The Menendez brothers were telling the truth. The broader "implication" is their music industry CEO father who raped so many children including his own but also others, really savagely. It's incredible how they (the media, the courts) lie and lie and cover and spin and distort. It's all rooted in the US national sport: (Via media) Don't show empathy. It's the chief value. https://youtube.com/shorts/M74CLQuMARs?si=DR5PmPmwLNAXyUO4
We don't see well so we have to rely on sound and smell to figure out what's going on. Also, we have attention span issues... what was I talking about, again?
Several types of people go all the way in acknowledging an afterlife through to the dialectical materialist. I think people who do really bad things con themselves into believing that this world is all there is and that they are biological robots. I was none the wiser until the evening I began sliding out of my body and noticed I was contained within a transparent replica of the physical mantle. I had this exact experience a second time. A lot of folks claim to have this experience but I didn’t slide all the way out. I thought gee it’s so easy to just leave the body. Many thoughts followed from this experience especially how it might be wise to show compassion to one’s fellow creatures while observing the rule of the jungle, which is to eat what you kill but not to kill or bring suffering to others for pleasure.
Those experimenting on the rats have no empathy. Making another being suffer so that one's ideas can be proven or disproven is heartbreaking to me. Leave these poor dear creatures alone. Humanity at its worst.
For an animal lover, this is not the least bit surprising! All mammals, from the naked mole rat to the blue whale, have the same limbic system, from whence emotions come.
It’s nice that animals subjected to scarcity and captivity would choose to help each other. Not surprising really. But why is the NIH doing this research? What will they do with this lesson about empathy and captivity (that we pay for)?
what is horrifying is that there are even "experiments" like this. Who are these "researchers" who stuff rats in small spaces just to see what would happen? What is learned from this? There aren't many things I hate, but animal experiments is one of them.
As one of the billions of bio attacked global covid experiment lab rats this is an interesting experiment to ponder.
Was it really empathy or was it the trigger of an evolution-programmed realization that at some point if ALL your same-species competitors are killed off it will result in the end of you also?
Sure, we need companionship (for whatever reason) and we hope and fervently believe we have empathy, certainly I believe I have empathy, but it has not been tested to an extreme level and I hope it never is. Suspect there is probably some algorithm in us that perceives the threat of competition at a number far greater than one. If it is one individual and you are alone you may have empathy. But will you have empathy if there are many individuals and one trapped rat? Now the situation is different because you already are comforted by &/or competing with many free rats. You may view fellow rats as resource competitors but the hard truth is, you need a few of them for you to continue. Be interesting how the experiment would play out if there were MANY rats in the cage and just that one captured rat. Now there is limited or perhaps even excess food to share among many and certainly breeding needs and companionship needs are fulfilled. What happens to empathy then? Does the captured rat get ignored? Do your friends reach out to you when they are engaged and surrounded by friends and family or only when they are lonely themselves? Something to think about.
The lab rat metaphor always sends me off in a day dream because of how we've all been treated during the great mass murder covid experiment. Wonder how many of us lab rats the lab managers will be willing to kill off before they realize at some brain stem evolution programmed level that they probably will need a few of us around, to breed with or exploit in other ways. Wonder if / when they halt the attack we will see it as empathy on their part or recognize that they backed off the attack because they need a few of us around to exploit.
I have a similar story. The other day I brought over a big bone for my neighbor's two dogs. It was too hard to break in half by hand, so he just gave it to Leon and figured when he was done, we'd make sure his sister Kiara got some of it too. Well, fairly soon Leon walked away from the bone.
So my neighbor got a saw and sawed the bone in half so that both dogs could have a bone. When Leon saw that his sister Kiara now also had the bone, he went after his share with relish. Such an amazing display of empathy: Leon would not gnaw the bone unless his sister, Kiara, had a bone to gnaw on as well.
The Menendez brothers were telling the truth. The broader "implication" is their music industry CEO father who raped so many children including his own but also others, really savagely. It's incredible how they (the media, the courts) lie and lie and cover and spin and distort. It's all rooted in the US national sport: (Via media) Don't show empathy. It's the chief value. https://youtube.com/shorts/M74CLQuMARs?si=DR5PmPmwLNAXyUO4
Interesting.
We don't see well so we have to rely on sound and smell to figure out what's going on. Also, we have attention span issues... what was I talking about, again?
Funny, Rat!
Several types of people go all the way in acknowledging an afterlife through to the dialectical materialist. I think people who do really bad things con themselves into believing that this world is all there is and that they are biological robots. I was none the wiser until the evening I began sliding out of my body and noticed I was contained within a transparent replica of the physical mantle. I had this exact experience a second time. A lot of folks claim to have this experience but I didn’t slide all the way out. I thought gee it’s so easy to just leave the body. Many thoughts followed from this experience especially how it might be wise to show compassion to one’s fellow creatures while observing the rule of the jungle, which is to eat what you kill but not to kill or bring suffering to others for pleasure.
Those experimenting on the rats have no empathy. Making another being suffer so that one's ideas can be proven or disproven is heartbreaking to me. Leave these poor dear creatures alone. Humanity at its worst.
For an animal lover, this is not the least bit surprising! All mammals, from the naked mole rat to the blue whale, have the same limbic system, from whence emotions come.
question: does subliminal advertisement produce the same emotional response in all mammals?
Do blue whales want to buy a Ferrari if they see a sexy blue whale near a car? does it work with sea lions and seals?
Have you seen the Ferrari Cetacean? Apparently very popular among affluent blue whales.
It’s nice that animals subjected to scarcity and captivity would choose to help each other. Not surprising really. But why is the NIH doing this research? What will they do with this lesson about empathy and captivity (that we pay for)?
They are trying it out on rodents first before they try it out on humans.
It's coming to a 15-minute city near you soon!
It sure seems that way.
Ratology 101: This rat would sacrifice self to save a rug rat or his adolescent rat sibling but not rats who are members of the WEF rat pack.
what is horrifying is that there are even "experiments" like this. Who are these "researchers" who stuff rats in small spaces just to see what would happen? What is learned from this? There aren't many things I hate, but animal experiments is one of them.
Humans like to think they're so special.
Altruism has also been demonstrated in bats, and I'm sure other animals too.
As one of the billions of bio attacked global covid experiment lab rats this is an interesting experiment to ponder.
Was it really empathy or was it the trigger of an evolution-programmed realization that at some point if ALL your same-species competitors are killed off it will result in the end of you also?
Sure, we need companionship (for whatever reason) and we hope and fervently believe we have empathy, certainly I believe I have empathy, but it has not been tested to an extreme level and I hope it never is. Suspect there is probably some algorithm in us that perceives the threat of competition at a number far greater than one. If it is one individual and you are alone you may have empathy. But will you have empathy if there are many individuals and one trapped rat? Now the situation is different because you already are comforted by &/or competing with many free rats. You may view fellow rats as resource competitors but the hard truth is, you need a few of them for you to continue. Be interesting how the experiment would play out if there were MANY rats in the cage and just that one captured rat. Now there is limited or perhaps even excess food to share among many and certainly breeding needs and companionship needs are fulfilled. What happens to empathy then? Does the captured rat get ignored? Do your friends reach out to you when they are engaged and surrounded by friends and family or only when they are lonely themselves? Something to think about.
The lab rat metaphor always sends me off in a day dream because of how we've all been treated during the great mass murder covid experiment. Wonder how many of us lab rats the lab managers will be willing to kill off before they realize at some brain stem evolution programmed level that they probably will need a few of us around, to breed with or exploit in other ways. Wonder if / when they halt the attack we will see it as empathy on their part or recognize that they backed off the attack because they need a few of us around to exploit.
Interesting thoughts. As humans, being individuals, you never know. Your last posing question: I think in this case the answer is the latter.
Agreed
It depends on how many rats are in the cage.
If there are a lot they will bite the eyes out of a weakened rat.
I did rat research in college and happened to discover this fact.
you probably know about john calhoun and "mouse heaven" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1644264/pdf/procrsmed00338-0007.pdf
Yes, "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there", as they say.
;-/
Doctor John, you monsteeeer!!!
You are almost as bad as my American shorthair cat Arthur, who leaves half eaten mice cadavers and dead moles on the mat.
And there are “a lot of rats in the cage”, running about now!
;-(
Just seeing the picture and skimming the article induced a huge sense of anxiety in me.
I expected to see pics of ovomit, turdo and biDUMB...they are all rats with the obscenity none wash their hands after using public toilets no less.
I am wondering where these minor masterpieces of invective originate within in me. hahaha
I have a similar story. The other day I brought over a big bone for my neighbor's two dogs. It was too hard to break in half by hand, so he just gave it to Leon and figured when he was done, we'd make sure his sister Kiara got some of it too. Well, fairly soon Leon walked away from the bone.
So my neighbor got a saw and sawed the bone in half so that both dogs could have a bone. When Leon saw that his sister Kiara now also had the bone, he went after his share with relish. Such an amazing display of empathy: Leon would not gnaw the bone unless his sister, Kiara, had a bone to gnaw on as well.
There's always free cheese in a rat trap......
It prevented the free rat from loneliness.
Two is company.