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Jim's avatar
May 20Edited

Breaking news: Kash proclaims Oswald acted alone and Osama bin Laden did 9/11. Move along peons. Nothing to see here.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Nice! And Water is Not Wet!

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

And ocean front property in the desert

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Bassehound's avatar

👏

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Renee Marie's avatar

Two planes destroyed the WTC and Bldg 7, we went to the moon in the 1960’s, and the USS Liberty was an accident.

Would you like to buy some waterfront property in the Sahara Desert?

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John Day MD's avatar

Yeah, I saw that too. Who are they messaging that they accept Epstein as off-limits?

It's not Team Clinton, so it must be Mossad, right?

Personally, I am of the studied opinion that a guy who resembled Epstein, but with different ear whorls, and a little different nose and brows, was strangled to death, "identified" without DNA or fingerprints, and cremated.

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Celia Farber's avatar

There's many angles I did not include in this one, for now, including the "conspiracy theory" that they sacrificed Hillary's brother to be the official Epstein corpse. They are very similar looking but I think perhaps I was simply not ready to take it on. Yet.

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John Day MD's avatar

"Thank you for considering that", Celia.

;-}

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Oh did Killary’s brother meet an untimely death? 🤔

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Tim Groves's avatar

Wow! I just checked and it seems he did—in 2019 at the age of 64. And there is a slight resemblance to Jeffrey Epstein.

Wikipedia makes him out as a chronic thorn in the side of the Clintons. And it states the cause of death was not announced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rodham

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Tim Groves's avatar

Hi Dr. John! Since it was a psyop, there was really no need to strangle anyone. We were shown what they wanted us to see, lying on a gurney—someone who resembled Epstein, but who seemed not quite Epstein.

I haven't studied this case, but as far as I can see, from a position of ignorance, the simplest explanation is that it was a Spitting Image-type puppet. Is there any evidence that strongly suggests somebody really died or was killed in that cell on that night?

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Celia Farber's avatar

Exacly. "Not quite." Close but no cigar.

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John Day MD's avatar

Somebody's hyoid bone was broken in 3 places, which a garrot will do.

No DNA; no fingerprints, somebody...

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Tim Groves's avatar

So, you are satisfied that there was a corpse, and that a bonafide autopsy was conducted, but that the body was not that of Jeffrey Epstein?

Were the people conducting the autopsy aware that the corpse was not Epstein or did the body switch fool them too? Wouldn't they have ways of confirming the identity of the corpse? Surely they would look for identifying marks, consult photographs, dental records, other medical records, fingerprints (if these things were available)?

If the corpse wasn't —and I'm only saying "if"— then NY's Chief Medical Officer Barbara Sampson, who conducted the autopsy, would have had to be in on it. And if she was in on that, she could have equally well have been in on a pretend autopsy.

I repeat, why murder a person merely in order to fake another person's suicide, when it is possible to fake that person's suicide without going to the bother of murdering anyone?

I'm only hypothesizing, and not making any claims, but I'm wondering how much of the evidence the public has been exposed can be shown to be legitimate, so that we can set a boundary on the possible in this case. For instance, I suppose it is safe to say that Epstein wasn't whisked away by extraterrestrials.

Last year I was listening to an entertaining interview with Eric Weinstein, and he was explaining that Jeffrey Epstein may not have been a real individual in the first place, but could instead have been a character played by an actor on occasions when a public appearance was needed. That hypothesis appealed to me, although I admit it is probably wrong an possibly misdirection.

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John Day MD's avatar

"Satisfied" is a pretty high bar, but we saw snippets and constructed our narratives without adequate proof. There has been no adequate proof for any degree of certainty, right?

There were a couple of pictures of a beaten-up corpse on a gurney, and the ear-whorls did not correspond to Epstein's ear whorls in other photos, nor did the facial features pass on close comparison with prior photos; not quite.

What would be the value of killing somebody aand having a corpse, upon which to do most of an autopsy, with just brother-identification, not DNA or fingerprints?

It was clear that the cameras were off and the guards were "sleeping" as it went down, so that there could be no mistake in the message that the machine was fully-complicit operating at all levels of control to fake the suicide.

The hyoid bone fractured in 3 places on autopsy made it clear that this was a murder by garrot.

The subtle differences in photographic analysis of ears and face make it potentially clear that Epstein was not the murder victim, implying that he was extracted, "Mission Impossible" style, an impressive feat to demonstrate full-control of the whole system, top to bottom.

I assert that this message was to the large audience of complicit people across the world, who serve the Mossad, CIA & MI-6 in various compromised capacities, and it was a message of reassurance.

They were shown that they would be valued, and that they were safe to continue to do their corrupt jobs, secure in the knowledge that the Epstein-takedown was just theater, not a threat to them or the vast western-intel-crime-syndicate.

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Tim Groves's avatar

Yes, from a psychological standpoint, what you are saying makes a lot of sense.

Of course, the same message would be sent to this large audience regardless of whether a man was murdered and shown in place of Epstein or a mannequin was used and passed off as Epstein. In either case, they would get the clear message that the Epstein takedown was just theater.

Murdering a man, though, would send the message that the controllers could be quite ruthless in dealing with people if and when the need arises.

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John Day MD's avatar

Thank you for considering that, Tim.

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Sandra ---'s avatar

I think Rappoport's fictional scenario is far more believable than the official BS:

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2019/08/14/jeffrey-epstein-is-alive-a-fictional-scenario/

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

check out the ears....those ears are definitely different....in different photos....The body being rolled out of the prison was NOT the real Epstein we saw from other photos....they COULD NOT be the ears of the same person...positioned and shaped wrong. Ears are like fingerprints....unique.

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Sandra ---'s avatar

Yes, the guy on the gurney didn't match the real guy. I think Jon Rappoport's "fictional scenario" is much more believable than the official BS story they gave us:

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2019/08/14/jeffrey-epstein-is-alive-a-fictional-scenario/

I don't even think they ever had the real guy in custody- the photo we kept seeing was from the prior arrest in 06, and all we had from the courtroom were drawings that didn't even look like him:

https://www.winterwatch.net/2023/07/out-the-book-door-questioning-the-death-of-jeffrey-epstein/

"In our Winter Watch post of July 31, 2019 “Is ‘Jeffrey Epstein’ Being Subjected to Star Chamber Sleight of Hand?,” we laid out our case for the theory that it was not actually Epstein in prison at all. There were no photos of his arrest, booking or court appearances — only court sketches of proceedings that depict someone who doesn’t match his description, but rather someone with a thick and heavy neck. A deputy who saw Epstein after his first “suicide attempt” described him as 5’10” and 240 pounds. Yet, Epstein’s arrest record shows him as 6’0″ 180 pounds. Quite a disparity."

For a few of the psyop shootings, Russ at winterwatch has used the prisoner locator system and seems like the supposed perps just kind of disappeared and weren't even in the system (e.g. the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting)

I also highly doubt Sam Bankfman Freid was ever in custody- all we had were courtroom sketches that didn't even look like him, but of course the media covered by saying he got a haircut and lost a lot of weight. I think for many of these operations the intelligence agencies are in control.

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Julia B's avatar

Agreed

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

No, CIA and black sources in the U.S

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John Day MD's avatar

That falls within the same larger entity, I think, as I discussed in a subsequent comment.

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Aloe's avatar

I have never trusted Trump from the beginning. I did not vote for him in 2016. When I look at Trump, I see a pathological overt narcissist. Let me be clear. I did not vote for Hillary in 2016 nor did I vote for Biden in 2020. I don't trust any of them not a single one except maybe a select few which I will not disclose just yet. My blessed roly-poly Cajun grandma had a great word for people like these two ....."bozos." They are both pathetic bozos. And if they're capable of facing the American public and lying through their teeth about how Jeffrey Epstein was 86'd then I cannot believe a single syllable that comes out of their lying lips from here on. Dear God, please deliver us from these soul, sucking liars acolytes of Satan. As Christ once very wonderfully said by their fruit you shall know them. Lord in your mercy, please hear our prayer.🙏🏻🙏🏻

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I don't vote for the very reason you state. When they give me a good candidate, then I'll vote. No one comes close. They're all a bunch of billionaires in the same club. Why this continues to be something most ignore, I just don't know.

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Celia Farber's avatar

Me neither. My official reason was that I missed the deadline to haul off to Madrid...

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Chris's avatar

Amen.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I’m in your camp regarding Trump, never voted for him (‘16, ‘20, ‘24) nor Killary, Sleepy Eyed Joe, or Kackling Kamala. They ALL were despicable ‘candidates’. But I get constantly thrown into the MGA camp by my progressive middle class (PMC) friends & family members when I attempt to point out to them, the WHY of Trump’s re-election. That people were FED UP with the previous feckless four years of the Biden/Harris regime, were looking for CHANGE, and they believed The Donald and the MAGA people would deliver for them. We shall see.

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Celia Farber's avatar

I just love you guys.

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Lon Guyland's avatar

I’m an “Epstein suicide” skeptic — the sleeping guards/failed cameras/no cellmate thing was enough to get me there.

But what is the story then? Hyoid bone broken in 3 places = strangulation by a strong man, or staged death?

The arms outside the rails thing in the “hospital” photo makes it clear that whoever was on the gurney was conscious. And the rubber mask photo is downright creepy. So the whole hospital thing was fake; there is little room for argument there.

Sad, but not surprising, that Patel and Bongino are covering up. Patel’s whole pantomime about closing the already-abandoned Hoover building adds fuel to the smoldering suspicion.

Washington is beyond saving, and, sooner or later, the whole edifice, hollowed out by decades of white ants gnawing at its load-bearing structural members, is going to come crashing down. In fact, the collapse is well underway.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Yea what’s with Patel’s saying he’s “moving the last employees left in the Hoover building”, when it’s obvious from the outside that the building has not been in use for quite some time?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

They're Israel firsters. Tells you everything you need to know.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Don't let this be a distraction. Both are honest men and are doing their job, and will do what they have been tasked to do. I'm sure they know what really happened to Epstein. We must remember that in war some deception is necessary when dealing with the enemy. This may be a situation of simple optics, or a way to keep those associates of Epstein off balance.

Decades of crimes and treason cannot be undone and prosecuted swiftly, if done by the rule of law.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I'm starting to truly believe that you're a plant for some agency given your comments.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Lol, should I be flattered, or flabbergasted at your inference. If you only really knew the poor insignificant nobody I actually am.

What exactly about my comments bothers you? That I have a different take on current events? Or that I am a long time Trump supporter? Do you WANT to see justice meted out? I do.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

"Both honest men are doing their job."

The first being to lie about Epstein's "suicide."

Get real, dude.

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Celia Farber's avatar

Not to be pollyanna but we benefit from a range of opinions. I do not think Dave is a plant. Dave, you're surely not a plant. You're just trying to think positive.

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Debi Lutman's avatar

And wouldn’t we all agree there may HAVE to be some covert actions put in place to advance ‘our’, the freedom loving republics, moves??

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Bassehound's avatar

Bravo! Well said!

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Jeremy Bridges's avatar

Well. THA IS JUST SILLY .

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Chris's avatar

I'm open to this possibility, but also skeptical that it is true.

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Renee Marie's avatar

The only “problem” with your premise is the government(s) murdering countless human beings with Operation Warp Speed (Trump).

And, why do you state that they are “honest men”?

I don’t understand why any critical thinking person can trust any of these people. They’re also Zionists.

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Debi Lutman's avatar

Crossed my mind also. I’m sure glad God is Sovereign and knows what’s going on. It can be difficult to not believe in anyone anymore. And many good people feel we don’t have the connections, but want to help, willing to fight for ‘us’. And I will. It’s the good against evil fight, and begins at the throne of Grace, where Victory has already been given. Godspeed everyone. Keep shining light into dark places.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Humm don’t know about that! 😼🤔

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A.M.'s avatar

Interesting read. For me, I guess, the PsyOp tip-off is always the rush to judgment that ignores all basic questions. It's really as simple as that. Why is Building 7 the only known structure to ever collapse from a so-called 'office fire'? Or, how do you hang yourself with tissue paper from a bedstead and totally crush the hyoid? Or, how do you have a vaccine for a 'virus' that you have not isolated and identified? Or, if masks are effective against viruses then why don't people wear them for allergies? And yes, how did Life magazine just happen to get that photo? Clearly, Epstein is alive.

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Carol Hoon's avatar

Creepy. I actually believed Patel and Bongino were on our side. Maybe my husband is right; "stop reading that shit and get on with your life."

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Celia Farber's avatar

Now we're talking. But where are out lives? What are they? (Don't answer that.) 🙈

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

That’s good…but where shall we head? 🧐🤓

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John Essmyer's avatar

I too watched the bartaromo interview and thought Patel and Bongino looked like two schoolboys who had gotten caught skipping school.

Their body language ( to me at least), screamed “ have to say this lie and stick to it “

Very disappointing.

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Celia Farber's avatar

I went off on them both but then I deleted it. I'm trying to stick to solid facts as much as possible. AIM (American Intelligence Media) claim Patel is Pilgrims Society. Grok says they have not found evidence. One hits these dead ends..

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Christy Stadelmaier's avatar

Althogether now:

A - live, a-live - o!

A - live, a-live - o!

If the ears don’t match, he has been snatched.

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Deenzy's avatar

You are absolutely correct about psy-ops always being deliberately sloppy Celia and they are getting more and more ludicrous by the day. They literally do not care how ridiculous their ops look now and to my mind it appears that they are making them as retarded as possible on purpose. A couple of recent examples that come to mind…. The Trump “assassination” attempt & Katy Perry goes to space. These events were jam packed with absurdities which they could easily have excluded if they wanted to put on a more believable show

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

100%.

So ridiculous. God, I wish David McGowan was still alive to write about it all.

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Kathleen Nathan's avatar

What happened to Dave? I remember reading his stuff. He was ab/fab as they say

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Died of an aggressive form of cancer back in 2015. So sad! He was a heavy smoker though, and admitted he didn't take good care of himself...

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Petra Liverani's avatar

The Trump assassination attempt was ridiculous but Katy Perry really did go to space as nauseating as the event was. The video below explains all the things that make it look fake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qBCBVD6bAo

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Monty McCurry's avatar

Here’s a different theory for you I don’t believe Epstein is dead; the glance I had of the supposed corpse that didn’t appear to be Epstein at all…I think they moved him out as he was providing evidence, and likely still is.

I listen to a lot of podcasters and this is my bet; they, the Patriots, and the Alliance (the generals who asked Trump to run for office and have been against the cabal since Kennedy was supposedly assassinated) are actively slowly but surely gaining the upper hand.

https://m.beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2025/05/juan-o-savin-consuming-fire-5-19-25-military-emergency-broadcast-alert-within-24-hours-2576503.html

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Petra Liverani's avatar

"I don’t believe Epstein is dead."

Yes, of course! Why does everyone always fall for either of the False Dilemma options offered. Seriously, there'd be a dead man's switch if nothing else. Too many powerful connections.

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John Visher's avatar

Theater of the absurd might wake up some of the insanely stupid people running around by the millions

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doble kerfufflent Roger W. 🦂's avatar

Farrington = "Far" + "ring" + "tone"

A phone rings, but it's afar.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

That’s a good one ARW! 😁

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Hesperado's avatar

Where is Chris Martenson getting his information that Epstein's hyoid bone was fractured in 3 places? From the official autopsy report? He had to, unless he was there, hiding behind a filing cabinet. Does a conspiracy theorist honestly think the official autopsy report on Epstein would be untouched, uncorrupted by the Conspirators? Or that it was not even *fabricated*...? If the Conspirators have the power the conspiracy theorists tend to impute to them, they could easily have killed Epstein in any manner, and simply fabricated a death by hanging scenario, complete with false autopsy reports, etc. Then we may want to verify Chris Martenson's claim about how a hanging cannot involve 3 fractures of the hyoid bone.

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