before Russia invaded.
The technocracy control the whole narrative, all nation states are just puppets. They want to destroy the economy and people of ALL nations. They are in a world separate from nations.
The technocracy make a lot of money and therefore their power from GMO’s, pesticides, fertilisers and pharmaceuticals that keep people sick, plus perpetual war and constant nuclear deterrents.
Leaders may be more and some leaders less in their pockets, some by desire others by coercion, blackmail etc, nothing is too low or off the table, some may be more in the 'know' than others.
Maybe it was the Uk and trident that sabotaged Nord stream. I wouldn't be surprised. The UK is linked with the NWO by the Azov nazis who also declared the EU already dead.
I believe Russia is holding out against the technocracy which is why they are particularly targeted and isolated from the rest of the world.
Jo
Davos benefits by destroying the pipeline in efforts to reprogram European brains to understand that America is not their friend but their enemy and in efforts to bring about financial destruction and create a new rebuilding program in order to maintain control...
E: the message is sell your terrorist dollars, America is rogue state against peace and energy...
Maybe true but while the Americans are brazen, I just have trouble accepting they would be so ramboesque to this without a heavy propaganda cover blaming someone else... The American media machine is barely covering this and just seems to have been caught by surprise. Just curious to think about how EU benefits from this act. Good be total lunacy this theory - curious what you think.
Thank you Celia
Another example of keeping so many shiny balls moving that you don't know where to look.
Good theory in the comments that are the pipelines REALLY blown up?
I know this is gonna sound silly, but does Z's incredulous-ness, remind you of some one ?
...Emperor Napoleon...
I dunno.
Anywho.
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Great Piece !
That's For Sure.
Very Impressed.
Stay Strong !
Thank you.
Within every rational motive is an irrational act.
Such is the basis of war. Senator Johnson wants war because he states Russia/Putin executed a military operation against the US/NATO puppet regime threat to 1) join NATO 2) acquire nuclear weapons.
He sees no contradiction there regarding how this whole thing began, jumped over Ukrainian regime change per Nuland, et al. and all US provocations.
You'd think Senator Johnson, who has been so brave criticizing the vax mandates & COVID theater would've started putting the pieces of all of this this together (that Victoria Nuland clip is from 2021, so maybe his understanding of the deep state has sharpened since then).
Perhaps but likely the Overton Window prevails on foreign matters. I think he's convinced himself by long held belief. As far as the vax, it's hard to know how his thinking evolved to begin questioning.
Exactly! And thank you for putting this stuff out where more people can see it.
The bizarro world of Russia-Ukraine is why I said a few posts ago that this is bigger than convid. I thought I had a fairly good grip on why convid has happened, but with Putin's speech declaring do-or-die opposition to the WEF/Davos crowd, what with Europe/UK apparently happy to immolate themselves for one of the most corrupt regimes on earth they have no obligation to defend, with barely a squeak of opposition from German business – which is very powerful –, with Johnson scuppering peace talks back in late March ... like you said, Celia, this tears to tatters any sense I had of some coherent picture, some coherent ambition behind all this.
It can only be insanity of the most putrid and deranged kind, born of generations of privilege and grand ambitions surrounded by the best Yes Men infinite wealth can buy.
Perhaps, perhaps ... this is the only exploding spectacle of modernity's delusion of materialism, of godlessness, powerful enough in its Krakatoa-like ramifications, to expose that delusion lastingly, for centuries, if not millennia, to come. Perhaps millions will die in this apocalypse, this revelation, but perhaps, truly, this is the only way. I am even beginning to think thoughts like this now. And I hate them.
There's a bar a block away from me called peacemaker.
Thankfully they ain't flying nukronazi flags, yet.
I give them wide distance when I walk by on the street in the street
I had overlooked wanting to send my condolences to you in a recent post in which your dad was mentioned. He must have been such a remarkable person. I am so sorry for your loss.
I don’t know what to make of anything anymore. I found it astounding in March when Thierry Meyssan said that the Ukraine war was a UK-US proxy war w/the EU, particularly Germany. Of course, the head of the EU is Ursula von der Leyen who is German.
I’ve found Meyssan’s articles intriguing, beginning with his expose of the Straussians (the protégés of Leo Strauss; including the neocons also exposed by Jeffrey Sachs as drivers of the Ukraine war.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article215855.html
Here’s a recent follow up article in that regard
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html
And Sachs’s article
https://www.tikkun.org/ukraine-is-the-latest-neocon-disaster/
I read Dr Nass’s expose of Sachs and listened to RFK Jr’s interview with him. I understand that he’s a player in the pandemic scenario, not to be trusted. He told RFK Jr that his friends and colleagues on the investigative committee deceived him.
As much contempt that Biden deserves, I am inclined to think of the war as pushed by Chatham House/Council on Foreign Relations. They feed policy into the State Dept.
No sooner did Trump tell Germany that they needed to spend 2% of GDP on defense; the NordStream deal w/Germany should be prevented; and NATO better step up business than we see these things happening under Biden’s tenure.
A recent expose revealed that Germany was by far the leading WHO funder w/respect to Covid-19. Berlin based scientist Drosten designed the PCR tests that detected the virus. And Mainz-based BioNTech holds the lion’s share of the patent for the vaccine made with support from Pfizer and Fosun.
The British panicked to ditch the EU, Brexit having taken place just ahead of the pandemic.
I have no idea what’s going on. It’s hard to know who the enemy is. I look to see who’s hurting and
in that regard determine who’s being targeted. Obviously the Ukraine is hurting but the UK-US doesn’t seem to care enough to stop the conflict. They did their best to foment it, keep sending munitions and now are invoking nuclear war.
Came across a conversation w/Robert Barnes that shared the viewpoint I presented here
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-duran-cui-bono-to-whom-is-it-a-benefit-w-robert-barnes/
Also wanted to share Meyssan’s newest article as it provides an overview of the conflict
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/09/thierry-meyssan/how-to-stop-the-escalation-to-war/
I wanted to add that it is seldom cited that the Robert Koch Institute hosted a 2012 simulation of a SARS pandemic
What a polite and grateful chap he is....