I think the danger to the “West” as a result of this Carlson-Putin interview lies in the mere fact that Putin uses language to issue meaning, and we just do not do that in Biden’s America.
I thought it was great. I know that the US started the Ukraine war. Obama went over and created a coup in 2014. Burns me up. The military industrial complex with CIA is destroying our country. All our presidents and politicians are run by them except Trump AND they cheated him out of there. It is truly horrifying. Americans are so ignorant to believe the media. We are dumbed down . We are used as pawns. Get educated and get your children out of woke schools and teach them history yourselves. We are self destructing in this country. I pray about it all the time. Evil Demons are all over DC. Just look at it…. I hope you know how to pray because we need God back in America… Narcissism and ignorance has present control of our nation. 🙏🙏🙏
There was one US President who fired the CIA director, and was considering shutting down the CIA. So they murdered him. 60 years later the American public is still not allowed to see the documents related to that murder.
I'm not a Trump groupie at all, not one to defend him, but I don't think it's possible for cabinet positions to be anyone but swamp creatures because all of these nominations have to be approved by the corrupt and swampy Senate. Although we are told that the President gets to choose his cabinet, I don't think that's how it works in reality. From listening to attorney Robert Barnes and "Sundance" over at conservativetreehouse, who both seem to have a good handle on domestic politics and what goes on behind the scenes, Mitch McConnell is much more powerful than people realize (and I'd assume the same holds true for Schumer), in that he was really in control over who gets approved in the Senate. So, if Trump nominated someone like Catherine Austin Fitts for Treasury, McConnell would simply say "nope, can't get her approved, but here's a list of Wall Street connected swamp rats who I can get approved." So, as long as the corrupt Senate has to approve cabinet positions, I don't think there is any way of having anybody swamp creatures, so there's no way of taking back the govt, no matter who gets in there. There's no way the corrupt Senate would ever approve of someone for Sec of Defense who is not controlled by or beholden to the MIC. Same for nominations for FDA, HHS, CDC, etc- there's no way they would ever let anyone in there who is not owned by big-pharma.
So, all of that is to say, I don't see how we could ever take this country back- in addition to getting a "good guy" in there as President, we would also have to get enough "good guys" in the Senate, and our behind-the-scenes rulers would never allow that.
(And I think the same general idea happened with Obama--he was apparently given the list of approved people for his cabinet from Citibank).
Yes! Obama was groomed to be President years before he was voted in. He had a script and followed it. We can turn this country around, if people would pay attention to who owns this country. We have forgotten that God gave us this country, and we based our foundation on Christian principles for our Constitution and all laws. Without that we would have crumbled many years ago. We are a country of many cultures, and our constitution created respect for all and the same laws for all. Of course bad things occurred, but good people kept us fairly on right path, but then something EVil gradually began seeping in after WW2 ….. President Eisenhower warned us of the Industrial Military complex with CIA. Satan got a foothold in America, and the rest is history. They killed Kennedy and pushed God and prayer away. Many Americans did not thank God for their wonderful blessings in our country.,Many in America have no clue who God is. Politicians then sold their souls to Satan for money/greed, and here we are today being run by traitors in DC. We did not pay attention😢🙏
While I like the spirit of your message, I disagree that our constitution and laws were founded on Christian principles. Sadly I'm afraid they were very much founded on Luciferian principles.
Christian principles imply that Christ is king and that law is divine and eternal.
We got laws derived from rational philosophy which is what we invented to attempt to replace God after eating the apple.
Which is, of course, why we have ended up where we have.
I happen to love Trump. He isn’t a politician and he loves America like Putin loves Russia. He could have given in a long time ago and we would have sunk sooner. He had no clue about the level of evil in DC. None. Satan sits at the top. The years he was president he worked 24/7 to do all he could to build up America and be fair to all. If you know truth you would want Trump as president. If he doesn’t win, that will be the end of America! Period. That is why they hate him so. When you go to get heart surgery, do you want the nice, kind surgeon who is good OR do you want the surgeon who knows he’s great and who is brilliant and wins! I want the brilliant one working on my heart. It’s not about personality. It’s about results and not being evil!!!! Trump is not evil..! I’m praying for him every day!
Senator Mike Lee of Utah refers to his fellow Senators McConnell and Schumer as ‘The Firm’…they decide what does and does not happen in the Senate…what bills get brought to the floor, the ‘language’ in these bills, who gets ‘anointed’ and who gets shuttled off into some obscure ‘committee’. Those two have got to go.
It's all a sham. Whoever is related to King John of Englad will "win." Remember, it's ALWAYS the opposite of what they say, "your vote counts," build back better," "hope," make america great again," and one of the biggest crimes, "safe & effective."
I guess it depends on who, theoretically anyway, has the potential to take control. NOTA is 100% bureaucrat control, so I guess there isn't a lot to lose in the long run by voting.
I think Tucker was a long way out of his depth. His lack of education and his mind controlled intolerance was an embarrassment. His behaviour was disrespectful bordering on offensive, but Putin, to his credit, worked out the inadequacies of the man very early in the piece and worked out how to deal with him without taking or showing offense. I was cringing for much of this exchange.
I have a similar take to yours regarding the use of language. I was a technical and business writer. I use language to communicate. Occasionally employers would ask me to write marketing copy and I refused every time as my skill set does not include using language to persuade, let alone using language to obfuscate.
But although use of language was an issue, ignorance and arrogance was a bigger one. Tucker was too disrespectful to do his homework. I personally have watched/listened to many Putin speeches over many years, and I know, understand and appreciate his thoughtfulness. I also know much of the history and context he attempted to communicate to a closed mind. But Tucker did not bother to learn about the man he was supposedly interviewing and his ignorance showed.
One thing to consider about Americans is just how little context many have with which to understand the rest of the world (if they have not lived outside America for any period of time). The last Bret and Heather podcast was also cringe-worthy in the way they spoke about David Icke. They demonstrated that they have no capacity to grasp their very junior place in the conspiracy world and thus that they have no right to impose their world view on those who have put in the years that they have not. They too, were utterly arrogant and disrespectful.
Two cinge-worthy videos in two days - is too much.
Many appreciate Tucker (I do), but he was owned by Vlad.
That’s okay. We learned much.
We North Americans truly are innovative, creative, and exuberant, and a great credit to the world in our short time on its stage, but there are dynastic world-views that overshadow us and make us look the teenagers we are.
I think Tucker does know a fair amount about the history of Russia and the Ukraine conflict. However, he had to take a somewhat confrontational stance with Putin so as to pre-empt charges from critics here in the US that he was serving as a Russian asset. I think he was aware of the variety of pressures and projections he was courting by meeting with Putin and therefore felt he had to strike an attitude that was not that of his ususal relaxed jovial Maine outdoorsman, but somewhat awkward.
Christine I agree completely. Cringed the whole time for Tucker. Putin's history lesson was absolutely necessary. He was trying to get us to see the difference between our culture and his, which is much deeper and consequential. The little story of the soldiers near the end was a mind-blower which proves his reverence for both Russians and Ukrainians.
This is an excellent analysis/set of observations but it also made me wonder—this is not meant in any way as a defense but I think Tucker was also acting a part. I know he knows a lot of that history & I think, in a way, that he was playing the rube in order to create a certain antagonism in which Putin's difference would stand out even more starkly. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that's my gut feeling...
I agree that Tucker was acting an American-audience part, portraying the questions an American who watches TV might well ask, with the embedded assumptions. Putin elegantly teased that all out.
Tucker always plays the rube, which is why I call him Tucker Mother Fucker. Don't mean to offend but that's what he does. He always plays with his guests, so to speak.
I love Tucker❣️. I’m grateful he got the interview , and we could hear Putin. But you are correct; however, I learned a lot and Putin did understand where Tucker was coming from -more than Tucker understood where Putin was coming from.
I was bothered that no specific mention was made that the 'special operation' was, in part, necessitated in response to McCain and Graham implementing the funding of U.S. weapons shipments to the Western Ukrainian neonazis who then used those armaments to shell Eastern Ukraine civilians, killing around 14,000 of them from 2014 to the start of the special operation. I believe Carlson and his team may be clueless to this fact. The statement of facts such as this is necessary for equally clueless Americans to begin to understand the complicity and depravity of the U.S. government with regard to this situation.
I'm right there with you Christine. Tucker's performance was almost as cringey as Megan Kelley's interview of President Putin several years earlier. I felt embarrassed for Tucker. President Putin has every pundit and politician in the West outclassed by orders of magnitude.
Haven't seen yet, but appreciate this thoughtful critique in advance. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the way it played out (or appeared to). I know he may not be "current," or "in" with the "freedom" movement, and would probably be blasted by many as a "leftist" (even though he voted for Ron Paul in 2012), but I enjoyed Oliver Stone's book and video interviews with Putin, both done shortly after he produced "Ukraine on Fire" EIGHT years ago, less than two years after the coup. Curious if Tucker has seen/read.
I recall thinking the Oliver Stone interview was good although without watching it again I am reluctant to say so out loud. I do recall being bothered by his prejudice at times, but I also know I did not cringe all the way through like I did with this interview. With or without prejudice and ignorance, he was utterly incapable of working with the absolute gems Putin gave him, which simply means he is NOT a good interviewer.
Christine, I have been thinking this all morning. I agree with you. Tucker is not a good interviewer. He is all kinds of other things though, and he can bring out great speech formations from people, but interviewer is a different art form and requires deep hearing. Hard to explain but you have explained it.
yeah, it's surprising and sad that Tucker didn't do his homework. How could he not know about Ukrainian history? How could he not know about Boris Johnson telling Zelensky to scuttle the peace talks.
it occurred to me while watching.... who will be the audience for this? A well-informed American audience? Or a typical, not-well-informed American audience? (or an audience outside of the US?). If Tucker came across as super well-informed (whether he is or is not), wouldn't that have been weird -- might really cause confusion in unawakened minds. This way, if you are uninformed, you could relate to Tucker's ignorance and just listen.
Well, the famous CBC in Canada already wrote a new about the interview. This is the same CBC that did not bother to write any news about the huge freedom trucker convoy. Like cowards, they refused to do their job reporting what was happening in Ottawa. Is there any wonder nobody trust them anymore? But as soon as the interview was made public like little rabbits looking for a carrot, they wrote imediately a news about it. But the giant freedom trucker convoy was not news worthy for them. If you are CBC journalists reading my message you should be ashamed of yourself. You lost our trust forever.
Tucker’s body language appeared uninterested in the history lesson after the first 5 min. Whether he was prepared or not, I can’t know, but I sensed he was really trying hard to focus and asking himself, when is Putin going to stop talking? Where is he going with this? My impression was Putin wanted to be sure the American audience heard & understood the history lesson. All we are ever told is that the Russians are to blame for everything. Overall, I was impressed with Putin, but not so much with Tucker. Although, I like/enjoy Tucker. I must confess I had to look at a map while following along with the history lesson. I was never great with Geography. Lol
Amy, you’re so right. That makes sense and now seems so obvious. I didn’t consider that. I’m sure that played a part. This is why I enjoy reading the comments. Different perspectives/observations. Thx you.
Just as it should be, TC was the medium, VVP was the message. Unusual for the public who have become accustomed to theatrical abnormality in "interviews".
...and how could he not have listened to other speeches and interviews with Putin where he has explained, ad infinitum, why he went into Ukraine when he went into Ukraine.
I’m sure Tucker did the homework. He had to ask the questions, even if he knew the answers. I imagine Tucker is trying to wake up at least a few of the Ukrainian flag bearers who really have no idea why they support (ed) Ukraine.
Yeah, Heather and Brett turned out to be a BIG disappointment for me. I tried listening regularly to their podcasts, but Heather's continued "enthusiasm" for vaccines is disconcerting. Didn't she read Turtles All The Way Down?
I also was shocked by Tucker’s dullness, I had thought he was much better informed. He came off as such a tyro! Fortunately, Putin was very gracious and did most of the talking artfully and kindly instead of knocking him out every five minutes.
When the capacity to think is required, western politicians crumble like a dried cracker; that is the danger the west faces. President Putin fits his role well, he is the leader of a people who have deep roots in their lands. It's an enlightening interview.
I believe you bring up an important point: the connectedness the Russians have to their land and their history. I don't think the same can be said for people in the US. Maybe there's some sense of being connected to our history, but to the land, not so much. Me personally, I value that connection. It's something all indigenous people have, they know they are of the earth, part of the earth. We in the West, we've lost that to a large degree.
I had a feeling it would be disappointing and not revealing.
It makes sense now. I have yet to watch it, too many things on my plate today!
The negotiation was known for quite a while actually I remember when it was happening and it got cut down and I thought that's crazy they sent Johnson personally to stop it... They didn't think of a video call to lay it on the line what the west wants? Perhaps play acting to continue the war?
After all, Russia took years to stop the constant shelling of Eastern Ukraine by the west.
If anyone wants to learn more about the Putin administration, please check out this substack. It's honest, he pointed out how Putin allowed for mandates and let an untested sputnik shot that's also dangerous to be official. Oh and a lot of promotion of digital ID and CBDCs!
The problem is that Tucker used to be the guy that asked the inconvinient questions that challenge things. Why the heck did he not ask Putin about the push for CBDC in russia or the covid scam which they also followed like the west did, with their own special sauce.
It matters not. He offered a pure American response.
In the process we were given a lesson in another worldview - 1000++ years old - the intense complexity of its geography, history and faith.
Interesting that he referred several times to 988, the year of baptism of the Russian people under Prince Volodomir. Clearly, this is crucial to an innate Kiev / Rus attachment to orthodoxy.
The nationalize oil / gas revenue is key to a functional socialist regime without extracting from the citizenry . I think it's only 10% and some marginal taxes. In Canada it's about 80% of your income. Sales taxes+income taxes & gov.retirement saving. Most people in Canada have a fix income the inflation is decimating everyone. Unless you are on the Gov payroll . . .
Any tech involving math you will find a Russian leading the field. VVP warned about Bio-Engineering((Eugenics)). It's the Anglo wet dream . . . selling / designing human for pleasure and profit. More slavery ?
Tucker was definitely out of his element. It felt like it was another Tucker doing the interview. That was a strange feeling. Putin came out as the winner. He was able to control the entire interview. Then he did something that was ugly: told the world that Tucker wanted to work for the CIA. Why would he do that? To humiliate him, to embarrass him? If he would have left that part out he may have looked like a gentleman. I believe that comment was a great mistake. People love Tucker, and they won't easily forgive Putin for that. And Mr. Putin should know that very well.
I see your point but I am not sure I agree with "ugly." It was however…well, it stood out. Tucker did the same to him, the part about "Germany" but it was way more veiled. spy stuff?
You: "Putin...told the world that Tucker wanted to work for the CIA. Why would he do that?"
Perhaps because Putin's possibly good intentions are often denied on the basis of him being a former KGB intelligece officer? So, how could Putin ever have good intentions?
yes, we knew about Johnson. This happened only weeks after the war began. They were close to an agreement, so the US sent in Johnson to tell Zelensky no no no no, you cannot end this yet, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men must die first, hundreds of thousands of Russian men must die first. My God, the war mongers in the US, UK, and NATO have so much blood on their hands, will they in a thousand years ever be able to wash themselves clean?
Tucker obviously doesn't understand the importance of the history of the area, or the significance of the Nazi presence there for the last eighty-five years, and their collaboration with the OSS and later the CIA throughout that time period. He didn't do his homework. Putin's answers may enlighten a few people though.
That's exactly why Putin did this. For the last 14 years the EU genius have been trying to rewrite history . . . So bizZzard . OH i forgot There is no truth the post modernist are in control.
Yeah he's delusional , it[UA war] was a big deflection from Covid scrutiny, his dad is an eugenicist. They have high opinion of themselves. He think he's Churchill , not Zelenskyy. It's a misdirection.
I read the transcript and it only solidified my support of Russia and President Putin.
I liked the warning to the Biden boob heads that Russia leads the world in hypersonic missiles. NATO has no defense against these missiles that can have nuclear warheads attached. The west had better rein in the CIA now or the US will eat one of these missiles.
I’ve come across the lorem text elsewhere, too. If I recall correctly, it’s a standard space filler of nonsense text used when typesetting a document before the final edition.
I rarely watch videos, but I watched all 2+ hours of this with great interest.
I am not certain that Tucker "was out of his depth", but he is quite talented at completely channeling a certain kind of typical American attitude, which he channeled into his questioning style.
Tucker represented some form of typical American as a public service. He tried to get Putin to say things which he would not say himself, tried unsuccessfully.
Putin demonstrates a form of deeply competent statesmanship and propriety. He walks up to the point of propriety in all discussions of "partners" in the world, and waits there for them to decide what they would like to do next. He will not quote their private comments to him, and prefers to merely allude to situations which display the powerlessness of the officeholder of the US Presidency. The CIA rates as tactically successful, but strategically misguided, winning battles, but causing the loss of the $US (now underway).
Putin tells a real story of a member of a platoon of doomed, surrounded Ukrainian soldiers, when urged to surrender and live, by the Russian forces surrounding them. The men chose to die fighting, and shouted back their answer in Russian, to the offer of their lives, "Russians do not surrender!"
Your reaction is so illuminating, Celia. When someone actually uses language to issue meaning, I listen intently. I found the interview riveting and learned some things, even though I was already familiar with most of what Putin talked about. When people use language as a weapon of hypnosis, persuasion and/or social control, I tune out. Thank you!
I'm only halfway through the interview and I've got to say Carson is looking rather sheepish. Celia you are probably right about him being a bit over his head. Just after Tucker asked him about suing for peace, didn't he know that the Russians had tried? and Zelensky had his security forces gun down their own Peace negotiator!
I love the history lessons!
I'm pretty disgusted with our so-called leaders, Bushes et al. (friends with the Clintons)
Rght on...Putin essentially took the US vis a vis TC to school and destroyed any reason for our involvement in Ukraine,IMV..Condoleezza Rice never struck me as trustworthy...having seen her speak in Chicago. Putin seemed to have affirmed that.
Putin kept making that point throughout...regardless of the player.
Bill Clinton as well...turning around and bombing Belgrade. Was it worth it? The city is still in shambles and too broke to rebuild once beautiful buildings. His comments re: Serbia were interesting.
The bombshell IS the double cross of the peace treaty efforts regarding Ukraine. Completely correct.
To my mind..Putin was signaling all over the place. Trump would have been his mettle..but this was not that. Tucker often misses the depth or knowledge factor, unsurprisingly..but Putin would have easily assessed this going in (and decided what he wanted us to all hear). We all could.
Where he was going with the history lesson was clear from the start.. given the double cross over the 2014 Minsk agreement: to build his case for bringing parts of Ukraine back under their umbrella under the guise of nationalism and patriotism to history.
The question I did like was the Nordstream blow up that Seymour Hersh speaks to. Germany's position on this is perplexing..as he suggested.
I would have also liked questions on the bio-labs the US supposedly funds in Ukraine as someone already mentioned.
Putin played this well I thought.
I kept thinking if Putin calls Biden (as TC kept pushing)..would he/could he get a complete sentence as an answer.
Completely agree with and wonder if you were listening on the conversation between my husband and myself!
You only missed out on the "who is (name of journalist imprisoned)? oh, that guy" and "No, all of American is not talking about (that guy)". That Tucker kept ragging on about that at the end was, for me, somewhat oddly childish or false ignorance of a "why not let him go". An insincerity on Tucker's part. Had he prefaced it with a "As a journalist...do I have anything to be worried about..." perhaps it's introduction might have be acceptable. I think, now, he may have done it as a type of AmericanNewsMedia appeasement or a small way of trying to signal to them...something.
You make a good point. I had no idea who this journalist was or is and while Tucker was kept going on about it, I was wondering about the military individual who is still there and not released when the US basketball player was brought home as the first priority of a prisoner exchange.
I kept remembering that guychick basketball player when he brought that up, too. I wanted to say, "Tucker, you are interfering in the negotiations that Putin's men are working out." He may have caused the guy's release to be delayed. Of course, we will never know.
Amen brother . The Dulles brothers Nazi enterprise. It's crazy how no one ever bring up the Bush family nazi background. When the Eagle landed on the moon ; it's fair to ask whose eagle? which Reich ? (thnx to paperclip)
I thought it was great. I know that the US started the Ukraine war. Obama went over and created a coup in 2014. Burns me up. The military industrial complex with CIA is destroying our country. All our presidents and politicians are run by them except Trump AND they cheated him out of there. It is truly horrifying. Americans are so ignorant to believe the media. We are dumbed down . We are used as pawns. Get educated and get your children out of woke schools and teach them history yourselves. We are self destructing in this country. I pray about it all the time. Evil Demons are all over DC. Just look at it…. I hope you know how to pray because we need God back in America… Narcissism and ignorance has present control of our nation. 🙏🙏🙏
There was one US President who fired the CIA director, and was considering shutting down the CIA. So they murdered him. 60 years later the American public is still not allowed to see the documents related to that murder.
The "Evil Demons" are all over the country.
I'm not a Trump groupie at all, not one to defend him, but I don't think it's possible for cabinet positions to be anyone but swamp creatures because all of these nominations have to be approved by the corrupt and swampy Senate. Although we are told that the President gets to choose his cabinet, I don't think that's how it works in reality. From listening to attorney Robert Barnes and "Sundance" over at conservativetreehouse, who both seem to have a good handle on domestic politics and what goes on behind the scenes, Mitch McConnell is much more powerful than people realize (and I'd assume the same holds true for Schumer), in that he was really in control over who gets approved in the Senate. So, if Trump nominated someone like Catherine Austin Fitts for Treasury, McConnell would simply say "nope, can't get her approved, but here's a list of Wall Street connected swamp rats who I can get approved." So, as long as the corrupt Senate has to approve cabinet positions, I don't think there is any way of having anybody swamp creatures, so there's no way of taking back the govt, no matter who gets in there. There's no way the corrupt Senate would ever approve of someone for Sec of Defense who is not controlled by or beholden to the MIC. Same for nominations for FDA, HHS, CDC, etc- there's no way they would ever let anyone in there who is not owned by big-pharma.
So, all of that is to say, I don't see how we could ever take this country back- in addition to getting a "good guy" in there as President, we would also have to get enough "good guys" in the Senate, and our behind-the-scenes rulers would never allow that.
(And I think the same general idea happened with Obama--he was apparently given the list of approved people for his cabinet from Citibank).
Yes! Obama was groomed to be President years before he was voted in. He had a script and followed it. We can turn this country around, if people would pay attention to who owns this country. We have forgotten that God gave us this country, and we based our foundation on Christian principles for our Constitution and all laws. Without that we would have crumbled many years ago. We are a country of many cultures, and our constitution created respect for all and the same laws for all. Of course bad things occurred, but good people kept us fairly on right path, but then something EVil gradually began seeping in after WW2 ….. President Eisenhower warned us of the Industrial Military complex with CIA. Satan got a foothold in America, and the rest is history. They killed Kennedy and pushed God and prayer away. Many Americans did not thank God for their wonderful blessings in our country.,Many in America have no clue who God is. Politicians then sold their souls to Satan for money/greed, and here we are today being run by traitors in DC. We did not pay attention😢🙏
While I like the spirit of your message, I disagree that our constitution and laws were founded on Christian principles. Sadly I'm afraid they were very much founded on Luciferian principles.
Christian principles imply that Christ is king and that law is divine and eternal.
We got laws derived from rational philosophy which is what we invented to attempt to replace God after eating the apple.
Which is, of course, why we have ended up where we have.
I happen to love Trump. He isn’t a politician and he loves America like Putin loves Russia. He could have given in a long time ago and we would have sunk sooner. He had no clue about the level of evil in DC. None. Satan sits at the top. The years he was president he worked 24/7 to do all he could to build up America and be fair to all. If you know truth you would want Trump as president. If he doesn’t win, that will be the end of America! Period. That is why they hate him so. When you go to get heart surgery, do you want the nice, kind surgeon who is good OR do you want the surgeon who knows he’s great and who is brilliant and wins! I want the brilliant one working on my heart. It’s not about personality. It’s about results and not being evil!!!! Trump is not evil..! I’m praying for him every day!
Senator Mike Lee of Utah refers to his fellow Senators McConnell and Schumer as ‘The Firm’…they decide what does and does not happen in the Senate…what bills get brought to the floor, the ‘language’ in these bills, who gets ‘anointed’ and who gets shuttled off into some obscure ‘committee’. Those two have got to go.
They're all criminals. Start the movement of RECALL THEM ALL
They all work for lucifer.
For one thing, your innuendo re: Epstein/Trump is baseless. So, textbook innuendo, and nothing but.
Do you have a better valid option?
It's all a sham. Whoever is related to King John of Englad will "win." Remember, it's ALWAYS the opposite of what they say, "your vote counts," build back better," "hope," make america great again," and one of the biggest crimes, "safe & effective."
https://www.elitedaily.com/news/world/12-year-girl-discovers-president-related
You got ir! Regarding presidents, at first report I heard it was two. Van Buren, and Kennedy, but I have heard Kenendy, maybe not.
That would leave it all to the unelected, over-paid, and not too intelligent bureaucrats. Is that what you prefer?
I guess it depends on who, theoretically anyway, has the potential to take control. NOTA is 100% bureaucrat control, so I guess there isn't a lot to lose in the long run by voting.
Really really horrible take on how that went! Do better-think a little deeper! Maybe shoot your tv!
Great idea, the "boob tube" is one of their best tools.
I hope you are not saying what I thought I read🙃
I think Tucker was a long way out of his depth. His lack of education and his mind controlled intolerance was an embarrassment. His behaviour was disrespectful bordering on offensive, but Putin, to his credit, worked out the inadequacies of the man very early in the piece and worked out how to deal with him without taking or showing offense. I was cringing for much of this exchange.
I have a similar take to yours regarding the use of language. I was a technical and business writer. I use language to communicate. Occasionally employers would ask me to write marketing copy and I refused every time as my skill set does not include using language to persuade, let alone using language to obfuscate.
But although use of language was an issue, ignorance and arrogance was a bigger one. Tucker was too disrespectful to do his homework. I personally have watched/listened to many Putin speeches over many years, and I know, understand and appreciate his thoughtfulness. I also know much of the history and context he attempted to communicate to a closed mind. But Tucker did not bother to learn about the man he was supposedly interviewing and his ignorance showed.
One thing to consider about Americans is just how little context many have with which to understand the rest of the world (if they have not lived outside America for any period of time). The last Bret and Heather podcast was also cringe-worthy in the way they spoke about David Icke. They demonstrated that they have no capacity to grasp their very junior place in the conspiracy world and thus that they have no right to impose their world view on those who have put in the years that they have not. They too, were utterly arrogant and disrespectful.
Two cinge-worthy videos in two days - is too much.
Many appreciate Tucker (I do), but he was owned by Vlad.
That’s okay. We learned much.
We North Americans truly are innovative, creative, and exuberant, and a great credit to the world in our short time on its stage, but there are dynastic world-views that overshadow us and make us look the teenagers we are.
Great comment Donna
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I think Tucker does know a fair amount about the history of Russia and the Ukraine conflict. However, he had to take a somewhat confrontational stance with Putin so as to pre-empt charges from critics here in the US that he was serving as a Russian asset. I think he was aware of the variety of pressures and projections he was courting by meeting with Putin and therefore felt he had to strike an attitude that was not that of his ususal relaxed jovial Maine outdoorsman, but somewhat awkward.
I totally agree medialwoman. Well said. I thought that, too
Christine I agree completely. Cringed the whole time for Tucker. Putin's history lesson was absolutely necessary. He was trying to get us to see the difference between our culture and his, which is much deeper and consequential. The little story of the soldiers near the end was a mind-blower which proves his reverence for both Russians and Ukrainians.
This is an excellent analysis/set of observations but it also made me wonder—this is not meant in any way as a defense but I think Tucker was also acting a part. I know he knows a lot of that history & I think, in a way, that he was playing the rube in order to create a certain antagonism in which Putin's difference would stand out even more starkly. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that's my gut feeling...
I agree that Tucker was acting an American-audience part, portraying the questions an American who watches TV might well ask, with the embedded assumptions. Putin elegantly teased that all out.
Yes, exactly what I think I was trying to say, like he was playing the "average viewer..."
Tucker always plays the rube, which is why I call him Tucker Mother Fucker. Don't mean to offend but that's what he does. He always plays with his guests, so to speak.
I agree Amiel
Thanks!
I love Tucker❣️. I’m grateful he got the interview , and we could hear Putin. But you are correct; however, I learned a lot and Putin did understand where Tucker was coming from -more than Tucker understood where Putin was coming from.
I was bothered that no specific mention was made that the 'special operation' was, in part, necessitated in response to McCain and Graham implementing the funding of U.S. weapons shipments to the Western Ukrainian neonazis who then used those armaments to shell Eastern Ukraine civilians, killing around 14,000 of them from 2014 to the start of the special operation. I believe Carlson and his team may be clueless to this fact. The statement of facts such as this is necessary for equally clueless Americans to begin to understand the complicity and depravity of the U.S. government with regard to this situation.
Little detail.
I utterly agree.
Agree about the Weinstein’s but disagree about Tucker. It was a very brave thing for him to do given how evil our government is now.
I'm right there with you Christine. Tucker's performance was almost as cringey as Megan Kelley's interview of President Putin several years earlier. I felt embarrassed for Tucker. President Putin has every pundit and politician in the West outclassed by orders of magnitude.
Haven't seen yet, but appreciate this thoughtful critique in advance. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the way it played out (or appeared to). I know he may not be "current," or "in" with the "freedom" movement, and would probably be blasted by many as a "leftist" (even though he voted for Ron Paul in 2012), but I enjoyed Oliver Stone's book and video interviews with Putin, both done shortly after he produced "Ukraine on Fire" EIGHT years ago, less than two years after the coup. Curious if Tucker has seen/read.
I recall thinking the Oliver Stone interview was good although without watching it again I am reluctant to say so out loud. I do recall being bothered by his prejudice at times, but I also know I did not cringe all the way through like I did with this interview. With or without prejudice and ignorance, he was utterly incapable of working with the absolute gems Putin gave him, which simply means he is NOT a good interviewer.
Christine, I have been thinking this all morning. I agree with you. Tucker is not a good interviewer. He is all kinds of other things though, and he can bring out great speech formations from people, but interviewer is a different art form and requires deep hearing. Hard to explain but you have explained it.
yeah, it's surprising and sad that Tucker didn't do his homework. How could he not know about Ukrainian history? How could he not know about Boris Johnson telling Zelensky to scuttle the peace talks.
it occurred to me while watching.... who will be the audience for this? A well-informed American audience? Or a typical, not-well-informed American audience? (or an audience outside of the US?). If Tucker came across as super well-informed (whether he is or is not), wouldn't that have been weird -- might really cause confusion in unawakened minds. This way, if you are uninformed, you could relate to Tucker's ignorance and just listen.
Well, the famous CBC in Canada already wrote a new about the interview. This is the same CBC that did not bother to write any news about the huge freedom trucker convoy. Like cowards, they refused to do their job reporting what was happening in Ottawa. Is there any wonder nobody trust them anymore? But as soon as the interview was made public like little rabbits looking for a carrot, they wrote imediately a news about it. But the giant freedom trucker convoy was not news worthy for them. If you are CBC journalists reading my message you should be ashamed of yourself. You lost our trust forever.
Once you know that CBC is state-paid, it makes sense.
All news, everywhere is state run. Instead of bowing before their portraits of Mao, they all have their portraits of their father, the devil.
Which, I believe, is why the interview is state theatre.
Tucker’s body language appeared uninterested in the history lesson after the first 5 min. Whether he was prepared or not, I can’t know, but I sensed he was really trying hard to focus and asking himself, when is Putin going to stop talking? Where is he going with this? My impression was Putin wanted to be sure the American audience heard & understood the history lesson. All we are ever told is that the Russians are to blame for everything. Overall, I was impressed with Putin, but not so much with Tucker. Although, I like/enjoy Tucker. I must confess I had to look at a map while following along with the history lesson. I was never great with Geography. Lol
Agree, but also wonder about how the audio/translation technology might have been effecting the overall focus on the content.
Amy, you’re so right. That makes sense and now seems so obvious. I didn’t consider that. I’m sure that played a part. This is why I enjoy reading the comments. Different perspectives/observations. Thx you.
comments are my favorite part.
Just as it should be, TC was the medium, VVP was the message. Unusual for the public who have become accustomed to theatrical abnormality in "interviews".
...and how could he not have listened to other speeches and interviews with Putin where he has explained, ad infinitum, why he went into Ukraine when he went into Ukraine.
I’m sure Tucker did the homework. He had to ask the questions, even if he knew the answers. I imagine Tucker is trying to wake up at least a few of the Ukrainian flag bearers who really have no idea why they support (ed) Ukraine.
Yeah, Heather and Brett turned out to be a BIG disappointment for me. I tried listening regularly to their podcasts, but Heather's continued "enthusiasm" for vaccines is disconcerting. Didn't she read Turtles All The Way Down?
I also was shocked by Tucker’s dullness, I had thought he was much better informed. He came off as such a tyro! Fortunately, Putin was very gracious and did most of the talking artfully and kindly instead of knocking him out every five minutes.
When the capacity to think is required, western politicians crumble like a dried cracker; that is the danger the west faces. President Putin fits his role well, he is the leader of a people who have deep roots in their lands. It's an enlightening interview.
Hillary Clinton is a useless idiot!
I believe you bring up an important point: the connectedness the Russians have to their land and their history. I don't think the same can be said for people in the US. Maybe there's some sense of being connected to our history, but to the land, not so much. Me personally, I value that connection. It's something all indigenous people have, they know they are of the earth, part of the earth. We in the West, we've lost that to a large degree.
not the history Zinn write about that's for sure. . . .
good point!
😎 Head of state of the Century.
Yes!!!!!
That’s what I said on another Substack today about HRC!
I had a feeling it would be disappointing and not revealing.
It makes sense now. I have yet to watch it, too many things on my plate today!
The negotiation was known for quite a while actually I remember when it was happening and it got cut down and I thought that's crazy they sent Johnson personally to stop it... They didn't think of a video call to lay it on the line what the west wants? Perhaps play acting to continue the war?
After all, Russia took years to stop the constant shelling of Eastern Ukraine by the west.
If anyone wants to learn more about the Putin administration, please check out this substack. It's honest, he pointed out how Putin allowed for mandates and let an untested sputnik shot that's also dangerous to be official. Oh and a lot of promotion of digital ID and CBDCs!
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/
It is 90% Putin explaining and 1% Tucker asking questions.
Do watch. Hit the pause and come back to it.
Putin is a statesman for the ages, like Bismarck was for Germany.
The problem is that Tucker used to be the guy that asked the inconvinient questions that challenge things. Why the heck did he not ask Putin about the push for CBDC in russia or the covid scam which they also followed like the west did, with their own special sauce.
He’s a captured pawn of the system now.
It's a pretty good speech/interview.
Thanks for the link.
Yes, I've followed that blog and it sure seems like Russia is on board with the Great Reset and the digital slave grid (CBDCs and Digital ID)
Also, look like they are testing the digital tyranny on Ukrainians:
https://twitter.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1755448319101329855
very distressing and confusing.
I agree with you that Russia is on board with the G Reset agenda.
A valuable window into the Slavic mind of Putin.
Was Tucker out of his element? Perhaps.
It matters not. He offered a pure American response.
In the process we were given a lesson in another worldview - 1000++ years old - the intense complexity of its geography, history and faith.
Interesting that he referred several times to 988, the year of baptism of the Russian people under Prince Volodomir. Clearly, this is crucial to an innate Kiev / Rus attachment to orthodoxy.
He closed on the note of spiritual healing and coming together of Russia and Ukraine, and did so convincingly.
That was beautiful
Some people have accused Putin of being a WEF puppet, too. He did attend the "academy" of the so called "young" global leaders.
The nationalize oil / gas revenue is key to a functional socialist regime without extracting from the citizenry . I think it's only 10% and some marginal taxes. In Canada it's about 80% of your income. Sales taxes+income taxes & gov.retirement saving. Most people in Canada have a fix income the inflation is decimating everyone. Unless you are on the Gov payroll . . .
Any tech involving math you will find a Russian leading the field. VVP warned about Bio-Engineering((Eugenics)). It's the Anglo wet dream . . . selling / designing human for pleasure and profit. More slavery ?
We agree.
Tucker was definitely out of his element. It felt like it was another Tucker doing the interview. That was a strange feeling. Putin came out as the winner. He was able to control the entire interview. Then he did something that was ugly: told the world that Tucker wanted to work for the CIA. Why would he do that? To humiliate him, to embarrass him? If he would have left that part out he may have looked like a gentleman. I believe that comment was a great mistake. People love Tucker, and they won't easily forgive Putin for that. And Mr. Putin should know that very well.
I see your point but I am not sure I agree with "ugly." It was however…well, it stood out. Tucker did the same to him, the part about "Germany" but it was way more veiled. spy stuff?
You: "Putin...told the world that Tucker wanted to work for the CIA. Why would he do that?"
Perhaps because Putin's possibly good intentions are often denied on the basis of him being a former KGB intelligece officer? So, how could Putin ever have good intentions?
You know, "President Tucker" in a few years is not out of the question.
yes, we knew about Johnson. This happened only weeks after the war began. They were close to an agreement, so the US sent in Johnson to tell Zelensky no no no no, you cannot end this yet, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men must die first, hundreds of thousands of Russian men must die first. My God, the war mongers in the US, UK, and NATO have so much blood on their hands, will they in a thousand years ever be able to wash themselves clean?
Never dreamed I would see the day our govt would look so bad in the face of a Soviet dictator/ prez
Putin - slick
Biden - slicked
Good cop bad cop roles reversed, just like with the Democrats & Republicans. But they’re both still cops … 😉
Bad cops!
I thought it was an excellent interview. I wish they had covered the US bioweapons labs in Ukraine though.
Tucker is lazy. Didn't do any prep for this. Unbelievable! I was cringing through the whole interview because of TC.
Tucker obviously doesn't understand the importance of the history of the area, or the significance of the Nazi presence there for the last eighty-five years, and their collaboration with the OSS and later the CIA throughout that time period. He didn't do his homework. Putin's answers may enlighten a few people though.
You are right. I seemed like Tucker didn't do his homework properly. He gave us the feeling that he was unprepared. Very strange.
I couldn’t help but think about if Joe Biden was giving a history lesson to a foreign journalist, how that might go.
That's exactly why Putin did this. For the last 14 years the EU genius have been trying to rewrite history . . . So bizZzard . OH i forgot There is no truth the post modernist are in control.
Fuck the woke shit . . . seriously.
The British have gone to war to get Crimea, before. It's not the British people, it's the banksters in the City - and Boris is just their tool.
Yes, Johnson is a ‘useful’ dangerous idiot.
Yeah he's delusional , it[UA war] was a big deflection from Covid scrutiny, his dad is an eugenicist. They have high opinion of themselves. He think he's Churchill , not Zelenskyy. It's a misdirection.
I read the transcript and it only solidified my support of Russia and President Putin.
I liked the warning to the Biden boob heads that Russia leads the world in hypersonic missiles. NATO has no defense against these missiles that can have nuclear warheads attached. The west had better rein in the CIA now or the US will eat one of these missiles.
I’ve come across the lorem text elsewhere, too. If I recall correctly, it’s a standard space filler of nonsense text used when typesetting a document before the final edition.
I read the transcript on
Official Transcript
GEORGE NEWS
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It’s on George news Substack in English
I rarely watch videos, but I watched all 2+ hours of this with great interest.
I am not certain that Tucker "was out of his depth", but he is quite talented at completely channeling a certain kind of typical American attitude, which he channeled into his questioning style.
Tucker represented some form of typical American as a public service. He tried to get Putin to say things which he would not say himself, tried unsuccessfully.
Putin demonstrates a form of deeply competent statesmanship and propriety. He walks up to the point of propriety in all discussions of "partners" in the world, and waits there for them to decide what they would like to do next. He will not quote their private comments to him, and prefers to merely allude to situations which display the powerlessness of the officeholder of the US Presidency. The CIA rates as tactically successful, but strategically misguided, winning battles, but causing the loss of the $US (now underway).
Putin tells a real story of a member of a platoon of doomed, surrounded Ukrainian soldiers, when urged to surrender and live, by the Russian forces surrounding them. The men chose to die fighting, and shouted back their answer in Russian, to the offer of their lives, "Russians do not surrender!"
Your reaction is so illuminating, Celia. When someone actually uses language to issue meaning, I listen intently. I found the interview riveting and learned some things, even though I was already familiar with most of what Putin talked about. When people use language as a weapon of hypnosis, persuasion and/or social control, I tune out. Thank you!
Thank you too Marilyn, for helping me clarify. I was thinking of you yesterday.
I'm only halfway through the interview and I've got to say Carson is looking rather sheepish. Celia you are probably right about him being a bit over his head. Just after Tucker asked him about suing for peace, didn't he know that the Russians had tried? and Zelensky had his security forces gun down their own Peace negotiator!
I love the history lessons!
I'm pretty disgusted with our so-called leaders, Bushes et al. (friends with the Clintons)
Talking better than bombing!😎 ✌️🙏
Rght on...Putin essentially took the US vis a vis TC to school and destroyed any reason for our involvement in Ukraine,IMV..Condoleezza Rice never struck me as trustworthy...having seen her speak in Chicago. Putin seemed to have affirmed that.
Putin kept making that point throughout...regardless of the player.
Bill Clinton as well...turning around and bombing Belgrade. Was it worth it? The city is still in shambles and too broke to rebuild once beautiful buildings. His comments re: Serbia were interesting.
The bombshell IS the double cross of the peace treaty efforts regarding Ukraine. Completely correct.
To my mind..Putin was signaling all over the place. Trump would have been his mettle..but this was not that. Tucker often misses the depth or knowledge factor, unsurprisingly..but Putin would have easily assessed this going in (and decided what he wanted us to all hear). We all could.
Where he was going with the history lesson was clear from the start.. given the double cross over the 2014 Minsk agreement: to build his case for bringing parts of Ukraine back under their umbrella under the guise of nationalism and patriotism to history.
The question I did like was the Nordstream blow up that Seymour Hersh speaks to. Germany's position on this is perplexing..as he suggested.
I would have also liked questions on the bio-labs the US supposedly funds in Ukraine as someone already mentioned.
Putin played this well I thought.
I kept thinking if Putin calls Biden (as TC kept pushing)..would he/could he get a complete sentence as an answer.
Completely agree with and wonder if you were listening on the conversation between my husband and myself!
You only missed out on the "who is (name of journalist imprisoned)? oh, that guy" and "No, all of American is not talking about (that guy)". That Tucker kept ragging on about that at the end was, for me, somewhat oddly childish or false ignorance of a "why not let him go". An insincerity on Tucker's part. Had he prefaced it with a "As a journalist...do I have anything to be worried about..." perhaps it's introduction might have be acceptable. I think, now, he may have done it as a type of AmericanNewsMedia appeasement or a small way of trying to signal to them...something.
You make a good point. I had no idea who this journalist was or is and while Tucker was kept going on about it, I was wondering about the military individual who is still there and not released when the US basketball player was brought home as the first priority of a prisoner exchange.
I kept remembering that guychick basketball player when he brought that up, too. I wanted to say, "Tucker, you are interfering in the negotiations that Putin's men are working out." He may have caused the guy's release to be delayed. Of course, we will never know.
That was my concern as well. Tucker‘s time in that regard might be better. Spent asking Biden about the J6 prisoners here in America.🇺🇸
My takeaway on the interview is that the World has CIA problem.
Amen brother . The Dulles brothers Nazi enterprise. It's crazy how no one ever bring up the Bush family nazi background. When the Eagle landed on the moon ; it's fair to ask whose eagle? which Reich ? (thnx to paperclip)