Calley Means says Nicole Shanahan "...is collaborating with influencers to sink Casey's nomination," Jack Kruse Withdraws RFK Jr. Support, Sayer Ji Tries to heal the divide
And Calley swore he was not involved in the administration and that they weren't looking for a job. That was obviously a lie. So what else are they lying about?? Casey is now nominated (one day before they were to vote on Dr. Jeannette N) and he is working in HHS. In my opinion these 2 nobody's rose from the dust and are now working in the administration...how does that happen when we have proven medical experts that are much more qualified than her? I believe they are controlled opposition to steer health away from the vaccines and totally toward food. I also believe Susie "big pharma" Wiles was behind all of this. No way do I belied RFK Jr. wanted her.
For GOODNESS SAKE LET RFK pick his own team - people he can trust. She is not experienced or credentialed plus her ties with the Demonrats totally cancel her usefulness to MAHA!!! She WILL betray the people.
Susie Wiles will never let RFK, Jr. be his own boss. Trump appears to be totally compromised by Wiles, either of his own accord or because he's stupid.
I did another search last night for critical info on Susie Wiles and was surprised to learn that she has given only one interview during the past many years and that interview was not revealing. So, it appears that not many outlets are interested in her and/or she's being very careful to remain unscrutinized.
well i have heard of them before that. they didn't just appear by magic. everyone needs to chill out a bit. not everyone is a deep state operative. there are just regular people in the world
Carolyn, respectfully, at that high political level, no, there aren't. NOTHING at that level happens because they are "regular people." NOTHING at that level happens randmoly or by accident. I suggest you read substack articles by Sasha Latypova and others she endorses.
I would trust Nicole Shanahan on this one. No one is controlling her and she's an extremely smart person. If Shanahan says she got Kennedy to promise her that the Means would not be brought on board, I believe Shanahan had good reason(s) to extract that promise from Kennedy.
since no one trusts anyone anymore, why would you trust shanahan? how do you know that "no one is controlling her?"
when RFKjr first chose her as his running mate, i remember massive melt downs, people screaming about her supposed "Soros" connections. then that hysteria passed and suddenly Means is the devil and Susie Wiles is really running the government. 10 minutes ago it was "President" Musk. can you even name more than 2 Surgeon Generals?
You may laugh, but I think I'm a pretty good judge of character. I'll turn 77 next month. I had the displeasure of being around a lot of very competitive, often devious people in my life, both in academia (20+ years), two years working for orthopedic surgery in a 700 bed university hospital, and in high tech enterprise business environments (10+ years)...plus four years in the military...one year overseas in South Korea.
Have you watched Shanahan's VP acceptance speech on YT? It's titled, "VP Candidate Nicole Shanahan: Full Speech" - (27:27 duration). Listen closely to how she presents herself and what she talks about. Although she doesn't explicitly state it, her main concern is her young autistic daughter. You can imagine how a single parent's world view could be affected by a child who would have trouble surviving without you. Fortunately, Shanahan is currently very financially sound and she does not appear to be a person with excessive tendencies. If you can spare the time, please listen to her speech.
yes, i watched it at the time and i was impressed. but i was never one of those people who set my hair on fire when RFKjr announced her in the first place. my feeling was that i was supporting him and he supported her so i should give her a fair shake and not dismiss her just because she wasn't... whatever everyone wanted her to be. my assumption was that he chose her carefully and hopefully for sound reasons. i do remember, though, all the negative internet chatter about his pick and i'm having a deja vu moment about it now in this case.
all parents of severely autistic children have the extra burden of not being able to assume that their children will take care of them in their old age, but instead must worry about what will happen to those children after they pass away.
this was the great concern that plagued Tsar Nicholas 2 and led him to renounce the throne for himself and his hemophilic son. for any parent of a sick child it has to be the thing that weighs the most heavily on them.
i'm 71 and worked in professional theater my whole life even though my college degree was in psychology. i always said that i used my degree everyday in dealing with the egos and eccentricities of very artistic creative people, of which i am one.
i would be doing it still but i was fired after 40 years for refusing a covid vaccine even though it was well known in my circle that i have never had a mammogram or a colonoscopy and that i only go to doctors who don't participate in the insurance system unless it's for something like a broken bone. conventional medicine is good at acute trauma (i would have said infectious disease too but they screwed that pooch with covid) but all the rest is mission creep.
i'm willing to give any doctor who got disillusioned with their profession and walked away, with extra credit for getting certified in functional medicine, the benefit of the doubt.
i'm willing to believe that the FBI engineered the Anthrax letters, the Boston Marathon bombing, the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping, the Thomas Crooks Trump assassination attempt but the Casey Means is a CIA plant meant to thwart RFKjr is a bridge too far for me. if i turn out to be wrong, i'll admit it, not that i had any control over the situation in any event, so my being wrong or right doesn't really count for much.
i have to laugh at the outrageous comments from people who accuse me of "not demanding the mRNA vaccines be taken off the market immediately!" ok, i can jump up and down and insist until i'm blue but no one is listening to me. should they be taken off the market? of course! should damaged victims be able to sue the manufacturers for damages? yes. but until the liability protection laws are over turned, that's not going to happen.
but no one should mistake my reasoned decision to not spend every waking moment in turmoil over something i can't control and to allow brilliant attorneys like Aaron Siri and yes, RFKjr, to work at it step by step- which takes time- for support of the mRNA platform specifically or for vaccines in general.
the rain appears to have stopped. i'm going to go dig more clay out of my garden, which is a much more worthy activity than fretting over a Surgeon General pick.
But, I would like to know what Shanahan knows about Casey Means that disqualifies Means, in Shanahan's opinion.
Means must be have done very well in Stanford Medical School to have been accepted into Oregon's Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery for an ear-nose-and throat (allopathic ENT) surgical residency.
I'm not so concerned about Means dropping out of that surgical residency...there could be all sorts of valid reasons for her doing so; but, I think it was not bright of her to let her MD license lapse, especially if she had any thoughts of eventually working in government.
Personally, as a PhD in Anatomical Sciences, who has taught medical students and allied health professional students, including physician assistants, graduate nurses, physical, occupational, and respiratory therapists, I've had serious issues with both allopathic and homeopathic practitioners. When I had stage 3 prostate cancer, I eschewed both of these types of practitioners and healed myself holistically in 18 months. For most medical issues, I've found it best to first see whether I can get myself to heal without any 'medical professional' intervention.
If anyone knows why Shanahan does not like Casey Means, please inform me.
I don’t know why Shanahan does not like Casey (maybe professional wariness {jealousy}) BUT the reason Casey dropped out of that institution was because she thought it was raising money from patients by giving medications / treatments / operations etc that ensured a revolving door patient. rather than a CURED patient!!! She did not agree with not looking for holistic cures through nutrition etc. that sort of thinking would seem to echo and compliment RFK’s ideology???
why would anyone trust the hysterical and delusional people commenting about people they know nothing about to positions that they never before gave two shits about?
Where did you hear/read that reasoning with regard to Casey Means? I don't doubt that could be her reasoning; but, I'd like to see the source, if you have it. -- Thanks.
she looked down at the patient on the operating table one day and realized she had done the same surgery on the same guy within the past year. it it her suddenly that she wasn't really curing anyone, just seeing patients on a surgical treadmill. and she stopped.
i've heard her tell this story on every interview she's ever done going back years. her brother, who was a lobbyist for big food companies thought she was insane to give up which would have been a very lucrative career. he eventually came around and acted as a whistleblower against big food.
do i know this for a fact? was in scrubbed into the surgical room when she saw the patient who inspired her career change? no, i wasn't.
but i can't actually certify that i was born of my mother! maybe the CIA switched me at birth. at a certain point, this becomes ridiculous and counter productive
That makes sense. We need to know if it's true that Casey dropped out before finishing her residency. Her book paints a totally different picture. Not fit to be surgeon general.
I'm not her big fan or anything, but she was forthcoming about the fact that she became disillusioned during her surgical residency because she realized she wasn't helping people actually become healthier and made the decision to quit. That's not a secret.
It is well understood she dropped out before finishing her residency. I was an RN for 45 years. New grads always think they know more than they do. There are plenty of experienced docs who don't have anything to prove nor lie about.
we hardly need democrats to sabotage the administration. we're doing a bang up job on our own. yes, she dropped out before quite finishing her residency but who cares? she dropped out because she was operating on a guy who she had just operated on a year before. she gave up a potentially lucrative career. we should all be cheering that.
there are conventional medical groups saying that RFKjr isn't fit to be head of HHS because he's just a lawyer and not a doctor, even though the last head of HHS was just a lawyer. now people are saying that Means isn't fit because she quit her residency. i expect this from the other side but not from us
Democrats like Donald J Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, or RF Kennedy Jr? :)
There are no sides in politics, just staff that gets shuffled in and out of office based on a largely meaningless vote during election season.
I say largely meaningless because they are all marxists -- they all enjoy stealing your labour in the form of taxes and inflation, push state schooling, support industrial food, prefer childcare over the traditional family, retain central banking with its centralization of credit, regulate all forms of transportation and communication, and want to micro-manage all 'federal' lands.
So why is it we can see we are a country following the fundamentals of the Communist Manifesto, but think we are a free and democratic society? We are a communist regime, being run nowadays by diktat, straight from DJ Trump's barrage of Executive Orders in defiance of the Constitution.
Few know more about vaccines than RFK. Let him do his job. It's the best shot we have, even if it is remote due to politics being what it is -- political at all turns.
why is that "obviously a lie?" maybe he wasn't "looking for a job" and maybe when RFKjr was confirmed and started talking to him about participating, he decided that he could be of service. why does everything have to be "nefarious?" sure, a lot is but if EVERYTHING is... why not just off yourself?
don't you find it suspicious that no one has hardly mentioned Susie Wiles for the last 100 days- MSM even underplayed the fact that she is the FIRST female chief of staff in history, put there by a supposed hateful misogynist and suddenly she's the demonic power really running the country. did they run out of people to blame?
since you think she "rose from the dust" here she is in 2022:
Well, something is afoot. I am using the 72 hour rule before I make any decision on this. I have more confidence in RFK Jr. than in "social media influencers" who may be paid to further a certain narrative, or be stumbling blocks in the way of Trump's progress.
I think you have that wrong! You want to besmirch the only man who has ever had the guts to stand against Big Pharma, adulterated food, the addition of harmful chemicals to our food, unwise farming methods (gmo) etc etc and you say you can’t trust him. Would you rather have Gates and Fauci back in charge?
God. Here we go again with the tired lesser of two evils argument. Every election and every appointment is the same. You never learn. Fauci did his job and now controlled opposition MAHA is doing theirs. Like clockwork…
Considering a president who was chosen for you gets to pick, it doesn’t really matter now does it? Arguing over which intentional failure will fail less is a lost cause. Understanding the entire system is rigged against us is something everyone needs to acknowledge before trying to come up with solutions. I assure you they won’t come from billionaires and bloodline families.
There you have it staring you in the face. Trump is NOT bloodline and compared to Elon and wacko Bill Gates etc he is not that rich either. Nor was he “selected” - he earned his place - he faced two assassination attempts to try and put a stop to the exact corruption you talk about. It was the uni party as you describe, until “Trump the unlikely” came along and put a spanner 🔧 in the works!!!
WOW! Ricky Rants - for a start there is NO SUCH THING AS THE “LESSER OF TWO EVILS” argument when one side, Fauci etc set out to depopulate the world by millions with his evil mRNA potion and the other side, Kennedy & Trump is trying to put “health” back into the system. Your argument reeks of political bias when CLEARLY this is about HEALTH, not politics!
You can go on with the “controlled opposition” mantra as long as you like, but I prefer to trust that this time, things are changing for the better and we can loosen the grip Big Pharma has on our health system!!! If we believe this is just more of the same with a different name - then there is no hope for humanity!
it's amazing that some people can get out of bed in the morning, so dim is their view of their fellow human beings. i too prefer to hope. besides, who in their right mind cares who the surgeon general is? have you ever called the surgeon general to ask for medical advice? these people make such a big deal out of everything!
In this era “hope” will not save you. The guy you defend and support made it possible to get the mRNA kill shots out, yet blame fauci and not trump.
Trump’s executive order paving the way for years skipped trials and specifically includes the mRNA shots aka recombinant vaccines. Signed one day after Fauci participated in a Global Pandemic Monitoring Board event.
19 Sep 2019
Modernizing Influenza Vaccines in US to Promote Nat Security & Pub Health
The only man who has had the guts to stand against Big Pharma, etc.? Bobby is one wealthy, famous person who has done so>
WE are part of a phalanx among phalanxes, comprised of individual thinkers who need not hold allegiance to any one except OUR OWN critical, ongoingly informed, subject to healthy appropriate change understanding.
Controlled opposition. Notice how the people standing “against pharma” are saying the same lame talking points 25+ years later and accomplishing nothing. All by design. Brandy Vaughan lost her life for exposing the fact all vaccines are useless and dangerous, but they have you kissing the feet of a fraud who wants “better testing” for the third decade in a row. Wake the fuck up. You’re adults.
The scary part is Trump’s progress. The means siblings should be far away from accepting to have any position of power. Susie Wiles will never let anyone who will not be a dangerous hack be around. Wiles and Calley both at Mercury, good grief that alone should be a warning.
Celia, You are extraordinary at finding what is out there going on that needs to be reported. It is the only way the people can truly evaluate for themselves what they are willing to see. It really is up to each and every one of us to pay close attention to all of it. I know there are millions that do not have the time to devote to all the messiness that goes into making what we call an informed decision. Most of what people think they know is what is on the surface provided by agendas paid for with more money than most people can fathom and the evil forces behind it all.
You spent many years working to inform people about the REALITY of the AIDS scam and it took a toll. But, you never gave up and still doing what you know you must do. I for one am eternally grateful. I pray for you a lot. There are many more who do also.
Robert Malone wrote a censorial post in defense of Means, and pre-emptively accusing anyone who would dare to oppose those weird people. He started this fight.
It's amazing to me to see how many people still trust Malone. His invention does not work, and a pair of commie spies got his Nobel prize. It's such a stupid story that it could make a great comedy.
However, it's even more amazing to me to see so many people still falling for the left-right game, whereby conservatives have to support genocide because they see a bunch of dumb youths of dubious personal hygiene supporting the victims of terrorism and extermination. So many people are still hypnotized a and remotely controlled by the witchcraft of propaganda.
Never cared for Malone…early on in the Scamdemic he came off to me as a real “snake in the grass” and “grifter extraordinaire”. Considering his Big Pharma, DOD, Big Vaccine ‘background’. Then he popped up on Bret Weinstein’s DarkHorse podcast with Steve Kirsch, saying he “got the vaxx” and was “injured” and I was totally suspicious. (And then again Bret Weinstein and wife Heather Heying aren’t really my cup of tea.)
Yeah, I noticed. Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Malone goes everywhere. He also has friends in the Mises institute, which overlaps a lot with Brownstone institute, but they are different organizations with a different history and goals.
It's normal that spies come and go from think tanks and "educational" institutions. Every agency infiltrates the other agencies. And the non-spies are not naïve. They know history, they know Dostoevsky, they know Benjamin Franklin. Power, inventors, intellectuals, editors, spies, all that has always been interconnected.
what's underneath? do you know? or do you just assume the worst about anyone? the man developed a technology which he later abandoned. he could have stayed on his horse ranch but instead he came forward and talked against the vaccines. he took a lot of heat for it
i read it. it was not censorial or accusatory. it was simply an appeal for reason. of course, if you think EVERYONE is a deep state operative or a limited hangout or whatever, then by all means, set your hair on fire over a surgeon general pick. what did you think of Richard/Rachel Levine?
I think his post was a great example of manipulation and pre-suasion. Malone is a well-trained copywriter and public speaker. He just lacks good ideas, as it often happens with psychological operators.
I don't think everyone is a spy. But Malone works for the Government, not for the people, not for justice and not for freedom. That's my opinion, of course. Feel free to disagree.
I often think about about the ostensible reasons versus the real reasons. They always present a scandal a conflict or a blunder for everyone to see and talk about. They never say what happens below the surface. There are secrets, and secrets within the secrets. Imperial politics is mostly a business center. All industries participate in secret deliberations, through the caste of lobbyists, to get their protected share of the pie. The drama is a surrealist distraction, the real tragedies are swept under the rug, in the it's all about bureaucratic profit-making.
I still don't get why leftist people refuse to understand that big corporations benefit from the most from the policies they support. Big government means only one thing: protection of big corporations and big banks, at the expense of everyone, who becomes poorer. In spite of these stubborn facts, the liberals and the progressives and the democratic socialists and the greens continue being useful idiots of their enemies. The best example: the covid lockdowns and the mandatory vaccination harmed the working class greatly, at all levels. But all the left, as a block, supported the covid communism. Very few exceptions. No shame for them in abusing the deaf with the masks, or the mentally disabled, or the physically disabled children in public schools. Political tactics always come first for leftists.
They may be using the strategy of "the worse it gets the better it gets" in the sense that they want millions of poor and violent people willing to do a real revolution. That's a very bad plan, because the Therapeutic State is omnipotent: they will poison the masses as much as necessary to prevent any revolution. In the end, the left will be eaten up by the biosecurity state that Malone supposedly criticizes, but he actually supports. It will be an absolute bureaucratic dictatorship, unassailable from the inside. And it will degenerate into a big war with other countries.
Only the craziest people believe they can tame the Satanic force that is the State.
I suspect the Means family is exactly what it looks: just another group of arrivistes who want to become billionaires by being faithful servants of the Therapeutic and Surveillance Tyranny.
C. Everett Koop. He stood there alongside Reagan, looking smart, authoritative, and trustworthy in his Abe Lincoln beard, and the entire country was reassured that there was somebody competent on deck.
Oh, and he was the dude who significantly impacted cigarette warning labels. He spearheaded efforts to update warnings to include specific health risks, such as lung cancer, heart disease, and fetal injury, and advocated for rotating warnings on cigarette packs.
He also raised awareness about AIDS. That was more controversial. I expect Celia has some opinions on his role in that drama.
We need to find out which global elite families (through corporate proxy's?) are controlling Susie Wiles...:)))))))) She's not doing what she's doing for fun and notoriety. This is all part of the nano-based transhumanist/financial control grid plan...
I've been slammed, but I think I heard a podcast say that Musk is now in a massive conflict of interest, where his companies stand to make billions in government (Dept of Defense mostly) contracts - from agencies he is now controlling or influencing through the DOGE activities...
I do remember when Musk first got his neuralink implant. He got fat and looked like shit. My money is on Musk being 100% mind controlled or close to it. The tech available now to accomplish mind control is insane. A person can be made to feel feelings and think thoughts that are absolutely NOT their own.
Everyone needs to look within and be firm in their beliefs. I have a C19 injected friend in DC who told me a couple of weeks ago that he said something under mind control and does not believe he said it of his own free will. I have tried mightily to get him to detox... and I keep telling him that this is not a joke or something to play with...
It does help. We are not alone. There are millions of energies who have been here before and are helping us now. This is an EPIC battle between the dark and the light... and what an exciting time to choose to be here!:))
You do have to hand it to Trump. While past presidents at least tried to hide their corruption, he does it right out in the open under the guise of MAGA: Trump family crypto coins, Gaza Resort videos, Musk as Co-President to infiltrate the USG with his various businesses, stock short selling prior to his bizarre Trump Tariffs, etc.
You got that right! The more Trump screws the country, the more popular he at least seems to become... That's mind control and psyops. I don't hang out with a MAGA crowd so it's hard for me to gauge anything re: Trump.
All George Bush Jr had to do was fake a Texas accent and keep his family's corruption hidden.
Here you go: Tom Renz dug deep into the scheduling control of Donald Trump and then into all things Susie Wiles, perhaps much deeper than anyone else has (-:
Comment apparently by Tom Renz: "“If you’re looking for my interview with Alex Jones about Trump’s campaign manager and PAC leader Susie Wiles it’s being pulled down everywhere. I’m not sure what’s happening but apparently the WEF is pretty upset about We the People finding out about someone that might be compromised so close to Trump 2024. Why?"
Thank you!!! I'm listening to the 2024 Tom Renz/AJ interview. So, Susie Wiles is a tool for the international global public health demociders. That's the connection to the satanic banksters at the BIS, and the other central banks, who manage all those billions of dollars the evil public health organizations slosh around.
So Susie Wiles is Trump's PRIMARY influence. Susie Wiles is making sure that Mr. Trump cannot be held responsible for knowing that the mRNA injections are deadly and killing people everywhere...
And she maintains the Big Harma globalist control over everything he does - especially with regard to these mRNA poison shops.
The PR company she works for called Mercury, is just one of 1,500 globalist PR companies around the world, that work to make sure anyone who runs for office in any country, does what the globalists want or is removed from their candidacy.
I can see why this interview was scrubbed before the election. At least it is still up and now we know what we are working against when it comes to our still fake President Trump v.2
Good question. MSM apparently quickly censored/deleted the Alex Jones/Renz discussion and perhaps not that many people go directly to Renz's website. But, I think the main thing is the MSM will not criticize WIles with regard to 'vaccines' and neither will Trump sycophants.
Months ago, I initially listened to the first part of Renz's explanation, but was too busy to continue past his explanation that she was gatekeeping his schedule. I then did enough research on Wiles to know her connection to Pfizer via Mercury and her work with Ballard, but who am I to try to distribute this knowledge? I'm really nobody. It wasn't until Celia put it out here on her substack that I decided to go listen to the rest of Renz's explanation and put it out here for her followers. And, I only came across Pasheen's substack two days ago. That may be the case with many more people. We're all very busy trying to keep ourselves alive and healthy, and we tend to depend on others for this level of information.
I don't know what to think except that there is no way the Senate would confirm anyone who has been outspoken against the covid jabs. I've been suspicious about the Means sibs since their meteoric rise to health freedom stardom, too. But she's certainly the lesser of many evils. There is a lot of harm being done by the "food" and chemical industries as well as BigpHarma, so let's allow RFK2 et al to tackle what is actually possible at this point. It's a start.
I hear you. But totally disheartening for those people who have lost loved ones or are injured forever by the C19 injections or other kind of V. No justice seems in sight!
I know and it's horrible. I did what I could to warn people in my circle but the propaganda and coercion was overwhelming. My brother had a stroke and a client of mine died after months of horrible organ shutdown after Moderna shots (and of course the doctors had no idea what was causing it). But realistically, those in power will never admit to the harms that the jabs caused, no matter the evidence. The liability for the government would be insurmountable. As for the childhood vaxxes, Barbara Loe Fisher and her organization has been shouting from the rooftops since the 1980s and the childhood vax program continues to expand and kill and injure. $$$$$$$
I don't know what's going on there, but I would take a wait and see attitude. As they say, The Proof is in the Pudding.
What I do know, if you think that is so bad, you might want to check out Europe, the UK, Australia, Canada, and then you might not be so quick to condemn people who at least are not overt stooges, like almost all the leadership in the above mentioned countries are, 100%. No doubt whatsoever.
Still a very lot of 100% Neocon/Neoliberal/Uni-party/RINO stooges in the US gov't, not even an argument, blatant, obvious and unapologetic, maybe people would be better to focus their attention on those cretins. Trying to lead us into WW3 and sending American boys to the killing fields of Ukraine is just one of their agendas.
You are not wrong about Australia! A few weeks ago he was voted hands down the worst Prime Minister we have ever had, then suddenly this gigantic dunce is re-elected (selected) as our PM once again. No one, but no one voted for that imbecile!!!
The US was in a similar state during the last administration. So the US has made leaps & bounds of progress with the Trump election. Albeit far from perfect. If only these other countries could at least make progress rather than sliding backwards into fascism & tyranny, as they are.
Jenna McCarthy writes—incisively IMHO—on the Casey Means story:
Witnessing the internet erupt yesterday over Trump’s nomination of not-quite-Doctor Casey Means for Surgeon General has me feeling like none of us are even watching the same movie.
To hear the internet tell it, Means is the perfect pick. A HUGE win for MAHA. Exactly what our broken $ickcare system needs. A true champion for health. She talks about seed oils and spirituality and the soulless trap that is the pharma treadmill. She’ll be the best Surgeon General in American history!
Wait, sorry. I got that wrong. She’s actually a fraud. A complete psychopath. A ‘shroom-using, medical school drop-out who talks to trees. A Manchurian asset with ties to the Rockefellers, Bill Gates, Clinton, and Biden. An establishment plant cosplaying as a MAHA champion. “If you wanted to launder the iatrogenocide and make it look ‘healthy,’” wrote Toby Rogers on X, “this is how you would do it.”
Robert Malone is a huge Casey Means fan. Megyn Kelly is “110% behind her.” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is passionately defending her nomination, insisting that the very fact that she’s being attacked so ruthlessly proves she’s not a plant. Mary Talley Bowden, Nicole Shanahan, Naomi Wolf, and A VERY IMPASSIONED AND SHOUTY Laura Loomer maintain that Means is woefully underqualified, mentally unstable, or both.
Here’s the thing splintering the MAHA movement like a hot cleaver through a stick of butter: It’s not about whether or not Casey Means completed her residency or looks to spirit guides for support. It has little to do with her age or lack of experience, her (and her brother’s) sudden, suspiciously meteoric rise to fame, or the children’s book her father wrote for “kids confused about gender and sexual identity.” It’s not even because she founded a biometric surveillance company—even though that’s admittedly worrisome. It’s nothing she’s ever said about metabolic health or nutrition or the broken medical system.
The split is almost entirely about her deafening silence on the same elephant in the room that Kennedy and Trump are also categorically ignoring.
This is a woman who wrote an entire book about “the health conditions that torture and shorten our lives” that was published in 2024—several years into the pandemic, for those not keeping track—and the lowly Covid vaccines didn’t get a single mention. Actually, Means has never brought them up. Not in interviews. Not on social media. “Our ability to prevent and reverse [disease] is under our control and simpler than we think,” her bestselling book’s description page promises. “Good Energy offers a new, cutting-edge understanding of the true cause of illness that until now has remained hidden.”
If you were hoping she was about to out the Covid vaccine plandemic with that last line, prepare to be yugely disappointed. According to Means, the true cause of illness boils down to nutrition and sleep and intentional exposure to cold and heat—not anything silly like being forced to inject ourselves with toxic, DNA-altering bioweapons laced with heavy metals and lies. Don’t be ridiculous.
EVERYBODY knew that with Susie Wiles at Trump's right hand, the dirty Pharma bastards were going to do everything that they could to control the entire medical field.
There was NO WAY that they were going to give up their hold on things.....................
So why should we not be surprised here???
Trump made this decision, but it was at Pharma's command, given to him via Susie Wiles & Kennedy.....
NOTHING AT ALL will change, if Casey Means is put in this leadership role.
Where's your evidence of that? She does seem sympathetic to that ideology as her dad, whom she is very close to, wrote the pro-"trans" kids' book "The Adventures of Felix the Flamingo." That's enough of a reason right there for me to not support her, but I see no evidence that she herself isn't a female.
Not saying any of what you say about either Casey or Calley Means doesn’t have a ‘grain of truth’, but do you really have the “goods” regarding their “sex” or the “sex” of who they are ‘paired’ with, or is this mere speculation in your part?
Whoa Nellie! I think “the rats” are all clamoring to stay on a ship that’s rapidly sinking, fighting it out amongst each other to stay afloat.
The Means siblings IMO have next to no credibility in the Health Freedom/Medical Freedom arena. Where did they suddenly pop up from in the past year? Where were these two ‘grifters’ in 2020, 2021, 2022 & 2023?
President Trump's last two picks for Surgeon General leave me scratching my head. It seems to me Trump doesn't want anyone who will rock the big pharma mRNA vaccine boat. The jury has been and is totally out for shutting down the whole mRNA debacle, but Trump is nor there wanting to skirt the issue by appointing big pharma supporters. If Trump has a weak link, it is this one. I for one trust Laura Loomer's judgement on Calley Means.
they are working hard to hold onto this deepstate plant..... its so obvious and fortunately many are speaking up...perhaps enough for Trump to jettison this effort
Not to mention Casey runs two tech companies pushing injectable "wearables" to track your biomarkers... and she wants the govt to fund this "preventative" AI-based intervention. See my video here https://youtu.be/nHh3QVRlqdE Conflict of interest, anyone?
And Calley swore he was not involved in the administration and that they weren't looking for a job. That was obviously a lie. So what else are they lying about?? Casey is now nominated (one day before they were to vote on Dr. Jeannette N) and he is working in HHS. In my opinion these 2 nobody's rose from the dust and are now working in the administration...how does that happen when we have proven medical experts that are much more qualified than her? I believe they are controlled opposition to steer health away from the vaccines and totally toward food. I also believe Susie "big pharma" Wiles was behind all of this. No way do I belied RFK Jr. wanted her.
For GOODNESS SAKE LET RFK pick his own team - people he can trust. She is not experienced or credentialed plus her ties with the Demonrats totally cancel her usefulness to MAHA!!! She WILL betray the people.
Susie Wiles will never let RFK, Jr. be his own boss. Trump appears to be totally compromised by Wiles, either of his own accord or because he's stupid.
I believe the same…she’s stayed behind the scenes, relatively obscured from the spotlight. Even though she’s Trump’s COS and ‘right hand’ woman.
I did another search last night for critical info on Susie Wiles and was surprised to learn that she has given only one interview during the past many years and that interview was not revealing. So, it appears that not many outlets are interested in her and/or she's being very careful to remain unscrutinized.
He could, if his Senate handler lets him.
https://x.com/robinmonotti/status/1921081476520567086
That was always my question.
I had never heard of Casey or Calley until about 12 months ago.
Indeed where were these two from 2020-2024?
they were there, maybe just not on podcasts you listen to.
well i have heard of them before that. they didn't just appear by magic. everyone needs to chill out a bit. not everyone is a deep state operative. there are just regular people in the world
Carolyn, respectfully, at that high political level, no, there aren't. NOTHING at that level happens because they are "regular people." NOTHING at that level happens randmoly or by accident. I suggest you read substack articles by Sasha Latypova and others she endorses.
I would trust Nicole Shanahan on this one. No one is controlling her and she's an extremely smart person. If Shanahan says she got Kennedy to promise her that the Means would not be brought on board, I believe Shanahan had good reason(s) to extract that promise from Kennedy.
since no one trusts anyone anymore, why would you trust shanahan? how do you know that "no one is controlling her?"
when RFKjr first chose her as his running mate, i remember massive melt downs, people screaming about her supposed "Soros" connections. then that hysteria passed and suddenly Means is the devil and Susie Wiles is really running the government. 10 minutes ago it was "President" Musk. can you even name more than 2 Surgeon Generals?
You may laugh, but I think I'm a pretty good judge of character. I'll turn 77 next month. I had the displeasure of being around a lot of very competitive, often devious people in my life, both in academia (20+ years), two years working for orthopedic surgery in a 700 bed university hospital, and in high tech enterprise business environments (10+ years)...plus four years in the military...one year overseas in South Korea.
Have you watched Shanahan's VP acceptance speech on YT? It's titled, "VP Candidate Nicole Shanahan: Full Speech" - (27:27 duration). Listen closely to how she presents herself and what she talks about. Although she doesn't explicitly state it, her main concern is her young autistic daughter. You can imagine how a single parent's world view could be affected by a child who would have trouble surviving without you. Fortunately, Shanahan is currently very financially sound and she does not appear to be a person with excessive tendencies. If you can spare the time, please listen to her speech.
yes, i watched it at the time and i was impressed. but i was never one of those people who set my hair on fire when RFKjr announced her in the first place. my feeling was that i was supporting him and he supported her so i should give her a fair shake and not dismiss her just because she wasn't... whatever everyone wanted her to be. my assumption was that he chose her carefully and hopefully for sound reasons. i do remember, though, all the negative internet chatter about his pick and i'm having a deja vu moment about it now in this case.
all parents of severely autistic children have the extra burden of not being able to assume that their children will take care of them in their old age, but instead must worry about what will happen to those children after they pass away.
this was the great concern that plagued Tsar Nicholas 2 and led him to renounce the throne for himself and his hemophilic son. for any parent of a sick child it has to be the thing that weighs the most heavily on them.
i'm 71 and worked in professional theater my whole life even though my college degree was in psychology. i always said that i used my degree everyday in dealing with the egos and eccentricities of very artistic creative people, of which i am one.
i would be doing it still but i was fired after 40 years for refusing a covid vaccine even though it was well known in my circle that i have never had a mammogram or a colonoscopy and that i only go to doctors who don't participate in the insurance system unless it's for something like a broken bone. conventional medicine is good at acute trauma (i would have said infectious disease too but they screwed that pooch with covid) but all the rest is mission creep.
i'm willing to give any doctor who got disillusioned with their profession and walked away, with extra credit for getting certified in functional medicine, the benefit of the doubt.
i'm willing to believe that the FBI engineered the Anthrax letters, the Boston Marathon bombing, the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping, the Thomas Crooks Trump assassination attempt but the Casey Means is a CIA plant meant to thwart RFKjr is a bridge too far for me. if i turn out to be wrong, i'll admit it, not that i had any control over the situation in any event, so my being wrong or right doesn't really count for much.
i have to laugh at the outrageous comments from people who accuse me of "not demanding the mRNA vaccines be taken off the market immediately!" ok, i can jump up and down and insist until i'm blue but no one is listening to me. should they be taken off the market? of course! should damaged victims be able to sue the manufacturers for damages? yes. but until the liability protection laws are over turned, that's not going to happen.
but no one should mistake my reasoned decision to not spend every waking moment in turmoil over something i can't control and to allow brilliant attorneys like Aaron Siri and yes, RFKjr, to work at it step by step- which takes time- for support of the mRNA platform specifically or for vaccines in general.
the rain appears to have stopped. i'm going to go dig more clay out of my garden, which is a much more worthy activity than fretting over a Surgeon General pick.
thank you for a reasonable comment.
But, I would like to know what Shanahan knows about Casey Means that disqualifies Means, in Shanahan's opinion.
Means must be have done very well in Stanford Medical School to have been accepted into Oregon's Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery for an ear-nose-and throat (allopathic ENT) surgical residency.
I'm not so concerned about Means dropping out of that surgical residency...there could be all sorts of valid reasons for her doing so; but, I think it was not bright of her to let her MD license lapse, especially if she had any thoughts of eventually working in government.
Personally, as a PhD in Anatomical Sciences, who has taught medical students and allied health professional students, including physician assistants, graduate nurses, physical, occupational, and respiratory therapists, I've had serious issues with both allopathic and homeopathic practitioners. When I had stage 3 prostate cancer, I eschewed both of these types of practitioners and healed myself holistically in 18 months. For most medical issues, I've found it best to first see whether I can get myself to heal without any 'medical professional' intervention.
If anyone knows why Shanahan does not like Casey Means, please inform me.
I don’t know why Shanahan does not like Casey (maybe professional wariness {jealousy}) BUT the reason Casey dropped out of that institution was because she thought it was raising money from patients by giving medications / treatments / operations etc that ensured a revolving door patient. rather than a CURED patient!!! She did not agree with not looking for holistic cures through nutrition etc. that sort of thinking would seem to echo and compliment RFK’s ideology???
Why anyone would like or trust either of the Means siblings is baffling.
why would anyone trust the hysterical and delusional people commenting about people they know nothing about to positions that they never before gave two shits about?
Where did you hear/read that reasoning with regard to Casey Means? I don't doubt that could be her reasoning; but, I'd like to see the source, if you have it. -- Thanks.
she looked down at the patient on the operating table one day and realized she had done the same surgery on the same guy within the past year. it it her suddenly that she wasn't really curing anyone, just seeing patients on a surgical treadmill. and she stopped.
i've heard her tell this story on every interview she's ever done going back years. her brother, who was a lobbyist for big food companies thought she was insane to give up which would have been a very lucrative career. he eventually came around and acted as a whistleblower against big food.
do i know this for a fact? was in scrubbed into the surgical room when she saw the patient who inspired her career change? no, i wasn't.
but i can't actually certify that i was born of my mother! maybe the CIA switched me at birth. at a certain point, this becomes ridiculous and counter productive
I think it was on the Barry Cunningham show. He had emails or a written source up saying something to that effect.
That makes sense. We need to know if it's true that Casey dropped out before finishing her residency. Her book paints a totally different picture. Not fit to be surgeon general.
I'm not her big fan or anything, but she was forthcoming about the fact that she became disillusioned during her surgical residency because she realized she wasn't helping people actually become healthier and made the decision to quit. That's not a secret.
It is well understood she dropped out before finishing her residency. I was an RN for 45 years. New grads always think they know more than they do. There are plenty of experienced docs who don't have anything to prove nor lie about.
And, there are plenty of 'experienced docs' who believe they are more competent than they actually are.
So she said.
we hardly need democrats to sabotage the administration. we're doing a bang up job on our own. yes, she dropped out before quite finishing her residency but who cares? she dropped out because she was operating on a guy who she had just operated on a year before. she gave up a potentially lucrative career. we should all be cheering that.
there are conventional medical groups saying that RFKjr isn't fit to be head of HHS because he's just a lawyer and not a doctor, even though the last head of HHS was just a lawyer. now people are saying that Means isn't fit because she quit her residency. i expect this from the other side but not from us
Democrats like Donald J Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, or RF Kennedy Jr? :)
There are no sides in politics, just staff that gets shuffled in and out of office based on a largely meaningless vote during election season.
I say largely meaningless because they are all marxists -- they all enjoy stealing your labour in the form of taxes and inflation, push state schooling, support industrial food, prefer childcare over the traditional family, retain central banking with its centralization of credit, regulate all forms of transportation and communication, and want to micro-manage all 'federal' lands.
So why is it we can see we are a country following the fundamentals of the Communist Manifesto, but think we are a free and democratic society? We are a communist regime, being run nowadays by diktat, straight from DJ Trump's barrage of Executive Orders in defiance of the Constitution.
Few know more about vaccines than RFK. Let him do his job. It's the best shot we have, even if it is remote due to politics being what it is -- political at all turns.
YES RFK has been studying the government data bases for years on vaccines. He certainly does know what he’s talking about!!!
why is that "obviously a lie?" maybe he wasn't "looking for a job" and maybe when RFKjr was confirmed and started talking to him about participating, he decided that he could be of service. why does everything have to be "nefarious?" sure, a lot is but if EVERYTHING is... why not just off yourself?
don't you find it suspicious that no one has hardly mentioned Susie Wiles for the last 100 days- MSM even underplayed the fact that she is the FIRST female chief of staff in history, put there by a supposed hateful misogynist and suddenly she's the demonic power really running the country. did they run out of people to blame?
since you think she "rose from the dust" here she is in 2022:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/eating-ourselves-to-death/id1570872415?i=1000579559765
Well, something is afoot. I am using the 72 hour rule before I make any decision on this. I have more confidence in RFK Jr. than in "social media influencers" who may be paid to further a certain narrative, or be stumbling blocks in the way of Trump's progress.
Never trust a Kennedy.
I think you have that wrong! You want to besmirch the only man who has ever had the guts to stand against Big Pharma, adulterated food, the addition of harmful chemicals to our food, unwise farming methods (gmo) etc etc and you say you can’t trust him. Would you rather have Gates and Fauci back in charge?
God. Here we go again with the tired lesser of two evils argument. Every election and every appointment is the same. You never learn. Fauci did his job and now controlled opposition MAHA is doing theirs. Like clockwork…
so who would you like to head HHS? perhaps the "perfect" person hasn't been born yet
Considering a president who was chosen for you gets to pick, it doesn’t really matter now does it? Arguing over which intentional failure will fail less is a lost cause. Understanding the entire system is rigged against us is something everyone needs to acknowledge before trying to come up with solutions. I assure you they won’t come from billionaires and bloodline families.
There you have it staring you in the face. Trump is NOT bloodline and compared to Elon and wacko Bill Gates etc he is not that rich either. Nor was he “selected” - he earned his place - he faced two assassination attempts to try and put a stop to the exact corruption you talk about. It was the uni party as you describe, until “Trump the unlikely” came along and put a spanner 🔧 in the works!!!
WOW! Ricky Rants - for a start there is NO SUCH THING AS THE “LESSER OF TWO EVILS” argument when one side, Fauci etc set out to depopulate the world by millions with his evil mRNA potion and the other side, Kennedy & Trump is trying to put “health” back into the system. Your argument reeks of political bias when CLEARLY this is about HEALTH, not politics!
You can go on with the “controlled opposition” mantra as long as you like, but I prefer to trust that this time, things are changing for the better and we can loosen the grip Big Pharma has on our health system!!! If we believe this is just more of the same with a different name - then there is no hope for humanity!
I PREFER TO HOPE !!!
it's amazing that some people can get out of bed in the morning, so dim is their view of their fellow human beings. i too prefer to hope. besides, who in their right mind cares who the surgeon general is? have you ever called the surgeon general to ask for medical advice? these people make such a big deal out of everything!
Thank you Carolyn. “HOPE” is our biggest asset until proven otherwise!
no
In this era “hope” will not save you. The guy you defend and support made it possible to get the mRNA kill shots out, yet blame fauci and not trump.
Trump’s executive order paving the way for years skipped trials and specifically includes the mRNA shots aka recombinant vaccines. Signed one day after Fauci participated in a Global Pandemic Monitoring Board event.
19 Sep 2019
Modernizing Influenza Vaccines in US to Promote Nat Security & Pub Health
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/09/24/2019-20804/modernizing-influenza-vaccines-in-the-united-states-to-promote-national-security-and-public-health
Obama ran on HOPE. Now you know why. Sucker.
O’Bumma ran on corruption, fraud and evil 👿 certainly NOT on “hope”!!!
😂👏
Amen to that!
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The only man who has had the guts to stand against Big Pharma, etc.? Bobby is one wealthy, famous person who has done so>
WE are part of a phalanx among phalanxes, comprised of individual thinkers who need not hold allegiance to any one except OUR OWN critical, ongoingly informed, subject to healthy appropriate change understanding.
Well RFK sure changed, for the better! He was a dyed in the wool Demonrat!
Controlled opposition. Notice how the people standing “against pharma” are saying the same lame talking points 25+ years later and accomplishing nothing. All by design. Brandy Vaughan lost her life for exposing the fact all vaccines are useless and dangerous, but they have you kissing the feet of a fraud who wants “better testing” for the third decade in a row. Wake the fuck up. You’re adults.
Peculiar how the Bob defenders are silent about Brandy Vaughn.
Wow, RFK Jr considered the only one to stand against big pharma. Many have and many silenced via dirt naps.
The real ones.
When Brandy Vaughn “died” Bob K was not there to speak out for her stand against pharma and weird death cause.
No. But somehow he has been duped.
https://open.substack.com/pub/rickyrants/p/never-trust-a-kennedy
I miss the old days R!cky convo couch, Lucky burrito, Richard Medhurst. We had a underground community. The machine has done it's job too well.
The scary part is Trump’s progress. The means siblings should be far away from accepting to have any position of power. Susie Wiles will never let anyone who will not be a dangerous hack be around. Wiles and Calley both at Mercury, good grief that alone should be a warning.
You rule is fine but these are not paid influencers they are mostly truth reporters reporting what they have found.
Celia, You are extraordinary at finding what is out there going on that needs to be reported. It is the only way the people can truly evaluate for themselves what they are willing to see. It really is up to each and every one of us to pay close attention to all of it. I know there are millions that do not have the time to devote to all the messiness that goes into making what we call an informed decision. Most of what people think they know is what is on the surface provided by agendas paid for with more money than most people can fathom and the evil forces behind it all.
You spent many years working to inform people about the REALITY of the AIDS scam and it took a toll. But, you never gave up and still doing what you know you must do. I for one am eternally grateful. I pray for you a lot. There are many more who do also.
Robert Malone wrote a censorial post in defense of Means, and pre-emptively accusing anyone who would dare to oppose those weird people. He started this fight.
It's amazing to me to see how many people still trust Malone. His invention does not work, and a pair of commie spies got his Nobel prize. It's such a stupid story that it could make a great comedy.
However, it's even more amazing to me to see so many people still falling for the left-right game, whereby conservatives have to support genocide because they see a bunch of dumb youths of dubious personal hygiene supporting the victims of terrorism and extermination. So many people are still hypnotized a and remotely controlled by the witchcraft of propaganda.
Never cared for Malone…early on in the Scamdemic he came off to me as a real “snake in the grass” and “grifter extraordinaire”. Considering his Big Pharma, DOD, Big Vaccine ‘background’. Then he popped up on Bret Weinstein’s DarkHorse podcast with Steve Kirsch, saying he “got the vaxx” and was “injured” and I was totally suspicious. (And then again Bret Weinstein and wife Heather Heying aren’t really my cup of tea.)
is there anyone in your "cup of tea?"
Malone is trying to make himself look better by being a part of Brownstone Institute. New veneer doesn't hide what's underneath.
Yeah, I noticed. Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Malone goes everywhere. He also has friends in the Mises institute, which overlaps a lot with Brownstone institute, but they are different organizations with a different history and goals.
It's normal that spies come and go from think tanks and "educational" institutions. Every agency infiltrates the other agencies. And the non-spies are not naïve. They know history, they know Dostoevsky, they know Benjamin Franklin. Power, inventors, intellectuals, editors, spies, all that has always been interconnected.
Malone also very involved in the Bitcoin community
what's underneath? do you know? or do you just assume the worst about anyone? the man developed a technology which he later abandoned. he could have stayed on his horse ranch but instead he came forward and talked against the vaccines. he took a lot of heat for it
carolyn: solid investigation from diana west who iirc was the first to take a deep dive on malone
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-robert-malone-a-risk-analysis
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-plot-clots
https://www.unite4truth.com/post/what-is-relcovax-the-covid-19-vaccine-dr-robert-malone-pitched-at-summit-in-2021-nothing-good
I do not trust Malone at all
"However, it's even more amazing to me to see so many people still falling for the left-right game...." 🎯
i read it. it was not censorial or accusatory. it was simply an appeal for reason. of course, if you think EVERYONE is a deep state operative or a limited hangout or whatever, then by all means, set your hair on fire over a surgeon general pick. what did you think of Richard/Rachel Levine?
I think his post was a great example of manipulation and pre-suasion. Malone is a well-trained copywriter and public speaker. He just lacks good ideas, as it often happens with psychological operators.
I don't think everyone is a spy. But Malone works for the Government, not for the people, not for justice and not for freedom. That's my opinion, of course. Feel free to disagree.
I often think about about the ostensible reasons versus the real reasons. They always present a scandal a conflict or a blunder for everyone to see and talk about. They never say what happens below the surface. There are secrets, and secrets within the secrets. Imperial politics is mostly a business center. All industries participate in secret deliberations, through the caste of lobbyists, to get their protected share of the pie. The drama is a surrealist distraction, the real tragedies are swept under the rug, in the it's all about bureaucratic profit-making.
I still don't get why leftist people refuse to understand that big corporations benefit from the most from the policies they support. Big government means only one thing: protection of big corporations and big banks, at the expense of everyone, who becomes poorer. In spite of these stubborn facts, the liberals and the progressives and the democratic socialists and the greens continue being useful idiots of their enemies. The best example: the covid lockdowns and the mandatory vaccination harmed the working class greatly, at all levels. But all the left, as a block, supported the covid communism. Very few exceptions. No shame for them in abusing the deaf with the masks, or the mentally disabled, or the physically disabled children in public schools. Political tactics always come first for leftists.
They may be using the strategy of "the worse it gets the better it gets" in the sense that they want millions of poor and violent people willing to do a real revolution. That's a very bad plan, because the Therapeutic State is omnipotent: they will poison the masses as much as necessary to prevent any revolution. In the end, the left will be eaten up by the biosecurity state that Malone supposedly criticizes, but he actually supports. It will be an absolute bureaucratic dictatorship, unassailable from the inside. And it will degenerate into a big war with other countries.
Only the craziest people believe they can tame the Satanic force that is the State.
I suspect the Means family is exactly what it looks: just another group of arrivistes who want to become billionaires by being faithful servants of the Therapeutic and Surveillance Tyranny.
So, no, I'm not a fan of Malone.
Indeed Agent Roger W! The view from above is often quite different than the one seen from the ground.
Please, can anyone tell me what any surgeon general has actually done of consequence, other than put a warning label on a pack of Marlboro reds?
Yes another superfluous agency that needs to go. Just get rid of it and problem solved.
C. Everett Koop. He stood there alongside Reagan, looking smart, authoritative, and trustworthy in his Abe Lincoln beard, and the entire country was reassured that there was somebody competent on deck.
Oh, and he was the dude who significantly impacted cigarette warning labels. He spearheaded efforts to update warnings to include specific health risks, such as lung cancer, heart disease, and fetal injury, and advocated for rotating warnings on cigarette packs.
He also raised awareness about AIDS. That was more controversial. I expect Celia has some opinions on his role in that drama.
thank you. at last, a comment that's neither hysterical or paranoid or delusional
We need to find out which global elite families (through corporate proxy's?) are controlling Susie Wiles...:)))))))) She's not doing what she's doing for fun and notoriety. This is all part of the nano-based transhumanist/financial control grid plan...
Explains Musk sucking up to Trump
I've been slammed, but I think I heard a podcast say that Musk is now in a massive conflict of interest, where his companies stand to make billions in government (Dept of Defense mostly) contracts - from agencies he is now controlling or influencing through the DOGE activities...
I do remember when Musk first got his neuralink implant. He got fat and looked like shit. My money is on Musk being 100% mind controlled or close to it. The tech available now to accomplish mind control is insane. A person can be made to feel feelings and think thoughts that are absolutely NOT their own.
Everyone needs to look within and be firm in their beliefs. I have a C19 injected friend in DC who told me a couple of weeks ago that he said something under mind control and does not believe he said it of his own free will. I have tried mightily to get him to detox... and I keep telling him that this is not a joke or something to play with...
We all need to PRAY BIGTIME!!!
It does help. We are not alone. There are millions of energies who have been here before and are helping us now. This is an EPIC battle between the dark and the light... and what an exciting time to choose to be here!:))
Explains Musk sucking up to Trump
Or vice versa 🙄
You do have to hand it to Trump. While past presidents at least tried to hide their corruption, he does it right out in the open under the guise of MAGA: Trump family crypto coins, Gaza Resort videos, Musk as Co-President to infiltrate the USG with his various businesses, stock short selling prior to his bizarre Trump Tariffs, etc.
You got that right! The more Trump screws the country, the more popular he at least seems to become... That's mind control and psyops. I don't hang out with a MAGA crowd so it's hard for me to gauge anything re: Trump.
All George Bush Jr had to do was fake a Texas accent and keep his family's corruption hidden.
My comment from below…”So a big ‘player’ in this whole “Means” kerfluffle seems to be Susie Wiles, Trump’s COS. What’s the ‘dirt’ on her?”
Frontera,
Here you go: Tom Renz dug deep into the scheduling control of Donald Trump and then into all things Susie Wiles, perhaps much deeper than anyone else has (-:
1) Trump 2024 - A Snake in the Grass?
https://tomrenz.substack.com/p/trump-2024-a-snake-in-the-grass
2) Deleted Interview: Attorney Tom Renz on the Alex Jones Show
https://tomrenz.com/deleted-interview-attorney-tom-renz-on-the-alex-jones-show/
Comment apparently by Tom Renz: "“If you’re looking for my interview with Alex Jones about Trump’s campaign manager and PAC leader Susie Wiles it’s being pulled down everywhere. I’m not sure what’s happening but apparently the WEF is pretty upset about We the People finding out about someone that might be compromised so close to Trump 2024. Why?"
Thank you!!! I'm listening to the 2024 Tom Renz/AJ interview. So, Susie Wiles is a tool for the international global public health demociders. That's the connection to the satanic banksters at the BIS, and the other central banks, who manage all those billions of dollars the evil public health organizations slosh around.
So Susie Wiles is Trump's PRIMARY influence. Susie Wiles is making sure that Mr. Trump cannot be held responsible for knowing that the mRNA injections are deadly and killing people everywhere...
And she maintains the Big Harma globalist control over everything he does - especially with regard to these mRNA poison shops.
The PR company she works for called Mercury, is just one of 1,500 globalist PR companies around the world, that work to make sure anyone who runs for office in any country, does what the globalists want or is removed from their candidacy.
I can see why this interview was scrubbed before the election. At least it is still up and now we know what we are working against when it comes to our still fake President Trump v.2
Ok so Renz threw back the curtain on Susie Wiles in 2024 before the election. Why aren’t we hearing about her now from
any source?
Good question. MSM apparently quickly censored/deleted the Alex Jones/Renz discussion and perhaps not that many people go directly to Renz's website. But, I think the main thing is the MSM will not criticize WIles with regard to 'vaccines' and neither will Trump sycophants.
Months ago, I initially listened to the first part of Renz's explanation, but was too busy to continue past his explanation that she was gatekeeping his schedule. I then did enough research on Wiles to know her connection to Pfizer via Mercury and her work with Ballard, but who am I to try to distribute this knowledge? I'm really nobody. It wasn't until Celia put it out here on her substack that I decided to go listen to the rest of Renz's explanation and put it out here for her followers. And, I only came across Pasheen's substack two days ago. That may be the case with many more people. We're all very busy trying to keep ourselves alive and healthy, and we tend to depend on others for this level of information.
Who is the Pasheen’s Substack that you mention? I know all this ‘deep diving’ totally sucks ups one time! 😉🤪
Pasheen Stonebrooke -- https://divadrops.substack.com/
lupita - start here https://www.citizen.org/wp-content/uploads/MeetSusieWiles__REPORT_11.15.24.pdf
All part of the plan. You don’t pick your leaders. They do.
I don't know what to think except that there is no way the Senate would confirm anyone who has been outspoken against the covid jabs. I've been suspicious about the Means sibs since their meteoric rise to health freedom stardom, too. But she's certainly the lesser of many evils. There is a lot of harm being done by the "food" and chemical industries as well as BigpHarma, so let's allow RFK2 et al to tackle what is actually possible at this point. It's a start.
I hear you. But totally disheartening for those people who have lost loved ones or are injured forever by the C19 injections or other kind of V. No justice seems in sight!
I know and it's horrible. I did what I could to warn people in my circle but the propaganda and coercion was overwhelming. My brother had a stroke and a client of mine died after months of horrible organ shutdown after Moderna shots (and of course the doctors had no idea what was causing it). But realistically, those in power will never admit to the harms that the jabs caused, no matter the evidence. The liability for the government would be insurmountable. As for the childhood vaxxes, Barbara Loe Fisher and her organization has been shouting from the rooftops since the 1980s and the childhood vax program continues to expand and kill and injure. $$$$$$$
No it’s not a start - they are there to STALL MAHA!!!
Her appointment is not coming from RFK Jr.! It’s Susie Wiles, Trump’s COS.
If true show me
See the two Tom Renz videos I posted above to Frontera. It has to be Susie Wiles.
Don’t see videos attached
1) Trump 2024 - A Snake in the Grass?
https://tomrenz.substack.com/p/trump-2024-a-snake-in-the-grass
2) Deleted Interview: Attorney Tom Renz on the Alex Jones Show
https://tomrenz.com/deleted-interview-attorney-tom-renz-on-the-alex-jones-show/
I don't know what's going on there, but I would take a wait and see attitude. As they say, The Proof is in the Pudding.
What I do know, if you think that is so bad, you might want to check out Europe, the UK, Australia, Canada, and then you might not be so quick to condemn people who at least are not overt stooges, like almost all the leadership in the above mentioned countries are, 100%. No doubt whatsoever.
Still a very lot of 100% Neocon/Neoliberal/Uni-party/RINO stooges in the US gov't, not even an argument, blatant, obvious and unapologetic, maybe people would be better to focus their attention on those cretins. Trying to lead us into WW3 and sending American boys to the killing fields of Ukraine is just one of their agendas.
You are not wrong about Australia! A few weeks ago he was voted hands down the worst Prime Minister we have ever had, then suddenly this gigantic dunce is re-elected (selected) as our PM once again. No one, but no one voted for that imbecile!!!
So wtf????
Albanese's fiance Jodie Haydon looks trans, as was his ex Carmel Tebbutt.
The NZ PM also has a trans wife, Amanda Luxon. And in Canada Carney's wife Diana is trans.
In fact, the political leaders of nearly every country have transgender spouses or partners. Or are trans themselves, like in Italy and Mexico.
All the better to bugger up their respective countries?
Jacinda Ardern sends my gender-o-meter spinning round and round and round. Doesn't look particularly female or male.
Yes, she's been mooted as a tranny. Horrible person:).
Agreed but this is part of the why those countries are where they are.
The US was in a similar state during the last administration. So the US has made leaps & bounds of progress with the Trump election. Albeit far from perfect. If only these other countries could at least make progress rather than sliding backwards into fascism & tyranny, as they are.
Jenna McCarthy writes—incisively IMHO—on the Casey Means story:
Witnessing the internet erupt yesterday over Trump’s nomination of not-quite-Doctor Casey Means for Surgeon General has me feeling like none of us are even watching the same movie.
To hear the internet tell it, Means is the perfect pick. A HUGE win for MAHA. Exactly what our broken $ickcare system needs. A true champion for health. She talks about seed oils and spirituality and the soulless trap that is the pharma treadmill. She’ll be the best Surgeon General in American history!
Wait, sorry. I got that wrong. She’s actually a fraud. A complete psychopath. A ‘shroom-using, medical school drop-out who talks to trees. A Manchurian asset with ties to the Rockefellers, Bill Gates, Clinton, and Biden. An establishment plant cosplaying as a MAHA champion. “If you wanted to launder the iatrogenocide and make it look ‘healthy,’” wrote Toby Rogers on X, “this is how you would do it.”
Robert Malone is a huge Casey Means fan. Megyn Kelly is “110% behind her.” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is passionately defending her nomination, insisting that the very fact that she’s being attacked so ruthlessly proves she’s not a plant. Mary Talley Bowden, Nicole Shanahan, Naomi Wolf, and A VERY IMPASSIONED AND SHOUTY Laura Loomer maintain that Means is woefully underqualified, mentally unstable, or both.
Here’s the thing splintering the MAHA movement like a hot cleaver through a stick of butter: It’s not about whether or not Casey Means completed her residency or looks to spirit guides for support. It has little to do with her age or lack of experience, her (and her brother’s) sudden, suspiciously meteoric rise to fame, or the children’s book her father wrote for “kids confused about gender and sexual identity.” It’s not even because she founded a biometric surveillance company—even though that’s admittedly worrisome. It’s nothing she’s ever said about metabolic health or nutrition or the broken medical system.
The split is almost entirely about her deafening silence on the same elephant in the room that Kennedy and Trump are also categorically ignoring.
This is a woman who wrote an entire book about “the health conditions that torture and shorten our lives” that was published in 2024—several years into the pandemic, for those not keeping track—and the lowly Covid vaccines didn’t get a single mention. Actually, Means has never brought them up. Not in interviews. Not on social media. “Our ability to prevent and reverse [disease] is under our control and simpler than we think,” her bestselling book’s description page promises. “Good Energy offers a new, cutting-edge understanding of the true cause of illness that until now has remained hidden.”
If you were hoping she was about to out the Covid vaccine plandemic with that last line, prepare to be yugely disappointed. According to Means, the true cause of illness boils down to nutrition and sleep and intentional exposure to cold and heat—not anything silly like being forced to inject ourselves with toxic, DNA-altering bioweapons laced with heavy metals and lies. Don’t be ridiculous.
https://jennasside.rocks/p/casey-means-health-visionary-or-political
Calley cannot be trusted until she publicly tells the truth about the dangerous and ineffective mRNA jabs.
EVERYBODY knew that with Susie Wiles at Trump's right hand, the dirty Pharma bastards were going to do everything that they could to control the entire medical field.
There was NO WAY that they were going to give up their hold on things.....................
So why should we not be surprised here???
Trump made this decision, but it was at Pharma's command, given to him via Susie Wiles & Kennedy.....
NOTHING AT ALL will change, if Casey Means is put in this leadership role.
This is beyond a joke Casey Means is in NO WAY qualified for this job, not with life experience, or with the necessary paperwork / degrees etc.
She is transgender.
oh good grief!
Where's your evidence of that? She does seem sympathetic to that ideology as her dad, whom she is very close to, wrote the pro-"trans" kids' book "The Adventures of Felix the Flamingo." That's enough of a reason right there for me to not support her, but I see no evidence that she herself isn't a female.
It's an educated hunch based on my experience. And "her" brother is married to a transwoman.
Not saying any of what you say about either Casey or Calley Means doesn’t have a ‘grain of truth’, but do you really have the “goods” regarding their “sex” or the “sex” of who they are ‘paired’ with, or is this mere speculation in your part?
It's an observation based on much experience.
Oh Gawd! 🙄
Whoa Nellie! I think “the rats” are all clamoring to stay on a ship that’s rapidly sinking, fighting it out amongst each other to stay afloat.
The Means siblings IMO have next to no credibility in the Health Freedom/Medical Freedom arena. Where did they suddenly pop up from in the past year? Where were these two ‘grifters’ in 2020, 2021, 2022 & 2023?
President Trump's last two picks for Surgeon General leave me scratching my head. It seems to me Trump doesn't want anyone who will rock the big pharma mRNA vaccine boat. The jury has been and is totally out for shutting down the whole mRNA debacle, but Trump is nor there wanting to skirt the issue by appointing big pharma supporters. If Trump has a weak link, it is this one. I for one trust Laura Loomer's judgement on Calley Means.
Not sure about trus in Trump. But I do believe Loomer is on the right side on this .
they are working hard to hold onto this deepstate plant..... its so obvious and fortunately many are speaking up...perhaps enough for Trump to jettison this effort
Not to mention Casey runs two tech companies pushing injectable "wearables" to track your biomarkers... and she wants the govt to fund this "preventative" AI-based intervention. See my video here https://youtu.be/nHh3QVRlqdE Conflict of interest, anyone?