Admitting 20,000 Children Have Been Killed, Saying The "Kahanist, Anti-Democratic, and Messianic Elements" Are Working AGAINST The Living Hostages AND The State of Israel, (Also Held Hostage.)
My Israeli cousins (descended from a great-great....great grandfather who returned to Israel more than 300 years ago) have been protesting the Netanyahu government for years, as have many non-orthodox Jews in Israel. There is not a lot of discrimination in Israel, but the hard-liners and ultra-religious discriminate nearly much against Sephardic/Syrian/North African Jews (my maternal heritage) as they do against Muslims.
Netanyahu is a terrorist, just like Hamas. Judaism celebrates life. Netanyahu doesn't care about life as long as he can stay in power and avoid jail (something else he has in common with Trump). He is closer to the terrorists who celebrate martyrdom than he is to the teachings of Judaism.
Celia, you're going to love this. I originally wrote my bat mitzvah speech about discrimination within Israel against non-religious and Sephardic Jews. My rabbi rejected it, so I wrote a different one, which was approved.
Your Trump comments are foolish, uninformed, and not helpful. Nothing he was charged with was legitimate, and if you still think they were, you are not able to be saved.
I wasn’t talking about the charges against him, but you seem to be hung up on them. Trump was convicted of many civil & criminal offenses, and was scheduled to be sentenced had he not been reelected.
So the Israeli objectors would have ended like that if the Israeli govt were as wonderful as your HAMAS... And it's only safe to speak up in Gaza in private ways... HAMAS are the abusers..
The starvation is HAMAS' working or their own power as is told by this Gazan...
as far as ardent Israeli loyalist and current Palantir CEO Alex Karp is concerned, "the most effective way [to effectuate] social change is to humiliate your enemy and make them poorer". and Palantir co-founder and J.D. Vance's mentor/enabler Peter Thiel has opined (6:19 of video below) that the U.S. should defer to Israel in all matters related to the Middle East. as if Israel wasn't already this country's de facto hegemon.
A military duty to disobey is the duty to disobey an unlawful order, such as to fire upon unarmed civilians. In the U.S. military code it’s codified as part of the code itself, as we learned in United States Marine Corps boot camp.
A pledge by all Muslim nations surrounding Israel that they will no longer attempt to destabilize and wipe them off the map might actually end the war. It would have to include all Muslims, Arabs, Persians, everybody. Save that, the fighting continues.
Trump and Netanyahu are on the same page, but Trump is not a Chabadnik. He's a real estate developer for whom everything is transactional. Trump doesn't really care about Israel or Jews, but he wants to develop Gaza as Trump Plaza/Tower/Ocean Club. So he'll support Netanyahu's plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
That would be the real Nakba.
Two hundred years ago, Gaza was completely Jewish. Over time, Arab Muslims moved in. In 2005, a liberal Israeli government ethnically cleansed all Jews from Gaza, when it was completely turned over to the Palestinian people. They even dug up centuries worth of graves because there was no way to know whether the Arabs would do what they did when Jordan invaded East Jerusalem and the West Bank (turn over graves and use the headstones to pave roads). There was no deal. It was a hope of land for peace that didn't work.
The Netanyahu government now wants a do-over. No f'ing way. Not in my name.
The population of Palestine (~1900) prior to the Jewish proposed state, consisted of 96-97% Muslims and Christians who owned 99% of the land. Ever wonder how those churches and mosques that dated back hundreds of years and that now lies in the ruins of Gaza, were built in this “Jewish owned Gaza”? The Rothschild's project actually began in the 1800s and initially included purchasing land. The ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jew’s (which make up the vast majority of Israeli’s population) were from Khazaria (incl. Ukraine) and not the middle east. In the 6-day war in the 1967, Israel captured the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza from Egypt, most of the Golan Heights from Syria, and East Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan (countries serving as protectors for the displaced/evicted surviving Palestinians). In 2005, Israel reluctantly withdrew from its occupation of Gaza but retained control of shared borders and airspace which allowed it to control the movement of people and goods. The real history is out there, despite Israel’s and the ZOG’s attempts at erasure.
55% of Israeli Jews are the brown skinned descendants of people who were ethically cleansed from Arab Muslim countries. Egypt gave it thousand year-old Jewish community 24 hours to leave.
22% of Israel's population is Arab Muslims (with full voting and legal rights). So white Jews are not a majority.
That doesn't even make sense. What is "trollism?" What do you mean by, "Too many sons of jewish fathers are not accepted by your definitions to do anything other than transmit ethnic extinction?"
I don't see how the definitions I gave, which are the actual definitions, are trollism; nor do I understand your sentence about sons of Jewish fathers not be accepted by those definitions to do anything other than "transmit ethnic extinction." How does one "transmit ethnic extinction?"
Unless your sources are broader than that , you're merely ventilating .
And you never have to convince me of english anti semitism - they (uk) went far enough to create the same kind of monster Bibi's Palantir is repeating .
Based on the fact that neither can do their sums .
Hydrocarbon output is at heart of both Pilgrim Society and Palantir .
Net zero is (their) myopic revisionsim .
Both missed usable hydrocarbons biostratiographically dated from well over the 150Ma threshold ,as well as astounding antarctic resources well after that - ie since 100Ma ,in antarctica .
Exxon ,BP Shell (the latter of which ) have 43 % since < 2010 futures Crimean peninsula seabed extraction of 14 trillion cube metres gas from seabed . This pales into mere insignificant beligerance when Putin filed , may 2024 Weddel Sea hydrocarbon find -10 x last 50 years North Sea hydrocarbons are legally included in russia's 'right of discovery' .
The prolonging of ukr war ,like Gaza , is a hydrocarbon futures hit contract ,each death ,a profitable ''good outcome'' .
12 BP hydrocarbon exploratory licenses less than 20kms from Gazan shoreline were granted around day 126 of the Gazan debacle .
Not only did Netanyahu not have the authority to grant that - outside of OPEC interests - but he was left with the queasy necessity of covering up the fact that in academia - he floated a prior paper for 2 years before oct 7 based on questions of how to keep the tort on related production ownership & renumerative issues way from arabs in general
That is genocide ,in all aspects ,when tethered with irrevocable acts by his agents in Gaza .
Bethlehem 200 years ago was 100% Christian. I know all this because I read historical texts.
You have only listened to one false narrative.
In 1700 the only Muslims in Palestine were a few wandering Bedouin tribes.
If the Jordanians were protecting the “few remaining Palestinians“ they would have let them into Jordan. If Egypt was protecting anyone, they would’ve let Muslims from Gaza into Egypt.
No other Arab nations, want the Palestinians because they bring terrorism and disruption with them everywhere they go
Egypt shares a border with Gaza. Jordan stairs shares a border with the West Bank. What are they doing to help their “brethren?”
Google “the Islamization of Jerusalem” and learn some history.
You scream “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.“ Are you aware that that is a false translation from the Arabic, which is actually “from water to water the land will be Muslim.“
Thank you Celia for this slight silver lining in the terrible storm cloud of the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
As a Voluntaryist and draft refuser of the U.S. government’s Crimes Against Humanity Vietnam War, I look for military persons who find their humanity and refuse to obey the psychopaths.
I was curious and found these you can add to your article—note in 2014 a group of IDF “Intelligence soldiers” did it seems something even more drastic.
IDF INTELLIGENCE SOLDIERS REFUSE TO SERVE: WE WON'T WORK AGAINST INNOCENT PALESTINIANS. Ynet News, Sept 12, 2014
Letter to the prime minister signed by 43 intelligence soldiers accuses military of immoral practices against Palestinian community.
Elior Levy|Published: 09.12.14 , 10:59
Officers and soldiers in the IDF's largest, and most elite intelligence unit, known as 8200, addressed a letter to the prime minister Friday, in which the 43 signatories said that they refuse to take part in action against Palestinians or, "to be tools to deepen the military regime in the occupied territories."
It was unclear in the letter if the soldiers were refusing to follow specific orders they felt to be immoral, or if they intended not to appear for duty at all. Either action could potentially result in court martial and time in military jail.
Unit 8200 is the IDF's central intelligence gathering body and the largest unity in the Israeli military. Soldiers in 8200 are responsible for collecting and intercepting signals intelligence (SIGINT) including telephone calls, texts, e-mails and faxes among various populations.
"There is a perception that service in military intelligence is free of moral dilemmas and only contributes to the reduction of violence and harm to innocent people," the servicemen wrote in the letter. "But during military service we learned that intelligence is an inseparable part of military control in the territories."
ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE VETERANS REFUSAL LETTER Brookings, Natan Sachs September 12, 2014
Bruce Reidel points us to a public letter sent by 43 reservists of the famed “unit 8200”, the SIGINT (signals intelligence) unit of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), to the IDF Chief of Staff informing him of their refusal to serve in the future in intelligence duties related to Palestinians. (The letter was first reported in Hebrew by Gili Cohen, of Haaretz, and subsequently in English in the British Guardian).
SOME ISRAELI SOLDIERS RAISE VOICES AGAINST GAZA CONFLICT, REFUSE TO CONTINUE FIGHTING. The Online Citizen, Jan 14, 2025
A Movement for Change
Despite its small size, a movement of soldiers refusing to serve is gaining momentum.
Around 200 soldiers have signed a letter pledging to stop fighting unless the government secures a ceasefire.
Max Kresch, the organiser of the Tel Aviv conference, strongly condemned the government’s handling of the conflict.
“Enough is enough. Enough manipulation, political manipulation of this war,” Kresch said.
“We’re not going to be pawns in your war anymore. We’re raising our voices.”
Disturbing Accounts of War Practices
A CNN report in October revealed disturbing testimonies from Israeli soldiers who fought in Gaza, shedding light on the immense psychological toll the conflict has taken.
The report disclosed that bulldozers were used to clear paths by running over bodies, whether dead or alive.
One soldier, Eliran Mizrahi, a 40-year-old reservist, returned home deeply traumatised after his deployment to Gaza.
Mizrahi, a father of four, tragically took his own life six months later, his family told CNN.
SOME ISRAELI SOLDIERS REFUSE TO KEEP FIGHTING IN GAZA. Military.com, Jan 13, 2025
Yotam Vilk says the image of Israeli soldiers killing an unarmed Palestinian teenager in the Gaza Strip is seared in his mind.
An officer in the armored corps, Vilk said the instructions were to shoot any unauthorized person who entered an Israeli-controlled buffer zone in Gaza. He saw at least 12 people killed, he said, but it is the shooting of the teen that he can’t shake.
“He died as part of a bigger story. As part of the policy of staying there and not seeing Palestinians as people,” Vilk, 28, told The Associated Press.
Vilk is among a growing number of Israeli soldiers speaking out against the 15-month conflict and refusing to serve anymore, saying they saw or did things that crossed ethical lines. While the movement is small — some 200 soldiers signed a letter saying they’d stop fighting if the government didn't secure a ceasefire — soldiers say it’s the tip of the iceberg and they want others to come forward.
UK JEWISH BODY LAUNCHES PROBE INTO LETTER CRITICISING ISRAELI OFFENSIVE IN GAZA. Financial Times, April 23, 2025
Board of Deputies of British Jews suspends vice-chair and investigates signatories to criticism of Netanyahu policy
The UK’s largest Jewish representative body has suspended one of its vice-chairs and launched an investigation into three dozen of its members after they signed a letter criticising the Israeli government’s war against Hamas in Gaza. The Board of Deputies of British Jews said in a statement on Tuesday that it had taken the action over complaints from deputies after the open letter, signed by 36 of its members, was published in the Financial Times last week. The board’s action points to a growing rift within the body — which has about 300 deputies — and the UK’s Jewish community over Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s decision to resume Israel’s offensive in Gaza, as well as his far-right government’s other hardline policies. Harriett Goldenberg, vice-chair of the organisation’s international division, has been suspended while she and 35 fellow signatories are subject to a complaints investigation, the board said. In the letter — the first public show of opposition to Israel’s 18-month war against Hamas from members of the board — the deputies said they could not “turn a blind eye or remain silent at this renewed loss of life and livelihoods”. They also condemned Israeli violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, while warning that “this extremism also targets Israeli democracy”. “Israel’s soul is being ripped out and we, members of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, fear for the future of the Israel we love and have such close ties to,” the letter said. “Silence is seen as support for policies and actions that run contrary to our Jewish values.”
How is genocide really different from "ethnic cleansing"? It's all discriminatory murder. I'm always puzzled over the meaning of these words to different people. Somehow it must have something to do with guilt.
Those who believe Israel's actions constitute genocide point to the entrenched anti-Palestinianism, anti-Arab racism, Islamophobia and genocidal rhetoric in Israeli society, and point to events such as the Nakba, the Sabra and Shatila massacre, the blockade of the Gaza Strip, the 2014 Gaza War, and the Gaza war that began in 2023 as particularly pertinent genocidal episodes.[6][7] International law and genocide scholars have accused Israeli officials of using dehumanising language.[8][9][10] During the Gaza war, Israeli Holocaust historian Omer Bartov warned that statements made by high-ranking Israeli government officials "could easily be construed as indicating a genocidal intent".[11]
On 29 December 2023, South Africa filed a case against Israel at the International Court of Justice, alleging that Israel's conduct in Gaza during the 2023 war amounted to genocide.[12][13] South Africa asked the ICJ to issue provisional measures, including ordering Israel to halt its military campaign in Gaza.[12] The Israeli government agreed to defend itself at the ICJ proceedings, while also denouncing South Africa's actions as "disgraceful" and accusing it of abetting "the modern heirs of the Nazis".[14] South Africa's case has been supported by a number of countries.[15] On 26 January 2024, the ICJ issued a preliminary ruling finding that the claims in South Africa's filing were "plausible" and issued an order to Israel requiring them to take all measures within their power to prevent acts of genocide and to allow basic humanitarian services into Gaza.[16] In March 2024, the UN special rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the occupied Palestinian Territories, Francesca Albanese, issued a report stating that there were "reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission" of acts of genocide had been met. Israel rejected the report.[17][
What really makes the Zionists uncomfortable is the growing certainty that Israel's apartheid and genocidal policies are contributing mightily to the dreaded scourge of "Anti-semitism." As more and more civilians are starved to death, blown apart, buried under the rubble of their homes, it gets worse and worse for Jews everywhere.
Ironically, the apologists for Israeli genocide have conflated support for Israel, and Zionism, with support for Judaism, and hostility to one with hostility to the other. Now, ironically, the horrible spectacle of the cruelest kind of torture and mass murder has, in many minds, indeed become identified with Judaism in general. Critical thinking goes out the window when one sees limbless babies, orphaned by a limitlessly vicious and greedy Zionist regime. Our kindly good-hearted Jewish neighbors and friends could have no worse, no more dangerous enemy than Netan-yahoo and his Likud party allies, who snarl about Palestinians' being "human animals" and howl daily that "they must all be exterminated".
Bottom right "Gal Ganot" searches default to an actress with a slightly different spelling. No date in the screen shot of Y Net is also telling. So, how do you know this is real?
Netanyahu's plight has all the feel of Hitler's last bunker days. Hitler had meth. Bibi's on prostate cancer drugs. Both are bearers of dark energy upon the entire world. Will someone take Bibi out already? How hard can that be?
Mark Harris sourced this foundational 18min clip .
Deals with procrustean blattoid tendencies to approach any passerby ,in the name of Vance's fortune - with a pretentious professor's red pen ,never applied as stringently to shared ,ass licking political ''absolute free speech'' ,or ''media professors '' who historically have piss(ed) so frequently on their own chips as to mistake it for the real thing .
This is a tiny drop of glue that pastes together historical merovingiasm - genocide ,and more ...
Unless ''absolute free speech'' sources are broader than that , you're merely ventilating .
And you never have to convince me of english anti semitism - they (uk) went far enough to create the same kind of monster Bibi's Palantir is repeating .
Based on the fact that neither can do their sums .
Hydrocarbon output is at heart of both Pilgrim Society and Palantir .
Net zero is (their) myopic revisionsim .
Both missed usable hydrocarbons biostratiographically dated from well over the 150Ma threshold ,as well as astounding antarctic resources well after that - ie since 100Ma ,in antarctica .
Exxon ,BP Shell (the latter of which ) have 43 % since < 2010 futures Crimean peninsula seabed extraction of 14 trillion cube metres gas from seabed . This pales into mere insignificant beligerance when Putin filed , may 2024 Weddel Sea hydrocarbon find -10 x last 50 years North Sea hydrocarbons are legally included in russia's 'right of discovery' .
The prolonging of ukr war ,like Gaza , is a hydrocarbon futures hit contract ,each death ,a profitable ''good outcome'' .
12 BP hydrocarbon exploratory licenses less than 20kms from Gazan shoreline were granted around day 126 of the Gazan debacle .
Not only did Netanyahu not have the authority to grant that - outside of OPEC interests - but he was left with the queasy necessity of covering up the fact that in academia - he floated a prior paper for 2 years before oct 7 based on questions of how to keep the tort on related production ownership & renumerative issues way from arabs in general
That is genocide ,in all aspects ,when tethered with irrevocable acts by his agents in Gaza .
I appreciate the impulse to highlight dissent within Israel's own military ranks—particularly cyber officers, whose voices are rarely heard outside the matrix of state-approved messaging. However, let’s tread carefully before calling this a “mutiny” or a “gray refusal” with the weight to change policy. The letter, while bold, could just as easily be a symbolic gesture—one that signals moral discomfort without triggering actual structural change.
A few points of pushback:
“Illegal orders” and moral legitimacy — The use of such phrases is powerful, but vague. What orders, specifically, are they refusing? Are these refusals operational or merely rhetorical? Without action or consequences, the risk is this becomes another form of ethical branding rather than resistance.
20,000 children killed — That’s a staggering figure, but one that demands clarity: sourced how, verified by whom, and in what context? High numbers evoke horror, but unqualified statistics also risk undermining credibility—especially when facing a media landscape full of manipulated or unverifiable wartime claims.
“Held hostage” narrative — There’s a sleight of hand in equating the literal hostage-taking by Hamas with the metaphorical claim that Israel is being held hostage by “messianic elements.” That may resonate rhetorically, but it borders on conflation—muddying the real horror of the former with the political dysfunction of the latter.
Trump “raging at Netanyahu” — Is this confirmed reporting or speculative theater? Trump’s foreign policy mood swings are notorious. If this is true, it’s explosive. If not, it’s clickbait. Either way, we should be cautious about citing one-off anecdotes as evidence of a sea change.
Magic, Monarch Mind Control, and Freemasons — Here’s where things go off the rails. References to “lesser magic,” secret magicians, and Freemason-level whistleblowers undermine the power of the real political critique you're building. These ideas may carry metaphorical resonance or appeal to a certain readership, but they alienate others who might otherwise be open to questioning official narratives.
In short: you're circling powerful ideas—military dissent, manufactured consent, and the corruption of “humanitarian” branding—but when they’re layered with arcane metaphysics and mysticism, the critique loses its punch. That’s a shame, because the core thesis—that moral authority is being lost, not just in Israel but across the post-Western empire—is well worth exploring with sharper tools.
''High numbers evoke horror, but unqualified statistics also risk undermining credibility''
Quibbling blattoid .
Again the kneejerk paperbag act .
Kabbalah is the basis of modern reformed and Hasidic Judaism . So dont come it .
For someone not boasting,owning to being ,in fact Mark Crispin Miller you lay yourself open to the charge of pretending ,amongst all the 3-4 fake Spear of Longinius's -if Netanyahu ,Palantir havent got the Holy lance they sure as hell emulate the satanism of lust for it -anti metaphorically .
Prersumably why Musk ,bless his heart - is preparing a colony on furthest reacheable planet for the modern aspirant corsicans - booked your passage or are you merely indentured ?
The fact Israel makes most of the multivitamines cogent to destroying S1 related residue in pple's bodies shows that Palantir /Priory of Sion /Pilgrims Society is at the heart of the question .
Additionally its the process of intentionally making people ,worldwide ,stumble that Trump /Netanyahu have to answer for .
Newton and Debussy's signature are genuine , no spoon feeding here allowed unchallenged .
What I mean is that if Pilgrim Society is chaired by an actor (Michael Caine) that is no reason to disbelieve its historic depopulating pretensions - and the evidence thereof .
Similarly to deny Visigoth ,Merovingian historical prescence ,especially when Lord Temporal & Spiritual - absolutism was coined as the true root of the double pope at Avignon ; Cathars ,each of which would rather die than deny , is reductionist ,and myopic .
Charlemagne 8th cent was the first holder (in the sense of Lord Temporal and Lord Spiritual conflating any future church and state ) of the spear of Longinius - of which the overly incredulous speak but little .
Three fakes are kicking around ,but the ideas are toxic ,genocidal ,and parsimonious .
I can imagine true Israelites refusing to swallow a camel ,but this gnat got through .
Please dont believe me ,but DO check page 21 of Mein Kampf - its about how the demon possession of Hitler occured ,penned from his own experience - as he meditated for hours in front of Viennese Museum's version of spear of Longinius .
So for you to be so anxious to ignore the spear and truncate it into mere ''anti-semitism'' is to make two fatal errors.
The first - no single word may be contexturalised by pseudo zionistic pretences.(Especially from West Bank Iranians)
Secondly there is implicit agreement that crusades had merovingiasm at their root in your denial to call Gaza a genocide .
So you have not been consequent in your research ,or zionism .
My Israeli cousins (descended from a great-great....great grandfather who returned to Israel more than 300 years ago) have been protesting the Netanyahu government for years, as have many non-orthodox Jews in Israel. There is not a lot of discrimination in Israel, but the hard-liners and ultra-religious discriminate nearly much against Sephardic/Syrian/North African Jews (my maternal heritage) as they do against Muslims.
Netanyahu is a terrorist, just like Hamas. Judaism celebrates life. Netanyahu doesn't care about life as long as he can stay in power and avoid jail (something else he has in common with Trump). He is closer to the terrorists who celebrate martyrdom than he is to the teachings of Judaism.
Celia, you're going to love this. I originally wrote my bat mitzvah speech about discrimination within Israel against non-religious and Sephardic Jews. My rabbi rejected it, so I wrote a different one, which was approved.
Then I gave the original speech.
Way to go - I hope you're still giggling about that speech!
And how did the rabbi react to your antics?
He was quite pissed
Your Trump comments are foolish, uninformed, and not helpful. Nothing he was charged with was legitimate, and if you still think they were, you are not able to be saved.
I wasn’t talking about the charges against him, but you seem to be hung up on them. Trump was convicted of many civil & criminal offenses, and was scheduled to be sentenced had he not been reelected.
We are discussing the Middle East right now.
Try to focus.
BS.. the ''convictions'' were straight up a time wasting tactic to detract from campaigning with fighting appeals vs the nonsense..
And as for the Gazans, they are the captives of HAMAS... HAMAS will execute horrifically any Gazan who objects to how they are governed.. like this one.. https://jihadwatch.org/2025/06/hamas-brutally-executes-gaza-dissenter-in-open-square
So the Israeli objectors would have ended like that if the Israeli govt were as wonderful as your HAMAS... And it's only safe to speak up in Gaza in private ways... HAMAS are the abusers..
The starvation is HAMAS' working or their own power as is told by this Gazan...
https://jihadwatch.org/2025/06/gaza-resident-on-hamas-theyre-criminals-like-isis-shooting-at-civilians-and-idf-as-it-tries-to-deliver-aid
Even the Washington Post had to RETRACT THE LIE THAT ISRAEL WAS THE KILLERS.. Check the retraction and retract your own lie-spewing..
https://jihadwatch.org/2025/06/after-two-million-people-read-the-falsehood-washington-post-issued-a-correction
No truth from you../ ttyna
Most of what you wrote is true, not contradicted by what I wrote and, in fact, not addressed in my comment.
The convictions were a waste of time because Merrick Garland waited too damned long to appoint a special prosecutor.
lol!
good job!
as far as ardent Israeli loyalist and current Palantir CEO Alex Karp is concerned, "the most effective way [to effectuate] social change is to humiliate your enemy and make them poorer". and Palantir co-founder and J.D. Vance's mentor/enabler Peter Thiel has opined (6:19 of video below) that the U.S. should defer to Israel in all matters related to the Middle East. as if Israel wasn't already this country's de facto hegemon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1wz_jAURZY
I am rapidly beginning to dislike Mr Peter Thiel quite intensely.
you and me both. these days, i.e., in post-apocalyptic Wasmerica, villainy this unabashed not only survives; it thrives.
''Untruth roams from field to field ,sharing notes from neighboring untruths .
But that which is sung softly booms ,what's read in whispers ,thunders .''
(Aleksander Galich Ginzeburg .)
Greenwald has which buisness interests ?
His (Palantir's Alex Karp) prioritising military placement matches the highly questionable Rutte ,teaching uk how to suck nuclear eggs .
Eating out of same trough .
13 mins shows Karp's pythonic ultimate depersonalisation .
Mowgli's ability to break eye contact vital .\ for life .
rat, meet sinking ship
inquiring minds want to know where these 41 were on 10/7.
or where they were in 2005-06. blowing up palestinian ambulances?
how many dead kids is too many?
Because it's never enough
A military duty to disobey is the duty to disobey an unlawful order, such as to fire upon unarmed civilians. In the U.S. military code it’s codified as part of the code itself, as we learned in United States Marine Corps boot camp.
A pledge by all Muslim nations surrounding Israel that they will no longer attempt to destabilize and wipe them off the map might actually end the war. It would have to include all Muslims, Arabs, Persians, everybody. Save that, the fighting continues.
Netanyahu is part of Chabad Lubavitch, the main drivers of the Noahide Laws.
Trump—at the least—is an Chabadnik, having been to Rabbi Schneerson's grave.
I think Trump and Netanyahu are on the same page, serving their master satan.
Trump and Netanyahu are on the same page, but Trump is not a Chabadnik. He's a real estate developer for whom everything is transactional. Trump doesn't really care about Israel or Jews, but he wants to develop Gaza as Trump Plaza/Tower/Ocean Club. So he'll support Netanyahu's plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
That would be the real Nakba.
Two hundred years ago, Gaza was completely Jewish. Over time, Arab Muslims moved in. In 2005, a liberal Israeli government ethnically cleansed all Jews from Gaza, when it was completely turned over to the Palestinian people. They even dug up centuries worth of graves because there was no way to know whether the Arabs would do what they did when Jordan invaded East Jerusalem and the West Bank (turn over graves and use the headstones to pave roads). There was no deal. It was a hope of land for peace that didn't work.
The Netanyahu government now wants a do-over. No f'ing way. Not in my name.
The population of Palestine (~1900) prior to the Jewish proposed state, consisted of 96-97% Muslims and Christians who owned 99% of the land. Ever wonder how those churches and mosques that dated back hundreds of years and that now lies in the ruins of Gaza, were built in this “Jewish owned Gaza”? The Rothschild's project actually began in the 1800s and initially included purchasing land. The ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jew’s (which make up the vast majority of Israeli’s population) were from Khazaria (incl. Ukraine) and not the middle east. In the 6-day war in the 1967, Israel captured the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza from Egypt, most of the Golan Heights from Syria, and East Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan (countries serving as protectors for the displaced/evicted surviving Palestinians). In 2005, Israel reluctantly withdrew from its occupation of Gaza but retained control of shared borders and airspace which allowed it to control the movement of people and goods. The real history is out there, despite Israel’s and the ZOG’s attempts at erasure.
55% of Israeli Jews are the brown skinned descendants of people who were ethically cleansed from Arab Muslim countries. Egypt gave it thousand year-old Jewish community 24 hours to leave.
22% of Israel's population is Arab Muslims (with full voting and legal rights). So white Jews are not a majority.
Go to Israel and see for yourself.
Sounds like false statements, and certainly is false as to who created the "state of Israel." Not brown skinned descendants of Arab countries.
and there we have it ,trollism loud and clear .
We do not exist to take your shame ,salve zionistic consciences .
Too many sons of jewish fathers are not accepted by your definitions to do anything other than transmit ethnic extinction .
Try again ,
Harder .
You may be believed - for less than 10 seconds .
That doesn't even make sense. What is "trollism?" What do you mean by, "Too many sons of jewish fathers are not accepted by your definitions to do anything other than transmit ethnic extinction?"
I don't see how the definitions I gave, which are the actual definitions, are trollism; nor do I understand your sentence about sons of Jewish fathers not be accepted by those definitions to do anything other than "transmit ethnic extinction." How does one "transmit ethnic extinction?"
A troll ''ventriloquises '' .
is defined ,because you do not deny abuse of CF yesterday ,as RR .
is defined in revisionistic anti historical impulses .
Ubiquitos use thereof .
- mildly conceptual aparteid on the basis of maternalistic definitions of ''bloodline' jewishness is axiomatic false circumcision heartland .
-Thirdly ,you like to ventriloquise -openly admitted above ,done 3x ,gratuitiously .
Watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1wz_jAURZY ,just 18 mins .
And post on main - you have nothing to gain posting midpage ,
''Two hundred years ago, Gaza was completely Jewish''
Sources please .
Nothing matches what you say .
At all
You are RR yesterday ,who got banned
no ?
Certainly you have a palpable public contempt for authority .
Karp ,clones thereof
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/naftali-berezin-794228287_ethnic-cleansing-of-gaza-by-the-british-activity-7338229712751685632-qV44?utm_medium=ios_app&rcm=ACoAAAHJJlwBBbY0PJDbRcnO7OaXuWQ7T8Sy5l0&utm_source=social_share_send&utm_campaign=copy_link
Here you go
dont accept linkedin is not palantir .
Unless your sources are broader than that , you're merely ventilating .
And you never have to convince me of english anti semitism - they (uk) went far enough to create the same kind of monster Bibi's Palantir is repeating .
Based on the fact that neither can do their sums .
Hydrocarbon output is at heart of both Pilgrim Society and Palantir .
Net zero is (their) myopic revisionsim .
Both missed usable hydrocarbons biostratiographically dated from well over the 150Ma threshold ,as well as astounding antarctic resources well after that - ie since 100Ma ,in antarctica .
Exxon ,BP Shell (the latter of which ) have 43 % since < 2010 futures Crimean peninsula seabed extraction of 14 trillion cube metres gas from seabed . This pales into mere insignificant beligerance when Putin filed , may 2024 Weddel Sea hydrocarbon find -10 x last 50 years North Sea hydrocarbons are legally included in russia's 'right of discovery' .
The prolonging of ukr war ,like Gaza , is a hydrocarbon futures hit contract ,each death ,a profitable ''good outcome'' .
12 BP hydrocarbon exploratory licenses less than 20kms from Gazan shoreline were granted around day 126 of the Gazan debacle .
Not only did Netanyahu not have the authority to grant that - outside of OPEC interests - but he was left with the queasy necessity of covering up the fact that in academia - he floated a prior paper for 2 years before oct 7 based on questions of how to keep the tort on related production ownership & renumerative issues way from arabs in general
That is genocide ,in all aspects ,when tethered with irrevocable acts by his agents in Gaza .
Bethlehem 200 years ago was 100% Christian. I know all this because I read historical texts.
You have only listened to one false narrative.
In 1700 the only Muslims in Palestine were a few wandering Bedouin tribes.
If the Jordanians were protecting the “few remaining Palestinians“ they would have let them into Jordan. If Egypt was protecting anyone, they would’ve let Muslims from Gaza into Egypt.
No other Arab nations, want the Palestinians because they bring terrorism and disruption with them everywhere they go
Egypt shares a border with Gaza. Jordan stairs shares a border with the West Bank. What are they doing to help their “brethren?”
Google “the Islamization of Jerusalem” and learn some history.
You scream “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.“ Are you aware that that is a false translation from the Arabic, which is actually “from water to water the land will be Muslim.“
I listen to everything - patronise someone else
Ventriloquism ''You scream'' is typical for anyone refusing to reason ,RR.
But your only quotable source is west bank Iranian backed narrative?
Thank you Celia for this slight silver lining in the terrible storm cloud of the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
As a Voluntaryist and draft refuser of the U.S. government’s Crimes Against Humanity Vietnam War, I look for military persons who find their humanity and refuse to obey the psychopaths.
I was curious and found these you can add to your article—note in 2014 a group of IDF “Intelligence soldiers” did it seems something even more drastic.
IDF INTELLIGENCE SOLDIERS REFUSE TO SERVE: WE WON'T WORK AGAINST INNOCENT PALESTINIANS. Ynet News, Sept 12, 2014
Letter to the prime minister signed by 43 intelligence soldiers accuses military of immoral practices against Palestinian community.
Elior Levy|Published: 09.12.14 , 10:59
Officers and soldiers in the IDF's largest, and most elite intelligence unit, known as 8200, addressed a letter to the prime minister Friday, in which the 43 signatories said that they refuse to take part in action against Palestinians or, "to be tools to deepen the military regime in the occupied territories."
It was unclear in the letter if the soldiers were refusing to follow specific orders they felt to be immoral, or if they intended not to appear for duty at all. Either action could potentially result in court martial and time in military jail.
Unit 8200 is the IDF's central intelligence gathering body and the largest unity in the Israeli military. Soldiers in 8200 are responsible for collecting and intercepting signals intelligence (SIGINT) including telephone calls, texts, e-mails and faxes among various populations.
"There is a perception that service in military intelligence is free of moral dilemmas and only contributes to the reduction of violence and harm to innocent people," the servicemen wrote in the letter. "But during military service we learned that intelligence is an inseparable part of military control in the territories."
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4570256,00.html
ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE VETERANS REFUSAL LETTER Brookings, Natan Sachs September 12, 2014
Bruce Reidel points us to a public letter sent by 43 reservists of the famed “unit 8200”, the SIGINT (signals intelligence) unit of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), to the IDF Chief of Staff informing him of their refusal to serve in the future in intelligence duties related to Palestinians. (The letter was first reported in Hebrew by Gili Cohen, of Haaretz, and subsequently in English in the British Guardian).
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/israeli-intelligence-veterans-refusal-letter/
SOME ISRAELI SOLDIERS RAISE VOICES AGAINST GAZA CONFLICT, REFUSE TO CONTINUE FIGHTING. The Online Citizen, Jan 14, 2025
A Movement for Change
Despite its small size, a movement of soldiers refusing to serve is gaining momentum.
Around 200 soldiers have signed a letter pledging to stop fighting unless the government secures a ceasefire.
Max Kresch, the organiser of the Tel Aviv conference, strongly condemned the government’s handling of the conflict.
“Enough is enough. Enough manipulation, political manipulation of this war,” Kresch said.
“We’re not going to be pawns in your war anymore. We’re raising our voices.”
Disturbing Accounts of War Practices
A CNN report in October revealed disturbing testimonies from Israeli soldiers who fought in Gaza, shedding light on the immense psychological toll the conflict has taken.
The report disclosed that bulldozers were used to clear paths by running over bodies, whether dead or alive.
One soldier, Eliran Mizrahi, a 40-year-old reservist, returned home deeply traumatised after his deployment to Gaza.
Mizrahi, a father of four, tragically took his own life six months later, his family told CNN.
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2025/01/14/some-israeli-soldiers-raise-voices-against-gaza-conflict-refuse-to-continue-fighting/
SOME ISRAELI SOLDIERS REFUSE TO KEEP FIGHTING IN GAZA. Military.com, Jan 13, 2025
Yotam Vilk says the image of Israeli soldiers killing an unarmed Palestinian teenager in the Gaza Strip is seared in his mind.
An officer in the armored corps, Vilk said the instructions were to shoot any unauthorized person who entered an Israeli-controlled buffer zone in Gaza. He saw at least 12 people killed, he said, but it is the shooting of the teen that he can’t shake.
“He died as part of a bigger story. As part of the policy of staying there and not seeing Palestinians as people,” Vilk, 28, told The Associated Press.
Vilk is among a growing number of Israeli soldiers speaking out against the 15-month conflict and refusing to serve anymore, saying they saw or did things that crossed ethical lines. While the movement is small — some 200 soldiers signed a letter saying they’d stop fighting if the government didn't secure a ceasefire — soldiers say it’s the tip of the iceberg and they want others to come forward.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/13/some-israeli-soldiers-refuse-keep-fighting-gaza.html
UK JEWISH BODY LAUNCHES PROBE INTO LETTER CRITICISING ISRAELI OFFENSIVE IN GAZA. Financial Times, April 23, 2025
Board of Deputies of British Jews suspends vice-chair and investigates signatories to criticism of Netanyahu policy
The UK’s largest Jewish representative body has suspended one of its vice-chairs and launched an investigation into three dozen of its members after they signed a letter criticising the Israeli government’s war against Hamas in Gaza. The Board of Deputies of British Jews said in a statement on Tuesday that it had taken the action over complaints from deputies after the open letter, signed by 36 of its members, was published in the Financial Times last week. The board’s action points to a growing rift within the body — which has about 300 deputies — and the UK’s Jewish community over Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s decision to resume Israel’s offensive in Gaza, as well as his far-right government’s other hardline policies. Harriett Goldenberg, vice-chair of the organisation’s international division, has been suspended while she and 35 fellow signatories are subject to a complaints investigation, the board said. In the letter — the first public show of opposition to Israel’s 18-month war against Hamas from members of the board — the deputies said they could not “turn a blind eye or remain silent at this renewed loss of life and livelihoods”. They also condemned Israeli violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, while warning that “this extremism also targets Israeli democracy”. “Israel’s soul is being ripped out and we, members of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, fear for the future of the Israel we love and have such close ties to,” the letter said. “Silence is seen as support for policies and actions that run contrary to our Jewish values.”
https://www.ft.com/content/4af46399-6287-4f1f-9251-aed6cc275b05
Please don't call it a genocide. Call it war crimes. Call it ethnic cleansing of Gaza (which Netanyahu and Trump want to do). But it is not genocide.
How is genocide really different from "ethnic cleansing"? It's all discriminatory murder. I'm always puzzled over the meaning of these words to different people. Somehow it must have something to do with guilt.
Ethnic cleansing means removing a population from a specific piece of land. Genocide is killing everyone of a certain race, nationality or faith.
Problem is it has always been removable by any means necessary.
Amnesty International investigation concludes Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza Dec 5, 2024
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/
Palestinian genocide accusation Wikipedia
Those who believe Israel's actions constitute genocide point to the entrenched anti-Palestinianism, anti-Arab racism, Islamophobia and genocidal rhetoric in Israeli society, and point to events such as the Nakba, the Sabra and Shatila massacre, the blockade of the Gaza Strip, the 2014 Gaza War, and the Gaza war that began in 2023 as particularly pertinent genocidal episodes.[6][7] International law and genocide scholars have accused Israeli officials of using dehumanising language.[8][9][10] During the Gaza war, Israeli Holocaust historian Omer Bartov warned that statements made by high-ranking Israeli government officials "could easily be construed as indicating a genocidal intent".[11]
On 29 December 2023, South Africa filed a case against Israel at the International Court of Justice, alleging that Israel's conduct in Gaza during the 2023 war amounted to genocide.[12][13] South Africa asked the ICJ to issue provisional measures, including ordering Israel to halt its military campaign in Gaza.[12] The Israeli government agreed to defend itself at the ICJ proceedings, while also denouncing South Africa's actions as "disgraceful" and accusing it of abetting "the modern heirs of the Nazis".[14] South Africa's case has been supported by a number of countries.[15] On 26 January 2024, the ICJ issued a preliminary ruling finding that the claims in South Africa's filing were "plausible" and issued an order to Israel requiring them to take all measures within their power to prevent acts of genocide and to allow basic humanitarian services into Gaza.[16] In March 2024, the UN special rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the occupied Palestinian Territories, Francesca Albanese, issued a report stating that there were "reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission" of acts of genocide had been met. Israel rejected the report.[17][
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation
Are you for real?
But chiefest UK lawgivers ,all NL same see all criteria as matching genocide .
To pull punches solves nothing .
As an unwilling student of genocide ,with decades of hard copy library that reflects too much -
I beg to differ .
Gaza is definately even clearer a genocide than the much torted Aremenian Genocide '.
So calling Gaza a ''Holocaust'' is ''anti -semitic'' (?) is where your pulling punches gets you .
What really makes the Zionists uncomfortable is the growing certainty that Israel's apartheid and genocidal policies are contributing mightily to the dreaded scourge of "Anti-semitism." As more and more civilians are starved to death, blown apart, buried under the rubble of their homes, it gets worse and worse for Jews everywhere.
Ironically, the apologists for Israeli genocide have conflated support for Israel, and Zionism, with support for Judaism, and hostility to one with hostility to the other. Now, ironically, the horrible spectacle of the cruelest kind of torture and mass murder has, in many minds, indeed become identified with Judaism in general. Critical thinking goes out the window when one sees limbless babies, orphaned by a limitlessly vicious and greedy Zionist regime. Our kindly good-hearted Jewish neighbors and friends could have no worse, no more dangerous enemy than Netan-yahoo and his Likud party allies, who snarl about Palestinians' being "human animals" and howl daily that "they must all be exterminated".
A Jew-only State practicing apartheid? Good golly miss molly!
But Palantir 's Karp is at the centre of this disinformative revisionism .Cudos to Mark Harris for sourcing this today .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1wz_jAURZY
the psy-op reveals its obvious head in 18 short minutes .
Greenwald is sparse ,contained ,
& obliterative .
Must say that Thiel ,as a New Zealander ,is totally unrecognisable .
Karp has all the indications of a psychopath .
Both the most dehumanising on the planet .
Oh, come on people, subscribe more, please!
I want to see the orange badge of honor in this substack!
Orange is more credible than all those stupid purple badges that no one knows!
As an aside -really appreciate the paypal button still ,Celia !! .
Used again today ..
-AR-What is the constitutional R ''jelly'' with W afterthought ??
Some donators hope to render effort clarifying stumbling blocks (,not one sided ) mutually reassuring ..
If only differences can be responsibly reversed !
I cannot see CF in need without knowing those who did this to her / RFK - will be defeated .
-The 41 are at the mercy of Rutte ,whose perpetration of table 34 cannot be overestimated .
So a decent debate on Yogokarta Principles ,Kinsey's table 34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtElwdfCUTc
would shine a much needed light on the virtue signalling of Nato head (s)
I dislike Rutte less than Stoltenberg ,but the electron microscope able to disern how much less . . has yet to be conceived .
As well as a quick check to see if Dan McConnel is ventriloquising
https://archive.org/details/a-different-gospel-dan-r.-mcconnell
I have seen so many stumble harder than their own tripped up energy ever deserves .
Paul's command to ''contend for the gospel'' means conviviality is dependant on ironed out truth ,in relationship .
But really appreciate the forum .
I for one would like to see the actual article. https://www.ynetnews.com/category/3083
Bottom right "Gal Ganot" searches default to an actress with a slightly different spelling. No date in the screen shot of Y Net is also telling. So, how do you know this is real?
It is time to end the Nazi genocide in Gaza.
Netanyahu's plight has all the feel of Hitler's last bunker days. Hitler had meth. Bibi's on prostate cancer drugs. Both are bearers of dark energy upon the entire world. Will someone take Bibi out already? How hard can that be?
Mark Harris sourced this foundational 18min clip .
Deals with procrustean blattoid tendencies to approach any passerby ,in the name of Vance's fortune - with a pretentious professor's red pen ,never applied as stringently to shared ,ass licking political ''absolute free speech'' ,or ''media professors '' who historically have piss(ed) so frequently on their own chips as to mistake it for the real thing .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1wz_jAURZY
This is a tiny drop of glue that pastes together historical merovingiasm - genocide ,and more ...
Unless ''absolute free speech'' sources are broader than that , you're merely ventilating .
And you never have to convince me of english anti semitism - they (uk) went far enough to create the same kind of monster Bibi's Palantir is repeating .
Based on the fact that neither can do their sums .
Hydrocarbon output is at heart of both Pilgrim Society and Palantir .
Net zero is (their) myopic revisionsim .
Both missed usable hydrocarbons biostratiographically dated from well over the 150Ma threshold ,as well as astounding antarctic resources well after that - ie since 100Ma ,in antarctica .
Exxon ,BP Shell (the latter of which ) have 43 % since < 2010 futures Crimean peninsula seabed extraction of 14 trillion cube metres gas from seabed . This pales into mere insignificant beligerance when Putin filed , may 2024 Weddel Sea hydrocarbon find -10 x last 50 years North Sea hydrocarbons are legally included in russia's 'right of discovery' .
The prolonging of ukr war ,like Gaza , is a hydrocarbon futures hit contract ,each death ,a profitable ''good outcome'' .
12 BP hydrocarbon exploratory licenses less than 20kms from Gazan shoreline were granted around day 126 of the Gazan debacle .
Not only did Netanyahu not have the authority to grant that - outside of OPEC interests - but he was left with the queasy necessity of covering up the fact that in academia - he floated a prior paper for 2 years before oct 7 based on questions of how to keep the tort on related production ownership & renumerative issues way from arabs in general
That is genocide ,in all aspects ,when tethered with irrevocable acts by his agents in Gaza .
Celia,
I appreciate the impulse to highlight dissent within Israel's own military ranks—particularly cyber officers, whose voices are rarely heard outside the matrix of state-approved messaging. However, let’s tread carefully before calling this a “mutiny” or a “gray refusal” with the weight to change policy. The letter, while bold, could just as easily be a symbolic gesture—one that signals moral discomfort without triggering actual structural change.
A few points of pushback:
“Illegal orders” and moral legitimacy — The use of such phrases is powerful, but vague. What orders, specifically, are they refusing? Are these refusals operational or merely rhetorical? Without action or consequences, the risk is this becomes another form of ethical branding rather than resistance.
20,000 children killed — That’s a staggering figure, but one that demands clarity: sourced how, verified by whom, and in what context? High numbers evoke horror, but unqualified statistics also risk undermining credibility—especially when facing a media landscape full of manipulated or unverifiable wartime claims.
“Held hostage” narrative — There’s a sleight of hand in equating the literal hostage-taking by Hamas with the metaphorical claim that Israel is being held hostage by “messianic elements.” That may resonate rhetorically, but it borders on conflation—muddying the real horror of the former with the political dysfunction of the latter.
Trump “raging at Netanyahu” — Is this confirmed reporting or speculative theater? Trump’s foreign policy mood swings are notorious. If this is true, it’s explosive. If not, it’s clickbait. Either way, we should be cautious about citing one-off anecdotes as evidence of a sea change.
Magic, Monarch Mind Control, and Freemasons — Here’s where things go off the rails. References to “lesser magic,” secret magicians, and Freemason-level whistleblowers undermine the power of the real political critique you're building. These ideas may carry metaphorical resonance or appeal to a certain readership, but they alienate others who might otherwise be open to questioning official narratives.
In short: you're circling powerful ideas—military dissent, manufactured consent, and the corruption of “humanitarian” branding—but when they’re layered with arcane metaphysics and mysticism, the critique loses its punch. That’s a shame, because the core thesis—that moral authority is being lost, not just in Israel but across the post-Western empire—is well worth exploring with sharper tools.
''High numbers evoke horror, but unqualified statistics also risk undermining credibility''
Quibbling blattoid .
Again the kneejerk paperbag act .
Kabbalah is the basis of modern reformed and Hasidic Judaism . So dont come it .
For someone not boasting,owning to being ,in fact Mark Crispin Miller you lay yourself open to the charge of pretending ,amongst all the 3-4 fake Spear of Longinius's -if Netanyahu ,Palantir havent got the Holy lance they sure as hell emulate the satanism of lust for it -anti metaphorically .
Prersumably why Musk ,bless his heart - is preparing a colony on furthest reacheable planet for the modern aspirant corsicans - booked your passage or are you merely indentured ?
Your terrorist brothers Hamas refused all agreements if they had to give up the 2 dozen living hostages.
41 is a start .
The fact Israel makes most of the multivitamines cogent to destroying S1 related residue in pple's bodies shows that Palantir /Priory of Sion /Pilgrims Society is at the heart of the question .
Additionally its the process of intentionally making people ,worldwide ,stumble that Trump /Netanyahu have to answer for .
The Priory of Sion is an anti-Semitic fabrication.
Trump and Netanyahu are ego-centric murderers.
You have not seen the HQ architectural layout then ,in France .Or Debussy's signature ?
https://andrewgough.co.uk/articles_sulpice/
(as against authenticity ,but well researched ,if overly incredulous)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennes-le-Ch%C3%A2teau
Newton and Debussy's signature are genuine , no spoon feeding here allowed unchallenged .
What I mean is that if Pilgrim Society is chaired by an actor (Michael Caine) that is no reason to disbelieve its historic depopulating pretensions - and the evidence thereof .
Similarly to deny Visigoth ,Merovingian historical prescence ,especially when Lord Temporal & Spiritual - absolutism was coined as the true root of the double pope at Avignon ; Cathars ,each of which would rather die than deny , is reductionist ,and myopic .
Charlemagne 8th cent was the first holder (in the sense of Lord Temporal and Lord Spiritual conflating any future church and state ) of the spear of Longinius - of which the overly incredulous speak but little .
Three fakes are kicking around ,but the ideas are toxic ,genocidal ,and parsimonious .
I can imagine true Israelites refusing to swallow a camel ,but this gnat got through .
Please dont believe me ,but DO check page 21 of Mein Kampf - its about how the demon possession of Hitler occured ,penned from his own experience - as he meditated for hours in front of Viennese Museum's version of spear of Longinius .
So for you to be so anxious to ignore the spear and truncate it into mere ''anti-semitism'' is to make two fatal errors.
The first - no single word may be contexturalised by pseudo zionistic pretences.(Especially from West Bank Iranians)
Secondly there is implicit agreement that crusades had merovingiasm at their root in your denial to call Gaza a genocide .
So you have not been consequent in your research ,or zionism .