Many Pilots Observe That Flaps Were Not Raised, Preventing Climb. Murdered Boeing Whistleblowers Warned Over and Over That A Dreamliner Would Crash. NOW Will Boeing Be Prosecuted?
I seriously doubt it’s engine failure. Something seriously stinks with all these plane crashes. Vacxd pilots and HAARP atmospheric energy disturbances. Then there’s the notion of ‘targeted’ passengers, and beyond that, the high profile air disaster reporting, which ramps up a general ‘fear of flying’. Globalists don’t want serfs using air travel, so giving the airline industry cancer, will be as popular as giving the serfs cancer. Plenty of reasons to think it’s not simple error anymore…
It's about creating more mental confusion. Any and all of the reasons you mention. A goal is to get humans to stop thinking --at all. AI will take care of that.
Here is the part missing in your analysis: Boeing, like most US Fortune 1000 companies, started offshoring basic technical work, mostly to the subcontinent of India. The CEOs did this to cut costs and easily help themselves to giant annual bonuses and pretend being geniuses while being traitors to their own countrymen. Once the low paid programmers were brought in remotely, some of them came to the US.
Once inside the US corporate palaces, with their fierce cultural loyalty they worked quietly and diligently to bring in and favor their fellow countrymen. The foot in the door technique was starting them out at cut rates. The H1B visas and other visas were used to bring in about 450000 of them annually at low pay rates. Amex, Verizon, Google, Adobe, Boeing, etc.. would bring in small teams initially. Whereas before a project could be handled by 5-10 highly competent US employees, soon the ranks in each project would mushroom to 50-100 of them, each of them billing the companies. When a role or contract gets posted, they make sure their countrymen are completely favored. They keep schemes with recruiting shops of their countrymen, using under the table payment schemes to their contacts inside the US mega corps. Eventually, on the inside the US giants have been gradually colonized to the point they are hardly recognizable. For example, on the inside, Amex or Verizon look like Mumbai.
The culture of the bazaar, a culture where everything is contrived gets introduced and the results have continually started showing on the outside. Boeing software is gradually "garbage-ified". Adobe software is gradually more and more contrived. Verizon services same thing.
Meanwhile, generational American graduates get routinely denied consideration for even average jobs. This colonization has accelerated, lobbying firms have been retained by them to tell politicians that "we can't find the talent". Even the VPs, C-suite execs get lied to by that crowd, telling them that "we can't find the talent inside the US", favoring their own countrymen. Over 20 years into this invasion, Silicon Valley has been colonized by hundreds of thousands of these people who have individually and collectively stolen these jobs mostly by committing massive Visa fraud. For example they would routinely claim a python programmer couldn't be found and got the job. Same for producing spreadsheets, bookkeeping, accounting, programming, Etc.
This plane crash smells of poetic consequence. The cultural invaders F'ed up the operational culture of an American company, gradually contrived its software and software design and delivery pipelines. Now the consequence. This is probably only one of several other corporate wreckages that will result from this cultural disaster. Think of these as cultural termite infestations.
You must be talking about the historical j00! I have worked for Boeing as a consultant many times Renton/Seattle/Everett/others and find it is the j00 engineer trying to cut cost/safety for their own elevation.
This reminds me of the COVID shots. Not everyone dies. Those who do usually have a weakness introduced long before. Industrial and military failures may occur because of a weakness introduced long before. It’s not a shooting gallery. It’s a pinball that hit all the right bumpers. The questions is who integrated the pinball machine into the process? Credible deniability.
It would be interesting to where the doctrine of "maximize shareholder value" came from and how it was woven into normal business practice. Maybe somebody reading this thread knows?
It may have started out innocently enough, but anymore it is a rationalization for companies to rape, pillage, and plunder (figuratively and literally) benefitting only those who are part of the club.
That was my first question!! You're so correct.....the psychopaths that run our world would never be deterred from their goals due to the numbers that will suffer!
Certainly looks like an AI foible. Also hard to imagine anyone surviving given the fireball shown in the same video. Reminds me of the passport found in the rubble on 9/11.
It doesn't, although at regular speed it's easy to make that mistake. Video is low-res, making it harder to see details clearly. If you go frame-by-frame, you see that portions of the tower's metal lattice appear white, so when when the left wing and engine (also white) pass behind it, you see tower frame, wing and engine through the tower lattice, all at the same time, and they're all the same color, giving the split-second illusion that the wing is passing in front of the tower.
From 9/11 planes (all four remain mysterious) to TWA flight 800 to the Pan Am flight 103 crash over Lockerbie and so many others, there’s no better way to scare the daylights out of people. Nowadays what’s most alarming is the fact that almost every pilot in the world was injected with mRNA - my hope is that they didn’t develop this bio weapon to be as effective as they wanted and this would account for less disasters in the sky.
Personally I prefer to fly less often than I once did.
Statistically yes, but now the entire process is nightmarish - of course, by design. And planes are disgusting. I'm not even a germophobe, but it's like a flying outhouse. Might be even grosser than the inside of theaters.
No flaps??? On takeoff with 200+ passengers and full fuel load??? Pilot error is definitely indicated no doubt.. sorry but Air India would not be my first choice flying. Maintenance of these highly sophisticated machines is crucial to their safety…God only knows, right now all else is speculation..
It was called "Shootdown" It was a paperback, very long and dense. I already read it and regret that I did. That plane was on a spy mission to USSR. Pilot was CIA, Korean.
You don't want to read it. And thank you but I don't need a copy! Still, very kind. Maybe others want to read it? I can't recall the author but he was beyond thorough.
Author appears to be R.W. Johnson. Interested parties should be able to choose from among a number of digital versions at the link below. Click on one and then easiest to use Slow Partner Server #3.
How ironic: Indians die in a plane crash where the plane's software was being written, at least in part, by Indian labor at $9-$12/hr. located just outside Boeing's Everett, WA. facility.
Don't hold your breath for any corporate ramifications for Boeing.
regarding India programmers, remember that they program what the software designers tell them to program. The problem with the 737 MAX MCAS system was not the programming, it was the design of the program, and that design was created by Boeing avionic engineers. Fortunately they redesigned that deadly software, but only after two 737 MAX crashes that killed 346 people. As I said in an earlier comment, Boeing went from being a well run company with a stellar safety record back in the last century, run by engineers and manufacturing executives to now being run by bean counters who place profit and quarterly bonuses way way way above safety.
The point is those people should have had NOTHING to do with the development of ANY software on that platform, and Boeing is the responsible party for subbing that work out to them. You're right in that the MacDonnell Douglas management that ended up taking over Boeing after the merger put the emphasis on profit over engineering excellence, and now we see the results.
don't agree. and they (whoever did the programming) really didn't have anything to do with the development of the software. You think it was the "Indian programmers" who made the decision to make MCAS point the nose down over and over and over after the pilots continued to point the nose up? All the programmers did was translate the designers intentions into code. It was the software designers who developed the software.
Unless you were there as part of the development team, you have no idea what the Indian programmers were or weren't responsible for. I spent a decade and a half doing embedded flight software for various military and commercial aircraft, and people who write the code know (or should know) what they're doing and how what they write will affect the performance of the platform or subsystem they're writing code for. Saying people who write the code "don't have anything to do with the development of the software" is nonsensical.
So you think the "Indian programmers" made the decision to continue to point the nose of the airplane down over and over and over? They made that decision and no one at Boeing in Renton, WA, caught that or questioned that, so it's all on the "Indian programmers".
And speaking of nonsensical why do you assume that just because the programmers are Indian, "those people should have had NOTHING to do with the development of ANY software on that platform"? Is it because Indians are stupid or haven't been properly trained or what? If they were part of the avionics design and programming team and they were not qualified to be part of the team, whose fault is that? Your singling out the "Indian programmers" wreaks of bigoty.
My point is that it's quite likely that the software that the Indian programmers turned out was likely substandard in quality and was also likely not tested properly. From experience I can tell you that nobody who's competent enough to write real-time, safety-critical flight software will work for $9-$12/hr, which is why the Indians were there in the first place. To be sure, that fault is on Boeing and I don't personally fault the Indians there doing the work. I will reiterate that they had no business doing that work if they were wiling to work for that kind of money. The problem is that a major part of their compensation is getting the free ticket into the country, and American programmers suffer because of it. They reduce market wages and opportunities for American citizens.
As a software engineeer with close to forty years in the business, my experience is most of the Indians here in the U.S. doing IT work are substandard, but they work for lower wages than Americans which is why they're here in the first place. They come from a country where the academic training is often very substandard and degrees are handed out based on fraud. Their culture operates on a very high degree of corruption, and they have no business here in the U.S. taking jobs away from American engineers and programmers and lowering market wages. If that makes me "bigoted", so be it.
blame pakistan as pretext for war on the subcontinent?
leverage this as fear of flying in general? remember, UN2030 SDGs say no more flying except for private jets to davos
airlines are a big part of the op - lufthansa was at event 201, british airways are buying up tons of uk forest land for gambling in future natural asset casino
"murdered Boeing whistleblowers" is the phrase above that grabbed my attention. say what!!!? not that I'm disputing this claim AT ALL; it's just that I'm flying blind here and would like additional details.
Yes, one was about to testify, the same day or the next day as he was found dead in his hotel room if I recall. And one more. You can search and it will come up.
The whole air travel industry is terrible. It is painful to fly with missed flights and too shower connection times. It's very alarming when half our family can't be easily reached. We were thinking of buying a small place in the States to spend more time closer to our children but our last flight experience was disheartening. Now these crashes to consider too.
And US Customs is getting more intrusive. Last time flying back to the US my wife and both were questioned and it's an extended "I'm just a nice guy who likes to chat" type of conversation where they pretend to be your best friend, but of course we knew he was fishing for information.
For now at least, travel in southeast Asia is much friendlier and casual. It's eye opening when you realize the highly militant attitude of the airline workers and TSA isn't actually necessary.
🎯 "It's eye opening when you realize the highly militant attitude of the airline workers and TSA isn't actually necessary." Or the workers/TSA themselves, perhaps.
Thank you for this post! I was wondering about this sole survivor in his normal clean-looking clothes! Shouldn’t he have been burnt or covered in ash or passed out or something!! And what’s with the paper ticket? I haven’t flown in years but my friends tell me you do everything on your phone, no paper tickets or boarding passes…🤔
I refuse to use a digital boarding pass. I just don't have the free hand to fumble with my screen going to sleep while the family of 5 fumbles with their boarding passes. I went "electronic" 1x and swore I would never do it again. Paper in my purse is zero-stress.
You only get a boarding pass if you stand in line a the airport ticket counter. Many airlines now have minimal staff at the airport and have ‘check in’ be a “contactless experience”.
That's an interesting ? --the paper ticket. What about the ad in Celia's report touting no-touch-nothing. What's a couple hundred dead passengers when the goal is to frighten the rest of the people in all societies.
I seriously doubt it’s engine failure. Something seriously stinks with all these plane crashes. Vacxd pilots and HAARP atmospheric energy disturbances. Then there’s the notion of ‘targeted’ passengers, and beyond that, the high profile air disaster reporting, which ramps up a general ‘fear of flying’. Globalists don’t want serfs using air travel, so giving the airline industry cancer, will be as popular as giving the serfs cancer. Plenty of reasons to think it’s not simple error anymore…
It's about creating more mental confusion. Any and all of the reasons you mention. A goal is to get humans to stop thinking --at all. AI will take care of that.
If a plane crashed at all.
I'm happy to believe it was engine failure, or at least the engine control systems failure.
Everything computerised is potentially a massive risk factor, especially if it becomes increasingly and unbelievably complex.
Here is the part missing in your analysis: Boeing, like most US Fortune 1000 companies, started offshoring basic technical work, mostly to the subcontinent of India. The CEOs did this to cut costs and easily help themselves to giant annual bonuses and pretend being geniuses while being traitors to their own countrymen. Once the low paid programmers were brought in remotely, some of them came to the US.
Once inside the US corporate palaces, with their fierce cultural loyalty they worked quietly and diligently to bring in and favor their fellow countrymen. The foot in the door technique was starting them out at cut rates. The H1B visas and other visas were used to bring in about 450000 of them annually at low pay rates. Amex, Verizon, Google, Adobe, Boeing, etc.. would bring in small teams initially. Whereas before a project could be handled by 5-10 highly competent US employees, soon the ranks in each project would mushroom to 50-100 of them, each of them billing the companies. When a role or contract gets posted, they make sure their countrymen are completely favored. They keep schemes with recruiting shops of their countrymen, using under the table payment schemes to their contacts inside the US mega corps. Eventually, on the inside the US giants have been gradually colonized to the point they are hardly recognizable. For example, on the inside, Amex or Verizon look like Mumbai.
The culture of the bazaar, a culture where everything is contrived gets introduced and the results have continually started showing on the outside. Boeing software is gradually "garbage-ified". Adobe software is gradually more and more contrived. Verizon services same thing.
Meanwhile, generational American graduates get routinely denied consideration for even average jobs. This colonization has accelerated, lobbying firms have been retained by them to tell politicians that "we can't find the talent". Even the VPs, C-suite execs get lied to by that crowd, telling them that "we can't find the talent inside the US", favoring their own countrymen. Over 20 years into this invasion, Silicon Valley has been colonized by hundreds of thousands of these people who have individually and collectively stolen these jobs mostly by committing massive Visa fraud. For example they would routinely claim a python programmer couldn't be found and got the job. Same for producing spreadsheets, bookkeeping, accounting, programming, Etc.
This plane crash smells of poetic consequence. The cultural invaders F'ed up the operational culture of an American company, gradually contrived its software and software design and delivery pipelines. Now the consequence. This is probably only one of several other corporate wreckages that will result from this cultural disaster. Think of these as cultural termite infestations.
Very insightful. I learn so much from the Comments section of Subtackers.
You must be talking about the historical j00! I have worked for Boeing as a consultant many times Renton/Seattle/Everett/others and find it is the j00 engineer trying to cut cost/safety for their own elevation.
This reminds me of the COVID shots. Not everyone dies. Those who do usually have a weakness introduced long before. Industrial and military failures may occur because of a weakness introduced long before. It’s not a shooting gallery. It’s a pinball that hit all the right bumpers. The questions is who integrated the pinball machine into the process? Credible deniability.
BINGO!! YAHTZEE!!!
It would be interesting to where the doctrine of "maximize shareholder value" came from and how it was woven into normal business practice. Maybe somebody reading this thread knows?
It may have started out innocently enough, but anymore it is a rationalization for companies to rape, pillage, and plunder (figuratively and literally) benefitting only those who are part of the club.
I want to know who was on that plane ✈️ not beyond the scope of a government taking down a whole plane just to silence one or two people
And, who was in the building it hit.
That was my first question!! You're so correct.....the psychopaths that run our world would never be deterred from their goals due to the numbers that will suffer!
Psychopaths with lethal machines that can target and annihilate humanity simply because they can! while acquiring untold wealth!
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/ai-control-of-the-us-military?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
You're assuming there were actually anybody on board. That miracle sole survivor story alone should make you question the deaths.
Classic Celia Farber! full of thought-provoking insights.
If you look at this video the plane passes right in front of the tower in the foreground. Obviously that's impossible.
https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1933165937399648447
Certainly looks like an AI foible. Also hard to imagine anyone surviving given the fireball shown in the same video. Reminds me of the passport found in the rubble on 9/11.
It doesn't, although at regular speed it's easy to make that mistake. Video is low-res, making it harder to see details clearly. If you go frame-by-frame, you see that portions of the tower's metal lattice appear white, so when when the left wing and engine (also white) pass behind it, you see tower frame, wing and engine through the tower lattice, all at the same time, and they're all the same color, giving the split-second illusion that the wing is passing in front of the tower.
The Trump administration just decided to let Boeing take a plea deal instead of making them go to trial over the 2 previous accidents.
Heads should roll for this decision.
The people who are suing Boeing are not happy.
The elite class look out for their own, while we little people bicker about "political parties"
Does a plea deal put an end to any civil lawsuits?
From 9/11 planes (all four remain mysterious) to TWA flight 800 to the Pan Am flight 103 crash over Lockerbie and so many others, there’s no better way to scare the daylights out of people. Nowadays what’s most alarming is the fact that almost every pilot in the world was injected with mRNA - my hope is that they didn’t develop this bio weapon to be as effective as they wanted and this would account for less disasters in the sky.
Personally I prefer to fly less often than I once did.
I never fly.
Flying is still safer than driving an automobile. We need more train travel.
Statistically yes, but now the entire process is nightmarish - of course, by design. And planes are disgusting. I'm not even a germophobe, but it's like a flying outhouse. Might be even grosser than the inside of theaters.
No flaps??? On takeoff with 200+ passengers and full fuel load??? Pilot error is definitely indicated no doubt.. sorry but Air India would not be my first choice flying. Maintenance of these highly sophisticated machines is crucial to their safety…God only knows, right now all else is speculation..
Please advise title of the unavailable best book about KAL Flight 007...I might be able to find it 4U.
It was called "Shootdown" It was a paperback, very long and dense. I already read it and regret that I did. That plane was on a spy mission to USSR. Pilot was CIA, Korean.
You don't want to read it. And thank you but I don't need a copy! Still, very kind. Maybe others want to read it? I can't recall the author but he was beyond thorough.
Author appears to be R.W. Johnson. Interested parties should be able to choose from among a number of digital versions at the link below. Click on one and then easiest to use Slow Partner Server #3.
https://annas-archive.org/search?q=shootdown+007
I'm happy to cancel this comment upon request or if you can and want to cancel it from your side, feel free to do so.
Your time stamp is 747 time where I live.
I think that it's good that you researched the book availability.
The list of passengers will provide clues as to motive
How ironic: Indians die in a plane crash where the plane's software was being written, at least in part, by Indian labor at $9-$12/hr. located just outside Boeing's Everett, WA. facility.
Don't hold your breath for any corporate ramifications for Boeing.
regarding India programmers, remember that they program what the software designers tell them to program. The problem with the 737 MAX MCAS system was not the programming, it was the design of the program, and that design was created by Boeing avionic engineers. Fortunately they redesigned that deadly software, but only after two 737 MAX crashes that killed 346 people. As I said in an earlier comment, Boeing went from being a well run company with a stellar safety record back in the last century, run by engineers and manufacturing executives to now being run by bean counters who place profit and quarterly bonuses way way way above safety.
The point is those people should have had NOTHING to do with the development of ANY software on that platform, and Boeing is the responsible party for subbing that work out to them. You're right in that the MacDonnell Douglas management that ended up taking over Boeing after the merger put the emphasis on profit over engineering excellence, and now we see the results.
don't agree. and they (whoever did the programming) really didn't have anything to do with the development of the software. You think it was the "Indian programmers" who made the decision to make MCAS point the nose down over and over and over after the pilots continued to point the nose up? All the programmers did was translate the designers intentions into code. It was the software designers who developed the software.
Unless you were there as part of the development team, you have no idea what the Indian programmers were or weren't responsible for. I spent a decade and a half doing embedded flight software for various military and commercial aircraft, and people who write the code know (or should know) what they're doing and how what they write will affect the performance of the platform or subsystem they're writing code for. Saying people who write the code "don't have anything to do with the development of the software" is nonsensical.
So you think the "Indian programmers" made the decision to continue to point the nose of the airplane down over and over and over? They made that decision and no one at Boeing in Renton, WA, caught that or questioned that, so it's all on the "Indian programmers".
And speaking of nonsensical why do you assume that just because the programmers are Indian, "those people should have had NOTHING to do with the development of ANY software on that platform"? Is it because Indians are stupid or haven't been properly trained or what? If they were part of the avionics design and programming team and they were not qualified to be part of the team, whose fault is that? Your singling out the "Indian programmers" wreaks of bigoty.
My point is that it's quite likely that the software that the Indian programmers turned out was likely substandard in quality and was also likely not tested properly. From experience I can tell you that nobody who's competent enough to write real-time, safety-critical flight software will work for $9-$12/hr, which is why the Indians were there in the first place. To be sure, that fault is on Boeing and I don't personally fault the Indians there doing the work. I will reiterate that they had no business doing that work if they were wiling to work for that kind of money. The problem is that a major part of their compensation is getting the free ticket into the country, and American programmers suffer because of it. They reduce market wages and opportunities for American citizens.
As a software engineeer with close to forty years in the business, my experience is most of the Indians here in the U.S. doing IT work are substandard, but they work for lower wages than Americans which is why they're here in the first place. They come from a country where the academic training is often very substandard and degrees are handed out based on fraud. Their culture operates on a very high degree of corruption, and they have no business here in the U.S. taking jobs away from American engineers and programmers and lowering market wages. If that makes me "bigoted", so be it.
not gonna do a hot take on this
let's look at this from treetop level
never let a crisis (real or imagined) go to waste
blame pakistan as pretext for war on the subcontinent?
leverage this as fear of flying in general? remember, UN2030 SDGs say no more flying except for private jets to davos
airlines are a big part of the op - lufthansa was at event 201, british airways are buying up tons of uk forest land for gambling in future natural asset casino
"murdered Boeing whistleblowers" is the phrase above that grabbed my attention. say what!!!? not that I'm disputing this claim AT ALL; it's just that I'm flying blind here and would like additional details.
Yes, one was about to testify, the same day or the next day as he was found dead in his hotel room if I recall. And one more. You can search and it will come up.
hmmm. thanks.
...NEVER fly blind.
The whole air travel industry is terrible. It is painful to fly with missed flights and too shower connection times. It's very alarming when half our family can't be easily reached. We were thinking of buying a small place in the States to spend more time closer to our children but our last flight experience was disheartening. Now these crashes to consider too.
And US Customs is getting more intrusive. Last time flying back to the US my wife and both were questioned and it's an extended "I'm just a nice guy who likes to chat" type of conversation where they pretend to be your best friend, but of course we knew he was fishing for information.
For now at least, travel in southeast Asia is much friendlier and casual. It's eye opening when you realize the highly militant attitude of the airline workers and TSA isn't actually necessary.
🎯 "It's eye opening when you realize the highly militant attitude of the airline workers and TSA isn't actually necessary." Or the workers/TSA themselves, perhaps.
Thank you for this post! I was wondering about this sole survivor in his normal clean-looking clothes! Shouldn’t he have been burnt or covered in ash or passed out or something!! And what’s with the paper ticket? I haven’t flown in years but my friends tell me you do everything on your phone, no paper tickets or boarding passes…🤔
I refuse to use a digital boarding pass. I just don't have the free hand to fumble with my screen going to sleep while the family of 5 fumbles with their boarding passes. I went "electronic" 1x and swore I would never do it again. Paper in my purse is zero-stress.
You only get a boarding pass if you stand in line a the airport ticket counter. Many airlines now have minimal staff at the airport and have ‘check in’ be a “contactless experience”.
Dawn: Many people (including me) do NOT know how to use cell phones for this.
That's an interesting ? --the paper ticket. What about the ad in Celia's report touting no-touch-nothing. What's a couple hundred dead passengers when the goal is to frighten the rest of the people in all societies.
Remember when the passenger list used to be published. Some planes have victims not for the public eye.