Gregorian chants, maybe especially in Latin, can bring forth demons in people. BUT--It's not the person, it's the demons in them, that react in anger. I'm quite serious. If somebody gets FURIOUS in the presence of this music, they may harbor demons that have not yet been expelled. Which is actually most of us. How exactly to get rid of them is more complex than some evangelicals like to pretend which frustrates me.
The harmony of virtually all the music we hear, whether Chopin or Elvis, is rooted in chants sung by medieval Christian monks. The earliest examples of these chants would hardly be regarded as music by today's standards. They consisted of a single melodic line wavering up and down by a half-step or two, without dramatic leaps, with nearly every note held long, and with no beat but for the natural rhythm of spoken language. Early chant was really nothing more than adorned prayer in which certain vowel sounds were accorded fixed pitch. It was words rather than tones that mattered most to its singers.
In time, vocal range expanded toward high notes and low notes that not all singers could manage. And so chants were separated into two or more vocal lines-parts- that were identical in every way but for being separated by several steps. Parts were usually divided by half an octave to form intervals considered most consonant and perfect.
This way of singing prayers, called organum, continued for hundreds of years. But starting in the eleventh century, the individual parts of organum began to go separate ways. The upper part was often made more complex than the others, taking on more embellishments. And lower parts began to follow their own melodic line, sometimes moving in contrary directions to the treble. Still, all voices remained synchronized upon the same words. It was not until the thirteenth century that the most crucial development took place. Particularly at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, a group of church composers wrote music in which voices shifted out of sync and moved independently across time for long stretches, though alternately falling back into unison in the older style.
To medieval ears this new music sounded revolutionary, and rightly so. Chant had become multimelodic –polyphonic– with several independent lines sung simultaneously. Sometimes these lines were identical but were sung several beats apart. The resulting form, called a canon, is familiar to every schoolchild who has ever sung "Frère Jacques" in rounds. But the ultimate destiny of polyphony was to allow each voice complete freedom of movement. Diverse combinations of sounds would inevitably result.
Although early polyphony provided the basis for today's harmonic system, it cannot be said that composers yet thought harmonically. They continued to approach music as melody. Their concern was to avoid the disharmonies that spring up at every turn when voices are overlaid. As there was little useful theory to guide them in this task, they proceeded by trial and error. Progress was slow, partly owing to periodic attacks from the church, which complained that polyphony made the prayers sung in chants unintelligible, and worse, that it threatened to incite church congregations to emotionalism and pleasure [...]
Very interesting, especially about Notte Dame. The best chants available now are from the Abbey in Solemense (sp?) France. They have a lot of CDs. You can memorize all the Latin prayers just by listening to them and reading the liner notes.
The monks of Valaam,chanting in church Slavonic.Qued up to one rendition of the 104th Psalm---"Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain":
I direct a children’s choir at a Catholic School and can attest to the power of Latin to heal their weary young traumatized souls. Some of the kids react exclaiming it sounds like a Harry Potter spell but I correct them and say that art imitates life and Rowlings was inspired by the very real magic of our faith. Harry Patre? If the Gregorian chant doesn’t succor in raising your spirits then maybe try Rev. James Cleveland’s “Peace Be Still”…
“For me, prayer is an aspiration of the Heart, it is a simple glance directed to Heaven, it is a cry of gratitude and love in the midst of trial as well as joy; finally it is something great, supernatural, which expands my Soul and unites me to Jesus.”
Published by, Priests of the Sacred Heart @ Sacred Heart Monastery.
Yes! This is exactly what my soul needed today!! Celia, I agree with your recent posts so much! Just didn’t comment. Please keep writing the truth for all of us ….and thank you for speaking up and putting it out there. You have the gift of communication. Praying for you!! Thank you !!
Gregorian chants, maybe especially in Latin, can bring forth demons in people. BUT--It's not the person, it's the demons in them, that react in anger. I'm quite serious. If somebody gets FURIOUS in the presence of this music, they may harbor demons that have not yet been expelled. Which is actually most of us. How exactly to get rid of them is more complex than some evangelicals like to pretend which frustrates me.
Bans are generally 24 hrs.
It drives the demons out. Demons can't stand Gregorian Chant.
Or Blessed Virgin Mary. Demons hate the Hail Mary prayer.
Excerpt from:
Music, The Brain and Ecstasy (1997)
by Robert Jourdain
pages 93-94
[...]
The harmony of virtually all the music we hear, whether Chopin or Elvis, is rooted in chants sung by medieval Christian monks. The earliest examples of these chants would hardly be regarded as music by today's standards. They consisted of a single melodic line wavering up and down by a half-step or two, without dramatic leaps, with nearly every note held long, and with no beat but for the natural rhythm of spoken language. Early chant was really nothing more than adorned prayer in which certain vowel sounds were accorded fixed pitch. It was words rather than tones that mattered most to its singers.
In time, vocal range expanded toward high notes and low notes that not all singers could manage. And so chants were separated into two or more vocal lines-parts- that were identical in every way but for being separated by several steps. Parts were usually divided by half an octave to form intervals considered most consonant and perfect.
This way of singing prayers, called organum, continued for hundreds of years. But starting in the eleventh century, the individual parts of organum began to go separate ways. The upper part was often made more complex than the others, taking on more embellishments. And lower parts began to follow their own melodic line, sometimes moving in contrary directions to the treble. Still, all voices remained synchronized upon the same words. It was not until the thirteenth century that the most crucial development took place. Particularly at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, a group of church composers wrote music in which voices shifted out of sync and moved independently across time for long stretches, though alternately falling back into unison in the older style.
To medieval ears this new music sounded revolutionary, and rightly so. Chant had become multimelodic –polyphonic– with several independent lines sung simultaneously. Sometimes these lines were identical but were sung several beats apart. The resulting form, called a canon, is familiar to every schoolchild who has ever sung "Frère Jacques" in rounds. But the ultimate destiny of polyphony was to allow each voice complete freedom of movement. Diverse combinations of sounds would inevitably result.
Although early polyphony provided the basis for today's harmonic system, it cannot be said that composers yet thought harmonically. They continued to approach music as melody. Their concern was to avoid the disharmonies that spring up at every turn when voices are overlaid. As there was little useful theory to guide them in this task, they proceeded by trial and error. Progress was slow, partly owing to periodic attacks from the church, which complained that polyphony made the prayers sung in chants unintelligible, and worse, that it threatened to incite church congregations to emotionalism and pleasure [...]
Very interesting, especially about Notte Dame. The best chants available now are from the Abbey in Solemense (sp?) France. They have a lot of CDs. You can memorize all the Latin prayers just by listening to them and reading the liner notes.
The monks of Valaam,chanting in church Slavonic.Qued up to one rendition of the 104th Psalm---"Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain":
https://youtu.be/qMtyTXDc9Fw?t=1515
It may not be Latin or a chant,but I think Rachmaninoff was approaching the Divine here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfDreatXYeU
Here is the "Our Father" in Aramaic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=locW-9S00VU
Strawberry—I did not delete all your comments. I banned you for 24 hrs and that command also deleted your comments.
Thank you for nudging me towards Gregorian chant today, and quietly providing courage.
I direct a children’s choir at a Catholic School and can attest to the power of Latin to heal their weary young traumatized souls. Some of the kids react exclaiming it sounds like a Harry Potter spell but I correct them and say that art imitates life and Rowlings was inspired by the very real magic of our faith. Harry Patre? If the Gregorian chant doesn’t succor in raising your spirits then maybe try Rev. James Cleveland’s “Peace Be Still”…
1 ¶ He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High
Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the LORD, “He is my refuge and my fortress;
My God, in Him I will trust.”
3 Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowlerfn
And from the perilous pestilence.
4 He shall cover you with His feathers,
And under His wings you shall take refuge;
His truth shall be your shield and buckler.
5 You shall not be afraid of the terror by night,
Nor of the arrow that flies by day,
6 Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness,
Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
8 Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because you have made the LORD, who is my refuge,
Even the Most High, your dwelling place,
10 No evil shall befall you,
Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;
11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you in all your ways.
12 In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.
13 You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra,
The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot.
14 “Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him;
I will set him on high, because he has known My name.
15 He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble;
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him,
And show him My salvation.”
Thank you, Celia!
Even Satan, when he was tempting Jesus, recognized the divine inspiration of this particular psalm.
Saint Therese of Lisieux:
“For me, prayer is an aspiration of the Heart, it is a simple glance directed to Heaven, it is a cry of gratitude and love in the midst of trial as well as joy; finally it is something great, supernatural, which expands my Soul and unites me to Jesus.”
Published by, Priests of the Sacred Heart @ Sacred Heart Monastery.
P.O. Box 900, Hales Corners, WI 53130-0900.
1-800-448-7674 poshusa.org.
Beautiful. Thank you.
FYI, they are currently touring in North America.
https://harpadei.com/en/upcoming-events/
Yay! Thank you!
Yes! This is exactly what my soul needed today!! Celia, I agree with your recent posts so much! Just didn’t comment. Please keep writing the truth for all of us ….and thank you for speaking up and putting it out there. You have the gift of communication. Praying for you!! Thank you !!
so gorgeous, thanks. psalm 91:
10No harm will befall you, nor will a plague draw near to your tent.
11For He will command His angels on your behalf to guard you in all your ways.
12On their hands they will bear you, lest your foot stumble on a stone.
13On a young lion and a cobra you will tread; you will trample the young lion and the serpent.
and we know what the serpent represents!
Made my morning bright!
That was so incredibly beautiful. Thank you ❤️🙏🏼
AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FogXicLNJ-Y --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukLXoRayvXw
love the hymn. said it for twenty one days during covid. not a fan of jesus standing on feminine symbols.
Beautiful 🙏❤️🙏
This is magnificent. 🙏❤
It's beautiful
Good vs evil
Yes I am
Eff off