Propaganda, financial incentives, sophisticated mind control. The Luciferian royal family in Great Britain wanted to annoint their antichrist in the Third Temple, and used various pretexts to retain Jerusalem. It was always about the end times.
So when do you think Zionism was first thought of and brought about, that you believe they'd still be around to vote for Biden? I won't wait for your response.
Hint: Zionism emerged in this mix as a particular form of nationalism: the idea that Jews could be fully realized culturally and politically only in a homeland of their own. This thinking took shape in particular in the work of Leon Pinsker in his 1882 text “Autoemancipation.”
"The earliest Zionist settlers, known as the first Aliyah (wave of immigration), emerge in Eastern Europe following the events of 1882. The “Lovers of Zion” sent tiny groups of Jews to purchase lands mostly in the Jaffa region and Galilee. But they were very disorganized. The major organization came from Central Europeans, and most importantly Theodor Herzl, who in 1897 convened the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland. Still, though, they believed that the actual target population was those facing pogroms in Eastern Europe, most of them assumed they would not personally move."
They leave the bit out involving Sir Rothschild or Bauer as his name was in Germany, though I've now heard it referred to as Bayer though I've never seen it mentioned in any research I've come across.
" In mid-June of 1895, Herzl drafted a long address to the Rothschild Family Council, the forum of the other immensely wealthy Jewish family of the time. But he was unable to elicit any interest."
Then several years later they meet again, and do I believe a lot of information involving Sir Rothschild is let out, or unknown by the author? Most assuredly. These two portions are from this link. There are many other references that differ on many aspects, I'll leave that up to you, so am just posting these versions.
"Herzl’s testimony was eloquent, but he felt he had performed poorly, confiding to his diary that he had spoken and understood English badly. The next day he met the chairman of the Commission, Lord James of Hereford, hoping to “repair the bad impression which I felt I had made.” Lord James told him a Jewish colony somewhere could only be achieved with the help of Lord Rothschild, and so Herzl met with Rothschild again the next day, and promised to send him a plan for an immediate Jewish colony. He suggested Cyprus, while emphasizing he would not give up on the long-term goal of Palestine."
"Opposition to Zionism"
"Though Zionism has a particular logic that emerged from the events surrounding it, not all Jews subscribed to that logic and in fact a majority of Jews initially did not. Their opposition stemmed from a number of directions. Jewish liberals, committed to the idea of Jewish integration, thought that Zionism, by conceding to the permanence of anti-Semitism, would in turn lead to more anti-Semitism. Orthodox Jews believed that Jews had been exiled in ancient times because of their sins and would return only with God’s will and in messianic times. They believed that taking action to return to Palestine en masse was nothing short of heresy. This religious opposition would change as religious streams of Zionism emerged, but it is important to recall that Orthodoxy was initially deeply opposed to Zionism. Another Jewish group, Autonomists, believed in the national and cultural specificity of Jews, but believed that the solution to Jewish problems would be found within the places they lived, by demanding cultural autonomy. Many of them promoted Yiddish (not Hebrew) as the Jewish national language. Meanwhile, some Jews thought that the division by nationality was highly inappropriate and joined socialist movements not organized in national terms."
"To understand how this initially small movement evolved into a major political force, we need to look at it in stages, always understanding the tension between the national purpose Zionism would serve in Europe and the settlement project itself."
This is from a group creating a teaching manual, as it seems you've no background in Zionism you may want to read it. Do I agree with all of it? I don't agree with "ALL" of anything, especially coming from the so called educational system. May as well put an AI bot in charge, and most probably will come about the way things are going.
"This essay is based on a lecture she delivered to FPRI’s Butcher History Institute on “Teaching about Israel and Palestine,” October 25-26, 2014. The Butcher History Institute is FPRI’s professional development program for high school teachers from all around the country."
I'm wondering if some of this isn't pent up anger about the vaccines forced on the people, and as disclosures increase about the purposefully built contaminated DNA injection, immune system suppression and deaths coming from it. I, frankly as a religious outsider who views the Jewish people as chosen from biblical times, was shocked to see the forced injections being accepted so readily, when it appears to be a slow-motion kill shot that will also sterilize them.
Of course it is. That was an act of corporate biowarfare against the Israeli people, and was not only an act of war, but was an illegal act even in a time of war. The Israeli corporate government violated the trust of Israel by attacking them with bioweapons. When they did that they forfeited their constitutional duties and voided all contracts with the Israeli people. Many other corporate governments have done the same thing, in the five eyes and throughout western Europe.
Would you mind sharing that? This is helping wake up a lot of people here in the US. Hopefully it will hold officials accountable prior to elections here.
Oh, I said that based on how hd pumpwd all of tbe poison in the people, lied to rhem about safety but not only that. It appears he allowed them to be attacked. They have a very sophisticated military, best spying country there is, guard towers everywhere, drone surveillance, technology to pick up tunneling, and can pick up a roach at the fence line but somehow huge batteries were moved into place, people floated in on flying motorcycles and came right through and no one noticed for hours? I have read that Egypt told them of the attack being planned. I believe this was a "LIHOP." Let it happen operation.
This is an amazing interview with Bret Weinstein and Efrat Fenigson (prior Israeli intelligence) on the improbabilities of the initial Hamas attack and the implausible reasons given.
It's looking like Israeli citizens WERE indeed sacrificed to provoke a response that justified a wholesale attack on Hamas/Gaza. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEfuBg0TIMk
This is interesting idea because those who taken the vaxx seem to be more aggressive than non-vaxxed. But this whole sorry "Gleiwitz incident" story was planned. Most likely, that is.
Question: Was the Khazarian mafia there for the writing of Exodus (19:5) or Deuteronomy (7:6-8, 14:2, 26:17-19) or a number of other ancient books of the Bible?
Yes they are Philistines. Their religion is very ancient. They've changed little in 6,000 years, since their god Baal-Zebub, Son of Dagon, taught them at the Philistine city of Ekron to drink the adrenalized blood of their human sacrifices. You will never find people more in the thrall of religious superstition than these unfortunate swine, and they are very dedicated to their priests and the system of priestcraft that has come down to them from their parent's gods (Moloch, Nimrod, and Baal-Zebub--who may be just different names for the same person).
John- he does know. That’s wha makes it worse. I can tell he knows exactly what he’s doing. And he’s doing it to my friend and her audience. Shame on him.
Yep. I do know. What’s amazing is that you would speak of love for Jesus out of one side of your mouth and defame, libel and curse Jews out of another. whoever taught you this is not your friend. I’m not being nasty toward you, I’m sincerely stunned by what you’ve been saying and how terrible it must feel to believe.
Remember to conveniently forget the vow to drive Israel into the sea, forget the pals already were given the big half, which is Jordan, forget the Murder Bombers and their Blood Money, forget the billions of dollars siphoned by one corrupt Muslim regime after another, keep pretending they are a refugee people seventy five years down the line, setting a world record unlikely to ever be broken, forget the adamant refusal of all the wealthy oil rich Arab states to grant citizenship to people whose ancestors more likely than not actually originated in those states, don't contrast that with all the Jews evicted throughout Arabia in 1948 who were completely absorbed by a struggling, nascent Israel,and above all forget what happened just a week ago and so many other times across seventy five years.
Oh,and don't look at a map and see how utterly absurd it is for Arabs to claim more land.
I understand and accept everything you're saying. God has made a covenant and does not walk away except when sin and a turning away by the people is in place. God is patient, and I suppose there will be much suffering that must occur before they are humbled enough to accept God. It's happened in the past with periods of prosperity, but it took significant damage to turn things around.
Your “kindness” here isn’t kind. It’s stupid. Not because you are stupid but because you also are a victim of liberation theology indoctrination. What makes me angry with you and others on Celia’s substack is what you’ve poured into HER mind. When you should be celebrating her efforts - you’re abusing her and that’s what this is.
This is pure cluster b narcissistic abuse of my friend and someone I’ve long admired and respected to such a degree - you can’t fathom. And my loyalty to her...you can’t fathom.
Say what you wish about us. I’m not saying NO to you because I care what you think of Jews. I say it because I won’t let you commit such a sin as you are against someone I do love and does deserve your gratitude.
I see exactly what you are doing and I don’t care if anyone else understands or doesn’t. When she understands this REMNANT will be there for her to know my sincerity.
What I don’t know, is if you are a snake or simply a victim. Since you hide behind an anon name - I don’t care. Your LARP is poison.
Hate to disappoint. I’m the real deal. I am Jew. My FB is easy to find as am I. I use my real name. You? My skin is in the game. Yours?
Here. I wrote this publicly. Perhaps your issue isn’t with what is say. It’s what I am. And what - btw - Jesus was as well. He would never require me to break my covenant with Haschem because those who follow him know not what they do. That man and I share something in common. Perhaps that’s what makes you hold us in such contempt. Envy.
Let it go. What god would enjoy such fighting amongst his own people - especially, and ironically (god does have a sense of humor) over a region that was once - ready for this? Philestine.
Amongst these thousands of “FB friends” there are those of you who will perhaps understand this. I’m writing this stunned by but knowing it is unmistakable that I am a Jew. My people are a nation of people. This doesn’t negate or undo my being an American, a New Yorker, Magyar or woman. It is not an issue of loyalty. It simply is. Like a willow tree is a willow tree and an oak is an oak. There is no envy or intent to overtake or be more beloved by the Forrest canopy or the soil my body becomes and then grows from. “I am
Groot.” Thought makes me giggle. “I am Jew.” Makes me
Giggle.
I am deeply soul sad. Makes me weep. But … I am Jew.
Some thoughts on those who wish us annihilated from the planet- not only Hammas. The anti-human, angered, soul sad but juvenile cowards…that have been wanting this for as long as we chose our choices to choose god over and over and over. For eternity- contained in a single lifetime, without longing for death.
Thank you Celia. In the article you linked to, it states: "A Royal Commission of Inquiry headed by William Peel, 1st Earl Peel (1867-1937) was established in 1937. It concluded that Palestine had two distinct societies with irreconcilable political demands, thus making it necessary to partition the land."
Well, there's evidence that the British purposely fomented the conflicts to ensure there would be deep enmity and no chance for peaceful co-existence, by pitting both peoples against each other in nefarious ways. Divide and conquer, control the leaders and the resources.
See Chapter 10 of Cynthia Chung's "The Empire on Which the Black Sun Never Set", posted on her substack here https://cynthiachung.substack.com/cp/137889792 (The British Empire having now morphed into the Anglo-American Empire).
Because those Brits who ushered in WW1 are oh so trust worthy in their understanding of such things. Especially those German royals. :::nods snarkly:::
Yes everything we have is a result of govt corruption. Monarchies corporations and the banks have created this whole world of people who follow Satan in their quest for power and riches. They’ve sold their souls right down to those who rely on benefits.
What you should be studying is the characteristics of the Political Witch-hunt ritual which - you instead of doing are turning her own wisdom against her.
You’ve no idea how strong a woman Celia is or how deep the friendships she has cultivated for decades goes.
You see, personally I find myself often under the spell of strong emotions like anger, shame, hate, fear. These emotions lead me to behaviors I later regret.
I like to be reminded what Celia reminds us in that post. It was just what I needed.
I feel, perhaps I'm reading your mood wrongly, that you are in pain. I choose to no contribute to make your pain greater.
I've learned a lot from Celia. She's a good person. I'm just only a reader, and a commenter. Sometimes I made bad jokes. I apologize again for any misunderstanding.
But it’s a fact that so many in this country nz are there by choice. And that situation has been created by govts around the globe with one thing in mind. Control.
But greed and the desire for wealth increases with poverty. It’s that which keeps people looking to improve their lot. Without it you have communism.
Well we now know that the covid variants were developed in the lab. So I guess it was the witch’s that controlled them and all the medical personnel that forced it into the public. That is another good reason to see they hang high.
One day people should understand how SS works: people get peanuts, the rich get the lion's share.
My point is that the criticism of "SS benefits" as an entitlement is incomplete.
Think about this: there are many products and services that could not be sold if people didn't received handouts. People wouldn't buy that with their hard earned money. It's a scheme to have money circulating, create more "jobs" and prevent savings. It's also a way to reduce the value of money, thus creating more dependence. SS works like a charm!
Just some basic history. The land belonged to the Jews thousands of years ago, and there have been (some) Jews there continuously since that time. Since becoming a state, "new" Israel has made numerous attempts to work out peace deals with the "Palestinians" (there was never a national state of Palestine), including "peace for land" deals (like Gaza) that have backfired on the Israelis spectacularly. Because as the Hamas charter explicitly lays out, they do not wish Israel to EXIST. They do not wish any Jews to exist. Everything must be understood through that historical and present-day lens. Believe them when they say it, for heaven's sake.
Before Zionism (circa 1890s) the Jews and Arabs lived there in peace. BTW... Way more Arabs than Jews. But Britain and The Zionists had to muck things up. Thus we have had over 100 years of hatred. So saying the land (with no actual specific details on size and location) belonged to the Jews is meaningless prattle. THAT, is "some basic history".
The people founding the Zionist state of Israel were Jews from Europe. They were not wanted in Palestine by the British, but did a bit of terror and assassinations (see Quigley , Tragedy and Hope) and succeeded in bringing in more and more. The Palestinians have also lived there for quite some time. Looking at the dwindling territory of the Palestinians over the decades makes me think hard about the right of European-origin Jews to take up so much space in Palestine. But I guess when one is a Jew, that skepricism doesn't come naturally.
You don’t listen. Even to our skepticism. Why? Because what I’ve been saying over and over again you refuse to regard because it’s much easier to fall back into “those lying Jews.” It’s remarkable.
Socialist Zionism is not spiritual Zionism.
Clearly you don’t see how this will go if you keep playing this game and refusing to realize that this identity politics isn’t really about us. Or me. It’s about you. The action is the reaction. Even when a Jew stands with you and says yes - we share an enemy. The moment the chance presents itself your juvenile need to have someone to blame - that very old mass formation igniters and EVEN after these last three years you bite the bait?
Well - you might. I don’t honestly care. But Celia is wiser and SHE is why I’m bothering with your willful ignorance and childishness.
Pity.
Why? Because no one has been as mind blowing impressive to me as non Jews who see this and stand and think and act with a modicum of mature awareness of reality - and a real value for humanity.
Take this man. You’ve heard over and over how much he hated Jews. Hell he inspired the Germanic assault upon Jews like no one ever had. Right?
“Of the people of Israel. Among the spectacles to which the coming century invites us is the decision as to the destiny of the Jews of Europe. That their die is cast, that they have crossed their Rubicon, is now palpably obvious: all that is left for them is either to become the masters of Europe or to lose Europe as they once a long time ago lost Egypt, where they had placed themselves before a similar either-or. In Europe, however, they have gone through an eighteen-century schooling such as no other nation of this continent can boast of and what they have experienced in this terrible time of schooling has benefited the individual to a greater degree than it has the community as a whole. As a consequence of this, the psychological and spiritual resources of the Jews today are extraordinary; of all those who live in Europe they are least liable to resort to drink or suicide in order to escape from some profound dilemma something the less gifted are often apt to do. Every Jew possesses in the history of his fathers and grandfathers a great fund of examples of the coldest self-possession and endurance in fearful situations, of the subtlest outwitting and exploitation of chance and misfortune; their courage beneath the cloak of miserable submission, their heroism in spernere se sperni, surpasses the virtues of all the saints. For two millennia an attempt was made to render them contemptible by treating them with contempt, and by barring to them the way to all honours and all that was honourable, and in exchange thrusting them all the deeper into the dirtier trades and it is true that they did not grow cleaner in the process. But contemptible? They themselves have never ceased to believe themselves called to the highest things, and the virtues which pertain to all who suffer have likewise never ceased to adorn them. The way in which they honour their fathers and their children, the rationality of their marriages and marriage customs, distinguish them among all Europeans. In addition to all this, they have known how to create for themselves a feeling of power and of eternal revenge out of the very occupations left to them (or to which they were left); one has to say in extenuation even of their usury that without this occasional pleasant and useful torturing of those who despised them it would have been difficult for them to have preserved their own self-respect for so long. For our respect for ourselves is tied to our being able to practise requital, in good things and bad. At the same time, however, their revenge does not easily go too far: for they all possess the liberality, including liberality of soul, to which frequent changes of residence, of climate, of the customs of one's neighbours and oppressors educates men; they possess by far the greatest experience of human society, and even in their passions they practise the caution taught by this experience. They are so sure in their intellectual suppleness and shrewdness that they never, even in the worst straits, need to earn their bread by physical labour, as common workmen, porters, agricultural slaves. Their demeanour still reveals that their souls have never known chivalrous noble sentiments nor their bodies handsome armour: a certain importunity mingles with an often charming but almost always painful submissiveness. But now, since they are unavoidably going to ally themselves with the best aristocracy of Europe more and more with every year that passes, they will soon have created for themselves a goodly inheritance of spiritual and bodily demeanour: so that a century hence they will appear sufficiently noble not to make those they dominate ashamed to have them as masters. And that is what matters! That is why it is still too soon for a settlement of their affairs! They themselves know best that a conquest of Europe, or any kind of act of violence, on their part is not to be thought of: but they also know that at some future time Europe may fall into their hands like a ripe fruit if they would only just extend them. To bring that about they need, in the meantime, to distinguish themselves in every domain of European distinction and to stand everywhere in the first rank: until they have reached the point at which they themselves determine what is distinguishing. Then they will be called the inventors and signposts of the nations of Europe and no longer offend their sensibilities. And whither shall this assembled abundance of grand impressions which for every Jewish family constitutes Jewish history, this abundance of passions, virtues, decisions, renunciations, struggles, victories of every kind whither shall it stream out if not at last into great men and great works! Then, when the Jews can exhibit as their work such jewels and golden vessels as the European nations of a briefer and less profound experience could not and cannot produce, when Israel will have transformed its eternal vengeance into an eternal blessing for Europe: then there will again arrive that seventh day on which the ancient Jewish God may rejoice in himself, his creation and his chosen people and let us all, all of us, rejoice with him!”
The other day I read a phrase about the News of these years: "Even when it's real, it's still fake."
Some people get angry at that phrase, they see as the ultimate stage of paranoia. Which is funny, as it denotes they haven't seen real paranoia just yet.
But I like that phrase, because of the embeded switch of the subject: what it's fake is everything they add upon the News, how much effort they put in linking all sorts of propaganda with real facts, as if the lies were less that way.
I made a connection when I read your phrase "the action is the reaction." Strange!
For example: I don't know whether there is anyone out there trying to get me, but, just in case, I make it public that when I go out for a walk, I may or may not bring with me several unicorns who shoot laser beams from their eyes. Or was it an AR-10 they are hiding in the horn? I forget.
(note: for those who don't know the lore of riffles, the AR-10 is the younger sister of the AR-15. The tradition here in Oklajoma is to gift an AR-15 to kids when they reach 15 or so, but only if they have been training with the AR-10 for at least 7 years.)
I’m sorry you’ve been so convinced that you are at the mercy of such a thing. People who did that are very very good at it. It isn’t true though. I just saw you are older and on SS. This is an incredibly cruel thing to do to a person. For what it’s worth, whether you choose to believe me or not, I’ve been authentic and not illogical with you here.
This is truly not the place for such discussion. It should not be a spectator sport. If I could have a wish or would be to meet and discuss face to face. You may not believe me, but it’s true. My relentlessness is because of how strong my personal (I don’t speak for her here only me) bond to Celia is.
We are strangers. She and I are not.
I do hope one day we can address this in a more human way - like I said. Easy come, easy go. This is worth untangling with better deference and kindness than it was inflicted upon human beings.
So with that in mind I’m sorry for any offense or pain or discomfort. I know there is a person behind this handle.
I hope one day we see the luxury of discourse without so much rage and fear on these topics. But it will take hard work. I only hope, Baruch haschem, the hardships stop growing. That’s been the truly satanic thing we’ve all been victims of. We all deserve better than that.
I hope that’s worth something in your arithmetic to determine my sincerity. Best I can think to do under the circumstances.
The supposed shadowy beginnings or machinations behind the scene are irrelevant to the fact that these people want all Jews dead and won’t stop till they are.
The people founding the Zionist state of Israel were Jews from Europe. They were not wanted in Palestine by the British, but did a bit of terror and assassinations (see Quigley , Tragedy and Hope) and succeeded in bringing in more and more. The Palestinians have also lived there for quite some time. Looking at the dwindling territory of the Palestinians over the decades makes me think hard about the right of European-origin Jews to take up so much space in Palestine. But I guess when one is a Jew, that skepricism doesn't come naturally.
The most brainwashed people are generally the ones accusing everyone else of being brainwashed, or stupid, or having their head up their arse, or whatever. You literally are ignoring the Hamas charter because you think Mossad encouraged its existence at some point. Let’s say that’s true. Does that negate Hamas’ responsibility for these war crimes ? Does that make what they just did acceptable? Are the Israelis to just shrug their shoulders and ignore the women and children who were taken? As for the deed to the Middle East land known as Israel, you can find that in the Old Testament, where the Creator spoke.
I'm happy to fill you in on what you're missing: You cannot see that your opinion is just that - an opinion. You therefore think it's acceptable to act like an ass toward anyone who disagrees with you. And here in this little echo chamber that is Celia's substack, there are plenty of you, including as I have discovered, people much more advanced in ass-behavior than you, people who deny the holocaust, and people who tell me in detail how they'd like to kill me, for disagreeing with them. But mostly, you all are pretty poor argument-makers, since you seem to default ever so quickly to the incredibly juvenile - "you're stupid!" Good lord. Anyway, you cannot prove much of what you're opining. As to whether you wrote something that gave me the idea that the perps should be let go - why yes you did give me that idea, of course, because that is exactly what the Israelis are trying to do - get those perps. And you don't like that. Your other comments are somewhat strange - I think you just said that the IDF's goal is to kill all the people of Israel, which doesn't make sense, but then again you weren't writing very understandably. As to the Bible, there is a pretty clear chain of custody for that document - an abundance of historical and scholarly evidence that manuscripts are intact as to meaning. And yes, the Creator God made a covenant with the Jews, in His sovereign wisdom. Israel is theirs and was rightly restored to them in 1948. Now, there is nothing in there about the world's largest outdoor prison but then again - it really wasn't a prison until last week now was it?
Are you simply unable to disagree with someone without every other sentence being to tell them they're stupid, evil, or a fool? I have labored to not give back insult for insult, but nevertheless much of your writing is still just that - juvenile, "you're dumb." Hmmm all right. When you say "you have been in perpetual war with people there since 1948" - who's "you"? I am not Israel. But in case that's what you meant (you really weren't very clear), if one little country is surrounded by people attacking it, there are going to be a lot of wars, which you say is somehow Israel's fault - but the example you offered was a supposed conflict with the U.S., which has never been to war with Israel. So again - not real clear, not real logical, not real persuasive. As to the Bible, there is more scholarly proof of its legitimacy as an ancient document that any other ancient writings that nobody questions. The chain of custody, as you called it, is solid. But of course the problem isn't the Bible, it's people who don't want to submit to the Creator God whose story is depicted throughout. But did I understand you to say that bad powerful people wrote the Bible? Because that's a pretty wild and entirely unfounded charge. I do have faith in God, and know that His word is true. Do you not see the irony that you said "you have this faith in things that you can't prove"? Because, can you prove God is not the Creator? Can you prove the Bible is not true? You might want to consider your own "faith" and how it cannot be proven. As for the covenant - that is not an opinion, it is a fact, recorded in that very book, and attested to by a great deal of related historical evidence. Now, how Israel came to be reinstated as a nation in that land 70 or so years ago was not a direct command of God from the Bible, so if you don't like any part of that you can't blame Him. However, I've found that a lot of people are misled when it comes to their perception of that time period, probably because they're only reading one perspective. Humans never do anything perfectly now do we? Anyway. That God, the God of the Bible, the God of the Jews, chose a people to represent Him, and to serve as a conduit by which He would send the Savior to offer reconciliation with Him to everyone. And you do want a relationship with that God. If you reject Him, then you are the one who doesn't know the difference between Him and Satan. I certainly do. And that's why I grieve for the Palestinians who suffer under their regime, who have and will die in this mess, because all loss of human life is tragic. Every terrorist who dies, even in the midst of trying to kill someone else, is in many ways just as tragic a loss as the terrorist's victim, because it represents a precious human life, wasted. As for Israel however, they believe this is an existential threat, and they have good reason to believe that. This conflict will not end well for anyone, most likely.
Well, I guess that's better than your previous juvenile insults, but your argument is still lacking, as it appears to have been mounted against things I never said, but apparently live in your brain. Sorry, you'll have to try harder.
See my response. Your discussion style is very off-putting, with the constant assumption that everyone who doesn't agree with you is "dishonest" or "programmed" or a "fool." Please shine that light back on yourself. You just might find some chinks in your paper armor.
Have you been to Israel? It’s full of Arab citizens, they serve in the Knesset, the IDF, etc. I guess Jews are really bad at both genocide AND apartheid.
You know, here in Spain there are some people who live under the intense gaze of terrorist organizations. They live in small towns, and if they don't vote as they are "invited" to vote, things will happen to them.
Exactly. So not the same thing, no? And there were a lot of Palestinians celebrating in the streets of Gaza immediately after the first killings so… why do you assume they don’t want the government they have? Seems like you could be dead wrong on that.
Is it naive, or realistic? The barbarous activity that unfolded a week ago isn’t AI. What would be shocking about a culture willing to kidnap babies also being willing to celebrate slaughter? Seems more likely than not, actually. Have you been to Israel? Because I find the most “low information voters” are the ones who’ve never seen anything with their own eyes.
Woke law of projection. It works 💯 % 100% of the time. Calling someone else stupid is a dead give away to an other theological capture.
Purpose and logic are not the same thing. Your conflation of them and spinning Purpose into truth is no longer a mystery to me when anyone does it. Shame so much wisdom is being squandered. But then again- people do love dead Jews. Nearly as much as they love killers.
Typique. Vous assumez l’empire pour toutes choses. Rien à voir avec ce que j'ai dit. Rien n'a changé depuis 1967. Les poufs ? La haine des empires vous a rendu stupide pendant que vous fermez les yeux sur la guerre contre la mémoire. La révolution a pris fin au moment où vous avez sacrifié votre culture et méprisé la liberté.
I don’t understand the Francophile suicidal insistence these last 30 years - your scorn for reality is no replacement for your scorn for Brutalism. You’ve mixed the two up at the alter of never ending revolutionary je ne sai pas - which is a cheap trade. Without chauvinism French socialism is simply suicide by the new empires.
I don't understand the insult, so I'm gonna laugh and enjoy your energy.
My response to the ironic comment by "Melvyn Punymeyer" was inspired by a memory of watching "South Park," a tv show that is a major contributing factor of my permanent brain damage.
I like Hungarians, by the way. They invented spicy peppers. Until then, the pepper was a humble and sweet botanical plant. Hungarians are good in my book.
Your failure to either know or share context of Rabbi Shapiro’s position is akin to saying that a Messianic Rabbi is proof that Jews have tried to say that Christ is the messiah.
Remember how often people would say something in MSM and if it was what someone wished to hear they would see it as a “trusted source?”
Tell me, why now are so many in lockstep with MSM when just moments ago they’re were aware something was not right. Or that something was trying to destroy us. Or that woke was a threat?
Yet now- we see people with good sense minutes ago simply nodding with agreement with the mainstream.
And our cries are ignored. People who moments ago stood beside us fighting for freedom are now pointing and blaming as if life is ever that simple?
My grief at how this has so effectively happened - how Jews are used once again as swords and shields and people who I never imagined - mostly in media - are being so foolish it’s mind bending.
Then I realize how this has happened before. And i don’t mean what most of you think and yes I’m being intentionally vague because at this moment and on this platform....it would be irresponsible of me not to be.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant they say yes?
Well - not everything we think is an infection is, or is a threat.
Once again, the disease model has been released upon the earth and once again- those you never imagined could be blind to it are.
On a very real level I do know this- as pained as I am, I’m not the target. We are not the target.
You are.
For heaven’s sake listen.
And those who taught everyone in western media this method of horrific mass conversion- which is what this both simplified and too simply put is - my their names be forgotten.
You think you can speak of redundancy by quoting the English dictionary?
You are woke.
Only the woke are so stupid about language.
Bravo. You’re behaving like a convert away from Christianity. Good thing my mother is Hungarian. We don’t coddle you when you do this.
I don’t need your gratitude. I love Celia. That’s the only reason I’m bothering with your sophomoric and childish adjudication.
You’re lucky. Very few people survived to remember and want to not let you or anyone let your ignorance justify your thinking those who have turned you into useful idiots.
We clearly don’t share the same rules. You will never speak for my covenant with the lunar calendar and your attempt to, is why I say - you are a fool. Who’s rules are you claiming? And how dare you speak for them NOW?
Get your priorities straight. How insane to say such a thing or imply such a thing or claim this is QUIBBLING. Your contempt is more revolting than hatred. I feel sorry for you.
I’m a Jew. You have been brainwashed to believe the stupidity of socialism - and believe that somehow our conversion from Jews to the religion of the liberation theology is complete.
You’re a fool.
But you are not my enemy. So...what I mean when I say may their names be forgotten is not any if your business.
Now, what I ask you to not do is, to be more clear, to not engage with this particular person in an exchange of insults. A good argument for that is in that post I just linked to.
First, Ooana is an artist. Artists are almost always difficult to follow.
Second, I think Rabbi Shapiro is one who says that there is a divine decree of exile, that Jews must not have their own land, their own state. Most religious Jews, of any variant, disagree.
I think it's time we all recognize that zionists are not really religious but mostly secular, and only use religion when it suits them, and most religious Jews are not real zionists even if they have a political alliance with that political ideology.
Then, there are also secular Jews who are no zionists at all, and who despise all religion.
All these three kinds of people clearly disagree with the doctrine of divinely decreed exile, and think it's good that Jews have their own State. And they disagree on everything else.
In my opinion, the zionist ideology is essentially violent, and belongs originally to an epoch were political violence was a rising value. Let me name-drop Georges Sorel here, who was part of a trend, and not a maverick.
Religious leaders don't want freedom. They want strict social control. Most Atheists also want social control and hate freedom. Freedom is always the enemy. That's why we are constantly bombarded with messages telling us we are helpless, useless, victims, we need revenge, there is no future, hope is evil, faith is irrational, etc.
Politically, it is convenient that people are always in fear of the God-State. Humanity has been under the yoke of the religion of politics for at least 400 years, since Hobbes, and violence and destruction have only increased, not decreased. So the idea that it was the false beliefs of religious what were responsible for violence in antiquity seems to have been disproven. Humans are violent, regardless what they believe.
Religion and politics are frienemies.
I don't know why there is so much effort in trying to prove that political freedom is bad. Most people naturally avoid political freedom. They really don't need to be forcibly treated for the mental illness of desiring political freedom with so much propaganda. And those of us who want political freedom don't buy the propaganda. It's absurd. Maybe it's not absurd. People in politics can turn stones into gold.
What would you say to the argument that socialist Zionism is indeed as you say? Have you read or heard of this? This Is My God https://a.co/d/epjeMd2
The final chapters inspired my thoughts on the subject. Much like so many ideas of the last century, and much like the ultimate goal of total conversion, socialism uses idealisms for its own ends and if we are not vigilant, destroys it.
I’m far from certain that the institution of Zionism is Zionism anymore than queer theory is gay history or cultural Marxism is civil rights or Transhumanism is Humane.
I haven't heard about that book. Socialism corrupts everything, so to make things right one has to look back before the corruption. I accept that maybe the blanket term Zionism is unfair to be equated to those bastards who have been provoking political chaos everywhere. Maybe there are zionists who are not interested in creating wars. I don't know enough. But individual people are always more valuable than institutions and ideas, in my opinion.
War is bad, M'kay? If there is a war anywhere, it should end. That sounds reasonable to me. People of any country should not have to see their lives destroyed by the greed of the weapons dealers. Which is related to the global covid democide: the greed of those damned racists to have the world only for themselves seems now to be the cause behind the plandemonium.
In internet jargon I am what is derisively known as a midwit, which is above average IQ but not smart enough. Over the years and in many sites, commenters have argued that midwits are the people who suffer the most on the internet: they get attacked equally by the dummies and the really smart people. So, dummies understand their place in the world, smarties more or less understand that too, and midwits are always doubting and seeking their role in the great theater that is the world. Sometimes, they fall into solipsism, to everyone's relief.
I apologize for offending you, that wasn't my intention.
I watched his teaching a few days ago and was aghast that he mislabels the situation for Jews and Creator’s relationship to us as one as exiles or somehow a singular class with a singular perspective on things such as warrior and sport and how we view such things and what we do and do not revere (nothing of course replaces God.) His position while seemingly based on a wisdom - is so counter to what has kept our wisdom alive this long.
I see a man, who isn’t self hating. Not at all. I see one who has become victim of his own remedy. Much like those who believed and rejected therapeutics for the last three years.
Notice his archaic mention of Bruce Lee? Oy vey.
I think I see why such things have happened...and I wish we weren’t being poised and posed in such an opposition.
Fear is the mind killer.
I can’t imagine why this is what he called Torah Jews anymore than some other teacher calls the modern reboot ofOrthodox Christianity” second temple Christianity.
The wounds of Russian Orthodoxy wielded by ungodly men and women runs so deep that we nearly forget our own “family” history sometime.
God didn’t exile those who formed spiritual Zionism anymore than god exiled those who decided to please him by rejecting socialist Zionism.
Liberation theology and the wounds of Stalin - and his nightmare made reality are very very very deep and never discussed.
Sadly politics often maintains a better record than anyone else - particularly after trauma and death. Who’s
left is a question rarely asked...ever. When artists are murdered the art of polemics and activists often sweep in and use such moments in history as artifice.
But that doesn’t mean some of us don’t remember. Artists both usher in and defeat totalitarian creep.
Much respect to Andrew Breitbart but culture isn’t upstream or downstream from politics. Art IS the stream, politics are embankments.
It’s vital for all of us who tap into that stream, no matter what politics might save the memory from drowning into oblivion, to remember the lesson (both in its inspiration and it’s amalgamated wisdom) “we will outlive them.”
In Joan Peters' book "From Time Immemorial" (1984), she argues (and seems to present reliable evidence) that Zionism in fact was a dream of Jews for centuries during which most of them languished under Islamic oppression in various parts of the Islamic empire (some of them figuring out Kapo-ish ways to get along with their Muslim Masters) -- i.e., that it was NOT merely some 19th century idea with no historical roots.
Wikipedia:
"In From Time Immemorial (1984), she argued that Palestinians are largely not indigenous to modern Israel and therefore have no claim to its territory.[6] The book, a best-seller, became controversial. Scholars and writers such as Norman Finkelstein,[7] Noam Chomsky,[8] Edward Said[9] Yehoshua Porath.[10] and Ian and David Gilmour criticized it.[11]"
Notice how her pro-Israel anti-Palestinian book has been attacked by... Jews LOL. I think Joan Peters herself was Jewish, since the same Wikipedia entry lists it under these Categories: "1938 births / 2015 deaths / American non-fiction writers / Writers on the Middle East / Journalists from Chicago / Jewish American writers / Jewish women writers".
An interesting coda as well:
"Peters died at her home in Chicago in 2015 of a cerebral embolism.[2][12] Shortly before her death, the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, Ron Prosor, telephoned to convey to her that Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was deeply grateful for her work.[1] "
I'm splainin' for myself, I have no idea of what her exact ideas are.
You are probably right that this was not the best place to post that. It's more about my interpretation of this conundrum than explaining anything with laser precision.
I don't care to come off as rude, beacuse I have a very cute face IRL and I'm basically a giant hairball so it's a good contrast that my voice sounds rude. It makes me more real and less of an agent.
I highly recommend you read Hannah Ardent’s work “The Origins of Totalitarianism” and Merloo’s “Rape of the Mind.”
I’m not only opposed to genocide of course. I’m even MORE opposed to what’s far worse and far more common. Democide.
And the game being played here by a dangerous relation masquerading as a politic or economic system or philosophy (it’s none of these) is one to assure no one sees democide when they can cry genocide.
Democide is what brought us together here. A fight against it.
Her book and her writings s I think will really be helpful.
Btw - fellow Jews and others just labeled her “victim blaming.” She also coined the term “banality of evil.” An evil we are all familiar with since 2020.
PS I lost friends then. Never imagined I’d feel the same loss now or threat of it. It’s been - if I’m in a good movement id say 2020 trained me. If I’m feeling less confident - I cry out. Because these days have been harder than I can express adequately with words.
I’m stumbling a bit on this UX to reply properly. I’d like to speak more if you would. Celia has my contact info or my DMs are open on twitter. Also my substack may be a way. I’d very much like to discuss more without the pressure of spectators and my feelings or protectiveness for the Author. Also this is her space, don’t want to hijack. About to be behind the wheel for 15 or so. Will come back and see if you’ve found a way to get a pigeon to me. 🌱
Hannah Arendt (sic) -- lol! Make up a story and then psychoanalyze it!
Most 'intellectuals' don't feel the need to look into details, but the holocaust, had it actually happened, was in *no way* 'banal'. It would have been one of the most excruciatingly horrific experience for the*perpetrators*. The fact that Arendt could make a career out of analyzing something that she obviously hadn't researched in any way, shape or form is... well, an indictment on the university system.
Of course, anyone that's been following Covid understands that the university system has been dead for *decades*.
Oh, and covid *was* banal, in the sense of Arendt... and, curiously, many of its proponents had a certain say, genetic background. Projection?
And now dare you turn COVID into some Jewish plot? That’s madness and so stupid it barely can even be addressed.
If anything - the blame should therefore be placed squarely on YOU for ignoring Israeli warnings that were coming from the start. But your hatred and contempt and stupidity made you not hear or fight for them to be heard and now here we are.
Well done. Banality of evil indeed. How much blood has to be on your hands before you realize you can’t wash it off?
This an abhorrent thing to say and frankly - I’m glad you did. Because I’ve had rose colored glasses when it comes to the evil of identitarians like you.
YOU are a deceptive sadist with a fetish for genetics. Sounds a bit like the character of those whose policies we were attacked with now doesn’t it?
Good. I know exactly what you are. You eugenics obsessed weasel.
Ooana: Covid was a plot of the 'oligarchs'. Some are jewish, some aren't. It really doesn't matter, since they all seem to be trying to do the same thing.
I don't really understand your 2nd paragraph. Alex Berenson was instrumental in keeping the Covid statistics honest, and when he lost the plot, Igor Chudov and 'Amidwesterndoctor' took up the mantle. All three are jewish, as is Celia, and I appreciate all of them. Also, Nobel winner Michael Levitt ran the numbers on China quite convincingly.
Wtf are you talking about? Have you read a word of her writing? My god, wtf is this? What I’ve suggested is to help save our collective asses - that’s why she wrote it and said it. You sound just like those who worship a golden calf and said the same thing to her, not understanding her point and shunning her for pointing to reality. You’d rather suffer and die and lose to monsters than assess that evil doesn’t twirl a Moustache or look like you’d expect. It’s BANAL. And we ALL risk being part of it if and when we deny this fact.
Ooana: you seem to have missed the point. Arendt is largely talking about the evils of the NatSoc regime. Since the holocaust didn't happen (the engineering -- as related to us by *jewish* 'eyewitnesses' -- is laughably impossible), it's difficult to consider the NatSocs 'evil'.
Would they have become evil had they won the war... who knows?
Ooana: Arendt was talking about how evil can emerge from hum-drum people filling in boxes on forms, unaware that they're part of an over-arching evil regime... much like the individual doctors pushing vaccines are simply doing their job -- but the sum-total of their actions is evil.
A good example of this is my country, Cambodia, where, after the civil war, the Pol Pot regime implemented disastrous agricultural and social policies that lead to the death of hundreds of thousands. This fits the bill of 'banality of evil'. But imagine that his policies had worked! Then Arendt could have published 'the banality of Good'!
The crux of the matter is that NatSocs are considered 'evil' because of the holocaust -- which, since it didn't happen, isn't much of an argument. They also flirted with Euthanasia, until the Catholic Church forced them to stop; and they wanted the jews to leave the country. I suspect that you'd be too emotional to consider that this latter point makes a ton of sense. The world is waking up to the fact that multi-culti (or tikkun olam, if you want) is an abomination.
As an aside: Anyone reading Celia's blog both thinks and learns quite regularly.
I’d hope no one believes in such a thing. Why do you think people do? Do you think the world is full of that much evil? If so - that’s only because it’s a great way for you to lose site of the bastards who have always used it as a means to an end.
You must be so insecure. You can’t even answer his question. You just throw more media mafia bullshit at the people already picked apart and picked off for decades.
If RFK wins you know what will be the most amazing moment? The moment he snaps the modernization of smith Mundt like a twig and sends this insanity scurrying.
Liberation theology poisoned the DNC and your desperation to blame the Jews for this is about as clear as the noon day sun.
The tragedy of these days is, in my opinion, caused by evil politicians like Netanyahu.
I didn't know that Jimmy Dore was part of the media mafia. Although it is possible because he is supporting Dr. McCullough, who says some weird globalist things from time to time.
So, your argument is that this story about the Government of Israel creating the Golem that is Hamas is false? That's interesting. Tell me more, please. I don't owe allegiance to Spike Cohen, and libertarians are often wrong on many things, so, I'm not sure.
I think Jewish voices have been trying to warn the Jewish people since it's introduction it was bad for them, and sadly really was never about them.
Propaganda is a very powerful tool
Propaganda, financial incentives, sophisticated mind control. The Luciferian royal family in Great Britain wanted to annoint their antichrist in the Third Temple, and used various pretexts to retain Jerusalem. It was always about the end times.
Those same Lefty " Jewish Voices" elected Joe Biden.
Their advice is not good, they lack discretion and sense.
So when do you think Zionism was first thought of and brought about, that you believe they'd still be around to vote for Biden? I won't wait for your response.
Hint: Zionism emerged in this mix as a particular form of nationalism: the idea that Jews could be fully realized culturally and politically only in a homeland of their own. This thinking took shape in particular in the work of Leon Pinsker in his 1882 text “Autoemancipation.”
"The earliest Zionist settlers, known as the first Aliyah (wave of immigration), emerge in Eastern Europe following the events of 1882. The “Lovers of Zion” sent tiny groups of Jews to purchase lands mostly in the Jaffa region and Galilee. But they were very disorganized. The major organization came from Central Europeans, and most importantly Theodor Herzl, who in 1897 convened the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland. Still, though, they believed that the actual target population was those facing pogroms in Eastern Europe, most of them assumed they would not personally move."
They leave the bit out involving Sir Rothschild or Bauer as his name was in Germany, though I've now heard it referred to as Bayer though I've never seen it mentioned in any research I've come across.
" In mid-June of 1895, Herzl drafted a long address to the Rothschild Family Council, the forum of the other immensely wealthy Jewish family of the time. But he was unable to elicit any interest."
Then several years later they meet again, and do I believe a lot of information involving Sir Rothschild is let out, or unknown by the author? Most assuredly. These two portions are from this link. There are many other references that differ on many aspects, I'll leave that up to you, so am just posting these versions.
https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/israel-zionism/2021/01/the-mystery-of-theodor-herzl/
"Herzl’s testimony was eloquent, but he felt he had performed poorly, confiding to his diary that he had spoken and understood English badly. The next day he met the chairman of the Commission, Lord James of Hereford, hoping to “repair the bad impression which I felt I had made.” Lord James told him a Jewish colony somewhere could only be achieved with the help of Lord Rothschild, and so Herzl met with Rothschild again the next day, and promised to send him a plan for an immediate Jewish colony. He suggested Cyprus, while emphasizing he would not give up on the long-term goal of Palestine."
"Opposition to Zionism"
"Though Zionism has a particular logic that emerged from the events surrounding it, not all Jews subscribed to that logic and in fact a majority of Jews initially did not. Their opposition stemmed from a number of directions. Jewish liberals, committed to the idea of Jewish integration, thought that Zionism, by conceding to the permanence of anti-Semitism, would in turn lead to more anti-Semitism. Orthodox Jews believed that Jews had been exiled in ancient times because of their sins and would return only with God’s will and in messianic times. They believed that taking action to return to Palestine en masse was nothing short of heresy. This religious opposition would change as religious streams of Zionism emerged, but it is important to recall that Orthodoxy was initially deeply opposed to Zionism. Another Jewish group, Autonomists, believed in the national and cultural specificity of Jews, but believed that the solution to Jewish problems would be found within the places they lived, by demanding cultural autonomy. Many of them promoted Yiddish (not Hebrew) as the Jewish national language. Meanwhile, some Jews thought that the division by nationality was highly inappropriate and joined socialist movements not organized in national terms."
"To understand how this initially small movement evolved into a major political force, we need to look at it in stages, always understanding the tension between the national purpose Zionism would serve in Europe and the settlement project itself."
This is from a group creating a teaching manual, as it seems you've no background in Zionism you may want to read it. Do I agree with all of it? I don't agree with "ALL" of anything, especially coming from the so called educational system. May as well put an AI bot in charge, and most probably will come about the way things are going.
https://www.fpri.org/article/2015/01/origins-and-evolution-of-zionism/
"This essay is based on a lecture she delivered to FPRI’s Butcher History Institute on “Teaching about Israel and Palestine,” October 25-26, 2014. The Butcher History Institute is FPRI’s professional development program for high school teachers from all around the country."
Your middle name wouldn't be presumption, would it?
I have subscribed to Mosaic for years, and you have nothing new to offer that I was unaware of.
Starting off with silliness like you did, and then baseless presumption leading to no aooarent point makes it very hard to take you seriously.
Not worth a comment
To blame how someone votes for this stuff is to show you’ve no idea how awful this would be and how possible it is to happen to you - In fact - it is.
No one says over bodies “well, they voted wrong.”
Not everything is the quest for the holy grail 😉
Or rather that it was Co-opted by something very bad for all of us. But then again - that’s how Stalin snagged the first “Anti-Fascists.”
Amazing how Jews try to be heard over the noise of democide- but are still blamed for their own demise.
Funny thing that.
Makes it hard not to wonder if non-Jews have what’s akin to death by cop wishes or something.
I'm wondering if some of this isn't pent up anger about the vaccines forced on the people, and as disclosures increase about the purposefully built contaminated DNA injection, immune system suppression and deaths coming from it. I, frankly as a religious outsider who views the Jewish people as chosen from biblical times, was shocked to see the forced injections being accepted so readily, when it appears to be a slow-motion kill shot that will also sterilize them.
Of course it is. That was an act of corporate biowarfare against the Israeli people, and was not only an act of war, but was an illegal act even in a time of war. The Israeli corporate government violated the trust of Israel by attacking them with bioweapons. When they did that they forfeited their constitutional duties and voided all contracts with the Israeli people. Many other corporate governments have done the same thing, in the five eyes and throughout western Europe.
Yes, netanyahu has sacroficed the citizens in more than one way.
Would you mind sharing that? This is helping wake up a lot of people here in the US. Hopefully it will hold officials accountable prior to elections here.
I'm sorry but I can't tell which message you replied to. What is it you would like to see?
How Netanyahu has sacrificed the citizens in more than one way.
Oh, I said that based on how hd pumpwd all of tbe poison in the people, lied to rhem about safety but not only that. It appears he allowed them to be attacked. They have a very sophisticated military, best spying country there is, guard towers everywhere, drone surveillance, technology to pick up tunneling, and can pick up a roach at the fence line but somehow huge batteries were moved into place, people floated in on flying motorcycles and came right through and no one noticed for hours? I have read that Egypt told them of the attack being planned. I believe this was a "LIHOP." Let it happen operation.
This is an amazing interview with Bret Weinstein and Efrat Fenigson (prior Israeli intelligence) on the improbabilities of the initial Hamas attack and the implausible reasons given.
It's looking like Israeli citizens WERE indeed sacrificed to provoke a response that justified a wholesale attack on Hamas/Gaza. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEfuBg0TIMk
Where did I hear this before? Or right. Trump and COVID.
Good recycling 👍🏻 carbon zero is just over the horizon.
Zero carbon=zero life.
That’s right.
We are the carbon. And everyone here is being so damn suicidal by not seeing what’s actually going on because “the jooooos”.
It’s shockingly stupid.
This is interesting idea because those who taken the vaxx seem to be more aggressive than non-vaxxed. But this whole sorry "Gleiwitz incident" story was planned. Most likely, that is.
There is no historical support for this "chosen people" myth.
That baloney was completely made up by the Khazarian mafia.
Wtf does this even mean. What do you think chosen means? Do you even know? Or do you think you know?
Question: Was the Khazarian mafia there for the writing of Exodus (19:5) or Deuteronomy (7:6-8, 14:2, 26:17-19) or a number of other ancient books of the Bible?
Long before that.
They influenced those fake writings.
Yes they are Philistines. Their religion is very ancient. They've changed little in 6,000 years, since their god Baal-Zebub, Son of Dagon, taught them at the Philistine city of Ekron to drink the adrenalized blood of their human sacrifices. You will never find people more in the thrall of religious superstition than these unfortunate swine, and they are very dedicated to their priests and the system of priestcraft that has come down to them from their parent's gods (Moloch, Nimrod, and Baal-Zebub--who may be just different names for the same person).
"They've become the fascists that they supposedly despised." Hard to see it otherwise.
Baseless, ignorant nonsense.
You don't know what you are spewing.
John- he does know. That’s wha makes it worse. I can tell he knows exactly what he’s doing. And he’s doing it to my friend and her audience. Shame on him.
Yep. I do know. What’s amazing is that you would speak of love for Jesus out of one side of your mouth and defame, libel and curse Jews out of another. whoever taught you this is not your friend. I’m not being nasty toward you, I’m sincerely stunned by what you’ve been saying and how terrible it must feel to believe.
You. Do. Not. Speak. For. God.
Stop trying.
Virtually all the references to "the Jews" in the Gospel of John are negative.
Isn't it past your bedtime?
Mumbo Jumbo to you too, kid.
Remember to conveniently forget the vow to drive Israel into the sea, forget the pals already were given the big half, which is Jordan, forget the Murder Bombers and their Blood Money, forget the billions of dollars siphoned by one corrupt Muslim regime after another, keep pretending they are a refugee people seventy five years down the line, setting a world record unlikely to ever be broken, forget the adamant refusal of all the wealthy oil rich Arab states to grant citizenship to people whose ancestors more likely than not actually originated in those states, don't contrast that with all the Jews evicted throughout Arabia in 1948 who were completely absorbed by a struggling, nascent Israel,and above all forget what happened just a week ago and so many other times across seventy five years.
Oh,and don't look at a map and see how utterly absurd it is for Arabs to claim more land.
So you speak for Satan? Interesting.
I understand and accept everything you're saying. God has made a covenant and does not walk away except when sin and a turning away by the people is in place. God is patient, and I suppose there will be much suffering that must occur before they are humbled enough to accept God. It's happened in the past with periods of prosperity, but it took significant damage to turn things around.
We don’t believe god walks away then either. He’s everything and everywhere.
No. This is a twisted fabrication of this story.
Your “kindness” here isn’t kind. It’s stupid. Not because you are stupid but because you also are a victim of liberation theology indoctrination. What makes me angry with you and others on Celia’s substack is what you’ve poured into HER mind. When you should be celebrating her efforts - you’re abusing her and that’s what this is.
This is pure cluster b narcissistic abuse of my friend and someone I’ve long admired and respected to such a degree - you can’t fathom. And my loyalty to her...you can’t fathom.
Say what you wish about us. I’m not saying NO to you because I care what you think of Jews. I say it because I won’t let you commit such a sin as you are against someone I do love and does deserve your gratitude.
I see exactly what you are doing and I don’t care if anyone else understands or doesn’t. When she understands this REMNANT will be there for her to know my sincerity.
What I don’t know, is if you are a snake or simply a victim. Since you hide behind an anon name - I don’t care. Your LARP is poison.
Hate to disappoint. I’m the real deal. I am Jew. My FB is easy to find as am I. I use my real name. You? My skin is in the game. Yours?
Here. I wrote this publicly. Perhaps your issue isn’t with what is say. It’s what I am. And what - btw - Jesus was as well. He would never require me to break my covenant with Haschem because those who follow him know not what they do. That man and I share something in common. Perhaps that’s what makes you hold us in such contempt. Envy.
Let it go. What god would enjoy such fighting amongst his own people - especially, and ironically (god does have a sense of humor) over a region that was once - ready for this? Philestine.
(No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.)
Dear friends -
Amongst these thousands of “FB friends” there are those of you who will perhaps understand this. I’m writing this stunned by but knowing it is unmistakable that I am a Jew. My people are a nation of people. This doesn’t negate or undo my being an American, a New Yorker, Magyar or woman. It is not an issue of loyalty. It simply is. Like a willow tree is a willow tree and an oak is an oak. There is no envy or intent to overtake or be more beloved by the Forrest canopy or the soil my body becomes and then grows from. “I am
Groot.” Thought makes me giggle. “I am Jew.” Makes me
Giggle.
I am deeply soul sad. Makes me weep. But … I am Jew.
Some thoughts on those who wish us annihilated from the planet- not only Hammas. The anti-human, angered, soul sad but juvenile cowards…that have been wanting this for as long as we chose our choices to choose god over and over and over. For eternity- contained in a single lifetime, without longing for death.
I am Jew.
Told ya.
Told me or him?
Him.
Thank you Celia. In the article you linked to, it states: "A Royal Commission of Inquiry headed by William Peel, 1st Earl Peel (1867-1937) was established in 1937. It concluded that Palestine had two distinct societies with irreconcilable political demands, thus making it necessary to partition the land."
Well, there's evidence that the British purposely fomented the conflicts to ensure there would be deep enmity and no chance for peaceful co-existence, by pitting both peoples against each other in nefarious ways. Divide and conquer, control the leaders and the resources.
See Chapter 10 of Cynthia Chung's "The Empire on Which the Black Sun Never Set", posted on her substack here https://cynthiachung.substack.com/cp/137889792 (The British Empire having now morphed into the Anglo-American Empire).
Because those Brits who ushered in WW1 are oh so trust worthy in their understanding of such things. Especially those German royals. :::nods snarkly:::
Selective amnesia is an amazing thing.
Huge gas reserves off the coast of Gaza.
thank you Celia. You've done such amazing work over so many years, a true beacon of hope.
Yes everything we have is a result of govt corruption. Monarchies corporations and the banks have created this whole world of people who follow Satan in their quest for power and riches. They’ve sold their souls right down to those who rely on benefits.
Please, read this other post: https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/the-characteristics-of-witchcraft
What you should be studying is the characteristics of the Political Witch-hunt ritual which - you instead of doing are turning her own wisdom against her.
You’ve no idea how strong a woman Celia is or how deep the friendships she has cultivated for decades goes.
Clearly.
You see, personally I find myself often under the spell of strong emotions like anger, shame, hate, fear. These emotions lead me to behaviors I later regret.
I like to be reminded what Celia reminds us in that post. It was just what I needed.
I feel, perhaps I'm reading your mood wrongly, that you are in pain. I choose to no contribute to make your pain greater.
I've learned a lot from Celia. She's a good person. I'm just only a reader, and a commenter. Sometimes I made bad jokes. I apologize again for any misunderstanding.
Hi sir. I was generalising sorry.
But it’s a fact that so many in this country nz are there by choice. And that situation has been created by govts around the globe with one thing in mind. Control.
But greed and the desire for wealth increases with poverty. It’s that which keeps people looking to improve their lot. Without it you have communism.
Well we now know that the covid variants were developed in the lab. So I guess it was the witch’s that controlled them and all the medical personnel that forced it into the public. That is another good reason to see they hang high.
One day people should understand how SS works: people get peanuts, the rich get the lion's share.
My point is that the criticism of "SS benefits" as an entitlement is incomplete.
Think about this: there are many products and services that could not be sold if people didn't received handouts. People wouldn't buy that with their hard earned money. It's a scheme to have money circulating, create more "jobs" and prevent savings. It's also a way to reduce the value of money, thus creating more dependence. SS works like a charm!
Of course you’ve not sold your soul. God forbid.
I think so many have. Self entitled greedy beings far out weigh the other people
Excellent. Thanks.
Just some basic history. The land belonged to the Jews thousands of years ago, and there have been (some) Jews there continuously since that time. Since becoming a state, "new" Israel has made numerous attempts to work out peace deals with the "Palestinians" (there was never a national state of Palestine), including "peace for land" deals (like Gaza) that have backfired on the Israelis spectacularly. Because as the Hamas charter explicitly lays out, they do not wish Israel to EXIST. They do not wish any Jews to exist. Everything must be understood through that historical and present-day lens. Believe them when they say it, for heaven's sake.
Before Zionism (circa 1890s) the Jews and Arabs lived there in peace. BTW... Way more Arabs than Jews. But Britain and The Zionists had to muck things up. Thus we have had over 100 years of hatred. So saying the land (with no actual specific details on size and location) belonged to the Jews is meaningless prattle. THAT, is "some basic history".
The people founding the Zionist state of Israel were Jews from Europe. They were not wanted in Palestine by the British, but did a bit of terror and assassinations (see Quigley , Tragedy and Hope) and succeeded in bringing in more and more. The Palestinians have also lived there for quite some time. Looking at the dwindling territory of the Palestinians over the decades makes me think hard about the right of European-origin Jews to take up so much space in Palestine. But I guess when one is a Jew, that skepricism doesn't come naturally.
You don’t listen. Even to our skepticism. Why? Because what I’ve been saying over and over again you refuse to regard because it’s much easier to fall back into “those lying Jews.” It’s remarkable.
Socialist Zionism is not spiritual Zionism.
Clearly you don’t see how this will go if you keep playing this game and refusing to realize that this identity politics isn’t really about us. Or me. It’s about you. The action is the reaction. Even when a Jew stands with you and says yes - we share an enemy. The moment the chance presents itself your juvenile need to have someone to blame - that very old mass formation igniters and EVEN after these last three years you bite the bait?
Well - you might. I don’t honestly care. But Celia is wiser and SHE is why I’m bothering with your willful ignorance and childishness.
Pity.
Why? Because no one has been as mind blowing impressive to me as non Jews who see this and stand and think and act with a modicum of mature awareness of reality - and a real value for humanity.
Take this man. You’ve heard over and over how much he hated Jews. Hell he inspired the Germanic assault upon Jews like no one ever had. Right?
Heh. Funny. No. Wrong. #WarOnMemory
https://newramblerreview.com/book-reviews/philosophy/nietzsche-s-hatred-of-jew-hatred
And more...
“Of the people of Israel. Among the spectacles to which the coming century invites us is the decision as to the destiny of the Jews of Europe. That their die is cast, that they have crossed their Rubicon, is now palpably obvious: all that is left for them is either to become the masters of Europe or to lose Europe as they once a long time ago lost Egypt, where they had placed themselves before a similar either-or. In Europe, however, they have gone through an eighteen-century schooling such as no other nation of this continent can boast of and what they have experienced in this terrible time of schooling has benefited the individual to a greater degree than it has the community as a whole. As a consequence of this, the psychological and spiritual resources of the Jews today are extraordinary; of all those who live in Europe they are least liable to resort to drink or suicide in order to escape from some profound dilemma something the less gifted are often apt to do. Every Jew possesses in the history of his fathers and grandfathers a great fund of examples of the coldest self-possession and endurance in fearful situations, of the subtlest outwitting and exploitation of chance and misfortune; their courage beneath the cloak of miserable submission, their heroism in spernere se sperni, surpasses the virtues of all the saints. For two millennia an attempt was made to render them contemptible by treating them with contempt, and by barring to them the way to all honours and all that was honourable, and in exchange thrusting them all the deeper into the dirtier trades and it is true that they did not grow cleaner in the process. But contemptible? They themselves have never ceased to believe themselves called to the highest things, and the virtues which pertain to all who suffer have likewise never ceased to adorn them. The way in which they honour their fathers and their children, the rationality of their marriages and marriage customs, distinguish them among all Europeans. In addition to all this, they have known how to create for themselves a feeling of power and of eternal revenge out of the very occupations left to them (or to which they were left); one has to say in extenuation even of their usury that without this occasional pleasant and useful torturing of those who despised them it would have been difficult for them to have preserved their own self-respect for so long. For our respect for ourselves is tied to our being able to practise requital, in good things and bad. At the same time, however, their revenge does not easily go too far: for they all possess the liberality, including liberality of soul, to which frequent changes of residence, of climate, of the customs of one's neighbours and oppressors educates men; they possess by far the greatest experience of human society, and even in their passions they practise the caution taught by this experience. They are so sure in their intellectual suppleness and shrewdness that they never, even in the worst straits, need to earn their bread by physical labour, as common workmen, porters, agricultural slaves. Their demeanour still reveals that their souls have never known chivalrous noble sentiments nor their bodies handsome armour: a certain importunity mingles with an often charming but almost always painful submissiveness. But now, since they are unavoidably going to ally themselves with the best aristocracy of Europe more and more with every year that passes, they will soon have created for themselves a goodly inheritance of spiritual and bodily demeanour: so that a century hence they will appear sufficiently noble not to make those they dominate ashamed to have them as masters. And that is what matters! That is why it is still too soon for a settlement of their affairs! They themselves know best that a conquest of Europe, or any kind of act of violence, on their part is not to be thought of: but they also know that at some future time Europe may fall into their hands like a ripe fruit if they would only just extend them. To bring that about they need, in the meantime, to distinguish themselves in every domain of European distinction and to stand everywhere in the first rank: until they have reached the point at which they themselves determine what is distinguishing. Then they will be called the inventors and signposts of the nations of Europe and no longer offend their sensibilities. And whither shall this assembled abundance of grand impressions which for every Jewish family constitutes Jewish history, this abundance of passions, virtues, decisions, renunciations, struggles, victories of every kind whither shall it stream out if not at last into great men and great works! Then, when the Jews can exhibit as their work such jewels and golden vessels as the European nations of a briefer and less profound experience could not and cannot produce, when Israel will have transformed its eternal vengeance into an eternal blessing for Europe: then there will again arrive that seventh day on which the ancient Jewish God may rejoice in himself, his creation and his chosen people and let us all, all of us, rejoice with him!”
The other day I read a phrase about the News of these years: "Even when it's real, it's still fake."
Some people get angry at that phrase, they see as the ultimate stage of paranoia. Which is funny, as it denotes they haven't seen real paranoia just yet.
But I like that phrase, because of the embeded switch of the subject: what it's fake is everything they add upon the News, how much effort they put in linking all sorts of propaganda with real facts, as if the lies were less that way.
I made a connection when I read your phrase "the action is the reaction." Strange!
That's a truism!
Are you with the tautologists cult?
Did you notice the gaslighting?
Did you notice the endless comedy?
For example: I don't know whether there is anyone out there trying to get me, but, just in case, I make it public that when I go out for a walk, I may or may not bring with me several unicorns who shoot laser beams from their eyes. Or was it an AR-10 they are hiding in the horn? I forget.
(note: for those who don't know the lore of riffles, the AR-10 is the younger sister of the AR-15. The tradition here in Oklajoma is to gift an AR-15 to kids when they reach 15 or so, but only if they have been training with the AR-10 for at least 7 years.)
I’m sorry you’ve been so convinced that you are at the mercy of such a thing. People who did that are very very good at it. It isn’t true though. I just saw you are older and on SS. This is an incredibly cruel thing to do to a person. For what it’s worth, whether you choose to believe me or not, I’ve been authentic and not illogical with you here.
This is truly not the place for such discussion. It should not be a spectator sport. If I could have a wish or would be to meet and discuss face to face. You may not believe me, but it’s true. My relentlessness is because of how strong my personal (I don’t speak for her here only me) bond to Celia is.
We are strangers. She and I are not.
I do hope one day we can address this in a more human way - like I said. Easy come, easy go. This is worth untangling with better deference and kindness than it was inflicted upon human beings.
So with that in mind I’m sorry for any offense or pain or discomfort. I know there is a person behind this handle.
I hope one day we see the luxury of discourse without so much rage and fear on these topics. But it will take hard work. I only hope, Baruch haschem, the hardships stop growing. That’s been the truly satanic thing we’ve all been victims of. We all deserve better than that.
I hope that’s worth something in your arithmetic to determine my sincerity. Best I can think to do under the circumstances.
And who was it that created Hamas? My Dad is from Israel and I’m aware context you’re speaking about, but that is not the only context to consider.
I believe this is one of David Ickes best videos ever that provides context we all benefit from understanding.
https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=6522ba4814094f1a3d97b753
The supposed shadowy beginnings or machinations behind the scene are irrelevant to the fact that these people want all Jews dead and won’t stop till they are.
No.
Baruch haschem.
The people founding the Zionist state of Israel were Jews from Europe. They were not wanted in Palestine by the British, but did a bit of terror and assassinations (see Quigley , Tragedy and Hope) and succeeded in bringing in more and more. The Palestinians have also lived there for quite some time. Looking at the dwindling territory of the Palestinians over the decades makes me think hard about the right of European-origin Jews to take up so much space in Palestine. But I guess when one is a Jew, that skepricism doesn't come naturally.
The most brainwashed people are generally the ones accusing everyone else of being brainwashed, or stupid, or having their head up their arse, or whatever. You literally are ignoring the Hamas charter because you think Mossad encouraged its existence at some point. Let’s say that’s true. Does that negate Hamas’ responsibility for these war crimes ? Does that make what they just did acceptable? Are the Israelis to just shrug their shoulders and ignore the women and children who were taken? As for the deed to the Middle East land known as Israel, you can find that in the Old Testament, where the Creator spoke.
I'm happy to fill you in on what you're missing: You cannot see that your opinion is just that - an opinion. You therefore think it's acceptable to act like an ass toward anyone who disagrees with you. And here in this little echo chamber that is Celia's substack, there are plenty of you, including as I have discovered, people much more advanced in ass-behavior than you, people who deny the holocaust, and people who tell me in detail how they'd like to kill me, for disagreeing with them. But mostly, you all are pretty poor argument-makers, since you seem to default ever so quickly to the incredibly juvenile - "you're stupid!" Good lord. Anyway, you cannot prove much of what you're opining. As to whether you wrote something that gave me the idea that the perps should be let go - why yes you did give me that idea, of course, because that is exactly what the Israelis are trying to do - get those perps. And you don't like that. Your other comments are somewhat strange - I think you just said that the IDF's goal is to kill all the people of Israel, which doesn't make sense, but then again you weren't writing very understandably. As to the Bible, there is a pretty clear chain of custody for that document - an abundance of historical and scholarly evidence that manuscripts are intact as to meaning. And yes, the Creator God made a covenant with the Jews, in His sovereign wisdom. Israel is theirs and was rightly restored to them in 1948. Now, there is nothing in there about the world's largest outdoor prison but then again - it really wasn't a prison until last week now was it?
Are you simply unable to disagree with someone without every other sentence being to tell them they're stupid, evil, or a fool? I have labored to not give back insult for insult, but nevertheless much of your writing is still just that - juvenile, "you're dumb." Hmmm all right. When you say "you have been in perpetual war with people there since 1948" - who's "you"? I am not Israel. But in case that's what you meant (you really weren't very clear), if one little country is surrounded by people attacking it, there are going to be a lot of wars, which you say is somehow Israel's fault - but the example you offered was a supposed conflict with the U.S., which has never been to war with Israel. So again - not real clear, not real logical, not real persuasive. As to the Bible, there is more scholarly proof of its legitimacy as an ancient document that any other ancient writings that nobody questions. The chain of custody, as you called it, is solid. But of course the problem isn't the Bible, it's people who don't want to submit to the Creator God whose story is depicted throughout. But did I understand you to say that bad powerful people wrote the Bible? Because that's a pretty wild and entirely unfounded charge. I do have faith in God, and know that His word is true. Do you not see the irony that you said "you have this faith in things that you can't prove"? Because, can you prove God is not the Creator? Can you prove the Bible is not true? You might want to consider your own "faith" and how it cannot be proven. As for the covenant - that is not an opinion, it is a fact, recorded in that very book, and attested to by a great deal of related historical evidence. Now, how Israel came to be reinstated as a nation in that land 70 or so years ago was not a direct command of God from the Bible, so if you don't like any part of that you can't blame Him. However, I've found that a lot of people are misled when it comes to their perception of that time period, probably because they're only reading one perspective. Humans never do anything perfectly now do we? Anyway. That God, the God of the Bible, the God of the Jews, chose a people to represent Him, and to serve as a conduit by which He would send the Savior to offer reconciliation with Him to everyone. And you do want a relationship with that God. If you reject Him, then you are the one who doesn't know the difference between Him and Satan. I certainly do. And that's why I grieve for the Palestinians who suffer under their regime, who have and will die in this mess, because all loss of human life is tragic. Every terrorist who dies, even in the midst of trying to kill someone else, is in many ways just as tragic a loss as the terrorist's victim, because it represents a precious human life, wasted. As for Israel however, they believe this is an existential threat, and they have good reason to believe that. This conflict will not end well for anyone, most likely.
So you have no rational argument, merely insults. Got it.
Well, I guess that's better than your previous juvenile insults, but your argument is still lacking, as it appears to have been mounted against things I never said, but apparently live in your brain. Sorry, you'll have to try harder.
See my response. Your discussion style is very off-putting, with the constant assumption that everyone who doesn't agree with you is "dishonest" or "programmed" or a "fool." Please shine that light back on yourself. You just might find some chinks in your paper armor.
Have you been to Israel? It’s full of Arab citizens, they serve in the Knesset, the IDF, etc. I guess Jews are really bad at both genocide AND apartheid.
Didn’t 80% of them vote for Hamas? Don’t believe everything you read (or watch)
You know, here in Spain there are some people who live under the intense gaze of terrorist organizations. They live in small towns, and if they don't vote as they are "invited" to vote, things will happen to them.
I guess voting your mind is not a choice?
Absolutely possible. Also not at all clear that’s the case here.
I agree.
Exactly. So not the same thing, no? And there were a lot of Palestinians celebrating in the streets of Gaza immediately after the first killings so… why do you assume they don’t want the government they have? Seems like you could be dead wrong on that.
Is it naive, or realistic? The barbarous activity that unfolded a week ago isn’t AI. What would be shocking about a culture willing to kidnap babies also being willing to celebrate slaughter? Seems more likely than not, actually. Have you been to Israel? Because I find the most “low information voters” are the ones who’ve never seen anything with their own eyes.
Woke law of projection. It works 💯 % 100% of the time. Calling someone else stupid is a dead give away to an other theological capture.
Purpose and logic are not the same thing. Your conflation of them and spinning Purpose into truth is no longer a mystery to me when anyone does it. Shame so much wisdom is being squandered. But then again- people do love dead Jews. Nearly as much as they love killers.
Spare me.
Raconter des salades.
Empires? Ottomans? Are you drunk?
Typique. Vous assumez l’empire pour toutes choses. Rien à voir avec ce que j'ai dit. Rien n'a changé depuis 1967. Les poufs ? La haine des empires vous a rendu stupide pendant que vous fermez les yeux sur la guerre contre la mémoire. La révolution a pris fin au moment où vous avez sacrifié votre culture et méprisé la liberté.
I don’t understand the Francophile suicidal insistence these last 30 years - your scorn for reality is no replacement for your scorn for Brutalism. You’ve mixed the two up at the alter of never ending revolutionary je ne sai pas - which is a cheap trade. Without chauvinism French socialism is simply suicide by the new empires.
I’ve no patience for it.
The French are better than this. Présumé intelligent is no replacement for intellect or questions. It just sounds petty.
Il n’y a pas plus sourd que celui qui ne veut pas entendre.
I’m really not interested, kid.
Excellent history lesson Cecilia. Seems the “contradictory” episode in Palestine history plays a role in today’s conflict in Gaza.
The British Empire sold out indigenous peoples? No way. NO WAY :)
YES WAY!
Amazing how we forgot allllll about the Ottomans.
Incredible how that works.
Don’t any of you dare try to emulate Hungarians and think their Christianity is this. It’s not.
You are so far from their sense of national pride you may as well be in Seattle.
I don't understand the insult, so I'm gonna laugh and enjoy your energy.
My response to the ironic comment by "Melvyn Punymeyer" was inspired by a memory of watching "South Park," a tv show that is a major contributing factor of my permanent brain damage.
I like Hungarians, by the way. They invented spicy peppers. Until then, the pepper was a humble and sweet botanical plant. Hungarians are good in my book.
Especially Viktor Orban and his Hungarian supporters.
Here's some more evidence for you @Celia Farber. Looks like photoshopped 'atrocities' are still in propaganda vogue.
https://etscinemapsychomasonica.substack.com/p/israeli-fake-photoshopped-charred
Here's some more fake news:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jPpBr3zoQyX6/
Your failure to either know or share context of Rabbi Shapiro’s position is akin to saying that a Messianic Rabbi is proof that Jews have tried to say that Christ is the messiah.
Remember how often people would say something in MSM and if it was what someone wished to hear they would see it as a “trusted source?”
Tell me, why now are so many in lockstep with MSM when just moments ago they’re were aware something was not right. Or that something was trying to destroy us. Or that woke was a threat?
Yet now- we see people with good sense minutes ago simply nodding with agreement with the mainstream.
And our cries are ignored. People who moments ago stood beside us fighting for freedom are now pointing and blaming as if life is ever that simple?
My grief at how this has so effectively happened - how Jews are used once again as swords and shields and people who I never imagined - mostly in media - are being so foolish it’s mind bending.
Then I realize how this has happened before. And i don’t mean what most of you think and yes I’m being intentionally vague because at this moment and on this platform....it would be irresponsible of me not to be.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant they say yes?
Well - not everything we think is an infection is, or is a threat.
Once again, the disease model has been released upon the earth and once again- those you never imagined could be blind to it are.
On a very real level I do know this- as pained as I am, I’m not the target. We are not the target.
You are.
For heaven’s sake listen.
And those who taught everyone in western media this method of horrific mass conversion- which is what this both simplified and too simply put is - my their names be forgotten.
The rule is to not quibble after a new moon. You have to wait at least four days. I'm so let down.
I just got the joke. My humor dar has been banged up. I’m sorry. Mia Culpa.
It's fine.
You think you can speak of redundancy by quoting the English dictionary?
You are woke.
Only the woke are so stupid about language.
Bravo. You’re behaving like a convert away from Christianity. Good thing my mother is Hungarian. We don’t coddle you when you do this.
I don’t need your gratitude. I love Celia. That’s the only reason I’m bothering with your sophomoric and childish adjudication.
You’re lucky. Very few people survived to remember and want to not let you or anyone let your ignorance justify your thinking those who have turned you into useful idiots.
Justify your THANKING not thinking. You’re not thinking.
We clearly don’t share the same rules. You will never speak for my covenant with the lunar calendar and your attempt to, is why I say - you are a fool. Who’s rules are you claiming? And how dare you speak for them NOW?
Get your priorities straight. How insane to say such a thing or imply such a thing or claim this is QUIBBLING. Your contempt is more revolting than hatred. I feel sorry for you.
I’m a Jew. You have been brainwashed to believe the stupidity of socialism - and believe that somehow our conversion from Jews to the religion of the liberation theology is complete.
You’re a fool.
But you are not my enemy. So...what I mean when I say may their names be forgotten is not any if your business.
Why are the vast majority of Jews Leftists? What is it about their culture that would be so amenable to growing Leftism?
She is in pain over the horrors of these past days.
Don't do this, please. It's not good for you or anyone else.
I recommend this post: https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/the-characteristics-of-witchcraft
That's to understand what's happening.
Now, what I ask you to not do is, to be more clear, to not engage with this particular person in an exchange of insults. A good argument for that is in that post I just linked to.
First, Ooana is an artist. Artists are almost always difficult to follow.
Second, I think Rabbi Shapiro is one who says that there is a divine decree of exile, that Jews must not have their own land, their own state. Most religious Jews, of any variant, disagree.
I think it's time we all recognize that zionists are not really religious but mostly secular, and only use religion when it suits them, and most religious Jews are not real zionists even if they have a political alliance with that political ideology.
Then, there are also secular Jews who are no zionists at all, and who despise all religion.
All these three kinds of people clearly disagree with the doctrine of divinely decreed exile, and think it's good that Jews have their own State. And they disagree on everything else.
In my opinion, the zionist ideology is essentially violent, and belongs originally to an epoch were political violence was a rising value. Let me name-drop Georges Sorel here, who was part of a trend, and not a maverick.
Religious leaders don't want freedom. They want strict social control. Most Atheists also want social control and hate freedom. Freedom is always the enemy. That's why we are constantly bombarded with messages telling us we are helpless, useless, victims, we need revenge, there is no future, hope is evil, faith is irrational, etc.
Politically, it is convenient that people are always in fear of the God-State. Humanity has been under the yoke of the religion of politics for at least 400 years, since Hobbes, and violence and destruction have only increased, not decreased. So the idea that it was the false beliefs of religious what were responsible for violence in antiquity seems to have been disproven. Humans are violent, regardless what they believe.
Religion and politics are frienemies.
I don't know why there is so much effort in trying to prove that political freedom is bad. Most people naturally avoid political freedom. They really don't need to be forcibly treated for the mental illness of desiring political freedom with so much propaganda. And those of us who want political freedom don't buy the propaganda. It's absurd. Maybe it's not absurd. People in politics can turn stones into gold.
In case you've missed it, watch here a pretty good documentary about this enormous topic: https://pelerine.substack.com/p/what-is-anti-semitism-today
What would you say to the argument that socialist Zionism is indeed as you say? Have you read or heard of this? This Is My God https://a.co/d/epjeMd2
The final chapters inspired my thoughts on the subject. Much like so many ideas of the last century, and much like the ultimate goal of total conversion, socialism uses idealisms for its own ends and if we are not vigilant, destroys it.
I’m far from certain that the institution of Zionism is Zionism anymore than queer theory is gay history or cultural Marxism is civil rights or Transhumanism is Humane.
I haven't heard about that book. Socialism corrupts everything, so to make things right one has to look back before the corruption. I accept that maybe the blanket term Zionism is unfair to be equated to those bastards who have been provoking political chaos everywhere. Maybe there are zionists who are not interested in creating wars. I don't know enough. But individual people are always more valuable than institutions and ideas, in my opinion.
War is bad, M'kay? If there is a war anywhere, it should end. That sounds reasonable to me. People of any country should not have to see their lives destroyed by the greed of the weapons dealers. Which is related to the global covid democide: the greed of those damned racists to have the world only for themselves seems now to be the cause behind the plandemonium.
You say your difficulty to follow me is my failure.
I say- I wasn’t talking TO you. I’m speaking about you. That’s fine.
In internet jargon I am what is derisively known as a midwit, which is above average IQ but not smart enough. Over the years and in many sites, commenters have argued that midwits are the people who suffer the most on the internet: they get attacked equally by the dummies and the really smart people. So, dummies understand their place in the world, smarties more or less understand that too, and midwits are always doubting and seeking their role in the great theater that is the world. Sometimes, they fall into solipsism, to everyone's relief.
I apologize for offending you, that wasn't my intention.
Once again, apologies. I recoil at anon accounts these days. My mistake. I think and hope we made use of my error though. I hope.
No prob.
An anon account posted a good tweet recently on Bret Weinstein's account:
"Makes a lot of sense to be anonymous
At times like this
Couching everything one writes in a never ending disclaimer, and exclusion and exception clause
Must be tiresome
It is only the anonymous who can write the truth in times like these."
I watched his teaching a few days ago and was aghast that he mislabels the situation for Jews and Creator’s relationship to us as one as exiles or somehow a singular class with a singular perspective on things such as warrior and sport and how we view such things and what we do and do not revere (nothing of course replaces God.) His position while seemingly based on a wisdom - is so counter to what has kept our wisdom alive this long.
I see a man, who isn’t self hating. Not at all. I see one who has become victim of his own remedy. Much like those who believed and rejected therapeutics for the last three years.
Notice his archaic mention of Bruce Lee? Oy vey.
I think I see why such things have happened...and I wish we weren’t being poised and posed in such an opposition.
Fear is the mind killer.
I can’t imagine why this is what he called Torah Jews anymore than some other teacher calls the modern reboot ofOrthodox Christianity” second temple Christianity.
The wounds of Russian Orthodoxy wielded by ungodly men and women runs so deep that we nearly forget our own “family” history sometime.
God didn’t exile those who formed spiritual Zionism anymore than god exiled those who decided to please him by rejecting socialist Zionism.
Liberation theology and the wounds of Stalin - and his nightmare made reality are very very very deep and never discussed.
Here’s an example. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disposable-jews/id1582119175?i=1000536456468
Sadly politics often maintains a better record than anyone else - particularly after trauma and death. Who’s
left is a question rarely asked...ever. When artists are murdered the art of polemics and activists often sweep in and use such moments in history as artifice.
But that doesn’t mean some of us don’t remember. Artists both usher in and defeat totalitarian creep.
Much respect to Andrew Breitbart but culture isn’t upstream or downstream from politics. Art IS the stream, politics are embankments.
It’s vital for all of us who tap into that stream, no matter what politics might save the memory from drowning into oblivion, to remember the lesson (both in its inspiration and it’s amalgamated wisdom) “we will outlive them.”
Whoa, I agree so so much with all that.
In Joan Peters' book "From Time Immemorial" (1984), she argues (and seems to present reliable evidence) that Zionism in fact was a dream of Jews for centuries during which most of them languished under Islamic oppression in various parts of the Islamic empire (some of them figuring out Kapo-ish ways to get along with their Muslim Masters) -- i.e., that it was NOT merely some 19th century idea with no historical roots.
Wikipedia:
"In From Time Immemorial (1984), she argued that Palestinians are largely not indigenous to modern Israel and therefore have no claim to its territory.[6] The book, a best-seller, became controversial. Scholars and writers such as Norman Finkelstein,[7] Noam Chomsky,[8] Edward Said[9] Yehoshua Porath.[10] and Ian and David Gilmour criticized it.[11]"
Notice how her pro-Israel anti-Palestinian book has been attacked by... Jews LOL. I think Joan Peters herself was Jewish, since the same Wikipedia entry lists it under these Categories: "1938 births / 2015 deaths / American non-fiction writers / Writers on the Middle East / Journalists from Chicago / Jewish American writers / Jewish women writers".
An interesting coda as well:
"Peters died at her home in Chicago in 2015 of a cerebral embolism.[2][12] Shortly before her death, the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, Ron Prosor, telephoned to convey to her that Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was deeply grateful for her work.[1] "
yeah I know, but the other guys are Jews, and there are plenty of other Jews not listed there who are that Leftist
I'm splainin' for myself, I have no idea of what her exact ideas are.
You are probably right that this was not the best place to post that. It's more about my interpretation of this conundrum than explaining anything with laser precision.
I don't care to come off as rude, beacuse I have a very cute face IRL and I'm basically a giant hairball so it's a good contrast that my voice sounds rude. It makes me more real and less of an agent.
Which Artist? The one formerly known as Prince?
Your desperation to know something is not a worry I have right now. I’ve bigger ones.
Thanks for the primer. The Protocols are the companion document to the Balfour Decleration.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/S7Sl49PehCUx/ via BitChute
And a companion for the Vanguards of the Prolitariat.
Socialist Realism 101.
So who are all of these people who believe in genocide in these comments? Are they paid shills, or doing the globalists work for free?
I highly recommend you read Hannah Ardent’s work “The Origins of Totalitarianism” and Merloo’s “Rape of the Mind.”
I’m not only opposed to genocide of course. I’m even MORE opposed to what’s far worse and far more common. Democide.
And the game being played here by a dangerous relation masquerading as a politic or economic system or philosophy (it’s none of these) is one to assure no one sees democide when they can cry genocide.
Democide is what brought us together here. A fight against it.
I hope you read Ardent. She might help you see clearly what’s actually happening and why the confusion is a sign of hope rather than utter defeat. This discomfort means that something else must exist somewhere. Once that discomfort vanishes - and lies vs truth are totally indistinguishable .... that’s... may we never know that again. https://www.loc.gov/collections/hannah-arendt-papers/articles-and-essays/totalitarianism-the-inversion-of-politics/
Her book and her writings s I think will really be helpful.
Btw - fellow Jews and others just labeled her “victim blaming.” She also coined the term “banality of evil.” An evil we are all familiar with since 2020.
I agree.
I've been talking about democide since 2020. I lost friends because of my words. People really hate to hear the truth that communism is evil.
PS I lost friends then. Never imagined I’d feel the same loss now or threat of it. It’s been - if I’m in a good movement id say 2020 trained me. If I’m feeling less confident - I cry out. Because these days have been harder than I can express adequately with words.
Everyone has taken some harm. People have changed a lot, in a few ways. It's good to talk, even if it's online.
I’m stumbling a bit on this UX to reply properly. I’d like to speak more if you would. Celia has my contact info or my DMs are open on twitter. Also my substack may be a way. I’d very much like to discuss more without the pressure of spectators and my feelings or protectiveness for the Author. Also this is her space, don’t want to hijack. About to be behind the wheel for 15 or so. Will come back and see if you’ve found a way to get a pigeon to me. 🌱
I will subscribe to your substack and we can talk there.
Hannah Arendt (sic) -- lol! Make up a story and then psychoanalyze it!
Most 'intellectuals' don't feel the need to look into details, but the holocaust, had it actually happened, was in *no way* 'banal'. It would have been one of the most excruciatingly horrific experience for the*perpetrators*. The fact that Arendt could make a career out of analyzing something that she obviously hadn't researched in any way, shape or form is... well, an indictment on the university system.
Of course, anyone that's been following Covid understands that the university system has been dead for *decades*.
Oh, and covid *was* banal, in the sense of Arendt... and, curiously, many of its proponents had a certain say, genetic background. Projection?
ShiYen
And now dare you turn COVID into some Jewish plot? That’s madness and so stupid it barely can even be addressed.
If anything - the blame should therefore be placed squarely on YOU for ignoring Israeli warnings that were coming from the start. But your hatred and contempt and stupidity made you not hear or fight for them to be heard and now here we are.
Well done. Banality of evil indeed. How much blood has to be on your hands before you realize you can’t wash it off?
This an abhorrent thing to say and frankly - I’m glad you did. Because I’ve had rose colored glasses when it comes to the evil of identitarians like you.
YOU are a deceptive sadist with a fetish for genetics. Sounds a bit like the character of those whose policies we were attacked with now doesn’t it?
Good. I know exactly what you are. You eugenics obsessed weasel.
Ooana: Covid was a plot of the 'oligarchs'. Some are jewish, some aren't. It really doesn't matter, since they all seem to be trying to do the same thing.
I don't really understand your 2nd paragraph. Alex Berenson was instrumental in keeping the Covid statistics honest, and when he lost the plot, Igor Chudov and 'Amidwesterndoctor' took up the mantle. All three are jewish, as is Celia, and I appreciate all of them. Also, Nobel winner Michael Levitt ran the numbers on China quite convincingly.
ShiYen
Wtf are you talking about? Have you read a word of her writing? My god, wtf is this? What I’ve suggested is to help save our collective asses - that’s why she wrote it and said it. You sound just like those who worship a golden calf and said the same thing to her, not understanding her point and shunning her for pointing to reality. You’d rather suffer and die and lose to monsters than assess that evil doesn’t twirl a Moustache or look like you’d expect. It’s BANAL. And we ALL risk being part of it if and when we deny this fact.
This response of yours included.
Ooana: you seem to have missed the point. Arendt is largely talking about the evils of the NatSoc regime. Since the holocaust didn't happen (the engineering -- as related to us by *jewish* 'eyewitnesses' -- is laughably impossible), it's difficult to consider the NatSocs 'evil'.
Would they have become evil had they won the war... who knows?
ShiYen
You’ve clearly not read her work. She was talking about the banality of evil - evil isn’t banal. Think and learn before you speak.
Ooana: Arendt was talking about how evil can emerge from hum-drum people filling in boxes on forms, unaware that they're part of an over-arching evil regime... much like the individual doctors pushing vaccines are simply doing their job -- but the sum-total of their actions is evil.
A good example of this is my country, Cambodia, where, after the civil war, the Pol Pot regime implemented disastrous agricultural and social policies that lead to the death of hundreds of thousands. This fits the bill of 'banality of evil'. But imagine that his policies had worked! Then Arendt could have published 'the banality of Good'!
The crux of the matter is that NatSocs are considered 'evil' because of the holocaust -- which, since it didn't happen, isn't much of an argument. They also flirted with Euthanasia, until the Catholic Church forced them to stop; and they wanted the jews to leave the country. I suspect that you'd be too emotional to consider that this latter point makes a ton of sense. The world is waking up to the fact that multi-culti (or tikkun olam, if you want) is an abomination.
As an aside: Anyone reading Celia's blog both thinks and learns quite regularly.
ShiYen
Dangerous religion not relation. Heh. Paging Freud.
I’d hope no one believes in such a thing. Why do you think people do? Do you think the world is full of that much evil? If so - that’s only because it’s a great way for you to lose site of the bastards who have always used it as a means to an end.
I’m sorry but what does this mean? Is this referring to Jews that say anything against the Israeli atrocities or the Netanyahu government?
“I’m not sure if all of them are considered “self-hating Jews,” but I think this cheap shot will soon be one that backfires.)”.
https://rumble.com/v3ouec8-yes-they-actually-created-and-funded-their-enemy.html
In this video, comedian Jimmy Dore reads tweets by Spike Cohen arguing, with receipts, that Israel created and funded the monster known as Hamas.
In 05:55 Jimmy does a joke about calling people a "self-hating Jew."
I think the trend is changing. There may be a political change soon.
You must be so insecure. You can’t even answer his question. You just throw more media mafia bullshit at the people already picked apart and picked off for decades.
If RFK wins you know what will be the most amazing moment? The moment he snaps the modernization of smith Mundt like a twig and sends this insanity scurrying.
Liberation theology poisoned the DNC and your desperation to blame the Jews for this is about as clear as the noon day sun.
You must be terrified, you anon hack.
I think you are answering the wrong comment.
The tragedy of these days is, in my opinion, caused by evil politicians like Netanyahu.
I didn't know that Jimmy Dore was part of the media mafia. Although it is possible because he is supporting Dr. McCullough, who says some weird globalist things from time to time.
So, your argument is that this story about the Government of Israel creating the Golem that is Hamas is false? That's interesting. Tell me more, please. I don't owe allegiance to Spike Cohen, and libertarians are often wrong on many things, so, I'm not sure.
Like covid, 911, Rt 91, Maui, none of it passes the smell test.