What a beautiful and inspiring song! Celia, from the bottom of my heart thank you for posting this song for all of us to enjoy. Have a wonderful Sunday!
I am in tears Celia. This song has been going over and over in my head since the beginning of summer. What a beautiful rendition. Oh Lord Jesus, I pray that you would show grace and mercy, forgive us as well as our ancestors for past transgressions. Heal, save and deliver America from destruction and place her on a path to righteousness. We decree, NO MORE WAR in Your Name, Amen
Beautiful and soul stirring!! Thank you, Celia!! Let us let the words of this song settle deep inside of us! God is marching and we need to get in step with Him.
It brings me to my own family's participation in the "Civil War." Members of the my dad's family fought on both "sides." But the Howe family are the WASP-iest of the WASPS. Banking, lobbying, hyper Unitarian, vegetarianism, more money in their family than anyone I've ever met, connections to the Asters, the Livingstons, the Stuyvesants, the Vanderbuilts, and on and on. Not long ago, I probably would have thought of these as prototypically American, or at least as something to be admired about America. Now, I look at these people as my imprisoners (in truth, I always have to a degree; have never understood why there is not a Whiskey Rebellion every week), involved in secret things and money-making schemes I do not understand, and filled with hatred for the "useless eaters" like me.
Yes totally. I read the history. But we're only in it for the song! Right now anyway. But yes, you're right. It was all those things. And then socialism etc.
Maybe BH of the R was how Julia herself felt about it all. She only married a Howe...and if wikipedia is correct, it wasn't a particularly happy marriage.
We tend to associate this song with Lincoln and the Civil War. It is a great Hymn now of the Christian faith in the Lord's ultimate victory. But the song had to be rewritten from it's original version "John Brown's body lies a moldering in the grave" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_UpjvmwEVI&t=13s
Lincoln was NOT a supporter of John Brown and his abolitionist movement. Not because he supported slavery (which Lincoln had denounced in speeches back in his teens) Lincoln hated slavery, but denounced John Brown in the debates with Douglas in 1858. WHY?
Because Lincoln believed the ONLY answer was to legally outlaw it. The Fugitive Slave Law and Supreme Court Decision in 1850 did more to create problems between the pro-slave states and free states. This even became worse in 1854 with the Kansas/Nebraska Act, when the Douglass policy of "Popular Sovereignty" which ripped Kansas apart as counties began fighting each other. (where John Brown's raids and the Civil War really started).
Lincoln would have even opposed Harriet Tubman, and the underground railroad for the same reasons. The only way to end slavery was legally in Lincoln's thinking, thus he pressed to pass the 13th Amendment in January of 1865. (Not a big fan of Speilberg, but his film "Lincoln" is pretty accurate in how the 13th Amendment was passed)
But the song has been transformed, yet is still immortal now in the Final Victory, when HIS Truth goes marching on.
To me "The Man" is the war machine in it's many disguises and horrors that has been with humankind throughout history. It may be more personal than that. You decide. I choose to believe that the fading music and confessional indicates that in the end the power of life and goodness does prevail.
A rousing camp meeting hymn put in service to glorify vengeance and slaughter. Feel the goose flesh? Also interesting is the fact that our Star Spangled Banner is an American patriotic poem about an 1812 battle which is set to the music of a British song popular in a London gentlemen's club. Your exploration of the Monarch phenomenon has opened my eyes too wide to savor these tunes any longer. I do like the American tunes of the Romantic period though. Stephen Foster is a good example.
What a beautiful and inspiring song! Celia, from the bottom of my heart thank you for posting this song for all of us to enjoy. Have a wonderful Sunday!
When life wounds, you help heal.
I am in tears Celia. This song has been going over and over in my head since the beginning of summer. What a beautiful rendition. Oh Lord Jesus, I pray that you would show grace and mercy, forgive us as well as our ancestors for past transgressions. Heal, save and deliver America from destruction and place her on a path to righteousness. We decree, NO MORE WAR in Your Name, Amen
Beautiful and soul stirring!! Thank you, Celia!! Let us let the words of this song settle deep inside of us! God is marching and we need to get in step with Him.
It brings me to my own family's participation in the "Civil War." Members of the my dad's family fought on both "sides." But the Howe family are the WASP-iest of the WASPS. Banking, lobbying, hyper Unitarian, vegetarianism, more money in their family than anyone I've ever met, connections to the Asters, the Livingstons, the Stuyvesants, the Vanderbuilts, and on and on. Not long ago, I probably would have thought of these as prototypically American, or at least as something to be admired about America. Now, I look at these people as my imprisoners (in truth, I always have to a degree; have never understood why there is not a Whiskey Rebellion every week), involved in secret things and money-making schemes I do not understand, and filled with hatred for the "useless eaters" like me.
Yes totally. I read the history. But we're only in it for the song! Right now anyway. But yes, you're right. It was all those things. And then socialism etc.
Maybe BH of the R was how Julia herself felt about it all. She only married a Howe...and if wikipedia is correct, it wasn't a particularly happy marriage.
What a wonder it seems to me now that we used to gather together and join our voices in song.
We tend to associate this song with Lincoln and the Civil War. It is a great Hymn now of the Christian faith in the Lord's ultimate victory. But the song had to be rewritten from it's original version "John Brown's body lies a moldering in the grave" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_UpjvmwEVI&t=13s
Lincoln was NOT a supporter of John Brown and his abolitionist movement. Not because he supported slavery (which Lincoln had denounced in speeches back in his teens) Lincoln hated slavery, but denounced John Brown in the debates with Douglas in 1858. WHY?
Because Lincoln believed the ONLY answer was to legally outlaw it. The Fugitive Slave Law and Supreme Court Decision in 1850 did more to create problems between the pro-slave states and free states. This even became worse in 1854 with the Kansas/Nebraska Act, when the Douglass policy of "Popular Sovereignty" which ripped Kansas apart as counties began fighting each other. (where John Brown's raids and the Civil War really started).
Lincoln would have even opposed Harriet Tubman, and the underground railroad for the same reasons. The only way to end slavery was legally in Lincoln's thinking, thus he pressed to pass the 13th Amendment in January of 1865. (Not a big fan of Speilberg, but his film "Lincoln" is pretty accurate in how the 13th Amendment was passed)
But the song has been transformed, yet is still immortal now in the Final Victory, when HIS Truth goes marching on.
Summer in Montana
It's the wet 'yes' of a girl's kiss in grass
with shooting stars at elbow and foot,
her rapt eyes unwrapping my plain length
in kinnickinnick, in bear grass air,
the pungent urges of earth
and salty hair twining like tongues.
what bilge
even an atheist such as me couldn't imagine anything that horrible. :) :)
Amen Celia.
I have always liked this song, over the Star Spangled Banner and America the Beautiful!
I confess this is the first time I've followed the words all the way through. It is poetry, to be sure. Thank you !
If this is song day here at TTB then I have two more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x426_84558
To me "The Man" is the war machine in it's many disguises and horrors that has been with humankind throughout history. It may be more personal than that. You decide. I choose to believe that the fading music and confessional indicates that in the end the power of life and goodness does prevail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2yz62_0ToE
A rousing camp meeting hymn put in service to glorify vengeance and slaughter. Feel the goose flesh? Also interesting is the fact that our Star Spangled Banner is an American patriotic poem about an 1812 battle which is set to the music of a British song popular in a London gentlemen's club. Your exploration of the Monarch phenomenon has opened my eyes too wide to savor these tunes any longer. I do like the American tunes of the Romantic period though. Stephen Foster is a good example.
More than likely, a banjo is what they had in that time frame. Reminds me of Shackleton and the Irish banjo player who went on his expedition.
This is the best version I have heard, Celia. Thanks for sharing.
I began crying (joyful and thankful tears).