What an engaging and thought provoking film! I watched about half so far. I find it highly ironic that the high school teacher in Russia is examining in depth with his students the failures of confiscation of property and the mass murder sod displaced people. I’m not sure that is taught in the US public schools anymore. These people are so genuine and human-- and to be introduced to folk who live in one place and one community with friends from childhood. A fascinating look at lives that seem so parallel with my own in so many ways. Thank you Ceila!
Thank you, Ms. Farber. This is the most genuine depiction of Russia and the Russian people I've come across since Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. (And Tolstoy was an elitist.) Perhaps Hedrick Smith's book on Russian society way back during the Cold War comes close but this is really good.https://www.amazon.com/Russians-Hedrick-Smith/dp/0812905210
On YouTube, with captions makes it accessible, the subject matter makes it better than the drivel on the Boob Tube, perfect.
I am not much for movies generally, but the insights provided by this peek at Russian Life makes it possible to watch without feeling like I am wasting time.
The turtles w nothing to climb on really is the point. Re: frogs & boiling water: Do something about it when something smells funny. Even if it’s not on your job description, it’s your job.
If you’re not sure what to do about it, have an honest conversation with the other boiling frogs in the pot. It’s your job.
Get involved in elections. The song, 81 million votes my ass, resonates for a reason.
I will watch this and I'm very glad to start watching with the feeling that it's genuine rather than some kind of propaganda where so often that isn't the feeling I start with. One thing I still like to look at are films on the moon landings ... because they're the one thing - despite their seeming improbability - that I know were real and they were a truly awesome achievement. I highly recommend the series, Moon Machines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nLpMBpyw8I&list=PLZxCEYczpR2To4HoKnr7R8wfHUmcKP6bU&index=10.
It absolutely disgusts me that people such as "Bill Kaysing", the first person to come out and say astronauts didn't land on the moon, was an agent whose purpose was to encourage those who tend to disbelieve the authorities to disbelieve the moon landings in order to undermine them Boy Who Cried Wolf style when they called out all the real lies ... just about everything else.
Conspiracy Sarah is a Substack I highly recommend. She specialises in Predictive Programming and these posts on films that fit that phenomenon are mind-blowing.
Celia, off topic. I know you're a cat lover, as I am. I just adopted a 10 wk old adorable female kitten. I'm looking for a holistic vet near NW Connecticut. We have a good vet for our cats and dogs, as far as being a veteran Dr and surgeon, but he's too vaccine-happy and RX-minded for my taste. I'm looking for someone who's more on a natural path. Any recommendations, anyone?
Thanks for this wonderful movie, Celia. Watched this today. Marvelous. That turtle who didn't have an island or a log to rest on when he came up for air-- perhaps they didn't notice as he parallels them--beautiful and tired parents/workers with no time, So much to reflect on here, a reprieve from a lot of film drivel. The language sounds so beautiful, doesn't it?..(.and two bottles of vodka per month per worker, there is a human warmth beneath that control bribe :) ). It seems every country is still trying to recreate the Garden of Eden. How can we ever accept the Fall of Man when the memory of Summer wafts through our waking dreams?
Rumble does NOT allow me to access ANYTHING and people who share your normal hearing tunnel vision don't even try to post on YouTube, this Rumble is a detriment to my access generally, even beyond their own useless to me and millions of others site
I think it's powered by ignorance. I think people really don't believe millions who spent their lives in factories and other noisy occupations are locked out of anything uncaptioned.
I also think people having warm feelings toward Rumble is silly.
They have their own private YouTube with a built in heavy traffic draw.
If they were about informing people instead if turning a fat buck, they could do something as absurdly simple as installing auto captioning software to make them accessible.
Dude, John just explained that he is unable to ''hear,'' therefore he can't ''access'' Rumble. Is that clear and simple enough? Rumble refuses to offer closed captions. What good is a video to the hearing impaired? Get it?
i liked the documentary. Although it is still my impression that things were terrible in the 90s under Yeltsin that this didn't really go into. Of course some people like the cotton shirt businessman did fine, However the one woman had her husband killed by gangsters but the details were not gone into. It does appear they all had fairly normal childhoods under communism. In another documentary I got that impression that Chernobyl was an ok place to live and work and raise a family until...It was my impression that after Khrushchev things got more and more dreary and even more so under Brezhnev. Gorbachev apparently gave everybody some fresh air but couldn't get the system working. The Afghanistan war was a fiasco and Chernobyl was the, not straw. but log that broke a dysfunctional system.
Haven't finished watching the film but one thing that really stood out to me was Boris saying that he started to see (my impression was even as a child) that what they were being told didn't match reality.
We also get western analysts of communist societies telling us this:
“Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
Anthony Daniels aka Theodore Dalrymple
Leonard Schapiro, writing on Stalinism, warned us that “the true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade. But to produce a uniform pattern of public utterances in which the first trace of unorthodox thought reveals itself as a jarring dissonance.”
What drives me absolutely nuts is that exactly the same applies in Western society - and I guess Dalrymple says this when he speaks of political correctness. Don't we all feel when we're in most of our family or friend circles that we cannot say anything against public utterances on certain topics without serious "jarring dissonance." How utterly ludicrous is it that there is no calling out by ANYONE AT ALL in the media, "There is no special virus. There is nothing, nada, niente to say there is a novel virus anywhere." I mean there's very, very little said in terms of anything against public utterances on covid but there's certainly no hint that there is no novel virus. Actually, one radio person in Australia, Alan Jones, extremely right wing who dominated commercial radio for years and someone I've never had a moment's time for did actually come out and say something like "It's no worse than the flu" and he was sacked. He's 82 and very wealthy so I guess he coped OK.
What an engaging and thought provoking film! I watched about half so far. I find it highly ironic that the high school teacher in Russia is examining in depth with his students the failures of confiscation of property and the mass murder sod displaced people. I’m not sure that is taught in the US public schools anymore. These people are so genuine and human-- and to be introduced to folk who live in one place and one community with friends from childhood. A fascinating look at lives that seem so parallel with my own in so many ways. Thank you Ceila!
Oh. And the turtle needs a log🥹.
Scholastic publishes children's books about the Stalin-era, you'll be very relieved to know:
https://upfront.scholastic.com/issues/2021-22/051622/death-by-hunger.html
Thank you, Ms. Farber. This is the most genuine depiction of Russia and the Russian people I've come across since Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. (And Tolstoy was an elitist.) Perhaps Hedrick Smith's book on Russian society way back during the Cold War comes close but this is really good.https://www.amazon.com/Russians-Hedrick-Smith/dp/0812905210
The people in this film are so real and much like people I know here in the US. I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for posting it.
On YouTube, with captions makes it accessible, the subject matter makes it better than the drivel on the Boob Tube, perfect.
I am not much for movies generally, but the insights provided by this peek at Russian Life makes it possible to watch without feeling like I am wasting time.
Thumbs up for sure, and thank you for this one.
The turtles w nothing to climb on really is the point. Re: frogs & boiling water: Do something about it when something smells funny. Even if it’s not on your job description, it’s your job.
If you’re not sure what to do about it, have an honest conversation with the other boiling frogs in the pot. It’s your job.
Get involved in elections. The song, 81 million votes my ass, resonates for a reason.
https://rumble.com/v3gp7xg-tina-peters-america-will-not-survive-without-secure-election..html
I will watch this and I'm very glad to start watching with the feeling that it's genuine rather than some kind of propaganda where so often that isn't the feeling I start with. One thing I still like to look at are films on the moon landings ... because they're the one thing - despite their seeming improbability - that I know were real and they were a truly awesome achievement. I highly recommend the series, Moon Machines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nLpMBpyw8I&list=PLZxCEYczpR2To4HoKnr7R8wfHUmcKP6bU&index=10.
It absolutely disgusts me that people such as "Bill Kaysing", the first person to come out and say astronauts didn't land on the moon, was an agent whose purpose was to encourage those who tend to disbelieve the authorities to disbelieve the moon landings in order to undermine them Boy Who Cried Wolf style when they called out all the real lies ... just about everything else.
Conspiracy Sarah is a Substack I highly recommend. She specialises in Predictive Programming and these posts on films that fit that phenomenon are mind-blowing.
It's all about fire ... in the movies https://conspiracysarah.substack.com/p/set-fire-to-the-rain
Box set: Twister, The Perfect Storm, Poseidon, Outbreak https://conspiracysarah.substack.com/p/reality-just-writes-itself-these
Her movie-loving 16 year-old son rattles off two titles that fit what she explains to him about HAARP and PP. https://conspiracysarah.substack.com/p/predictive-programming
come over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-MDYopSoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eOdqjHD3v4
There was no dissolution of the USSR.
Yes, I hear you. I need a new phrase for that then.
Great film!
I love Russian films. Thanks.
Dear Remnants of Kanada and Amerika, The Media replaced "Education" in USSA AND kANADA
Celia, off topic. I know you're a cat lover, as I am. I just adopted a 10 wk old adorable female kitten. I'm looking for a holistic vet near NW Connecticut. We have a good vet for our cats and dogs, as far as being a veteran Dr and surgeon, but he's too vaccine-happy and RX-minded for my taste. I'm looking for someone who's more on a natural path. Any recommendations, anyone?
Thanks for this wonderful movie, Celia. Watched this today. Marvelous. That turtle who didn't have an island or a log to rest on when he came up for air-- perhaps they didn't notice as he parallels them--beautiful and tired parents/workers with no time, So much to reflect on here, a reprieve from a lot of film drivel. The language sounds so beautiful, doesn't it?..(.and two bottles of vodka per month per worker, there is a human warmth beneath that control bribe :) ). It seems every country is still trying to recreate the Garden of Eden. How can we ever accept the Fall of Man when the memory of Summer wafts through our waking dreams?
Oh yes, Mr. Reeves, He rescued me. I love Him very much. Thank you so much for your question.
Thanks, Tom! Right back atcha☺️
Is there a non-YouTube link for that? Thanks.
I'd rather support You Tube than Censorship Profiteers like Rumble, too cheap and callous to provide captions.
Fork Rumble!
I disagree.
The real evil is Google. Rumble at least lets you see things that YouTube censors.
You seem to have entirely missed the point
Rumble does NOT allow me to access ANYTHING and people who share your normal hearing tunnel vision don't even try to post on YouTube, this Rumble is a detriment to my access generally, even beyond their own useless to me and millions of others site
I think it's powered by ignorance. I think people really don't believe millions who spent their lives in factories and other noisy occupations are locked out of anything uncaptioned.
I also think people having warm feelings toward Rumble is silly.
They have their own private YouTube with a built in heavy traffic draw.
If they were about informing people instead if turning a fat buck, they could do something as absurdly simple as installing auto captioning software to make them accessible.
But they resolutely will not be bothered.
You may be favorably impressed, I am not.
"Rumble does NOT allow me to access ANYTHING"
I honestly don't know what you're talking about here. Rumble has been fantastic, tons of content that YouTube blocks.
I don't even see any ads on Rumble, but maybe that's due to my running AdBlock in Brave.
If you seriously unable to understand something that simple, after I explained it twice, you must be as thick as a brick.
Wake your mom to explain it to you or something....
Dude, John just explained that he is unable to ''hear,'' therefore he can't ''access'' Rumble. Is that clear and simple enough? Rumble refuses to offer closed captions. What good is a video to the hearing impaired? Get it?
PS- Fuck Rumble.
You could purchase on Vimeo https://vimeo.com/ondemand/myperestroika
i liked the documentary. Although it is still my impression that things were terrible in the 90s under Yeltsin that this didn't really go into. Of course some people like the cotton shirt businessman did fine, However the one woman had her husband killed by gangsters but the details were not gone into. It does appear they all had fairly normal childhoods under communism. In another documentary I got that impression that Chernobyl was an ok place to live and work and raise a family until...It was my impression that after Khrushchev things got more and more dreary and even more so under Brezhnev. Gorbachev apparently gave everybody some fresh air but couldn't get the system working. The Afghanistan war was a fiasco and Chernobyl was the, not straw. but log that broke a dysfunctional system.
Haven't finished watching the film but one thing that really stood out to me was Boris saying that he started to see (my impression was even as a child) that what they were being told didn't match reality.
We also get western analysts of communist societies telling us this:
“Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
Anthony Daniels aka Theodore Dalrymple
Leonard Schapiro, writing on Stalinism, warned us that “the true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade. But to produce a uniform pattern of public utterances in which the first trace of unorthodox thought reveals itself as a jarring dissonance.”
What drives me absolutely nuts is that exactly the same applies in Western society - and I guess Dalrymple says this when he speaks of political correctness. Don't we all feel when we're in most of our family or friend circles that we cannot say anything against public utterances on certain topics without serious "jarring dissonance." How utterly ludicrous is it that there is no calling out by ANYONE AT ALL in the media, "There is no special virus. There is nothing, nada, niente to say there is a novel virus anywhere." I mean there's very, very little said in terms of anything against public utterances on covid but there's certainly no hint that there is no novel virus. Actually, one radio person in Australia, Alan Jones, extremely right wing who dominated commercial radio for years and someone I've never had a moment's time for did actually come out and say something like "It's no worse than the flu" and he was sacked. He's 82 and very wealthy so I guess he coped OK.