The Scofield Reference Bible Was Commissioned By Architects Of The New World Order: Jerusalem Designated As Capital, Scofield, A Criminal, Was Funded And Protected By Global Elites
The Scofield Reference Bible Was Commissioned By Architects Of The New World Order: Jerusalem Designated As Capital, Scofield, A Criminal, Was Funded And Protected By Global Elites
I'll have to watch the video. The Scofield Bible was unfortunately part of my upbringing, I learned about the history a while ago and was talking to my Dad about it. Many protestants think they'll be rapture-d before the shit hits the fan thanks to Scofield. I remember telling him, "That doesn't make any sense to me, think of all the people that literally gave their lives to support Christianity and people now think they'll just get raptured when things get rough?"
Why do you think that a loving God is going to punish his children with the terrible evil the world has never seen before and then God's wrath (because vengeance is his) on these? One do not need a Scofield Bible at all. (Poor Scofield, I wonder how much is he really guilty of and how much is he miss used, perhaps his work changed and reproduced to be miss used for manipulation? (It has been done to poor Darby). One do not need a Darby nor a Scofield to read Acts 1 for starters. People are not reading with understanding and using their thinking capabilities but just string along after the latest propaganda! Few people really read the Bible for themselves to know the Lord's voice. Tragically!
There are lots of heresies (and cults) formed by people's individual interpretations of the Bible; not to mention that most protestants only know history from the reformation forward. I was one of those people and studied theology in a Baptist college where pre, mid, and post-trib was taught. Interestingly, the current rapture theory was unknown until Scofield, so I don't think it was part of individual interpretation through the Lord's voice. Also, any time a Free Mason shows up in the history of religion it's a bad sign.
I've started studying Eastern Orthodoxy, which traces it's linage from Christ himself through apostolic succession. It focuses more on trying to become more Christ-like through personal transformation and I have heard no one say in that church say, "I'm glad I won't be here for that" like the churches I was raised in. One could argue there have been many anti-christ's already and there will be more.
No, there were millions of Christians never part of the RCC (they are trying to wipe out their history). Read the Pilgrim Church. Scofield/Darby did not invent the rapture. It is used as an argument to distract people from understanding prophecy in the Bible. The real body of Christ is the bride waiting on the Bridegroom who can come at any moment, hence the surprise coming of the Messiah to receive the bride and take her to His Father's house with many mansions where He has prepared a place until the Father is satisfied it is right. Then the Bible mentions the coming of the Messiah to rescue Israel when his feet is going to stand on the Mount of Olives. There is quite a bit to make sure of, and it takes time. Few people do that.
Thank you for the information, I will definitely read Pilgrim Church. I might suggest you check out the Orthodox Study Bible - it is NKJ but I find the depth added to the verses by the years of church history interesting and helpful. I've only been reading the gospels in it so far.
Thank you, I read the KJV and sometimes interlinear versions with original together with the Strong's Concordance to try and get the right meaning of words.
Speaking of saints: Here is a verse from Romans, chapter 1 v 7, "To all those in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints . . ."
Paul's writings and certainly Martin Luther's understand that saints are Believers in Jesus Christ -- all those who trust in Jesus for salvation are saints. Saints are not some special category of super-Christian, as the teachings of the RCC make boast of.
True. I'm not referring to the RCC, I'm referring to Eastern Orthodox who also revere saints as people that have led exemplary lives and are worthy to be imitated. One of the things I like about the Orthodox Church is that it still carries out the ancient traditions that the followers of Christ back in the day were part of because they were taught directly by the apostles. Sola scriptura leaves out a lot of tradition and context.
Yes, the Foxe's Book is more of a history of those martyred, many of them by the RCC although it also gives information on what happened to each of the Apostles. The stories of the martyred Waldenses and Protestants are quite shocking.
But hey. Lots of people have been "raptured" already. Just go to the graveyards. You might even see some names you know. I know people that always said they were "going in the rapture" and sure enough, they did. It can happen at ANY MOMENT!
"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." II Corinthians 5: 5-9.
Now for all of those whose main concern is to SAVE THEIR FLESHLY ASS RIGHT NOW, they will probably be disappointed. Like the saints awaiting the Resurrection of the dead, that will come later. Just be READY at any time for your personal appointment!
Oh BTW, not everybody at the grave yard is with the Lord. ( I should clarify)
Yes, many have gone before us, but the bride still living are looking out for the Bridegroom, that is part of God's providence for us believers to not look forward to death, but to meeting the Bridegroom. The bride in love with the Groom, definitely is not looking out for the flesh, (but are using the time the Lord affords us to live lives pleasing to Him and to witness, giving them a chance to repent and believe, because He does not want any to perish) are you willing to go any moment with the Groom?
I’m just glad I have absolutely nothing to lose from believing Jesus made a way for me to be forgiven and that he died and rose again that I too will spend eternity with my Heavenly Father.
I’m just glad I have absolutely nothing to lose from believing Jesus made a way for me to be forgiven and that he died and rose again that I too will spend eternity with my Heavenly Father.
I've heard that belief before and have lived outside Christianity for a long time, and I respectfully disagree with you. Lucifer is the ruler of this world; I can see it for myself everyday and the opposite of that is Christ, in my opinion. I know others don't feel that way.
So the antidote to other people actively worshiping, sacrificing, and promoting Lucifer is just to be a good person? I've heard this as well, but the people promoting it have not had a life that seems congruent with their beliefs (i.e., being good = goodness in life). All signs, to me, point to a spiritual battle.
One thing I admire about protestants is their foundational tradition about telling people to question the so called authority and checking things up by yourself.
One story goes like this: the Catholic church who controlled Europe didn't want people to learn to read or write, because then they would read the Holy Bible, and they will interpret it wrongly, and people would live in theological error. So keeping people illiterate and totally enslaved by the authoritative interpretation of the word of God by the Church (an interpretation that changed over time following political and military trends, by the way) was the seen as the right way have a Christian country. Opinions not allowed, research not allowed, you submit to earthly power or else you will be killed as an heretic.
That's exactly the same thing that happens with Science. People should never read science, they should never have opinions or interpretations, and they should submit to whatever new irrationality the scientists come up with, such as the idea that a black hole may appear somewhere any time and destroy everything.
Take virology, for example. A low-life journalist should never question the authority of the CDC. The job of a journalist is to repeat uncritically whatever piece of officialist bullshit the Experts proclaim. "Ebola is a terrible disease, we may all die in less than a week and we don't have a vaccine which is the ONLY THING that can save us, we need more money and more power over your life, now go fly, winged-monkey journalists, and spread terror among the sheeple."
But, as with the Bible, it turns out that when unlearned people take the time to learn science and read by themselves, they discover the lies.
The same happens with the evil nonsense of zionism. Christians of all stripes go a read by themselves and discover the truth, against the officialist bullshit put forth by the experts, called Pastors, Ministers or Priests in this case.
At the very least, all Christians should agree that having the liberty to do your own research **can be** a good thing that reveals the truth and destroys error, whether in faith, or in modern science, or in anything else.
I think God wants people to know and to learn, and not to be mentally enslaved to chronic liars and clowns.
Rockefeller and Carnegie behind this. Anyone heard of a place nicknamed The God Box in New York?
Funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund to house all faiths using the strategy of ecumenism to water down religions in order to conquer and overlap them. Second Vatican council in the 1960's focused on ecumenism and since then The Church has lost its footing. Even the authentic Pope was subverted in 2013 with the heretical present pretense of one.
The design of the Supreme Court in Israel is symbolic, read about it somewhere, and it's amazing how what is right in front of us we cannot see. They are usurping the world at all levels, even, maybe especially, the sacred ones.
Rockefeller and other families think they're head of the world, making rules that will destroy it. I think the Pope was subverted earlier than 2013, and maybe 100 years or more before!
Psalm 118:22: “the stone the builders rejected has become the capstone.”
In my 1985 NIV study Bible I find this note: “Most likely a reference to the king … Others suppose that the stone refers to Israel, a nation held in contempt by world powers. … This stone, disdained by the worldly powers, has become the most important stone in the structure of the new world order that God is bringing about through Israel. Jesus applied this verse to himself.”
So God is bringing about the new world order through Israel, is he? There is no scriptural basis for this. How many of these deceptions are sprinkled throughout the modern versions? This versions editors kept or modified this reference to Zionism in the study notes, which align with Scofield. So, a while ago, I purchased the KJV Matthew Henry study Bible and use Barnes’s notes in the Bible Hub app for verse by verse understanding. My regret is not doing this sooner.
The Gideons came to my 7th grade classroom handing out pocket new testaments, and when I read Matthew chapter 24, I wondered if anybody thought twice about too many cars with smoking tailpipes like I did. I was disposed toward last days beliefs and soon hooked up with Jehovah's Witnesses and their New World translation. Hal Lindsay nipped me to the Jerusalem Bible which I bought with tips from my grocery delivery job. Now I got all kinds of translations and still can't catch up. Might I recommend Yii-Jan Lin at yale, a new testament scholar whose book is "The use of Revelation in American immigration history," in which she says Columbus was eager to build and inhabit ' New Jerusalem,' although I fear his was already the mindset to discover an earthly paradise and leave it a scene of slavery and scarification, as though the demon of the wilderness had sent him hither. I think the state for Rockefeller and Carnegie had been set when English landlords set the Magna Carta at nought and sought exclusive forest lands and enclosures, sending common folks to labor in 'satanic mills' in unbuilt Jerusalem.
You need to understand that there's a distinction here--this substack is not anti-semetic, it is anti-Zionist. If you can appreciate the links between a one world government and the evolution of zionism, you'll see that it is not an attack on Jews.
There is a difference between Christian Zionism and Jewish Zionism. One is driven primarily by a desire for a secure homeland, the other by a misinterpretation of the Bible. These are not the same thing.
I think it's a condition caused by a young impressionable boy who read stories told of and by, a bronze age Jewish politician who kept finding himself nailed up between two thieves.
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Wow! Makes you question everything now! What is real? I grew up with that Bible. In adulthood I switched to the Geneva. But I am not a Calvinist. Life is just too darn complicated 🤪
I'm all fer sharin' info of those one thinks highly of but -- I hate ta say it--but these two men are fulla SHIT, pardon my French. Those hearin' it might believe--so I sez believe what'cha like but I'll set a few "pernts" straight just fer balance (take 'em er leave 'em).
They have NO CLUE 'bout joos 'er judaism.
1. Most "chews" are not at ALL "Talmud Chews"--nearly all've us ('cept the ultra Orthodox) were raised on Torah alone--knowin' the 10 Commandments--there are actually 'bout 138 if I recall, learnin' the stories an' scripture of the Old Testament (which are the first 5 books've the bible), learnin' right from wrong (oh yes, you'd all be surprised), an' NOT EVER knowin jack squat 'bout Talmud. Talmud is NOT chewish LAW--it's a book of dissenting opinions on Jewish law fer Torah Scholars (only the men!!!!) to argue about--an' nuttin' "trumps" the Torah--so if someone in Talmud debates a moral question it's often theoretical--an' would never be put inta practice--any idiot that claims chews all foller the Talmud an' no zilch 'bout Torah are makin' it all up--the Talmud is more like an academic textbook've arguments an' IDEAS. All the rabbis that opine disagree with each other! Jews love ta argue (that much is true!) The rest is just lies tho' folks kin believe whut they want... MOST chews, reformed, conservative, an' orthodox ALL are Torah Jews!
2. The Khazarian tale they tell is full out baloney--it's popular tho', that's about it. Fer a better view of whut went down in Khazaria (which was veeely short lived), listen ta Matt Ehret: one interview here: http://tinyurl.com/56t7rzd5 and a'nuther good'un here: http://tinyurl.com/ms7me7cv (Mel K, Courtney Turner--both "good chews" I'll add...)
As far as this Khazarian "invention" goes, the truth is contrary ta myth, Jews have NO Turkish / Ottoman DNA--ZERO an' that includes all Askenazis. Also the language--Yiddish--has ZERO turkish in it--linguists say German, Russian, some Hebrew. Period. An'uther myth. The brilliant but whackdoodles Arthur Koestler (whom these fine gents quote) wuz a spook on the US gubbamint payroll an' had a self-admitted AGENDA to disprove Jewish connection to Israel (the idear wuz ta stop all the fightin' by takin' away the Jews' claim ta any land there). He admits ta makin' it up! Also, he had a little chip on his shoulder--hated kibbutz life (spent some time in Israel), could never manage Hebrew, didn't git the job he wanted in Israel an' felt a bit bitter about the whole experience so in a sour grapes effort--"you reject me so THERE!" he wrote a book with a story made up outta WHOLE CLOTH.
Believe what'cha want. (Not Shlomo Sand please tho', he's another faker based on wishful thinkin'....) Jewish DNA is ALWAYS descended from Abraham on the Father's line--SAME DANG LINE always an' shared by both Ashkenazi an' Sephardic /Mizrahi an' that includes those in the diaspora. Also, it's different from Arab DNA. Both semetic but Arab DNA is universally shared in ALL Arab countries--no difference 'tween Jordanian an' Egyptian an' Palestinian DNA (re the latter, however that is defined cuz it's by territory). So these 2 gents who I'm SURE mean well are spewin' a hot pile've u know whut in sayin' chews have no Chewish DNA. On the mother's line the Sephardic Chews & Mizrahi also have Abrahamic DNA but the Ashkenazis, by contrast, ALL descend from 4 mothers who were German (converted formally to Judaism over 1000 years ago). Now y'all won't believe me, sure. So ask David Duke who more 'n life itself (as a big ol' chew-hater) wanted to PROVE that Jews have no genetic relationship to Israel . He wuz wrong an' at least he had the "chutzpah" ta admit it: https://davidduke.com/rethinking-khazar-theory/ (he shares TWELVE STUDIES, kinda like the 12 tribes lol) that prove Jews are not Khazarians AND are all related ta each other (on the father line) AND to Israel... This has been SETTLED since at least 2016 but mebbe these fellers are not aware of any of this? Perhaps, but then they should not... pontificate 'bout what they don't know--both kin do their homework better... 12 studies an' all ---some over 20 years old, others newer...
3. the idear that all "chews" were kicked outta the land fer good is "their" fiction, Scofield 'er not. Bibles pre-Scofield have all manner've translations but it's news ta me an' ta many Christians I know that "choos" were kicked out fer good an' kin only come back as Christians.... So no connection eh? All made up in Scofield? Nearly ALL Jewish prayers (waaay older than 1948, waaay older than "zionism") begin "Hear oh Israel--"(usually follered by the "The Lord our God The Lord is One" an' so forth... an' every Pesach ends with "next year in Jerusalem"-- in between, Israel is mentioned constantly in prayer an' in traditional chewish songs.
So what's that, chopped liver? That every bit of Jewish learnin' an' prayer is imbued with Israel?! Even us livin' in the diaspora know that much, sheesh. Now if ya think the Ol' Testament (which has zip all ta do with Scofield) is all a "zionist plot" (plotz?) ta convince chews there's some connection when there ain't I'm not sure what ta say.
5. Quotin' Holocaust-denier nutcase Michael Hoffman an' INSANE Brother Nathanael Kapner (a self-hatin' former chew with a sideshow gimmick goin' "full def con" on chews....) takes Perloff & pals down more than a notch in my book. Hoffman is no more an' expurt on chewish law than Nikole Hanna Jones is on the "her-story" of AmeriKa. Oy. With sources like that ya might as well consult the Bazooka Joe comics inside the gum... I cain't take these fellers seriously given their "sources." OH an' Perloff sez he's consulted WackyPaedia fer his info on Jews--whull golly, he's a real scholar now! (I'm sorry ta be snarky but I thought this man wuz far better informed than he iz---fer a half Chew he ain't too swift at least when it comes ta research)
Heck, in the conversation they even quote the blood libel mentionin' that there are good chews that don't drink blood. WOW, just wow. Jews know that many mis-translations of talmud have led ta some big ass chew-hate. Nobuddy is havin' sex with 3 year olds or sacrificin' folks. Oh an' goyim ain't cattle either. Goyim just mean "other" but that's far less "interestin' "-- an' y'all know that while Christians say only "they" kin go ta heaven (clearly Perloff & pal believe no Jew kin go ta heaven unless they accept Jesus--give up their Judaism...), an' Muslims believe only they kin achieve their heaven (Christians & Chews are damned infidels---but per Perloff & Pal "good" muslims don't believe this...rilly?!) BUT...while this is so fer both these faiths, y'all know that in Judaism EVERYONE kin go ta heaven as long as they are willin' ta foller the 7 Noahide Laws...
I repeat, in Judaism, Christians TOO--Buddhists--all are equal under God an' kin go ta heaven if they foller these laws (which IMO ain't Satanic! at all...)
The seven Noahide laws, as traditionally enumerated are:
Do Not Deny God
Do Not Blaspheme God
Do Not Murder
Do Not Engage in Incestuous, Adulterous or Homosexual Relationships.
Do Not Steal
Do Not Eat of a Live Animal
Establish Courts/Legal System to Ensure Law Obedience
GUESS WHUT--per these laws secular Chews ain't goin' either... no free pass fer 'em. Ta me that sounds FAIR.
(ps there are puhlenty of gay "chews" includin' many who are very religious--an' yup, they're accepted in Israel an I have zero issues with it--all other places in the middle east ya git killed fer it! I'm no authority on how this works with "heaven" 'er not but most gay chews I know are far more like Bari Weiss (& her wife Nellie, a converted Jew)--than the twerkin' pink-haired lgbtq++@## folks that seem ta be the new image of "gay")--a 'nuther story but I'm just sharin' the noahide as it ferbids all the stuff most folks accuse "chews" of doin'... OH an' Perloff also believes Bro' Nathanael that rabbis spit at churches? I. have. no. "woids."
6. 'fore Balfour Israel wuz about 10% chewish--that's without any Brits intervenin'. The argument that b/c many of the foundin' "fathers" of Israel were secular and THEREFORE did not have any religious connection with Israel is absurd. MOST chews did not come ta Israel to worship freely (that's the Hanukkah fight, far older!) but ruther ta have a place to live, a homeland--secular or not. MOST chews that call themselfs Zionists just wanted a homeland--a place ta live in peace. They did NOT know 'bout Rothschilds 'er the likes of Balfour (who actually hated jews) They did not know that as far as England wuz concerned, this wuz 'bout strategic territory an' resources, NOT ABOUT JEWS. Fwiw, France an' the US an' the allies all gave their OK too--all 'fore Israel wuz declared a state ...Truth is most chews that escaped to or move to Israel just wanted a home an' had no clue that some rotten "schtunks" who didn't give a hoot 'bout them (as a people) took advantage of the situation. Heck, most chews were told the land wuz "empty" (oh yes, that lie went 'round fer 'bout a century). So innocent good people happen ta be Zionists fer the "crime" of wantin' a home.
Is NetAn'Yahoo an evil warmonger? YES! Is her murderin' innocents? YES--an' many--(trigger warnin' comin;) GOOD ZIONISTS yes ZIONISTS are mortified an' horrified--they are NOT cheerin' on this maniac but they wring hands, they don't want blood on 'em but as ya know, SPEAKIN' OUT against Herr BeebeeGun is verboten (like you'll be arrested). So I DO NOT think these two fellers who both know SQUAT about Chews are so "assured" bout their bunkery. OK, if they say only Christians'll go to heaven an' only Christians deserve to live in Israel--so be it. But to misstate who chews are--an' only suggest that the ONLY good chews are anti-zionist... to state they have no connection with Israel (b/c they are secular an' Israel is a land've sin... cuz y'know gays are not thrown off buildin's there an' all...) is really douche-baggy. Yup. An' they state with authori-tay they ain't anti-semitic? Wull, I don't like whut the ADL calls anti-semitism (that ADL kin go ta he-double-toothpicks) but while bein' thoughtful Christians this is very anti-Jewish--lumpin' us all together, damin' all ta hell unless we "convert"* more 'r 'less, tellin' us how we worship (assertin' it's talmud not torah an' then mis-definin' it), quotin' Arthur Koestler on Khazaria... Wull, I could go on but I'd need too much terlet paper ta wipe up this mess...
MOST Jews are good people wuther they CALL THEMSELVES Zionists 'er not. MOST chews I know are NOT callin' fer "blood" or fer the killin' of innocents--Hamas, sure, but not innocents--but due ta fukery an' fakery nobuddy the heck knows what is goin' on. The MSM shared bullshart lies from both sides. I'm near-convinced NetAn'Yoohoo wants ta DESTROY Israel (he certainly destroyed any good will fer Jews the world over)--fer the globalists. Most chews in Israel are not rich--many are below middle class--they ain't Rothschilds OR greedy OR money launderin' OR land-grabbin' . Sigh.
Ceila, I know yer good people. I know yer devout in yer faith an' mean well. I'm gonna say sumthin' harsh. Ya missed out an' I sense yer tryin' ta tell yerself ya didn't. Side where ya want in this war but presentin' this "picture" of Jews--an' of Christian Zionists--so belittles both that I have ta think there's a reason. Yer daddy sounds like he was a very kind, good, decent, funny man--an' yup he was a "chew." I dunno if he wuz fully secular 'er not-- but yer havin' missed out on experiencin' any bit of yer Jewish heritage I think makes ya wanna feel certain that... ya didn't miss out. I'm sure ya have nice chewish pals--I know ya only mean well. But I'm seein' so much here that shows no understandin' of Judaism 'er Israel 'er Chewish Identity. An' agin, most Zionists are no better represented by their current rotten government than most Americans are represented by ours. Peace out... an' may there be peace in Israel too one day... Sorry 'bout the rant... this one had me surprised...
I'll have to watch the video. The Scofield Bible was unfortunately part of my upbringing, I learned about the history a while ago and was talking to my Dad about it. Many protestants think they'll be rapture-d before the shit hits the fan thanks to Scofield. I remember telling him, "That doesn't make any sense to me, think of all the people that literally gave their lives to support Christianity and people now think they'll just get raptured when things get rough?"
Why do you think that a loving God is going to punish his children with the terrible evil the world has never seen before and then God's wrath (because vengeance is his) on these? One do not need a Scofield Bible at all. (Poor Scofield, I wonder how much is he really guilty of and how much is he miss used, perhaps his work changed and reproduced to be miss used for manipulation? (It has been done to poor Darby). One do not need a Darby nor a Scofield to read Acts 1 for starters. People are not reading with understanding and using their thinking capabilities but just string along after the latest propaganda! Few people really read the Bible for themselves to know the Lord's voice. Tragically!
There are lots of heresies (and cults) formed by people's individual interpretations of the Bible; not to mention that most protestants only know history from the reformation forward. I was one of those people and studied theology in a Baptist college where pre, mid, and post-trib was taught. Interestingly, the current rapture theory was unknown until Scofield, so I don't think it was part of individual interpretation through the Lord's voice. Also, any time a Free Mason shows up in the history of religion it's a bad sign.
I've started studying Eastern Orthodoxy, which traces it's linage from Christ himself through apostolic succession. It focuses more on trying to become more Christ-like through personal transformation and I have heard no one say in that church say, "I'm glad I won't be here for that" like the churches I was raised in. One could argue there have been many anti-christ's already and there will be more.
"For the Christ that has not risen
From the caverns of the heart"
Land of Plenty...Leonard Cohen.
No, there were millions of Christians never part of the RCC (they are trying to wipe out their history). Read the Pilgrim Church. Scofield/Darby did not invent the rapture. It is used as an argument to distract people from understanding prophecy in the Bible. The real body of Christ is the bride waiting on the Bridegroom who can come at any moment, hence the surprise coming of the Messiah to receive the bride and take her to His Father's house with many mansions where He has prepared a place until the Father is satisfied it is right. Then the Bible mentions the coming of the Messiah to rescue Israel when his feet is going to stand on the Mount of Olives. There is quite a bit to make sure of, and it takes time. Few people do that.
Thank you for the information, I will definitely read Pilgrim Church. I might suggest you check out the Orthodox Study Bible - it is NKJ but I find the depth added to the verses by the years of church history interesting and helpful. I've only been reading the gospels in it so far.
Thank you, I read the KJV and sometimes interlinear versions with original together with the Strong's Concordance to try and get the right meaning of words.
Foxe's Book of Martyrs proves that theory.
I'm just learning about the saints and I'm finding it fascinating. Much more inspiring than the emotional testimonies I used to hear in church.
Speaking of saints: Here is a verse from Romans, chapter 1 v 7, "To all those in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints . . ."
Paul's writings and certainly Martin Luther's understand that saints are Believers in Jesus Christ -- all those who trust in Jesus for salvation are saints. Saints are not some special category of super-Christian, as the teachings of the RCC make boast of.
True. I'm not referring to the RCC, I'm referring to Eastern Orthodox who also revere saints as people that have led exemplary lives and are worthy to be imitated. One of the things I like about the Orthodox Church is that it still carries out the ancient traditions that the followers of Christ back in the day were part of because they were taught directly by the apostles. Sola scriptura leaves out a lot of tradition and context.
And there is the rub, Rochelle.
Thank you for your reply.
Yes, the Foxe's Book is more of a history of those martyred, many of them by the RCC although it also gives information on what happened to each of the Apostles. The stories of the martyred Waldenses and Protestants are quite shocking.
..One Mole of Gold..
They fasted first till near dead from thirst
Then for halos most outstanding
Sweet Jesus and his Sainted Mates
They ate a crate of auranges.
But hey. Lots of people have been "raptured" already. Just go to the graveyards. You might even see some names you know. I know people that always said they were "going in the rapture" and sure enough, they did. It can happen at ANY MOMENT!
"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." II Corinthians 5: 5-9.
Now for all of those whose main concern is to SAVE THEIR FLESHLY ASS RIGHT NOW, they will probably be disappointed. Like the saints awaiting the Resurrection of the dead, that will come later. Just be READY at any time for your personal appointment!
Oh BTW, not everybody at the grave yard is with the Lord. ( I should clarify)
The Groom is going to come for the bride (the believers still alive on earth) and they will meet Him in the air. No one knows when, but the Father.
Yes, many have gone before us, but the bride still living are looking out for the Bridegroom, that is part of God's providence for us believers to not look forward to death, but to meeting the Bridegroom. The bride in love with the Groom, definitely is not looking out for the flesh, (but are using the time the Lord affords us to live lives pleasing to Him and to witness, giving them a chance to repent and believe, because He does not want any to perish) are you willing to go any moment with the Groom?
Yes. We have to live now for the time being, and walk with Him as he asks us to do. We need to be ready.
Did he say "we have to walk with him" ..because his mother was a virgin?
Or did he give other compelling reasons?
Other reasons. The gate is straight, and the path narrow. Broad is the way that leads to destruction and many will go down thereby.
That Sounds like a tv evangelist selling religion the same way he sold aluminum siding.
Mortal insecurity creates multiple opportunities for door to door afterlife salesmen..
I’m just glad I have absolutely nothing to lose from believing Jesus made a way for me to be forgiven and that he died and rose again that I too will spend eternity with my Heavenly Father.
Mental illness will do that to you.
I’m just glad I have absolutely nothing to lose from believing Jesus made a way for me to be forgiven and that he died and rose again that I too will spend eternity with my Heavenly Father.
It's a subliminal carryover from the origional, God favors the Jews shtick.
The Christians naturally adapted it (divine favoritism) into their franchise.
This is all about Christian Zionism (Scofield). I had read his history a while ago, but this interview is quite good and connects some dots.
Yes it is but, the denouement is that Christianity is the light and the truth ..when Christianity is a planned contingency of the original God scam.
It's a kind of Limited Hangout.
I've heard that belief before and have lived outside Christianity for a long time, and I respectfully disagree with you. Lucifer is the ruler of this world; I can see it for myself everyday and the opposite of that is Christ, in my opinion. I know others don't feel that way.
I can certainly see yours and others need for a reference point for the desire to be good.
The reference points are anthropomorphic though.
My opinion is that to be good requires to use yourself as the datum or benchmark of goodness.
Using the exponent driven icons of good and evil, leaves people vulnerable to group think, absurd theology and problematic consensus.
The natural need for group inclusion notwithstanding.
So the antidote to other people actively worshiping, sacrificing, and promoting Lucifer is just to be a good person? I've heard this as well, but the people promoting it have not had a life that seems congruent with their beliefs (i.e., being good = goodness in life). All signs, to me, point to a spiritual battle.
I’m sure you know that sir Issac Newton and Albert Einstein were believers.
Believers in what?
And did you hear then proclaim their belief?
Then one turns to Scofield's mentor, John Nelson Darby...
Funded by Untermeyer & gang.
What about the fact that dispensationalism is the chief problem with the Scofield Bible?
The abscence of Charis - gifts - flies in the face of "He ascended on high ,bringing (same) "
At least get to the bottom of Schofield's (transl) limitations..
One thing I admire about protestants is their foundational tradition about telling people to question the so called authority and checking things up by yourself.
One story goes like this: the Catholic church who controlled Europe didn't want people to learn to read or write, because then they would read the Holy Bible, and they will interpret it wrongly, and people would live in theological error. So keeping people illiterate and totally enslaved by the authoritative interpretation of the word of God by the Church (an interpretation that changed over time following political and military trends, by the way) was the seen as the right way have a Christian country. Opinions not allowed, research not allowed, you submit to earthly power or else you will be killed as an heretic.
That's exactly the same thing that happens with Science. People should never read science, they should never have opinions or interpretations, and they should submit to whatever new irrationality the scientists come up with, such as the idea that a black hole may appear somewhere any time and destroy everything.
Take virology, for example. A low-life journalist should never question the authority of the CDC. The job of a journalist is to repeat uncritically whatever piece of officialist bullshit the Experts proclaim. "Ebola is a terrible disease, we may all die in less than a week and we don't have a vaccine which is the ONLY THING that can save us, we need more money and more power over your life, now go fly, winged-monkey journalists, and spread terror among the sheeple."
But, as with the Bible, it turns out that when unlearned people take the time to learn science and read by themselves, they discover the lies.
The same happens with the evil nonsense of zionism. Christians of all stripes go a read by themselves and discover the truth, against the officialist bullshit put forth by the experts, called Pastors, Ministers or Priests in this case.
At the very least, all Christians should agree that having the liberty to do your own research **can be** a good thing that reveals the truth and destroys error, whether in faith, or in modern science, or in anything else.
I think God wants people to know and to learn, and not to be mentally enslaved to chronic liars and clowns.
a beautiful comment
Rockefeller and Carnegie behind this. Anyone heard of a place nicknamed The God Box in New York?
Funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund to house all faiths using the strategy of ecumenism to water down religions in order to conquer and overlap them. Second Vatican council in the 1960's focused on ecumenism and since then The Church has lost its footing. Even the authentic Pope was subverted in 2013 with the heretical present pretense of one.
The design of the Supreme Court in Israel is symbolic, read about it somewhere, and it's amazing how what is right in front of us we cannot see. They are usurping the world at all levels, even, maybe especially, the sacred ones.
Rockefeller and other families think they're head of the world, making rules that will destroy it. I think the Pope was subverted earlier than 2013, and maybe 100 years or more before!
Watch this recent documentary. He goes into the exact same things:
https://stopworldcontrol.com/israel/
Brilliant documentary. Helped me understand the abysmal roots of Christian Zionism.
Thank you. That's the truth. That cursed book pushed the insidious Rapture doctrine and the church fell asleep
Psalm 118:22: “the stone the builders rejected has become the capstone.”
In my 1985 NIV study Bible I find this note: “Most likely a reference to the king … Others suppose that the stone refers to Israel, a nation held in contempt by world powers. … This stone, disdained by the worldly powers, has become the most important stone in the structure of the new world order that God is bringing about through Israel. Jesus applied this verse to himself.”
So God is bringing about the new world order through Israel, is he? There is no scriptural basis for this. How many of these deceptions are sprinkled throughout the modern versions? This versions editors kept or modified this reference to Zionism in the study notes, which align with Scofield. So, a while ago, I purchased the KJV Matthew Henry study Bible and use Barnes’s notes in the Bible Hub app for verse by verse understanding. My regret is not doing this sooner.
The Gideons came to my 7th grade classroom handing out pocket new testaments, and when I read Matthew chapter 24, I wondered if anybody thought twice about too many cars with smoking tailpipes like I did. I was disposed toward last days beliefs and soon hooked up with Jehovah's Witnesses and their New World translation. Hal Lindsay nipped me to the Jerusalem Bible which I bought with tips from my grocery delivery job. Now I got all kinds of translations and still can't catch up. Might I recommend Yii-Jan Lin at yale, a new testament scholar whose book is "The use of Revelation in American immigration history," in which she says Columbus was eager to build and inhabit ' New Jerusalem,' although I fear his was already the mindset to discover an earthly paradise and leave it a scene of slavery and scarification, as though the demon of the wilderness had sent him hither. I think the state for Rockefeller and Carnegie had been set when English landlords set the Magna Carta at nought and sought exclusive forest lands and enclosures, sending common folks to labor in 'satanic mills' in unbuilt Jerusalem.
This substack was better before the autho went full antisemite
You need to understand that there's a distinction here--this substack is not anti-semetic, it is anti-Zionist. If you can appreciate the links between a one world government and the evolution of zionism, you'll see that it is not an attack on Jews.
There is a difference between Christian Zionism and Jewish Zionism. One is driven primarily by a desire for a secure homeland, the other by a misinterpretation of the Bible. These are not the same thing.
Amen
Amen
Seriously? Maybe she’s exploring Truth. We’ve ALL been lied to!
Are you sure who is doing the lying and who is telling the truth?
I have a damn good idea, and I’m always open to new facts/information.
Au contraire Moshé ...the author displays great sympathy for the Palestinians...
Perhaps...but how is that a problem?
It is about definitions, and precision in language. Define "Semite", and you will have your answer.
If I define "Semite," I will have the answer to my question to poetinapaperbag?
As I re-read his/her comment, I think I may have misunderstood his/her point...
The poet speaks in parables and ironic rebounds.
I think it's a condition caused by a young impressionable boy who read stories told of and by, a bronze age Jewish politician who kept finding himself nailed up between two thieves.
If nothing else, it shows how interpretations can be problematic but, this is far better than a New World Language.
Yes, isn't it interesting. Whitney Webb did a piece on this when she was at Mint Press.
Do you have a link to the piece Whitney Webb did on this same topic? I would greatly appreciate it.
I thought the other was on my clip but this was on my clipboard, but you might also appreciate: Electronic Support for Public Health–Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS)
https://www.mintpressnews.com/untold-story-christian-zionists-power-united-states-israel/260532/
This New Testament is translated from original Greek and Aramaic, not Latin (previously translated from Greek and Aramaic) like all the others.
https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-David-Bentley-Hart/dp/0300265700/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3QKV0IQVJU3KI&keywords=david+bentley+hart+new+testament+2nd+edition&qid=1707408260&sprefix=david+bentley+har%2Caps%2C195&sr=8-1
That must make toyboy pissant Donald Trump, an accessory after the fact.
Brendon Lee O'Connell has been saying this for the past few years:
Israel is to be the capital of the NWO; and Trump wears a little cap - honorary or otherwise.
Trump is also Jesuit-educated. The InfoWars crew all reject and deflect any mention of Jesuits...
Oh yes and Putin/Russia are in on it - which should be obvious to anyone with a brain.
You're an accessory after the fact Unknown Comic. Pull your grocery bag over your head and exit stage right....or left, just exit. You're not funny and I gong you!🤣
Still got that bug up your nether regions I see Tommy.
Wow! Makes you question everything now! What is real? I grew up with that Bible. In adulthood I switched to the Geneva. But I am not a Calvinist. Life is just too darn complicated 🤪
Thank you for posting this Celia. I've been on this trail of research and trying to fight the disinformation of the Israel narrative and Christianity.
What an excellent discussion with these two men. I'm grateful for this.
I'm all fer sharin' info of those one thinks highly of but -- I hate ta say it--but these two men are fulla SHIT, pardon my French. Those hearin' it might believe--so I sez believe what'cha like but I'll set a few "pernts" straight just fer balance (take 'em er leave 'em).
They have NO CLUE 'bout joos 'er judaism.
1. Most "chews" are not at ALL "Talmud Chews"--nearly all've us ('cept the ultra Orthodox) were raised on Torah alone--knowin' the 10 Commandments--there are actually 'bout 138 if I recall, learnin' the stories an' scripture of the Old Testament (which are the first 5 books've the bible), learnin' right from wrong (oh yes, you'd all be surprised), an' NOT EVER knowin jack squat 'bout Talmud. Talmud is NOT chewish LAW--it's a book of dissenting opinions on Jewish law fer Torah Scholars (only the men!!!!) to argue about--an' nuttin' "trumps" the Torah--so if someone in Talmud debates a moral question it's often theoretical--an' would never be put inta practice--any idiot that claims chews all foller the Talmud an' no zilch 'bout Torah are makin' it all up--the Talmud is more like an academic textbook've arguments an' IDEAS. All the rabbis that opine disagree with each other! Jews love ta argue (that much is true!) The rest is just lies tho' folks kin believe whut they want... MOST chews, reformed, conservative, an' orthodox ALL are Torah Jews!
2. The Khazarian tale they tell is full out baloney--it's popular tho', that's about it. Fer a better view of whut went down in Khazaria (which was veeely short lived), listen ta Matt Ehret: one interview here: http://tinyurl.com/56t7rzd5 and a'nuther good'un here: http://tinyurl.com/ms7me7cv (Mel K, Courtney Turner--both "good chews" I'll add...)
As far as this Khazarian "invention" goes, the truth is contrary ta myth, Jews have NO Turkish / Ottoman DNA--ZERO an' that includes all Askenazis. Also the language--Yiddish--has ZERO turkish in it--linguists say German, Russian, some Hebrew. Period. An'uther myth. The brilliant but whackdoodles Arthur Koestler (whom these fine gents quote) wuz a spook on the US gubbamint payroll an' had a self-admitted AGENDA to disprove Jewish connection to Israel (the idear wuz ta stop all the fightin' by takin' away the Jews' claim ta any land there). He admits ta makin' it up! Also, he had a little chip on his shoulder--hated kibbutz life (spent some time in Israel), could never manage Hebrew, didn't git the job he wanted in Israel an' felt a bit bitter about the whole experience so in a sour grapes effort--"you reject me so THERE!" he wrote a book with a story made up outta WHOLE CLOTH.
Believe what'cha want. (Not Shlomo Sand please tho', he's another faker based on wishful thinkin'....) Jewish DNA is ALWAYS descended from Abraham on the Father's line--SAME DANG LINE always an' shared by both Ashkenazi an' Sephardic /Mizrahi an' that includes those in the diaspora. Also, it's different from Arab DNA. Both semetic but Arab DNA is universally shared in ALL Arab countries--no difference 'tween Jordanian an' Egyptian an' Palestinian DNA (re the latter, however that is defined cuz it's by territory). So these 2 gents who I'm SURE mean well are spewin' a hot pile've u know whut in sayin' chews have no Chewish DNA. On the mother's line the Sephardic Chews & Mizrahi also have Abrahamic DNA but the Ashkenazis, by contrast, ALL descend from 4 mothers who were German (converted formally to Judaism over 1000 years ago). Now y'all won't believe me, sure. So ask David Duke who more 'n life itself (as a big ol' chew-hater) wanted to PROVE that Jews have no genetic relationship to Israel . He wuz wrong an' at least he had the "chutzpah" ta admit it: https://davidduke.com/rethinking-khazar-theory/ (he shares TWELVE STUDIES, kinda like the 12 tribes lol) that prove Jews are not Khazarians AND are all related ta each other (on the father line) AND to Israel... This has been SETTLED since at least 2016 but mebbe these fellers are not aware of any of this? Perhaps, but then they should not... pontificate 'bout what they don't know--both kin do their homework better... 12 studies an' all ---some over 20 years old, others newer...
3. the idear that all "chews" were kicked outta the land fer good is "their" fiction, Scofield 'er not. Bibles pre-Scofield have all manner've translations but it's news ta me an' ta many Christians I know that "choos" were kicked out fer good an' kin only come back as Christians.... So no connection eh? All made up in Scofield? Nearly ALL Jewish prayers (waaay older than 1948, waaay older than "zionism") begin "Hear oh Israel--"(usually follered by the "The Lord our God The Lord is One" an' so forth... an' every Pesach ends with "next year in Jerusalem"-- in between, Israel is mentioned constantly in prayer an' in traditional chewish songs.
So what's that, chopped liver? That every bit of Jewish learnin' an' prayer is imbued with Israel?! Even us livin' in the diaspora know that much, sheesh. Now if ya think the Ol' Testament (which has zip all ta do with Scofield) is all a "zionist plot" (plotz?) ta convince chews there's some connection when there ain't I'm not sure what ta say.
(cont'd)
5. Quotin' Holocaust-denier nutcase Michael Hoffman an' INSANE Brother Nathanael Kapner (a self-hatin' former chew with a sideshow gimmick goin' "full def con" on chews....) takes Perloff & pals down more than a notch in my book. Hoffman is no more an' expurt on chewish law than Nikole Hanna Jones is on the "her-story" of AmeriKa. Oy. With sources like that ya might as well consult the Bazooka Joe comics inside the gum... I cain't take these fellers seriously given their "sources." OH an' Perloff sez he's consulted WackyPaedia fer his info on Jews--whull golly, he's a real scholar now! (I'm sorry ta be snarky but I thought this man wuz far better informed than he iz---fer a half Chew he ain't too swift at least when it comes ta research)
Heck, in the conversation they even quote the blood libel mentionin' that there are good chews that don't drink blood. WOW, just wow. Jews know that many mis-translations of talmud have led ta some big ass chew-hate. Nobuddy is havin' sex with 3 year olds or sacrificin' folks. Oh an' goyim ain't cattle either. Goyim just mean "other" but that's far less "interestin' "-- an' y'all know that while Christians say only "they" kin go ta heaven (clearly Perloff & pal believe no Jew kin go ta heaven unless they accept Jesus--give up their Judaism...), an' Muslims believe only they kin achieve their heaven (Christians & Chews are damned infidels---but per Perloff & Pal "good" muslims don't believe this...rilly?!) BUT...while this is so fer both these faiths, y'all know that in Judaism EVERYONE kin go ta heaven as long as they are willin' ta foller the 7 Noahide Laws...
I repeat, in Judaism, Christians TOO--Buddhists--all are equal under God an' kin go ta heaven if they foller these laws (which IMO ain't Satanic! at all...)
The seven Noahide laws, as traditionally enumerated are:
Do Not Deny God
Do Not Blaspheme God
Do Not Murder
Do Not Engage in Incestuous, Adulterous or Homosexual Relationships.
Do Not Steal
Do Not Eat of a Live Animal
Establish Courts/Legal System to Ensure Law Obedience
GUESS WHUT--per these laws secular Chews ain't goin' either... no free pass fer 'em. Ta me that sounds FAIR.
(ps there are puhlenty of gay "chews" includin' many who are very religious--an' yup, they're accepted in Israel an I have zero issues with it--all other places in the middle east ya git killed fer it! I'm no authority on how this works with "heaven" 'er not but most gay chews I know are far more like Bari Weiss (& her wife Nellie, a converted Jew)--than the twerkin' pink-haired lgbtq++@## folks that seem ta be the new image of "gay")--a 'nuther story but I'm just sharin' the noahide as it ferbids all the stuff most folks accuse "chews" of doin'... OH an' Perloff also believes Bro' Nathanael that rabbis spit at churches? I. have. no. "woids."
6. 'fore Balfour Israel wuz about 10% chewish--that's without any Brits intervenin'. The argument that b/c many of the foundin' "fathers" of Israel were secular and THEREFORE did not have any religious connection with Israel is absurd. MOST chews did not come ta Israel to worship freely (that's the Hanukkah fight, far older!) but ruther ta have a place to live, a homeland--secular or not. MOST chews that call themselfs Zionists just wanted a homeland--a place ta live in peace. They did NOT know 'bout Rothschilds 'er the likes of Balfour (who actually hated jews) They did not know that as far as England wuz concerned, this wuz 'bout strategic territory an' resources, NOT ABOUT JEWS. Fwiw, France an' the US an' the allies all gave their OK too--all 'fore Israel wuz declared a state ...Truth is most chews that escaped to or move to Israel just wanted a home an' had no clue that some rotten "schtunks" who didn't give a hoot 'bout them (as a people) took advantage of the situation. Heck, most chews were told the land wuz "empty" (oh yes, that lie went 'round fer 'bout a century). So innocent good people happen ta be Zionists fer the "crime" of wantin' a home.
Is NetAn'Yahoo an evil warmonger? YES! Is her murderin' innocents? YES--an' many--(trigger warnin' comin;) GOOD ZIONISTS yes ZIONISTS are mortified an' horrified--they are NOT cheerin' on this maniac but they wring hands, they don't want blood on 'em but as ya know, SPEAKIN' OUT against Herr BeebeeGun is verboten (like you'll be arrested). So I DO NOT think these two fellers who both know SQUAT about Chews are so "assured" bout their bunkery. OK, if they say only Christians'll go to heaven an' only Christians deserve to live in Israel--so be it. But to misstate who chews are--an' only suggest that the ONLY good chews are anti-zionist... to state they have no connection with Israel (b/c they are secular an' Israel is a land've sin... cuz y'know gays are not thrown off buildin's there an' all...) is really douche-baggy. Yup. An' they state with authori-tay they ain't anti-semitic? Wull, I don't like whut the ADL calls anti-semitism (that ADL kin go ta he-double-toothpicks) but while bein' thoughtful Christians this is very anti-Jewish--lumpin' us all together, damin' all ta hell unless we "convert"* more 'r 'less, tellin' us how we worship (assertin' it's talmud not torah an' then mis-definin' it), quotin' Arthur Koestler on Khazaria... Wull, I could go on but I'd need too much terlet paper ta wipe up this mess...
MOST Jews are good people wuther they CALL THEMSELVES Zionists 'er not. MOST chews I know are NOT callin' fer "blood" or fer the killin' of innocents--Hamas, sure, but not innocents--but due ta fukery an' fakery nobuddy the heck knows what is goin' on. The MSM shared bullshart lies from both sides. I'm near-convinced NetAn'Yoohoo wants ta DESTROY Israel (he certainly destroyed any good will fer Jews the world over)--fer the globalists. Most chews in Israel are not rich--many are below middle class--they ain't Rothschilds OR greedy OR money launderin' OR land-grabbin' . Sigh.
Ceila, I know yer good people. I know yer devout in yer faith an' mean well. I'm gonna say sumthin' harsh. Ya missed out an' I sense yer tryin' ta tell yerself ya didn't. Side where ya want in this war but presentin' this "picture" of Jews--an' of Christian Zionists--so belittles both that I have ta think there's a reason. Yer daddy sounds like he was a very kind, good, decent, funny man--an' yup he was a "chew." I dunno if he wuz fully secular 'er not-- but yer havin' missed out on experiencin' any bit of yer Jewish heritage I think makes ya wanna feel certain that... ya didn't miss out. I'm sure ya have nice chewish pals--I know ya only mean well. But I'm seein' so much here that shows no understandin' of Judaism 'er Israel 'er Chewish Identity. An' agin, most Zionists are no better represented by their current rotten government than most Americans are represented by ours. Peace out... an' may there be peace in Israel too one day... Sorry 'bout the rant... this one had me surprised...
Thank you, Celia! I can't help but brag that Jim is a dear friend of mine.