When I watch a presentation such as this--I documentary from the 1970s, I am always struck and saddened by how much our country and its people have changed. There is an authenticity to this that I don't see today. There is earnestness, irony, thought and somehow the people seem more organic. They aren't parroting opinions, they aren't angrily defending their views--they are simply expressing themselves. I also miss the regional accents, the learned experience and the working class intelligence. In this film, the opinions of these people are not governed by credentialed experts, by elites, by propaganda. There is a common working class sensibility infused throughout. That's the America I miss.
Yes, so very many assaults. Downsizing, 'reality' TV which seemed to condition people for fake behavior, gender studies and ADD/ADHD and 'prescription' drugs, undermining of the male, the female, the child. I could continue. But I really got the sense watching this documentary--and thank you for posting it--that what they really got well and truly rid of was the working class. I still know a few--plumbers, chimney sweeps--and they have so much more common sense. Something about working through actual problems with their hands and brains --I think.
But ironically the “issues” that these people speak of still exist in our country 55 years later. Oh there may be variations here and there but they all carry a common theme. One of “questioning authority”. The only thing now is that there are less and less of us now that still do. 😏😟
As a very young girl, I prayed every night before bed that God would stop the Vietnam war. I was terrified that my uncle and his buddies would be sent off to die. Little did I know that 40 years later I would be married to one of those boys that I prayed for. His flight suit and jump boots are still in the closet in a duffel bag.
Important to note that a lot of the money 'spent' on 'foreign aid' is so that these other countries can buy US made weapons or pharma products and still end up being indebted to the US.
Trying to process this...a haunting feeling in my gut...what happened to our nation's principles...or was it always a myth? Pray for peace and prepare for war coming to our homes as we brace for the next move.
It's amazing how great was the music from the 1970s. All styles. Right before computers. Amazing. Yeah, yeah, mind control and luciferianism and all that. But, it was really great music. Perhaps, great music made propaganda easier to swallow?
For example: Man on the Silver Mountain, from 1975, by Rainbow.
Silver is money, of course.
Who was the Man on the Silver Mountain? Paul Getty? George Soros? Robert Maxwell? Sheldon Adelson?
My point is that 50 years later both the music and the insane ambition have survived the people from that era.
Haha, The music industry isn’t what it seems; especially to the boys and girls of the 50’s,60’s and 70’s, maybe any decade. The only good thing was, the music was mainly from real musical instruments, most vocalists had decent voices. Most figured they were lucky to have freedom and music plus the pill. (Pill being another issue for another day)
Then comes the synthesised schmuck of the 80’s, the head voices, frequencies, tinnitus became usual (now it’s in everyone’s head), we had punk, big hair glam rockers (courtesy Geffen), all emerged from biker rockers. And so, it goes on!
TotP’s, MTV, etc etc. Souls were sold.
What about The Beatles (Tavistock) and The Rolling Stones, oh my mistake….. The Stones; how many knighthoods??? Maybe Billy the bassist, could share a number, and it isn’t 27.
Lyrics, frequencies, rhythms, surnames……where to next? Anyone!!!
Oh, I’d love a stroll in Andalusia with Celia sharing thoughts on this very topic.
Yes the music of that era was when people knew how to write songs and play them directly with their instruments. Not all this AI Digitized crap music of today. I never listen to music that was made after the early 80’s. Everything before yes, even back to “the standards” of my Mom’s era.
If you like the early 70’s music by a band that the members can play the guitar, keep a beat with AI assistance, as well as “kick ass” in the singing area, there is a documentary out now on Netflix, “Becoming Led Zeppelin” about the formation of Led Zeppelin. Both Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones were ‘studio musicians” in London before they got together with Robert Plant and John Bonham.
Page and Jones played on the song “Goldfinger” (for the film of the same name), featuring the British singer Shirley Bassey! They became far more successful in the USA before they ‘charted’ in England. They were supported by and made famous by the American producer Jerry Wexler and Ahmet Ertegun, the co-founder and president of Atlantic Records.
And herein lies a whole untold further story about Led Zep, and I’m certain many more to be discovered that only those directly involved every knew. I have a friend just a short ride down the motorway, an exemplary guitarist and composer, who so few know by name, he’s extremely wealthy, by way of many musical documentaries on which you aren’t actually hearing Hendrix, Page, etc, but himself. His fees are not as extortionate as the Hendrix estate, or the cogs in the wheels of living musicians/bands. Same with video games, it is him playing mainly guitar but sometimes other instruments. In theatre, I’ve seen men and women shed tears as he plays. Programmes have used his compositions, season after season, for which he is credited, but still no one knows his name.
So, as reminded, Jimmy Page was a successful session musician at twelve years old (excused from school to attend studios), fairly mainstream knowledge. Many shun the reality of Baker, Bruce and Clapton, only forming Cream, to highlight their own musical ability, safe in the knowledge, many popular hits, by popular bands, were penned by those 3 men and not those credited.
So some clarity needed here…being from the USA I had no knowledge that Jimmy Page was a studio musician or that he started doing that when he was 12, and I’m sure there are many people in my age group that did not know that.
Also are you saying the Baker, Clapton & Bruce did write all the Cream songs on their albums, or others wrote them? That statement is not clear to me.
I believe “Born under a Bad Sign”, Cream’s “cover” in 1968 of the same song done by Albert King in 1967 was not written by any of the three. It was written by Stax Records R&B singer William Bell and the music was by Booker T. Jones (of Booker T and the MG.’s). (I have toured the Stax Records Studio/Museum in Memphis, TN.)
And this mysterious wealthy, composer, guitar player that we have never heard of is who?
About enough to make 10-16 nuclear bombs of basic design, advanced design up to 26. A very inefficient way to make nuclear weapons. Much better to breed plutonium in heavy water or graphite reactors.
Iran's focus on enrichment does not portend of a serious weapons program. Really just relevant for energy & medical/industrial/agricultural isotope production.
Smart? People were able to think critically or had 'common sense' as it was known back then. There are a lot of 'smart' people with degrees out there who are as dumb as a rubber hammer. As a matter of fact, they were some of the first ones to run out and get the Covid jab, preferably the Pfizer one of course. Too busy watching their SMART TV's.
The only thing about Nam that interests me is Rambo First blood Part II. But I don't think it takes place in Vietnam. The government is still a bale full of lies 60 years later.
I was in Grade 12 or 13 Ontario (same history teacher both years) so it was 1966 or 1967. Our teacher asked us what we thought the Vietnam War was for, was it for defeating communism as the Americans said? I said, "Communism has nothing to do with it." What was it then? I didn't have this ready. I remember taking a couple of seconds thought. "To prevent China from establishing a commercial empire in the Far East." I'll never forget that moment. It was a keynote of my life ever since.
When I watch a presentation such as this--I documentary from the 1970s, I am always struck and saddened by how much our country and its people have changed. There is an authenticity to this that I don't see today. There is earnestness, irony, thought and somehow the people seem more organic. They aren't parroting opinions, they aren't angrily defending their views--they are simply expressing themselves. I also miss the regional accents, the learned experience and the working class intelligence. In this film, the opinions of these people are not governed by credentialed experts, by elites, by propaganda. There is a common working class sensibility infused throughout. That's the America I miss.
I utterly concur A.M. Their voices, diction, eyes, absolutely everything, is "before." Before...what? So many things, so many attacks.
Yes, so very many assaults. Downsizing, 'reality' TV which seemed to condition people for fake behavior, gender studies and ADD/ADHD and 'prescription' drugs, undermining of the male, the female, the child. I could continue. But I really got the sense watching this documentary--and thank you for posting it--that what they really got well and truly rid of was the working class. I still know a few--plumbers, chimney sweeps--and they have so much more common sense. Something about working through actual problems with their hands and brains --I think.
Same here. Canada. It's heartbreaking, what we lost. The whole world lost the best of us. And that was when it happened, that damnable Satanic war.
But ironically the “issues” that these people speak of still exist in our country 55 years later. Oh there may be variations here and there but they all carry a common theme. One of “questioning authority”. The only thing now is that there are less and less of us now that still do. 😏😟
Celia, among other things, you're a master curator of online curios and treasures. Thank you!
I'll second that! Interesting tidbits of the tapestry of our lives. I love it~
As a very young girl, I prayed every night before bed that God would stop the Vietnam war. I was terrified that my uncle and his buddies would be sent off to die. Little did I know that 40 years later I would be married to one of those boys that I prayed for. His flight suit and jump boots are still in the closet in a duffel bag.
I remember it vividly—I was a teenage boomer back then.
I remember it well too. My sister wore a bracelet with the name of a P.O.W., and my brother enrolled in college just so he wouldn't be drafted.
I haven't thought about those bracelets in a long time, but do remember people wearing them. Silver bands, the names engraved with black lettering.
I wonder how many of those POWs made it home.
I wonder too. I'm pretty sure she never knew what happened to that soldier. I hope he made it back home.
Garfield Ridge is less than 100 miles from my hometown.
From the class of '69 I can closely identify with all stated in this video:
-- about the Viet Nam war and continuous wars(proven correct over the last half century)
The silent majority is still talking and nothing is happening.
Because, we are still just . . . TALKING.
"The more things change, the more they stay the same". Thank you for this 'gem' Celia.
So true..the “issues” they discussed are still around 55 years later.
Important to note that a lot of the money 'spent' on 'foreign aid' is so that these other countries can buy US made weapons or pharma products and still end up being indebted to the US.
Trying to process this...a haunting feeling in my gut...what happened to our nation's principles...or was it always a myth? Pray for peace and prepare for war coming to our homes as we brace for the next move.
It's amazing how great was the music from the 1970s. All styles. Right before computers. Amazing. Yeah, yeah, mind control and luciferianism and all that. But, it was really great music. Perhaps, great music made propaganda easier to swallow?
For example: Man on the Silver Mountain, from 1975, by Rainbow.
Silver is money, of course.
Who was the Man on the Silver Mountain? Paul Getty? George Soros? Robert Maxwell? Sheldon Adelson?
My point is that 50 years later both the music and the insane ambition have survived the people from that era.
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rainbow/manonthesilvermountain.html
Haha, The music industry isn’t what it seems; especially to the boys and girls of the 50’s,60’s and 70’s, maybe any decade. The only good thing was, the music was mainly from real musical instruments, most vocalists had decent voices. Most figured they were lucky to have freedom and music plus the pill. (Pill being another issue for another day)
Then comes the synthesised schmuck of the 80’s, the head voices, frequencies, tinnitus became usual (now it’s in everyone’s head), we had punk, big hair glam rockers (courtesy Geffen), all emerged from biker rockers. And so, it goes on!
TotP’s, MTV, etc etc. Souls were sold.
What about The Beatles (Tavistock) and The Rolling Stones, oh my mistake….. The Stones; how many knighthoods??? Maybe Billy the bassist, could share a number, and it isn’t 27.
Lyrics, frequencies, rhythms, surnames……where to next? Anyone!!!
Oh, I’d love a stroll in Andalusia with Celia sharing thoughts on this very topic.
Yes the music of that era was when people knew how to write songs and play them directly with their instruments. Not all this AI Digitized crap music of today. I never listen to music that was made after the early 80’s. Everything before yes, even back to “the standards” of my Mom’s era.
Woman after my own heart!
If you like the early 70’s music by a band that the members can play the guitar, keep a beat with AI assistance, as well as “kick ass” in the singing area, there is a documentary out now on Netflix, “Becoming Led Zeppelin” about the formation of Led Zeppelin. Both Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones were ‘studio musicians” in London before they got together with Robert Plant and John Bonham.
Page and Jones played on the song “Goldfinger” (for the film of the same name), featuring the British singer Shirley Bassey! They became far more successful in the USA before they ‘charted’ in England. They were supported by and made famous by the American producer Jerry Wexler and Ahmet Ertegun, the co-founder and president of Atlantic Records.
And herein lies a whole untold further story about Led Zep, and I’m certain many more to be discovered that only those directly involved every knew. I have a friend just a short ride down the motorway, an exemplary guitarist and composer, who so few know by name, he’s extremely wealthy, by way of many musical documentaries on which you aren’t actually hearing Hendrix, Page, etc, but himself. His fees are not as extortionate as the Hendrix estate, or the cogs in the wheels of living musicians/bands. Same with video games, it is him playing mainly guitar but sometimes other instruments. In theatre, I’ve seen men and women shed tears as he plays. Programmes have used his compositions, season after season, for which he is credited, but still no one knows his name.
So, as reminded, Jimmy Page was a successful session musician at twelve years old (excused from school to attend studios), fairly mainstream knowledge. Many shun the reality of Baker, Bruce and Clapton, only forming Cream, to highlight their own musical ability, safe in the knowledge, many popular hits, by popular bands, were penned by those 3 men and not those credited.
So some clarity needed here…being from the USA I had no knowledge that Jimmy Page was a studio musician or that he started doing that when he was 12, and I’m sure there are many people in my age group that did not know that.
Also are you saying the Baker, Clapton & Bruce did write all the Cream songs on their albums, or others wrote them? That statement is not clear to me.
I believe “Born under a Bad Sign”, Cream’s “cover” in 1968 of the same song done by Albert King in 1967 was not written by any of the three. It was written by Stax Records R&B singer William Bell and the music was by Booker T. Jones (of Booker T and the MG.’s). (I have toured the Stax Records Studio/Museum in Memphis, TN.)
And this mysterious wealthy, composer, guitar player that we have never heard of is who?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/23/iranians-moved-enriched-uranium-before-us-strikes/
400kg enriched uranium unacounted for ,moved before the attacks by either US or Israel .
About enough to make 10-16 nuclear bombs of basic design, advanced design up to 26. A very inefficient way to make nuclear weapons. Much better to breed plutonium in heavy water or graphite reactors.
Iran's focus on enrichment does not portend of a serious weapons program. Really just relevant for energy & medical/industrial/agricultural isotope production.
Wow. Those guys were smart. Incredible flick.
Smart? People were able to think critically or had 'common sense' as it was known back then. There are a lot of 'smart' people with degrees out there who are as dumb as a rubber hammer. As a matter of fact, they were some of the first ones to run out and get the Covid jab, preferably the Pfizer one of course. Too busy watching their SMART TV's.
That is for sure.
Thank You for sharing, It's time to heal humanity with Truth.
Spent a fair bit of time getting to know multiple tour Vietnam vets .
What it did to them ,addiction wasn't the least of it .
It's their voice I value on this film .
The humility of genuine argument .
That the french didn't let on about the massive tunnel system ,is simply murder .
Deja Vu: Ordinary Americans In Bars, Barber Shops, Backyards, Talk About Vietnam, 1970, After Nixon's Silent Majority Speech
"Its The Government. The Government. Just...Keeping It Going, That's All."
https://open.substack.com/pub/celiafarber/p/deja-vu-ordinary-americans-in-bars
Celia Farber Truth Barrier 2025.06.23 Mon
substack.com/@lastmohican
19:00 YouTube video simple easy to watch or listen on app in background while you multitask get stuff done
Thank you Scott, so much! As ever. 🙏🐬
The only thing about Nam that interests me is Rambo First blood Part II. But I don't think it takes place in Vietnam. The government is still a bale full of lies 60 years later.
I was in Grade 12 or 13 Ontario (same history teacher both years) so it was 1966 or 1967. Our teacher asked us what we thought the Vietnam War was for, was it for defeating communism as the Americans said? I said, "Communism has nothing to do with it." What was it then? I didn't have this ready. I remember taking a couple of seconds thought. "To prevent China from establishing a commercial empire in the Far East." I'll never forget that moment. It was a keynote of my life ever since.