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Marsha Browning's avatar

We all had measles as kids, and chicken pox. It really should be an informed choice rather than fear mongering

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Edmond Paré's avatar

I was born in 1948, 15 years before the first alleged measles 'vaccine' came on the market. I never received that jab, nor the jabs for chicken pox or mumps; and, I never had chicken pox, measles, or mumps. The only vaccines I had early on (in the '50s) were for polio and tetanus. The reason I had the alleged polio 'vaccine' was that my mother had a short bout of polio when she was a kid. The reason I had an alleged tetanus shot was because I stepped on a 16-penny nail as a very young child, which went clear through my foot. As far as I'm concerned, the CDC/FDA can shove their 'vaccine' schedules up where the sun don't shine.

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Julia B's avatar

I had the polio, smallpox and later tetanus vaccines. No measles, chicken pox or mumps. Mother forced me to practically live in my little brother's room determined to infect me with all the crap he was bringing home! The nail in my foot still had the board attached. Kid in the neighborhood loaded me up in his little red wagon and brought me home, board and all. Great childhood, can't complain.

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Edmond Paré's avatar

"...still had the board attached." -- I'm laughing...same with me...and, when it happened, I wasn't old enough yet to attend school. In the military, they made us get all sorts of jabs before being sent overseas. My little yellow jab book history is somewhere up in the barn; and, I really do not want to look at it, knowing what I now know...

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Stephen's avatar

Children during sudden growth periods release toxins that manifest as chicken pox. Our bodies in an effort to heal us force the toxins out through the lungs and nasal passages in the form of snot, mucous, coughing, through the skin via fever sweating in some cases diarrhea , and when the toxin overload is great, through our skin in the form of measles, small pox or chicken pox! We don't have an immune system we have a detoxification and regenerative system! Dis-ease is caused by environmental toxins...for example charts from both the US and UK governments illustrate that the rise and fall of polio mirrored the rise and fall of DDT use! (Read Dissolving Illusions) Virtually all vaccines, if you look at when they were implemented, were when the dis-ease was already in a 95% or greater decline! Vaccines are themselves toxic! As are all manmade chemical treatments! Not one government or independent health agency when presented with FOI request out of over 200... 200 worldwide including the criminal CDC...can produce any research study that has clearly isolated and purified a virus and shown that it causes dis-ease! There is no proof VIRUSES exist! I would suggest reading and or listening to Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Christine Massey, Dr. Stefan Lanka Mike Stone ViroLiegy See where that journey takes you in regard to what I would consider the greatest lie ever told! Ask Grok and when you do ask Grok to answer ask for research that has zero assumptions in its research.

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Edmond Paré's avatar

Thanks...Yes...I'm well aware of all of the above which you wrote. Starting in January of 2021,for at least 18 months, I spent at least 12 hours a day, seven days a week, reading everything I could find on the Plandemic issue. I've since cut my daily time expenditure down to perhaps half that.

Here's the second article I wrote back in 2021 regarding the Plandemic:

The FDA’s “Intentional Malfeasance”: Vaccine Injuries include “Deadly Strokes, Bizarre Rashes, Cardiac Arrest, Blood Clots, Neurological Symptoms

Withholding serious Covid-19 vaccine adverse event outcome information from the medical community, from authorized dispensers, and from all potential Covid-19 vaccine recipients

https://www.globalresearch.ca/do-you-truly-want-end-mandates-then-everyone-must-call-out-fda-withholding-serious-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-event-outcome-information-medical-community-authorized-dispensers-vaccine-recipients/5760435

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rockpicker's avatar

What I hear from the truthteller medical community is a focus on mRNA and spike proteins. What about the graphene? What about the polyethelene? What about the self-assembling nanotechnology and the MAC addresses? How come no one EVER mentions any of these, except Ana Marie Mihalcea and Karen Kingston? If they're quacks, why don't medical professionals say so? If their research is bona fide, why aren't the truthtellers screaming?

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Melissa Amy Green-Kelter's avatar

Good points!! Thank you!

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Edmond Paré's avatar

Who are these "medical professionals" you speak of? What are some of the names of your major "truthtellers" in this "truthteller medical community"? I likely am not paying any attention to them, because I've decided they are relatively irrelevant; but, I'd still like to know who you deem they are. - Thanks.

My truthtellers are people such as Mihalcea, Kingston, Martin, Merritt, Ardis, Group, Ealy, Mikovits, Thomas, Nass, etc. (too many to spend time naming, especially if I get into those outside of the U.S.

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rockpicker's avatar

Your list is my list, and then some: Yeadon, McCullough, Koire, Vanden Bosche, the pathologist from Idaho, (sorry, his name slips me), all heroes! Now, what's in the blood? Hydrogel? Graphene oxide? I want to hear some discussion about what we're being shown through the microscope!

And what precautions have been undertaken to guard the nation's blood supply?

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MusicMan's avatar

Stephen: CORRECT! 100% CORRECT.

So great to see someone who knows reality and how nature works. Thanks for posting. I applaud you 👍

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Hugh's avatar

Your explanation of releasing toxins was the explanation I was asking for. It fits the pattern. From now on I'll be looking at common lifestyle factors in those who manifest these symptoms.

Yet I have one more layer to the puzzle needing an answer. The "vaccine preventable diseases" were less apparent after the particular vaccines were introduced. Two factors were a shift in the symptom pattern subsequent to the immune altering shot and that doctors didn't report the disease if the patient had been vaccinated for it (they were programmed to think it must be something else). But I don't think these explanations fully cover it..

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Melissa Amy Green-Kelter's avatar

Amen and well said!!

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Edmond Paré's avatar

I'll bet that you will live at least as long as your grandparents. (-:

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JamesDuff's avatar

We did as kids boomers we were measles didn’t kill us …. Mumps chicken pox parties.

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Michelle's avatar

I did have chicken pox as a kid, but not measles. I wish I had had measles as a kid. It confers protection as an adult from some cancers.

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Chief Justice of Nuremberg 2.0's avatar

How did you get "Chickenpox"? It has nothing to do with Chickens. The vaccine is the herpes virus or "disease". Why do you need to be injected with herpes as a kid?

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Michelle's avatar

I caught it from my brother. Yes, I know it has nothing to do with chickens, though we did have chickens. He got it from classmates at school. I was never "vaccinated" for chicken pox. "Vaccine" for it did not exist in the 70s. I now believe no kid needs to be vaccinated for anything, but rather, let our God-given immune systems do the job He designed them to do.

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Annie's avatar

I’m well into my seventies. I had the chicken pox ( so did my two older sisters) and none of us died or were harmed. I remember my sister Susi had a small scar from one of the scabs. Went away as Susi grew up.

I’ve had all the childhood diseases that kids now a days have to be vaccinated against. I’m still here and really wish younger people had my growing up experiences when I was a child. Life was much simpler in the 1950’s-70’s.

I’ve had a successful life with all the bells & whistles included.

I miss the simple life Iived as a child/young adult..

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Arlene Johnson's avatar

Wonderful; I could not have written it any better than you did here.

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Valerie Collins's avatar

Right. No one (no animal, no living creature) needs to be injected with any 'vaccine' ever.

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Saoirse's avatar

Can you elaborate on the chicken pox vax is the herpes virus. As a young mom and completely ignorant, my children were vaccinated. I certain they were harmed but could not understand what the cause was. I believed the doctors and system.

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Chief Justice of Nuremberg 2.0's avatar

No, we "all" didn't. You "all" didn't "get Covid" neither. Let me guess: The source of the Measles is "popped out of nowhere"?

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kat dwyer's avatar

Yes, informed choice

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Zara's avatar

Yes, so many awakening now! Celia-thank you for this article!

Another good one dissecting the propaganda & the "science" is from Dr Malik. He came out swinging at first re Rfk jr not immediately putting an end to vax, but has now softened a tad bit (?). https://substack.com/@docmalik/p-158215695

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Nathan's avatar

Measles aren't real (there's a condition that they call Measles, but not by the vector that they claim) and RFK Jr's response is the same community immunity circus show we experienced in the staged, "pandemic." Yes, something was making people sick and it's very convenient that 5G towers were erected while the common folk were locked down. No one seems to know anything about radiation apart from the military and here we are...in a point and click...you get sick dystopia.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Amen Brother Nathan!🙏🏼

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TriTorch's avatar

Yeah...

How the illusion of a pandemic was likely created in 2020 - with lessons learned from the illegal Havana Syndrome experiments - and how they will (probably) create another one this year. To start, notice the correlation between the 5G tower and the coronavirus symbol on Great Britain’s 20 pound note:

https://tritorch.com/degradation/5GOnBrittain20PoundNote.png [image]

The “race to 5G” towers are line of sight directed energy weapons - their precision can target you and you alone inside a crowd of people. In 2020, there was a study in a major journal - now scrubbed from the internet - that found that 5G can induce cold symptoms. As many of you know, Wuhan China was the first city to install 5G and was also ground zero for COVID.

What they were doing to make the pandemic seem real - and this is why these death towers are now installed all over the place - is they were following people around via their cell signature through the 5G grid and zapping them with microwaves to induce COVID symptoms.

This way most people “knew” someone diagnosed with COVID and it made the pandemic feel real (and in a way I guess it was, just from a different attack vector).

They would pick a person from a family, give them “COVID”, and then a week later they would pick someone that person came in contact with and give it to them as well. This occurred with families all over the world, and made the transmission chain plausible.

The 2020 pandemic could have easily been nothing more than a contagion illusion constructed with 5G technology, assaulted victims, backstabbing journalists, baffled doctors, false positive factory PCR testing, and word of mouth.

For more information on how wireless radiation is responsible for pretty much every outbreak of the flu in history (Everytime we get an “upgrade” to our electromatic grid with new wireless communication technologies, an outbreak occurs), watch this phenomenal video by Dr Cowan:

Dr. Tom Cowan: 5G Radio Frequency and the COVID-19 Connection: https://old.bitchute.com/video/LY6dTOr8PW7s [11mins]

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AL's avatar

Yea it’s a poisoning. So ridiculous that people believe this considering the perfect timing for measles to suddenly reappear as soon as RFK started working.

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flummoxed agent Roger W. 🦂's avatar

I don't know if herd immunity is real or not. I'm just 99% sure it's not. But, if you follow the logic of the argument, herd immunity necessitates that humans infect each other. Therefore, any legislation that criminalizes a natural and benefic process is seeking to expand disease and damage people's health, which contradicts the essence of the law.

Not that it's unusual for humans to make laws against nature. Most of our problems stem directly from the abundance of anti-natural norms.

This vice of legislators attacking reality runs so deep and is so prevalent in the culture, that there is a constellation of ideologies fully dedicated to attacking one of the most natural things for human beings, which is private property.

Now, I hope you realize that me calling "private property" a natural thing for humans is clearly a provocation directed at the despots that lurk everywhere. I think they won't bite because despots almost always are huge hypochondriacs, and they try to keep it secret. If they try to argue against private property, they would have to accept that they are being selfish with their fear of infections and germs and parasites and whatnot, even if infectious disease was not possible, not a real thing. And then they would have to argue for a Total global Government with unrestricted power, which is not what they want, because that favors the rich. Arguing against natural law is quite a pickle!

Those who argue against natural law need a very big brain and a lot of experience in sophistry to defend the current legal system, and yet manage to survive its democidal effects. One has to be a vampire to pull this one off.

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LadyM's avatar

I have wondered why children didn't seem to be impacted if the "Covid" symptoms were caused by sensitivity or shock to the initial introduction of 5G? Wouldn't this new source of radiation impact children even more than adults?

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Nathan's avatar

I believe it has to do with a couple of things. Children generally have a faster healing rate than adults and I also believe the radiation is accumulative. The modern adult is less active than adults from 50 years ago so we experience less exercise-induced autophagy (natural detoxing).

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LadyM's avatar

According to AI, "Children are generally considered MORE sensitive to non-ionizing radiation than adults, as their rapidly developing cells are more susceptible to the effects of radiation exposure, eve at low levels; allowing more time for potential radiation-induced health issues to manifest... Children's cells are dividing rapidly, making them more vulnerable to radiation damage during development. Organs in children are still developing, making them more sensitive to radiation exposure."

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Nathan's avatar

"According to AI" isn't the best starting block. It isn't always correct and doesn't dip into any information behind a paywall. That being said, I don't know if any serious study on whether or not high activity levels and the associated exercise-induced autophagy have been carried out. So, in a way, I'm speculating on the subject of process and threat vector. We'd probably agree that adult bodies contain more heavy metals (which are bioaccumulative) and that includes self-assembling nano components which react to 5G signals. I know there are folks out there who think, "smart dust" is nonsense, but if that were true it wouldn't have been studied at length.

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Annie's avatar

Bingo!

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

I had both measles and mumps in the late '50s. My mom, a nurse, laughed at my swollen face (mumps) and bribed me with a dollar if she could take my picture! That's how serious it was. I hate big pharma.

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Steve Nieman's avatar

Humans hold the power. Always have held the power. Just say no to anything you or your family don't want to be a part of. Might there be consequences in the material world? Perhaps. But we're indigenous to the spiritual world. We're here in physicality on temporary duty. The reality of soul and spirit––that you don't want to betray. Consequences there cannot be escaped.

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Celeste Phelan's avatar

Agree!!!

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Andrea Lynn's avatar

Extreme cope. You are in a cult. He’s part of the system. He is no threat to them.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

If he was "no threat" - they wouldn't have tried so hard, to prevent his confirmation - and then 'mousetrap' him, once in office, with stories like this one.

I'm not in "a cult". And I have no illusions - about Bobby - or who any of the alternatives would be, to hold that seat in the Cabinet. Do you think there's someone who we'd get something BETTER out of - that his nomination and confirmation prevented from holding the post? If not - then 'don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good', or at least the marginally better.

If Bobby and Trump aren't living up to what we want from them - the answer is to get out into the streets, and demand better. Get active and put pressure on them, to do what needs to be done. Don't mourn - ORGANIZE.

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el ellop's avatar

They are all two wings of the same bird to create an illusion of choice. If you believe we need government controlling us, there are plenty of better choices. Only they will never be selected. It's all a game with paid actors.

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Stratman60's avatar

That’s correct but people keep on believing a savior is coming to help them. That’s not happening.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Try saying something I haven't been saying, publicly, as a broadcaster - for more than two and a half decades, now, if you want my respect.

What's YOUR SOLUTION? Griping and speculating on the internet?

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Stratman60's avatar

What are you waiting for? Trump is ruling by EO like a king and has surrounded himself with globalist technocrats like Musk, Thiel, Ellison, Altman. and Karp to build a technocracy, and is pushing more mRNA with Stargate. RFK presented himself as something completely different until he went to work for Trump, and now has done a complete 180. You heard it during his hearings. What he just said about MMR is consistent with what he said during those hearings. This has nothing to do with what this article says. He deceived you.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

A) Don't pretend that you know what I'm doing.

B) You appear to lack either the desire, or the intelligence, to properly parse RFK Jr's statements. He says he's for "safe" vaccines. There ARE NONE, at present. He exposed the Vaccine Trials "Placebo" Pyramid Scheme, in his book on Fauci. So he knows this. So his answer was enigmatic, and designed to be interpreted differently by different camps, based upon what they do or don't know.

Now he says that the CHOICE to vaccinate or not, is personal. That's a HUGE achievement for the Vaccine Injury aware movement - that doesn't deserve to be so blithely dismissed, as you appear to be doing. He said it clearly - he wants safety and honest science. Good science, properly publicized, will lead to a less propagandized population - which will lead to better decisions by families, in their own lives. He never said he'd prevent anyone from taking anything. He said he's for informed consent. I see no departure from that.

C) What are YOU DOING? Why are you incorrectly trying to divine what I'm up to, and what I've believed, in the past present or future? Take all that wasted energy, and start the movement that you seem to want me to start. I'll be happy to support you... But LET'S NOT PRETEND that Technocratic Totalitarianism just began on January 20th, 2025. Bill Gates has been deeply involved in US and Global decision-making and covert operations, for decades. Peter Thiel and Elon Musk were part of 'the Paypal Mafia', and been part of the US Intelligence Community for decades. For someone who pretends to be well-informed, it's ODD that you make no acknowledgement of any of this.

Sure, some of what Musk has done I totally disagree with...but not ALL of it. Are you a big USAID-backer?

Try looking at the big picture, and assessing things in an honest and balanced fashion. Try doing yourself - what you think others need to do. Trolling Celia's comments, and making an ass of yourself, with a bunch of foolish assumptions, and poor quality analysis, seems like a poor use of your time.

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rockpicker's avatar

Good points.

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Jack Carone's avatar

They all gave EOs. Grow up.

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Stratman60's avatar

Not like he’s doing it. This sets an extremely dangerous precedent. What keeps the next president from undoing what’s he’s done by EO, and doubling down in the opposite direction? Nothing. Will you be making excuses when that happens and telling those who don’t like it to “grow up”? Of course not. You’ll come unglued and you know it. Don’t be a hypocrite.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

Where was all this concern, when Joe Biden and Obama, were setting the precedents, that Trump is now using?

Do you agree with NOTHING that he's done?

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Stratman60's avatar

Let me get this out of the way. I’m not a democrat or a republican. I’m a voluntaryist. Nobody has a legitimate right to rule over me. I became one when the C19 scam was rolled out and both parties played along. Nobody stood up for me as my business was being destroyed. They’re on the same team and it became obvious in 2020.

I don’t like rule by executive order, period, and you can see it getting worse with each administration. What is congress for if we have a king? This won’t end well.

Do I like anything Trump is doing? On the surface, some of it might seem great, but I know the end game. He’s tearing the system down to replace it with an AI driven technocracy. Why do you think he has surrounded himself with globalist technocrats like I named in a previous comment? Do you think they’ve all suddenly seen the light because of Trump? That’s absurd. Trump is a Trojan Horse. He was brought in because conservatives would never go along with this coup under a democrat, especially a moron like Kamala

That’s what’s going on. I can see it because I haven’t chosen a side so I can look at things objectively. I’m not going to argue with you all night. You see it or you don’t.

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Laura Jacoba's avatar

You are wrong about Bobby, but if you need proof, just wait.

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Stratman60's avatar

Is he pre Trump Bobby, or is he post Trump Bobby? He’s singing a completely different tune now. He was very critical of the Trump shots, now he’s praising Warp Speed. He’s gone from being very critical of vaccine safety to now pushing the MMR jabs. Why didn’t he bring up the safety concerns today? He already has the job and his supporters would have much rather heard that. It doesn’t make any sense. If he can’t tell the truth, he’s useless. If he doesn’t believe what he was saying pre Trump, he’s useless.

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Another WorldView Is Possible's avatar

When did Bobby sing the praises of Operation Warp Speed, or the Lethal Injections? Are you just making shit up? Or are you just poorly documenting your claims - and then upvoting your own comments?

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Stratman60's avatar

He said, and I quote, “Operation Warp Speed was an extraordinary accomplishment”. He said it during his confirmation hearings. Thats easily verifiable. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Controlled opposition Conservative Inc shills don’t want to talk about it. You might want to ask yourself why you don’t know about his comment.

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Zara's avatar

I do not think he deceived anyone. He was interviewing for a job & yes, he said what they & most of the indoctrinated publuc wanted to hear. But he has also ALWAYS said, “NO VACCINE IS SAFE & EFFECTIVE.”

Dr Malik came out swinging at him, too, but here he gives a great look at propaganda & science: https://substack.com/@docmalik/p-158215695

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rockpicker's avatar

How very democratic of you.

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Stratman60's avatar

“Operation Warp Speed was an extraordinary accomplishment”. Yeah. He was set up 🤡

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flummoxed agent Roger W. 🦂's avatar

But, the fact is they can invent any epidemic of any disease they want. They have enabling laws. We live in a permanent state of emergency.

To undo fascism, we need to attack it from many angles. Your enemies want only one opposition with only one voice and only one argument. That's easy to parry. That's why they manipulate you so that you attack your friends, who have been helping you for decades before you were awake.

I humbly recommend to stop listening to your enemies.

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flatpress's avatar

I've never heard of anyone dieing of measles until recently and frankly, I don't believe it. I think we are all aware of deaths being attributed to the wrong cause. It was extremely popular just recently. The mendacity machine is on maximum output as usual. We loved measles when I was a kid. It meant no school. We'd just slap on the calamine lotion and take it easy. The world has lost its mind.

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Matt Schweder's avatar

Maybe he should just get in front of the cameras and announce that more people die from the measles vaccine than from wild measles. It's the absolute truth.

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Ingrid Strewe's avatar

After all that RKK Jr has been though, and all that vax sceptics have been though, he must have been expecting an ambush and we should have too. Cool heads must prevail. The Highwire last Thursday Episode 413 did a very good explication of the whole measles deal. Well worth a listen.

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Notyou's avatar

Over the target 🎯

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Jennifer McNulty's avatar

He is not going to consider resigning.

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Dawn B's avatar

They do these events to instill fear in the people and it flawlessly controls them.

However, more and more people are not falling for their BS.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Celia and everyone: Measles is highly transmissible; it does not need crafting. "Do not let a crisis go to waste" and if anything gin it up. That's what we are seeing.

Next it will be pertussis or mumps. "They" you mention have a 24/7 PR machine ready to deploy on anything that will make it difficult for RFK Jr. to focus on the task at hand.

A little "Keep the Faith" is appropriate.

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Gloria S's avatar

We had mumps, measles, and chicken pox and we’re still alive. Fear is a huge money maker.

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Vee's avatar

Seriously? How about this is the perfect opportunity for RFK Jr to man up and slap down this nonsense like Dr. Ryan Cole did with one single comment?

"The number of deaths caused by medical error is estimated to be 250,000 times more than the current average deaths attributed to measles. Where is the media on that coverage?" (Source: https://x.com/drcole12/status/1895990875899207799)

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R!CKYRANTS's avatar

Or maybe RFK is there to be divide the masses and never really challenge vaccines/mRNA.

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Sally's avatar

I also had measles and apparently chicken pox, these are NOT dangerous..measles vaccine SPREADS measles..hence the outbreaks

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