The Besserwissers In Our Midst: If You Are Over 33 Years Late To An Opposition Movement--Consider A Modicum Of Humility
It's Easy Now, It Pays, It Draws Crowds, Generates Hero Worship, Seems Radical. And Is Historically Illiterate: Peter Duesberg Not "Honest And Forthright" Enough For Some, Who Sacrificed NOTHING
Signatories here. Go ahead, start squealing, go running around, go post your superior radicalisms, your trendy demolitions that could have been done better 30 years ago. Go ahead. Try to erase history. There’s no other way you will be able to shine superior radical contrarian light on yourselves. You’re gleaming and perfect—now that you’ve had 33 years to wait on the sidelines polishing your points of view.
You fail to even be intellectually honest enough to address that there WAS a war, that countless people DIED fighting this, were destroyed fighting this, committed suicide fighting this, had children and loved ones murdered fighting this.
You can’t erase history. You were not there—and that’s fine.
By all means, carry on, and demonstrate your malicious erasure of well documented history. Breathe heavy, attack people, with fake names, 33 years too late, and build little bully kingdoms. Use a fake name and say Kary Mullis did not invent PCR. Beat the crap out of people.
And guess what?
History does not budge.
Kiss Peter Duesberg’s ass. Kary Mullis’ too.
AND 2,895 others, listed with their actual names, here, who risked everything, and mostly, lost everything. Only for you all to show up 33 years later and dictate how it should have been done.
Class acts: “And who might you be to do so?”
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POSTSCRIPT: I think allowing a person space within which to set a record straight is a rare form of grace, and I thank you all for ‘hosting’ my doing just that yesterday.
Perhaps I should have added that Mr. Mike Stone was by no means the person (spirit) I was addressing (though everybody understood this.) Nor was Alec Zeck. Rather, I was set off my the seemingly innocent polio/Duesberg commenter. I saw the words about how Duesberg was supposedly dishonest about polio and it all came rushing forth. I’ve written many such posts in the past and deleted them.
My anger is directed squarely at the cruel, dehumanizing, terrorizing, and bullying squad voices that attack innocent people for not being party line enough about NV. I posted one such attack at the end of the post (“piss guzzling” etc.) It has to STOP. To set out to demean somebody for an intellectual difference, even if wrong, has a chilling and damaging effect on free speech and free thought. On morale. To do so when you have shown up over 30 years late, and obscure, or just not mention, said 30 plus year gap, is suggestive of PSY OP/demoralization agenda.
The spirit is a dark one and it is the same as the dark spirits behind both AIDS and Covid, only with some more accurate science covering up its cruel supremacy agenda. To then repeatedly insist that other people’s opinion are ruining the gleaming reputation of your movement, when your movement’s only reputation is that you inexplicably terrorize and abuse people just trying to figure things out, raises it all to the level of a cult.
Categorically: Back when the rift broke out, The Perth Group accused Duesberg, Crowe, Rasnick, and others of not coming around to its position, its acolytes upgraded this into cause to sledgehammer the movement until nothing moved. It lasted years, and was extremely ugly. The Duesberg camp never demanded the same shift from the HIV has not been proven to exist (Perth) camp. So on side declared war and the other side did not fight on the same terms. The Duesberg camp didn’t need the Perth Camp to convert to itself but the Perth Camp required that people convert or stand accused of “ignorning” their work, even if, as in my case, we wrote about it and wrote about it. Once I put their work into an article, in Harper’s, sent it to them for correction, with almost 4 weeks time allotted. They replied it was not enough time and asked to be removed entirely. I did as they said. Guess what happened? What do you think?
I got accused of again ignoring them. And they attacked the article, when I was at my most besieged and vulnerable. And then I was accused again for the next 15 years of being against them. I was against how they played dirty, in war, and how nothing was ever enough.
Our ethos prior to that had been solidarity and unity against the real enemy, but to them, we were the real enemy.
I had an exchange with Val Turner in 2023-2024 about how PG’s followers hurt people who did not deserve it, and he eventually acknowledged that the most vicious among them “did not speak for the Perth Group.” He still didn’t seem to understand how far it had gone or the deep wounds it had caused.
The Perth Group was not targeted by the global cabal as Peter was, as I was, as so many of us were, but this aspect of the “war” never seemed to interest them. It was purely a matter of perfect/correct science, to them. I found this frankly mind boggling. I don’t adhere to their version of history that Peter Duesberg was a big bad wolf who never admitted they were right and sank the great war. He went as far as his training and and beliefs took him, and he did so without an ounce or rancor or betrayal.
These wounds will never heal. We fought all that, all that, only to be beaten up and re-assigned as trash by forces within our own movement. So in the end, it feels like we fought for nothing, since unity of spirit was always what gave us the strength to go on.
I no longer care what they say about me, I’ve accepted that I did what I did to the best of my ability and I never claimed I was a scientific esoteric wizard, or any scientist, just an interviewer, writer, and historian. If somebody allows for gang brutality, stands by, encourages it, they work for the state, as far as I am concerned. Nobody knows who they are, who pays them, or what dark Gods they pray to. Gods of scientific materialism, but in reverse. Claiming something does not exist, making it the only important thing, is the flip side of the idolatry of claiming a thing exists—both scientific materialism, cold and indifferent to the human spirit caught in the trap. Peter tried always to get people out of that trap. That is the definition of a liberator. AIDS was a monstrous attack on the human spirit. With false, imaginary science attached to it as pretext. Correcting that science without addressing the fact that the beast was designed to kill people whether anything existed or not, is fixing deck chairs on the Titanic.
Let everybody say what they want. Let them earn livings doing so. Let them erase history. But when they bully people, really seek to hurt people, destroy their belief in themselves, I would hope people would see that correct science does not make up for sociopathic cruelty. The person I had hoped to be before they lit into me and tore me apart over the years is in an unmarked grave. Today I rise from it and declare that I accept myself as I am, congratulate myself for surviving, for doing my best, and renew my commitment never to allow myself others to tell me what my worth is.
This is decided by my readers. You. And you gave me a chance to live again, after they left me not wanting to have a name. The barbarism I have witnessed has changed me. I dare say it is also deeply misogynistic. I look forward to living what remains of my life not giving a damn about these dark characters, or their “atrocious” (one of their words about my grasp on science) notions of what this battle is even for. Is it for scientific accuracy? Or is it for the liberation of human souls from battery, abuse, domination, shaming, and tyranny?
”Rudeness and cruelty are the qualities I hate most. Rudeness and cruelty are always connected.”
—Dmitri Shostakovich
I'm not returning to this thread. I've wasted enough of my life on these assholes. I have info on them that would shatter their micro cult followings in 5 minutes if I released them, so they would be wise not to provoke me. I mean emails that speak of wanting to torment and murder some in the Duesberg camp. Homophobic vitriol that would curl your hair. Fantasies of murdering the scientifically impure. And worse.
Might take this post down because it always only leads to more rabid bats mangling history with narcissism that knows no bounds.
And of course, the arriviste bullies peddle the malicious lie that David Crowe sabotaged the Parenzee trial.
The Perth Group walks on water.
Stefan Lanka is fine. It's not his fault this cult started murdering history, defaming even the dead.
Peter AND Kary got strokes. Kary 2019, Peter 2021. David Crowe dropped dead from sudden cancer 2021.
To say these bully children have no clue what went down is an understatement. Science had nothing to do with it. It was murder, murder, murder.