Rocket stoves made of stacked bricks with twigs for fuel which emits very little smoke is another simple to make solution. You can find videos how to make one on YouTube.
Ok, well, I am open to that. I just discovered it. Tell us what works, now that we are having the conversation. I just tried it btw. The apartment smells weird.
Yes, me too. I was also taken in by this Click Bait, which I am not attributing to you but the weasels who saw the opportunity for clicks.
Being also among the suckers is how I know it's a farce.
And I was homeless due to a racist DEI hire apartment Mgr, after 24:yeara of tenancy, and due to a plague of bad luck that left me without even my minivan to live in.
I only had a few bucks left, and buying a clean plaint can, toilet paper and alcohol wasted about ten bucks, and with the howling wind, scattered black sheets of burned toilet paper all over.
I had like five wool blankets and two zero rated sleeping bags, one inside the other.
But I wasn't comfortable until I thought of putting a large Hot Hands brand hand warmer inside the inner sleeping bag.
Then I was cozy and toasty with no heat source whatsoever, in a rented storage shed with the air temp at minus 15 Farenheit, and the wind speed at 50mph.
I had been under great pressure, trying to save my possessions and my job at a voice studio, and failed to verify that my unit had an electrical socket, like my friend had in his unit.
That makes everything super simple. He cooked in a microwave and unplugged that to charge his phone and to watch TV, until bed time, when he unplugged the TV, plugged in an electric blanket and went to sleep.
Also, I only kept repeating it because in these times, approaching Winter, it could happen to any of these folks, and I would hate to think of them imagining they had an Ace in the Hole, and freezing to death as homeless Americans do, every single Winter.
One proven method: the pottery fired clay heater using tea lights. In a SMALL enclosed space will raise temps however, you will still want to be that sleeping bag! Hot Hands were my got to in winter. in my shoes in my pockets one on the small of my back. Also in my gloves. I would be fine with those. Hat? Check. Greatest heat loss is head and kidneys small of back area...
Fear of power loss is real. Planning how to deal with it is not wasted time.
Was without power for 2 hurricanes total of 12 days. Made immeasurably better knowing a) I had a grill to cook food on and knew how and b) battery back ups for the phone and c) i had supplies for the emergency food, tarps etc. Oil lamps for light. You don't know how much you'll miss it till its gone. AC too... Got a temp solution in a Generac but planning to live with no electricity.. helps sooth the beast.
Yes, I did know about the TP/ALCOHOL burner! Did you know that hand sanitizer burns like fire gel? LOL. So, after the hard freeze/ice storm that south Texas was slammed with 2 yrs ago, I bought kerosene heaters and propane heaters to prep for all this nonsense. I do have a fireplace in the house, but a cord of wood burns up fast and those heaters put out more heat. I thought 2 years ago I was prepared. No problem I will sleep in the Airstream with all my pets (and my husband of course). But NO, I could not open the doors. There was 2 inches of ice coating the entire unit. Our generators were frozen and would not start, the water well pump froze and stopped working. We did survive and learned many good lessons in the process.
My sister who lived in TX at the time blamed the electric outage on those ridiculous wind turbines that froze up and could not be relied on. Glad you made it, as did she.
It burns ferociously hot for a very brief time. If it was all you had, it would help thaw out your hands temporarily, but that's about it.
Its not really a solution at all, and it would be absurdly expensive to do for any length of time. It's really a stupid waste of toilet paper and alcohol.
Much more doable is a zero rated sleeping bag with a hand warmer inside.
I speak from experience, sleeping in a storage shed in 15 below zero temps with 50 mile an hour winds.
The rocket stove was useless, the hand warmers saved my life.
Survival. In public school I recall we studied the basics of life that we need as humans... shelter, food and water, and clothing. In modern western societies many do not know that shelter can be modest and still effective. Same with food. Same with clothing.
Anyone who has been homeless or seen/know the basics of a homeless existence firsthand are aware of how simple basic necessities can be provided. There exist serious "off the grid" people and even families and there are those fifty/fifty with a foot in each existence that makes living far less complicated and less expensive.
It is easy and cheap to heat with firewood, have a productive garden, and one's independent water supply. Many do not consider this. Living outside the confines of a city, my water and sewer bill is zero and the power needed to run it, lights, stove, microwave etc is 85 bucks a month. Heating bill is the cost of a saw, and the oil/gas needed to process firewood. A septic system built overkill and properly run/cared for now is zero. Total cost of components and installation 33 years ago paid off was 6 thousand bucks. Average cost per year then is less than 200 a year or 17 bucks a month. That figure reduces on average with every additional year in time. What is the cost of city sewer and water? A pile higher. Add tax.
The point is as the damned wasteful corrupt CYSTem adds more and more to the average monthly costs of city services and life, it is possible to choose a country dwelling to live for far less than the cost it takes in a city.
Few want to make the required sacrifices anymore. Bottom line? Many do not have the ability or the energy to live in a cost effective manner. The country dwellers have had skills passed from generation to generation on doing things like properly killing, butchering, wild and domestic meat. My prime rib cuts cost me three bucks a pound. What does yours cost from the grocery store? Pork roast cost me a buck a pound...rail weight cost of a porker is a buck a pound for me...might have increased a bit but nowhere near grocery store meat products. Many hearing this want to get in on the action. But to hire people who know those skills adds much to the cost.
It takes work and perseverance but we have two large freezers stocked with meat both domestic and wild. But these skills are vanishing as more and more move to cities and city dwellers with no knowledge of basic skills move to the country.
I was fortunate to have relatives living farm life who instructed me as a mere boy in their skills passed down four generations. I have passed them down to my children but one of them was a natural.
Look around you. Count the cost. Look down on country bumpkins. But rest assured that group can and will survive, have full stomachs, and prosper when the going gets tough.
I think Hank was telling it straight about the category of people he sang about here .
One way to accumulate enough cash to fund a project like yours is Living in a Van.
As long as you can access at least a small city (50K is the official minimum to be a city) you can stay clean with a cheap gym membership and I have seen video of vans with a tiny and more than adequate wood burning stove for the winter months.
It really doesn't require a fancy conversion, or much conversion at all.
I see you have tuned into the right frame of mind to make it work yourself. We are 14 miles from a city and work there. On extended trips to the USA I have a camper and while I usually go in the winter, I am still comfie and secure. The trips are usually a month. I consider it a luxury...camper has all amenities...toilet, stove, fridge, shower, water heater, etc and I feel guilty on cold days parked at Wal Mart warm and cozy but looking at two dozen cars in the parking lot primarily Mexicans who have slept in their cars overnight.
If I had it over again as a youth, I would have bought some land on the outskirts of the city and lived in a truck camper. Then with a bit of money built a house. You idea about gym membership is great too.
I have a 1979 Chevy van and a bed in it. Comfortable too. So easy if one is alone as I was from age 18 to 28 when I married. Built a cabin the woods on relative property ten by twelve. Steep roof and the ceiling of the cabin is three quarter inch plywood with a wood stove that heats the sleeping area above it to the high eighties in the middle of winter.
People spend too much and do not have to. You get it.
I know a man and wife, late twenties that built a house no permit and are living in it and have for twelve years. It is located in a large area of evergreens. Locked gate into a field and then into the woods. Did some work for them. It is about fourteen by twenty eight feet and built well. Only two of them. Also knew a man who bought a run down farm. House was a wreck. He fixed the barn up and the tax assessor would come, look at the house and not even thought of the barn. It was a masterpiece. From the outside none ever knew and he swore me to secrecy. We put in a fifty foot long pool that was only sixteen foot wide beside the barn. He died as did his wife a few years ago and a nephew inherited the whole works.
sand heater, clay pot heaters work... check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp66vawuYQc multiple others with tweaks. Even make a solar version and heat water... cheap and easy and using free sunlight energy.
Great, rational site! And here in the heart of Indoctrinated Jew Hater Land!
Do me a favor and post this on Future of Jewish.
Thanks!
And in case you missed it, don't rely on this unworkable TP and alcohol nonsense, it does not work beyond the basic reality that it is flammable, but not in any useful way.
Rocket stoves made of stacked bricks with twigs for fuel which emits very little smoke is another simple to make solution. You can find videos how to make one on YouTube.
No more toiling and tiresome outdoor adventure preparation for me. From now on I'll be camping in my living room with one of these.
I hope you survive, but if you are relying on this nonsense you won't.
This does not work, it burns filthy, hot and fast and it is a waste of money.
Ok, well, I am open to that. I just discovered it. Tell us what works, now that we are having the conversation. I just tried it btw. The apartment smells weird.
Yes, me too. I was also taken in by this Click Bait, which I am not attributing to you but the weasels who saw the opportunity for clicks.
Being also among the suckers is how I know it's a farce.
And I was homeless due to a racist DEI hire apartment Mgr, after 24:yeara of tenancy, and due to a plague of bad luck that left me without even my minivan to live in.
I only had a few bucks left, and buying a clean plaint can, toilet paper and alcohol wasted about ten bucks, and with the howling wind, scattered black sheets of burned toilet paper all over.
I had like five wool blankets and two zero rated sleeping bags, one inside the other.
But I wasn't comfortable until I thought of putting a large Hot Hands brand hand warmer inside the inner sleeping bag.
Then I was cozy and toasty with no heat source whatsoever, in a rented storage shed with the air temp at minus 15 Farenheit, and the wind speed at 50mph.
I had been under great pressure, trying to save my possessions and my job at a voice studio, and failed to verify that my unit had an electrical socket, like my friend had in his unit.
That makes everything super simple. He cooked in a microwave and unplugged that to charge his phone and to watch TV, until bed time, when he unplugged the TV, plugged in an electric blanket and went to sleep.
John - thank you for sharing your story, and I am very glad to know you survived, and how.
Yes, I was wondering how those wouldn’t burn fast when I know. Huge logs burn fast.
Also, I only kept repeating it because in these times, approaching Winter, it could happen to any of these folks, and I would hate to think of them imagining they had an Ace in the Hole, and freezing to death as homeless Americans do, every single Winter.
One proven method: the pottery fired clay heater using tea lights. In a SMALL enclosed space will raise temps however, you will still want to be that sleeping bag! Hot Hands were my got to in winter. in my shoes in my pockets one on the small of my back. Also in my gloves. I would be fine with those. Hat? Check. Greatest heat loss is head and kidneys small of back area...
Fear of power loss is real. Planning how to deal with it is not wasted time.
Was without power for 2 hurricanes total of 12 days. Made immeasurably better knowing a) I had a grill to cook food on and knew how and b) battery back ups for the phone and c) i had supplies for the emergency food, tarps etc. Oil lamps for light. You don't know how much you'll miss it till its gone. AC too... Got a temp solution in a Generac but planning to live with no electricity.. helps sooth the beast.
I was being flip, thinking that at a minimum the air would be sooty and unsafe.
No more flip after reading your hardship.
Do you now have a warm room in which to sleep?
Can I send a donation?
I wondered about breathing that in
Yes, I did know about the TP/ALCOHOL burner! Did you know that hand sanitizer burns like fire gel? LOL. So, after the hard freeze/ice storm that south Texas was slammed with 2 yrs ago, I bought kerosene heaters and propane heaters to prep for all this nonsense. I do have a fireplace in the house, but a cord of wood burns up fast and those heaters put out more heat. I thought 2 years ago I was prepared. No problem I will sleep in the Airstream with all my pets (and my husband of course). But NO, I could not open the doors. There was 2 inches of ice coating the entire unit. Our generators were frozen and would not start, the water well pump froze and stopped working. We did survive and learned many good lessons in the process.
MY-LORD ! what an adventure , u guys epitomize SURVIVAL w class . . . . blessings in admiration
Save it for something admirable, that actually works, which rules this silly wasre out.
My sister who lived in TX at the time blamed the electric outage on those ridiculous wind turbines that froze up and could not be relied on. Glad you made it, as did she.
Isopropyl alcohol is C3H8O, so there is a potential for carbon monoxide. Make sure you have good ventilation and a CO detector if using inside.
It doesn't work worth a crap, anyway
It burns ferociously hot for a very brief time. If it was all you had, it would help thaw out your hands temporarily, but that's about it.
Its not really a solution at all, and it would be absurdly expensive to do for any length of time. It's really a stupid waste of toilet paper and alcohol.
Much more doable is a zero rated sleeping bag with a hand warmer inside.
I speak from experience, sleeping in a storage shed in 15 below zero temps with 50 mile an hour winds.
The rocket stove was useless, the hand warmers saved my life.
Survival. In public school I recall we studied the basics of life that we need as humans... shelter, food and water, and clothing. In modern western societies many do not know that shelter can be modest and still effective. Same with food. Same with clothing.
Anyone who has been homeless or seen/know the basics of a homeless existence firsthand are aware of how simple basic necessities can be provided. There exist serious "off the grid" people and even families and there are those fifty/fifty with a foot in each existence that makes living far less complicated and less expensive.
It is easy and cheap to heat with firewood, have a productive garden, and one's independent water supply. Many do not consider this. Living outside the confines of a city, my water and sewer bill is zero and the power needed to run it, lights, stove, microwave etc is 85 bucks a month. Heating bill is the cost of a saw, and the oil/gas needed to process firewood. A septic system built overkill and properly run/cared for now is zero. Total cost of components and installation 33 years ago paid off was 6 thousand bucks. Average cost per year then is less than 200 a year or 17 bucks a month. That figure reduces on average with every additional year in time. What is the cost of city sewer and water? A pile higher. Add tax.
The point is as the damned wasteful corrupt CYSTem adds more and more to the average monthly costs of city services and life, it is possible to choose a country dwelling to live for far less than the cost it takes in a city.
Few want to make the required sacrifices anymore. Bottom line? Many do not have the ability or the energy to live in a cost effective manner. The country dwellers have had skills passed from generation to generation on doing things like properly killing, butchering, wild and domestic meat. My prime rib cuts cost me three bucks a pound. What does yours cost from the grocery store? Pork roast cost me a buck a pound...rail weight cost of a porker is a buck a pound for me...might have increased a bit but nowhere near grocery store meat products. Many hearing this want to get in on the action. But to hire people who know those skills adds much to the cost.
It takes work and perseverance but we have two large freezers stocked with meat both domestic and wild. But these skills are vanishing as more and more move to cities and city dwellers with no knowledge of basic skills move to the country.
I was fortunate to have relatives living farm life who instructed me as a mere boy in their skills passed down four generations. I have passed them down to my children but one of them was a natural.
Look around you. Count the cost. Look down on country bumpkins. But rest assured that group can and will survive, have full stomachs, and prosper when the going gets tough.
I think Hank was telling it straight about the category of people he sang about here .
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=country+boy+can+survive&view=detail&mid=462A52DD4527FF74E32C462A52DD4527FF74E32C&FORM=VIRE&PC=HCTS&cc=CA&setlang=en-US&PC=HCTS&cvid=4091bf105b8b47dd98d0581bba7e78a9&qs=MT&nclid=0346B839B78DBBEB2AFAE5AFE71642EB&ts=1732370366134
People don't have the investment capital.
One way to accumulate enough cash to fund a project like yours is Living in a Van.
As long as you can access at least a small city (50K is the official minimum to be a city) you can stay clean with a cheap gym membership and I have seen video of vans with a tiny and more than adequate wood burning stove for the winter months.
It really doesn't require a fancy conversion, or much conversion at all.
And IKEA style kits can do a lot.
I see you have tuned into the right frame of mind to make it work yourself. We are 14 miles from a city and work there. On extended trips to the USA I have a camper and while I usually go in the winter, I am still comfie and secure. The trips are usually a month. I consider it a luxury...camper has all amenities...toilet, stove, fridge, shower, water heater, etc and I feel guilty on cold days parked at Wal Mart warm and cozy but looking at two dozen cars in the parking lot primarily Mexicans who have slept in their cars overnight.
If I had it over again as a youth, I would have bought some land on the outskirts of the city and lived in a truck camper. Then with a bit of money built a house. You idea about gym membership is great too.
I have a 1979 Chevy van and a bed in it. Comfortable too. So easy if one is alone as I was from age 18 to 28 when I married. Built a cabin the woods on relative property ten by twelve. Steep roof and the ceiling of the cabin is three quarter inch plywood with a wood stove that heats the sleeping area above it to the high eighties in the middle of winter.
People spend too much and do not have to. You get it.
I know a man and wife, late twenties that built a house no permit and are living in it and have for twelve years. It is located in a large area of evergreens. Locked gate into a field and then into the woods. Did some work for them. It is about fourteen by twenty eight feet and built well. Only two of them. Also knew a man who bought a run down farm. House was a wreck. He fixed the barn up and the tax assessor would come, look at the house and not even thought of the barn. It was a masterpiece. From the outside none ever knew and he swore me to secrecy. We put in a fifty foot long pool that was only sixteen foot wide beside the barn. He died as did his wife a few years ago and a nephew inherited the whole works.
Lots of ways to beat the CYSTem.
Ugly house, weathered barn with an immaculate interior? That Potemkin ghetto facade is/was genius.
This is useful! Especially for people who live in places where if the power goes out you die in your bed. Like me up here in Vermont.
No it isn't, it's a stupid, exorbitant ly expensive non starter it burns way too hot and way too fast to be useful.
Wool Blankets and Zero rated sleeping bags are your best preps against cold, followed by hand warmers to put under them.
You can't cook with them, of course, but you can't cook over TP and alcohol either.
sand heater, clay pot heaters work... check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp66vawuYQc multiple others with tweaks. Even make a solar version and heat water... cheap and easy and using free sunlight energy.
Okay. Here's the thing. And it's not good: [https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/glafia-the-predators]
Great, rational site! And here in the heart of Indoctrinated Jew Hater Land!
Do me a favor and post this on Future of Jewish.
Thanks!
And in case you missed it, don't rely on this unworkable TP and alcohol nonsense, it does not work beyond the basic reality that it is flammable, but not in any useful way.
Move to somewhere where weather is seldom fatal, while you can?
:-/
Ponder this, while your beans and weanies simmer...https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/scott-benett-rip/
This is another song that has some good solutions to the current problem of crime and illegal fake migrants in the USA and here in Canuckistan.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=charlie+daniels+simple+man&mid=19C44FF0B444D08AAADD19C44FF0B444D08AAADD&FORM=VIRE
Thanks. I am going to get all the parts and make a couple of these to have on hand.
https://thehomesteadinghippy.com/making-a-clay-pot-heater/ better method for heat. No stink and no ash.
Did you know they’re trying to teach masturbation to 0-4 year olds thru the school system? https://tritorch.substack.com/p/demons-disguised-as-guardians-philanthropic
Steal the food back from Hamas. Only seventy percent of you voted for Hamas, surely 30 percent can overthrow your Fakestinian Oppressors...
Good Luck!