In Video Message From Prison Reiner Fuellmich Says His Accusers, Used Fraud And Extortion To Compel House Purchaser To Place 1.58 Million Euros Into THEIR Accounts: Is Confident Truth Will Prevail
In Video Message From Prison Reiner Fuellmich Says His Accusers, Used Fraud And Extortion To Compel House Purchaser To Place 1.58 Million Euros Into THEIR Accounts: Is Confident Truth Will Prevail
What a brave soul, we are with you in spirit and hopefully the global energy will keep him warm until he is released. Just shows how desperate they are, going after well regarded individuals only brings their evil out in the open for all to see.
Reiner has been and continues to be a hero. He’s brave, he’s a man of conviction and he’s a truth teller. He is still fighting for us all. He and his family are in my prayers.
A sting arrest and international extradition coordinated between two countries to prosecute a private claim for $700K ? I don't think so. He is a political prisoner.
Many individuals are but the politically corrupt courts deem otherwise not because they believe in truth and justice but because they believe in punishment if you swim against their tide.
You are correct. I am fully aware of the corrupt CYSTem tactics in synergistic combination. The "injustice" CYSTem, police, bureauCRAPS and bureaucracies cooperate against innocent people.
Thank you for what you’re doing. If I had a lot of money I’d give a bunch of it to Reiner to fight this fraud. Once he’s vindicated people need to go after the system that was allowed to do this to him or it will happen again!
We know the serpentine paths that those behind "COVID" and big pharma use. These so-called scandals are created and designed to distract and discredit anyone shinning a light on their mass-murdering dialectics, and interfere with their genocidal agenda.
That doesn't mean our "white knights" are perfect. But you can easily see the same tactics and agenda being used to discredit and incriminate the opposition to their big pharma sorcery.
Thanks for taking up the cause for Reiner Celia. I will be watching and waiting for the report you and Greg put out, and then sending it out as links, which I hope we all will do the same!
Your work and investigational prowess is greatly appreciated! There are certainly many aspects which need looking into in this murky affair.
But please devote some time and effort to investigate the question of why that money would have gone in the direction it did. Why were the 1.3 million going to the people who had left the CIC almost a year earlier? After all, the issue was one between Reiner Fuellmich and Viviane Fischer back in the summer of 2022. By then the two had been leading the CIC on their own, the former members, Hoffmann and A. Fischer, had long since left. Why would Reiner Fuellmich allow his house to be sold and the return be paid out to people with whom there was no connection anymore? Or was there? Wait! It was those people with whom he - not Viviane Fischer - had lead the infamous “class action effort” ( for which many more millions were paid as advance down-payment by potential plaintiffs). Where did that money go? Where is that money? Were was that money in the meantime? Is there a connection to any possible obligation Reiner Fuellmich might have been under versus his former business partners in the “class action” suit? Why has Reiner Fuellmich been accusing just Viviane Fischer publicly until he was arrested? Why did he go to the German Consulate? Who knew about him going there? Who tipped the German authorities off about Reiner Fuellmich going to the consulate?
Sure, Reiner Fuellmich has been leading the effort of bringing light into what is going on via the work in the CIC. But others contributed, among them Wolfgang Wodarg, Renate Holzeisen and Ulrike Kämmerer, who were in on the talks with Reiner Fuellmich about the money which was donated and belonged to the CIC, and which the CIC needed. Those talks had been ongoing for several weeks in the background, and many involved had gotten the impression that something was wrong with how Reiner Fuellmich acted during these private talks.
It had to be Viviane Fischer to make a public announcement on September 2nd when the Committee had been off-air for two weeks and people were beginning to wonder what was going on. Who else should have without raising even more eyebrows? It was just Reiner Fuellmich and her who were “anchors” of the CIC.
What V. Fischer said was quite “neutral, matter-of factly”. That Reiner Fuellmich was for the time being not going to be included, as there were questions that needed to be cleared beforehand. Look it up on odysee. She did NOT accuse Reiner Fuellmich of anything. Shortly afterwards, Reiner Fuellmich started attacking Viviane Fischer on a personal level. Why? He also accused Wodarg of having incriminated him about embezzlement, which was untrue. Why would Reiner Fuellmich do that? He was in control of the Gold which was bought on behalf of the CIC. That would surely have helped to provide liquidity to the CIC (which the whole talk behind closed doors had been all about, involving several respectable people who should be asked about it). Why did he not just provide the Gold and have the rest be settled in good time? Why did Reiner Fuellmich not do that, but instead sold his house and let money be paid to “third parties” he was connected to via the “class action complex”?
Would love to see you investigate these questions, too. And talk to Ulrike Kämmerer, Renate Holzeisen, Wolfgang Wodarg too, instead of just airing messages via Roger Bittel (who was one of the people that had been involved weeks before it all blew up in early September, and thus seems to may be beholden to Reiner Fuellmich).
Certainly also Viviane Fischer needs to answer questions. This is not about her being just a victim. But it seems odd that everyone seems to think it is her being a perpetrator and Reiner Fuellmich a victim.
Uwe, you clearly know a great deal about this and the rest of us are squinting to try to see what has really gone down here, and none of us can be expected to necessarily decipher the bottom line, at a pace greater than what is evolving from the trial itself. I have never said anything about either Viviane or any of the others, per se—what I have reported is what Reiner has said. I told you Greg and I are working on a report. Working on. Here is my first and main question, to you: What is the cause and effect relationship between A—whatever Reiner did, all told and B—the governments of Mexico and Germany conspiring to take him into custody based on a ruse? Do you agree it was a "ruse?" In other words, is it Normal or Abnormal, in your estimate, for the matter to have risen to the level of two governments conspiring to take him into custody? THIS fact makes it all seem that Reiner was "set up."
I believe there was significant trouble with for example Simone Gold, and monies raised for that group she was the head of. I have not seen any news that she has been investigated, never mind apprehended, by any governments.
I will continue to study your questions, laid out here, but please would you tell us the BOTTOM LINE, very simply? Is it your hypothesis that Reiner's actions rose to the level that he SHOULD have been taken into custody in this way and it is NOT because of his work as an enemy of the German state, for his opposition to Covid tyranny? How many "camps" are there?
IS IT TRUE that the funds for Reiner's house sale went to the Berlin lawyers? I am confused but I think reporting the facts as they emerge is a sound policy and what Reiner lays out here are two competing narratives. He is saying: "If I am correct then my accusers committed fraud and embezzlement." Is he correct in this statement?
Celia, I may be incorrect, but I do believe Simone Gold was investigated. She, too, purchased a home (ostensibly for the group). Renniette Senum did several substack reports on that situation.
I watched every single video that Reiner and Vivienne did. (And Reiner's subsequent videos on his own). I, of course, found them fascinating and informative. I put aside my reaction to things like wardrobe and hairstyle (Vivienne's) which I found very very strange. But, c'est la vie.
Could this whole thing be blowback from the powers that be? Of course.
But what I will never understand is how Reiner and Vivienne, and the rest of the original group, as professional and experienced lawyers, would EVER create personal contracts with regard to donations and funds. EVER.
I find it impossible to believe that these two lawyers could not have devised an upfront, transparent way of protecting monies for the group, without having any personal attachment at all. It would be the first order of business.
It happens all the time in life. You create Trusts. Or something. But you let other entities handle the funds. For just this reason.
Loans for homes? Loans to be paid back to each other?
I find that astounding.
And as far as protecting the monies, if I remember correctly, they started their investigations well before the Canadian Truckers began their protest and had their bank accts frozen. People were not all about "protecting funds" before that.
The sad and scarier thing to me is that perhaps Reiner, Vivienne, Wodard and the group were all "got to" and forced to participate in this charade.
But you never mix the personal with the donations. And I am not confusing this with Substacker's who are right up front about earning their keep and site support through donations and subcriptions. That's transparency.
Judith, thank you for these illuminating perspectives. The notion that Simone Gold purchased a home…it just makes my blood boil. We have to open up the scandals here, the damn Covid GRIFTERS. And I find it ironic that Reiner should be the first accused of this. He was a genuine threat to the powers that be, he got to the core of things, and as for his potential foolishness about handling money, I can only say it's over my head. I've never had any money.
So right. I think the IDEA of making money comes to them once they get a little notice and affirmation. Ambition is not our friend. Also, Celia, I just now thought this... the people - doctors, and other "pros" - who start off just being irate at a public matter, especially in 2020, protesters and whonots that became the heads of various movements of the day are generally "ambitious" by nature. It always ends bad, for us anyway.
Celia, I'm not sure how the investigation turned out with Simone. I watched interviews on Reinett's substack.
I'm sorry to say this but Simone's organization sounded like a bit of a circus. AGAIN, people were handling donations in a very unprofessional, haphazard way.
She insists she was purchasing this multibillion dollar house in Florida with the approval of the board. Others disagree. But then monies ended up in the Sheriffs bank account. A real soap opera.
I've never had money, so to speak, either. And I am at heart a very naive person, but I think I have become much more discerning over the past 10 years having had my eyes open while watching a 9/11 documentary. Down the rabbit hole I went.
I know someone who years ago made a very poor judgement call regarding money, allegedly a gift. A great fellow, a good man. He had good political future ahead of him. But the bad judgement call cost him that career.
I don't doubt that Reiner could have been set up. As we know, it is not at all surprising, and I guess, expected. But, again, I am astonished at how he handled the funds.
And, honestly, I don't mean to rake the man over the coals, but is anyone else curious about the Mexico locale, and both he AND his wife losing passports. Wouldn't they have had the passports to get into Mexico? Then they both lost them? I found the whole story curious.
I have lost all sense of time of That Time - the earliest days of the Big Lie. But I recall watching obscure low tech videos of Reiner, et al sitting around a table discussing the matter. At the time the views were very low, sometimes less than 300. In a world of 7 billion people, I felt somewhat privileged to hear deep-felt and well-reasoned concerns of the violations taking place at the time. Their conversations were very long and as the world was on Lock Down, we had all the time to listen if we chose to do so. They, as well as a few other obscure voices, helped me overcome the mental constriction that was tightening on All Of Us.
But here's The Thing, the point of my comment: I cannot understand why anyone who had their knowledge and understanding of the deeper issue at hand felt they had to make money off it. I would never have thought - and still now think - making money off such vital information seems ... I don't know... inhumane.
While I understand "everybody's got to make a living" there comes a point at which getting out one's knowledge overwhelms profiting from said knowledge. And while the tech was "low", it was perfectly sufficient for their purposes. Did that sweet Dr. Sucharit Bhakdit who likely saved thousands of life by sharing his knowledge beg funds? no. I also understand it takes hours of prep (and life-long study) but the flipside is the audience also spends hours searching out the truth and sifting the lies.
Some issues are just simply worth the time invested.
Funny you should mention this Amy. I was unaware, until the big split. that Reiner and Company were even collecting donations. I do not recall them asking for donations.
I suppose you could argue that they were collecting the funds for the big lawsuit that Reiner initially spoke about. Fair enough. But at some point he began insinuating that the German courts were all just too corrupt. I think that's when he and his group conducted the mock Nuremberg-like trial.
I know I'm harping on this, but if he and Vivienne and their group had been transparent with monies from the beginning it would have avoided this problem.
Of course, they would have accused him of something else.
I tend to tune out when money talk arises - my whole lifelong (don't tell Catherine A. Fitts!) - so I literally would not have heard the discussion when it came up. But I have lost so much of the "when" and precisely "whos" of the Great Lie, Judith, that I am not much help.
Where I am helpful is that I was not for one second taken by The Lie. I began to handwrite an explanation of "my reasons for voting for Trump" for my grandchildren (9 and counting) and theirs to come late in 2019. It was going to be long and a book of sorts because it would have to be. Nonetheless, I literally wrote a break note in the book on March 13, 2020 and began to journal day-to-day headlines in local papers, regional papers, nation papers and from the UK. I tracked the "world death meter" on covid that was updated daily. I did this because I was sure "they", TPTB, were going to try to gaslight us. I gave up after about 6 weeks. Everything was just so insane.
I recall a few gems that saved my sanity; the group of professionals - accountants and lawyers - from South Africa that called themselves PANDA were among them. "The numbers just don't add up," was the phrase I heard from them that was my mantra and I could finally exhale.
I remember being a tad charmed by Vivienne's hairstyle. I thought she was brave for sporting it at her age. Reiner was a comfort because his age and the way he conducted himself was as I hope of grown-ups.
Yes, Reinette Senum's substack posts on this are definitely worth a read ("foghorn express substack"). She says that Simone Gold absconded with 30 million in donations. And there are Israeli connections. I was immediately suspicious of Gold, just from my experience with what happened to the 9/11 truth movement.
Simone Gold's New Level of Criminality: Former America's Frontline Doctors Founder Caught Fabricating Exoneration
I don't think the AZ courts or Gold's parole officer will appreciate this; Gold uses a "Request to Modify" court doc as a prop to convince others that she has been exonerated.
Grifters Grifting Grifters Pt 2: AFLDS Heading Into Court Receivership
Kevin Jenkins, the legal AFLDS CEO, lays out the latest; defamation threats, continued fraud & embezzlement as Dr. Simone Gold continues her circus, and The Financial Times starts sniffing around. https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress.substack.com/p/grifters-grifting-grifters-pt-2-aflds scroll down to this: "And the AFLDS’ boards desire for court-ordered receivership is understandable when you see how much money has gone missing and why Gold won’t open her books to complete AFLDS’ financial audit:" (chart showing 30 million missing)
Grifters Grifting Grifters Pt 1
BOMBSHELL: Threats, lies, and a whole lot of deceit around the cookie jar. More on America's Frontline Doctors.... How many crimes can be committed in one organization?
Former AFLDS CEO, Joey Gilbert Chronicles Org's Internal Strife, Answers More Questions re: Sheriff Mack & Simone Gold
The saga is far from over. Defamation lawsuit filed against new AFLDS board. Gilbert talks candidly; how the org went sideways, what went down, & where things stand. Mack gets caught in fabrications.
(there are even more posts on this saga--Sheriff Mack also caught up in this too; there's definitely a post on Simone Gold all roads lead back to Israel). Kevin Jenkins also speaking out on this--he's more of an eyewitness, I think he was appointed onto the board to clean up this mess
And can I ask, do you have any thoughts about this Legal Group (if there is such a group) taking any case they might construct; to any jurisdiction that would deliver them a result in their prosecution.?
Given the reality that the entire "Global Pandemic" control, was ultimately a DOD auspice ... Given that the DOD is legislatively unaccountable to any jurisdiction.
Is Reiner Fuellmich a fool who did not know that reality?
I find it difficult to believe that even with a good heart and the best of intentions a lawyer of Reiner's stature would be naive.
But I do believe at this point that scenarios and situations controlled by the controllers go much much deeper than what we think we have uncovered.
I realize that there is a lot of written word and documentaries out there to peruse, but my mind got really woken up by listening to Attny Dan Sheehan's college lecture course from 2012 "Trajectory of Justice in America". University of Santa Cruz.
Sheehan was a working class kid who got a scholarship to Harvard, then Harvard Law, in the sixties. His story alone is very interesting.
But the cases he litigated and the stories behind them are like watching a netflix series.
I've watched twice and am going to again.
His mind is like a steel trap.
The story behind Karen Silkwood, for those who remember, is beyond incredible. And really really points out how things work in this world.
And the Iran Contra case he litigated and lost is heartbreaking. But politics as usual.
I first saw Sheehan at a composium that Mark Crispin Miller held in about 2014 at Cooper Union in NYC about forming legal action against the crime of 9/11.
To point out just what litigators would be up against in attempting to bring the case to court he told a shortened version of the Silkwood Case. "This is what you're up against".
After seeing that I had to watch his lecture series.
He has a few others besided the Trajectory, that are also fascinating.
I wish I could link it but I cannot find a way to do that.
For anyone interested "Daniel Sheehan, Trajectory of Justice in America, 2012, Romero Institute".
Thanks for engaging, Celia! I want to make it clear that I never said, and do not believe, you said anything about Viviane or the others. My comment was intending to point you to speak to them - who are being misrepresented by Reiner Fuellmich from day one of this operation as early as September 2022.
I do not know whether or not, or to what extend the governments of Mexico and Germany conspired. I am certainly not saying that the German Government is not having an interest in this blowing up as it does. They have a massive interest. For sure.
But it remains to be seen what the circumstances were that brought Reiner Fuellmich to the Consulate and in a situation where he was put on a plane to Germany. I am certainly not saying the German Government is not involved. I am raising awareness to the fact that we all might be being taken for a ride about this.
The cause and effect relationship is not the main point in my view. As there may be several causes and even more effects. It is very well conceivable that Reiner Fuellmich has been set up being innocent, set up being used unwittingly, or even being involved in a much deeper way.
I must guard myself against jumping to conclusions. But it is a fact that he has contributed significantly to causing fractures within the German Freedom fighting movement. On an international level this has not sunk in yet. In this respect, I think, it suits us well to keep some distance until we can see better what is going on.
"We" are allowing a lot of hate and derision to be levelled, for example at Viviane Fischer and, to a lesser extent, at Wolfgang Wodarg. Both have been very harshly attacked by Reiner Fuellmich. Reiner even has tried to get Viviane evicted from groups in which cooperation should have been the main focus. And the arguments he used were not "the truth, nothing but the truth". I can say that, as I have been witness to that - and spoke up.
I am at a loss to see clearly the reasons why he would do that. But I have tried my best to urge "us" to be cautious against this hate and divison. People might say that I am the one who is dividing now. I would refute that. I am not passing judgement on Reiner Fuellmich. But I will not shut up about the fact that there are some important questions that need answers before we can be sure that what we see is what we think it is.
You wrote: "They install saboteurs, as Trojan horses, later activated.“ Reiner Fuellmich has actively and repeatedly been accusing others (including Viviane Fischer) of being such actors. This was striking to me at the time, and it contrasts sharply with what he should have done. I am NOT saying he is a saboteur. But there are questions, some of which I did put forth in my initial comment, the answers of which will surely help to understand whether he has been used or worse. Prudence urges us to exert restraint on thinking it would be unthinkable.
At least for Germany there are now several instances where Reiner Fuellmich did actively divide by his words and by his deeds. The BASIS party is one victim of that. He might have been full of good intentions about it, but it was wrong of him to drag the party into these questions about the money back in September 2022. The questions were legit. It seems odd that now the media are dragging the BASIS back into the trial against Reiner Fuellmich. They might have attempted that anyway, but he certainly made it very easy for them to do that. I hope and pray it may just have been naivete on his part. But that is exactly why I am trying my very best to urge caution now. For all of us. Reiner Fuellmich needs to understand that questions of relevance remain unanswered. And we need to understand that we must not place Reiner Fuellmich on a pedastal.
At the moment I am unable to prove that Reiner was not set up by the state. The state could just have been tipped off. Tipped off by whom? Certainly the people who filed the complaint want to get at the money which was donated in good faith for a cause they had deserted much earlier than September 2022. They have no right to that money. They even go after Viviane Fischer now who has been continuing to do the work in the CIC (even against efforts to discredit her by Reiner Fuellmich). This points to an operation. The fact that the same people who filed the complaint may have directed him to the consulate (say, for signing documents they might have needed "to go after the CIC/Viviane Fischer/Wolfgang Wodarg") might have reported him to the authorities. Question is: why did he go along with them for the class action in the first place? What happened to the class action money? Where was it, where is it? Where has it been?
As a matter of fact, Reiner Fuellmich has been involved in a case involving Scientology in the late 1990s in Germany. In 2021 he appeared in a video saying that claims he was involved had been prohibited by the German courts. It is very interesting that he quoted a decision which only forbade that a TV station repeat what they aired. This had been a direct statement by a German scientology expert, stating that "Reiner Fuellmich was doing the dirty work for scientology now". There is no evidence that Reiner Fuellmich went after that expert's statement as such. But there is evidence that he has lost cases against that expert.
When Reiner Fuellmich was apprehended in Mexico and word got round about it, someone who had played a role in the "Operation Snow White“ proceedings against Scientology immediately inquired about what was being held against Reiner Fuellmich. That person had never before engaged in discussions within that group where the news broke.
I am not saying that Reiner Fuellmich is, or is not implicated in what might be a Scientology operation.
But it is very striking that another German Freedom Fighter who had gone on trial, Michael Ballweg, the founder of "Querdenken“ was also connected to another Scientology member in the early days of the Querdenken movement who had helped raise funds for the early rallies (and thus must have had some knowledge of the flow of money in the resistance).
Again: Reiner Fuellmich and Michael Ballweg need not even have been aware of what was going on around them. But given the involvement of yet another prominent Scientology member, Leigh Dundas, in the US-military-cancer-increase affair, it should make us be aware of how much bigger this might be.
Uwe, thank you as well for engaging. I can see that this matter is quantum entangled, and I can see that anybody who deigns to think they can get a clear bead on it will find that it's…well, hard to find the beginning of the string, never mind the end.
I think Reiner did outstanding work. He doesn't strike me as a man who cares about money. His wife Inka, for her part, is the one who urged him to get into this war, this fight. In my experience, anybody who gets into this war winds up maimed. Or killed. Or in prison. In my case it was maimed, but not killed. I had friends who were killed. I had colleagues who committed suicide, and one who was thrown in prison based on planted evidence. This is the HIV war I am speaking of. I speak to you as somebody with only a shard of my former "self" even activated.
We have very bad actors in our midst.
Reiner is not, I believe, one of them. There are many who have grafted shamelessly off the purses of the frightened. And I would lead the charge against COVID GRIFTERS, if asked. I myself earn just under survival amounts, and strictly from my own writings, here, and the roughly 3% of paid subscribers.
As for Reiner coming against Vivian—did he, in your view, do so utterly out of proportion with what she did to him?
“As for Reiner coming against Vivian—did he, in your view, do so utterly out of proportion with what she did to him?” – Yes I do. And it is a tragedy that he can not understand that - in essence - it was his obligation to get the funds back to the committee in the summer of 2022. At least the Gold. There were so many people involved in that discussion that it is even a bit of a stretch to repeat his tune that it was she who did this to him. It needn't have happened. It shouldn't. As there was liquidity available (in Gold, at least) which should have been returned swiftly, in order to follow-up a dilligent restructuring of the financial affairs of the committee.
Yesterday I wrote personally to Celia (you cc'd) on receiving your substack message. Celia replied, you did not. Meanwhile I have come to the conclusion that this investigative journalist and historian is no better than the rest and a waste of time. You, Uwe, have obviously not been following events and revelations, but are keen to have your say and upticks.
A few of your questions may warrant attention, others do not because they have long been clarified. Before engaging in a debate it is incumbent on you (and anyone) to obtain answers to the "low-hanging fruit" issues
I have just lost a lot of time exposing the popular fraudster Ehret. Am reluctant to go down the rabbit hole you have manufactured, apparently to satisfy your vanity.
I wrote yesterday to Celia:
>> Uwe Alschner raises many questions, several of which I could answer because I have followed some of the events more closely than he has. For example, about the gold. "Why did he not just provide the Gold and have the rest be settled in good time?" Because the gold is held jointly by Viviane and him, now at a holding company, previously with a friend of Viviane. The two (V. and R.) would have to present themselves together in person for access to the gold. But Reiner was in Mexico, having had his visa to the USA cancelled overnight. This cancellation can only have been due to dirty tricks coordinated between the US and German govts. As Elsa Schieder can confirm, his wife Inka has said that they were lured to the airport on false pretences, their passports having disappeared. So that is one of Uwe's sceptical questions answered.
I cannot answer all the questions Uwe raises, but easily a number of them, simply by having followed developments from early on.
Viviane had zero right to exclude Reiner from the Corona-Ausschuss / Investigative Committee since they were equal partners. Why does Uwe not mention this, when it is the most crucial point?
The accusation now made by Reiner is that the proceeds from the house sale were not transferred to him because of a corrupt notary or else the buyer being intimidated. <<
Your comment on the gold is factually imprecise and incorrect with regards to the initial situation.
I have made it clear that these questions were relevant long before RF went to Mexico. It was relevant in July/August of 2022 when RF was acting very strangely according to a number of people involved. At that time the gold was in a private home belonging to one of his friends. VF eventually went there and obtained it. She has published a picture of how it was stored. Thereafter it was put in a depository. And now it can only be got at with RF and VF acting jointly. But that’s not how it was originally. You should also guard against vanity when writing that you know more than other people.
"Reiner did outstanding work. He doesn't strike me as a man who cares about money." EXACTLY!!! Reiner came out of retirement to pursue this matter and bring the criminals to justice. Please remember all you doubting Thomas's that millions of people have died because of the fake "pandemic" and the demonstrably toxic injections that followed in its wake. Reiner is an established professional with an illustrious career. He is targeted by the "elites" because he is a threat to their criminal agenda. A man with his background and credentials doesn't suddenly become a criminal whose goal was to extract money from the Corona Investigative Committee...Never forget, while wangling is going on over these absurd accusations...people are still being injected with poison against a non existent virus and as pointed out by Ed Dowd and his statistics--cancer and thrombosis and other deadly diseases are inexplicably creating huge excess deaths. This is the crime we need to focus on. "Never again really is now" A major genocide has/is occurring--- Dr. Fuellmich did not need to dirty his hands in this dangerous business. He literally came out of retirement after a successful career. He is a hero and he was fighting those who want us all dead. I am sure that having little splinter groups forming and fighting among ourselves is part of the agenda. WAKE UP...."they" want to kill your kids and our grandkids. Just as the Georgia "guide stones" said..."they" want to trim the population down to 500,000 world wide. And "they" are hard at it. Birth rates in the US fell drastically while excess deaths sky rocketed. Huge numbers of us have been poisoned with a toxic injection created in the wake of a fake virus. All this has been proven...and people are wangling over some stupid business of a bank account in a country that has been thoroughly corrupted by the thieves and monsters from the WEF. Good god....have we no common sense left?
It is very naive that many are blindly trusting what Reiner said without the other side.
It's almost like hero worship fueled by the fear of the state shutting things down. Reiner spun it that way.
But I'll be honest, the weirdest thing is that he knew there was a complaint against him and instead of dealing with it, he stayed in Mexico. I recall during his cic days he was either in Germany or California.
Why Mexico?
Also, as a lawyer didn't he know that skipping a trial could result in a warrant that could be executed in Germany, which includes the German embassy?
He was arrested for the same reason you can be arrested for not answering a speeding ticket. He's a lawyer and knew this. So his actions were suspicious to go to Mexico for an extended time.
I suppose if he never needed to get a replacement passport, he would still be in Mexico.
At least now in court they can show whether he's telling the truth or lying. If it's ambiguous or rigged it will be easy to see. Let the proof make the case, not word alone.
But everyone else: how are you so sure Viv is lying but Reiner is telling the truth? Do y'all have any date or are you going on "feeling"?
Rob, there has been evidence your comment seems unaware of. I greatly resent the accusation of either "blindness," or "hero worship."
The other side of what you call "hero worship" is what passes for strong mindedness to facts these days, but it's instead a feeding frenzy on "heroes," that has it black tentacles everywhere. You're behind on the trends! The new trend is SHRED people, especially anyone who collected any kind of admiration for fighting against Beast Pharma. Petty resentments, envy, dressed up and hero busting, of sorry hero BUSTIN, and not "falling for" hero syndromes. Same game.
Dark spirits in underdog/hero drag.
How can we agree on: 1. what is evidence? 2. what can evidence be measured forensically? 3. what evidence team Reiner has presented THUS far?
1) he's innocent and they're doing what you're saying
2) he's guilty and using that narrative to pretend he's guilty
3) this was a confusing and stupid way of holding money for the cic and it's infighting
We don't know until the case is made on both sides.
It didn't help that instead of just saying it's a false accusation, he pulled character assassination on Vivian. They did that to you when you were challenging the HIV and AIDS scam. Character assassination is cheap and lazy. He gets no respect for that abuse.
I'm sorry but that's not the way to challenge a false accusation and that's why I don't see it as a set up but that there's some confusingly weird ways of the cic and him dealing with money.
Anyway, the amount of money they raised is ridiculous for the work they have done. You work harder than them on a pittance compared to their show trials and interviews. Perhaps it is number 3, infighting.
Edit: my girlfriend had a variation on number 3... They were trying to hide money and hot potato, sold out Reiner. Hmmm
All of this is just a distraction from the real crime. The largest genocide in history has taken place. And now we are all focused on a relatively insignificant bank account?...For petes sakes...it's like the classic "rage over a lost penny"...
Our children's lives are at stake....they are putting poison into the entire childhood vaccination schedule....and you maunder on and on about a stupid bank account? I cannot believe this idiocy. It is like arguing over whether the WTC was blown up with dynamite or high tech weapons....A terrible crime--way beyond financial malfeasance has been committed...The name of the crime is genocide or "mass murder"....doesn't anyone remember that? Please...remember this. We are losing sight of the real criminals as we become distracted by this ridiculous smoke screen....Reiner Fuellmich has a past. He is well respected. Does anyone really believe he would suddenly turn into a thief?
If it were my money that were stolen, I would want justice.
It's not me, but those who accuse him that have the right to take him to court.
An Emergency state like you describe doesn't stop the legal system. The government and powerful people would like to pick and choose when, though.
The ones who break the laws would like that to happen and that's why they try to make it black and white.
If he's innocent, it will be clear as he stated. There's financial records that are evidence. This is not a case based on he said she said, there's documents etc.
o.k. Let me say it again...children are being injected with a toxic sterilizing "vaccine" at this very moment. This "vaccine" followed in the wake of a totally fake global "emergency" engineered and broadcast by the Klaus Schwabian Nazis that are still lusting for our blood....those are real crimes with millions of victims....And the crime is ongoing...
Can we have a sense of proportion here? The Mrna "vaccines" are being placed into the childhood schedule...EVERY CHILD WILL BE HURT....got that?
This wrangling about comparatively trivial sums of money when millions of children's lives are still being threatened and the global "control grid" is being established in which we will be electronically controlled and monitored ...is simply beyond me. We are fighting over nickels and dimes as our futures are being sacked.
Rob, you’re missing a lot of information therefore your comment can’t be taken seriously. You don’t even know why Reiner was in Mexico do you? We do! You should do your own research! Reiner Füllmich is innocent and he’s telling the truth. He was always open and honest about what happened. My advice to you is to get your information straight before writing such nonsense. By the way Sherlock, the judiciary in Germany is corrupt! You obviously know nothing. You’re suspicious!
I will not enlighten you, I will tell you the truth. Reiner publicly said that he and his wife wanted to sell their house to permanently move to their ranch in California. He had already been living there for a while when he left to interview Barry Trower in the UK. From there, he flew to Germany to pickup his wife. They then flew to Peru for an interview. From Lima, Mr and Mrs Füllmich were to fly back to California. That did not happen because Reiner was informed that his american visa had been canceled. After 25 years, US cancels his visa! Reiner Füllmich does not only have a property in California, is a member of the BAR! That’s when they decided to fly to Mexico to be with German friends who have permanently moved there. They have a nice german community there and they were happy before Germany kidnapped him! That’s the true story.
You definitely have not been following 🤦♀️ Yes he’s a lawyer and, NO, he didn’t know! He was secretly investigated, trapped and kidnapped. Totally ILLEGAL!
Yulia, do you know what "The Truth Barrier" refers to? I've explained it many times. Are you so clouded that you think it refers to a FENCE that blocks truth?
Viviane was introduced to Reiner, and recommended to him as a partner in the original Corona Investigative Committee, by none other than Wolfgang Wodarg. Wodarg served as their main medical person on the CIC, and still serves as such, w/ Viviane now in charge of the original CIC... Wodarg, btw, is standing by Viviane and NOT Reiner. So, he, too, has been duped hugely by Viviane.
I have read a little about Wodarg...seems as if he has a shadowy past with a now defunct international health organization or was it the WHO? Wodarg impressed me as someone who knew his way around but was trying to appear on the right side...He has gone silent and is probably hiding somewhere...In his defense, I seem to remember he did come out against the fake "pandemic"....is that not true?
What a brave soul, we are with you in spirit and hopefully the global energy will keep him warm until he is released. Just shows how desperate they are, going after well regarded individuals only brings their evil out in the open for all to see.
Reiner has been and continues to be a hero. He’s brave, he’s a man of conviction and he’s a truth teller. He is still fighting for us all. He and his family are in my prayers.
A sting arrest and international extradition coordinated between two countries to prosecute a private claim for $700K ? I don't think so. He is a political prisoner.
Sure looks like a political prisoner to me....a commercial claim for $700k & no bail?...WTF!
Reiner Füllmich is definitely a political prisoner! They better free him soon because we’ll have to take care of this ourselves!!!
Innocent until proven guilty… truly this is a setup to destroy a good man!
I am praying for the truth to prevail over Reiner… I believe goodness will overcome this evil plot!
My message to Reiner is … you are a light in the darkness , I believe in your innocence!
🙏
Show trial.
Let the truth prevail, Celia.
I concur.
Reiner is innocent.
Many individuals are but the politically corrupt courts deem otherwise not because they believe in truth and justice but because they believe in punishment if you swim against their tide.
For freaking sure!!!!
I think that he's innocent and that he was set up, they had no other choice but to silence him ..
You are correct. I am fully aware of the corrupt CYSTem tactics in synergistic combination. The "injustice" CYSTem, police, bureauCRAPS and bureaucracies cooperate against innocent people.
It's very biblical. Evil pursues good. The good will prevail as long as we stand strong.
Thank you for what you’re doing. If I had a lot of money I’d give a bunch of it to Reiner to fight this fraud. Once he’s vindicated people need to go after the system that was allowed to do this to him or it will happen again!
Same here!
We know the serpentine paths that those behind "COVID" and big pharma use. These so-called scandals are created and designed to distract and discredit anyone shinning a light on their mass-murdering dialectics, and interfere with their genocidal agenda.
That doesn't mean our "white knights" are perfect. But you can easily see the same tactics and agenda being used to discredit and incriminate the opposition to their big pharma sorcery.
Thanks for taking up the cause for Reiner Celia. I will be watching and waiting for the report you and Greg put out, and then sending it out as links, which I hope we all will do the same!
Worth bearing in mind that the powers that be put leaders in place for us precisely so those leaders can behave like this too.
My guess is Reiner is one such.
Your work and investigational prowess is greatly appreciated! There are certainly many aspects which need looking into in this murky affair.
But please devote some time and effort to investigate the question of why that money would have gone in the direction it did. Why were the 1.3 million going to the people who had left the CIC almost a year earlier? After all, the issue was one between Reiner Fuellmich and Viviane Fischer back in the summer of 2022. By then the two had been leading the CIC on their own, the former members, Hoffmann and A. Fischer, had long since left. Why would Reiner Fuellmich allow his house to be sold and the return be paid out to people with whom there was no connection anymore? Or was there? Wait! It was those people with whom he - not Viviane Fischer - had lead the infamous “class action effort” ( for which many more millions were paid as advance down-payment by potential plaintiffs). Where did that money go? Where is that money? Were was that money in the meantime? Is there a connection to any possible obligation Reiner Fuellmich might have been under versus his former business partners in the “class action” suit? Why has Reiner Fuellmich been accusing just Viviane Fischer publicly until he was arrested? Why did he go to the German Consulate? Who knew about him going there? Who tipped the German authorities off about Reiner Fuellmich going to the consulate?
Sure, Reiner Fuellmich has been leading the effort of bringing light into what is going on via the work in the CIC. But others contributed, among them Wolfgang Wodarg, Renate Holzeisen and Ulrike Kämmerer, who were in on the talks with Reiner Fuellmich about the money which was donated and belonged to the CIC, and which the CIC needed. Those talks had been ongoing for several weeks in the background, and many involved had gotten the impression that something was wrong with how Reiner Fuellmich acted during these private talks.
It had to be Viviane Fischer to make a public announcement on September 2nd when the Committee had been off-air for two weeks and people were beginning to wonder what was going on. Who else should have without raising even more eyebrows? It was just Reiner Fuellmich and her who were “anchors” of the CIC.
What V. Fischer said was quite “neutral, matter-of factly”. That Reiner Fuellmich was for the time being not going to be included, as there were questions that needed to be cleared beforehand. Look it up on odysee. She did NOT accuse Reiner Fuellmich of anything. Shortly afterwards, Reiner Fuellmich started attacking Viviane Fischer on a personal level. Why? He also accused Wodarg of having incriminated him about embezzlement, which was untrue. Why would Reiner Fuellmich do that? He was in control of the Gold which was bought on behalf of the CIC. That would surely have helped to provide liquidity to the CIC (which the whole talk behind closed doors had been all about, involving several respectable people who should be asked about it). Why did he not just provide the Gold and have the rest be settled in good time? Why did Reiner Fuellmich not do that, but instead sold his house and let money be paid to “third parties” he was connected to via the “class action complex”?
Would love to see you investigate these questions, too. And talk to Ulrike Kämmerer, Renate Holzeisen, Wolfgang Wodarg too, instead of just airing messages via Roger Bittel (who was one of the people that had been involved weeks before it all blew up in early September, and thus seems to may be beholden to Reiner Fuellmich).
Certainly also Viviane Fischer needs to answer questions. This is not about her being just a victim. But it seems odd that everyone seems to think it is her being a perpetrator and Reiner Fuellmich a victim.
Let’s rid ourselves of such dangerous naïveté.
Uwe, you clearly know a great deal about this and the rest of us are squinting to try to see what has really gone down here, and none of us can be expected to necessarily decipher the bottom line, at a pace greater than what is evolving from the trial itself. I have never said anything about either Viviane or any of the others, per se—what I have reported is what Reiner has said. I told you Greg and I are working on a report. Working on. Here is my first and main question, to you: What is the cause and effect relationship between A—whatever Reiner did, all told and B—the governments of Mexico and Germany conspiring to take him into custody based on a ruse? Do you agree it was a "ruse?" In other words, is it Normal or Abnormal, in your estimate, for the matter to have risen to the level of two governments conspiring to take him into custody? THIS fact makes it all seem that Reiner was "set up."
I believe there was significant trouble with for example Simone Gold, and monies raised for that group she was the head of. I have not seen any news that she has been investigated, never mind apprehended, by any governments.
I will continue to study your questions, laid out here, but please would you tell us the BOTTOM LINE, very simply? Is it your hypothesis that Reiner's actions rose to the level that he SHOULD have been taken into custody in this way and it is NOT because of his work as an enemy of the German state, for his opposition to Covid tyranny? How many "camps" are there?
IS IT TRUE that the funds for Reiner's house sale went to the Berlin lawyers? I am confused but I think reporting the facts as they emerge is a sound policy and what Reiner lays out here are two competing narratives. He is saying: "If I am correct then my accusers committed fraud and embezzlement." Is he correct in this statement?
Celia, I may be incorrect, but I do believe Simone Gold was investigated. She, too, purchased a home (ostensibly for the group). Renniette Senum did several substack reports on that situation.
I watched every single video that Reiner and Vivienne did. (And Reiner's subsequent videos on his own). I, of course, found them fascinating and informative. I put aside my reaction to things like wardrobe and hairstyle (Vivienne's) which I found very very strange. But, c'est la vie.
Could this whole thing be blowback from the powers that be? Of course.
But what I will never understand is how Reiner and Vivienne, and the rest of the original group, as professional and experienced lawyers, would EVER create personal contracts with regard to donations and funds. EVER.
I find it impossible to believe that these two lawyers could not have devised an upfront, transparent way of protecting monies for the group, without having any personal attachment at all. It would be the first order of business.
It happens all the time in life. You create Trusts. Or something. But you let other entities handle the funds. For just this reason.
Loans for homes? Loans to be paid back to each other?
I find that astounding.
And as far as protecting the monies, if I remember correctly, they started their investigations well before the Canadian Truckers began their protest and had their bank accts frozen. People were not all about "protecting funds" before that.
The sad and scarier thing to me is that perhaps Reiner, Vivienne, Wodard and the group were all "got to" and forced to participate in this charade.
But you never mix the personal with the donations. And I am not confusing this with Substacker's who are right up front about earning their keep and site support through donations and subcriptions. That's transparency.
Judith, thank you for these illuminating perspectives. The notion that Simone Gold purchased a home…it just makes my blood boil. We have to open up the scandals here, the damn Covid GRIFTERS. And I find it ironic that Reiner should be the first accused of this. He was a genuine threat to the powers that be, he got to the core of things, and as for his potential foolishness about handling money, I can only say it's over my head. I've never had any money.
So right. I think the IDEA of making money comes to them once they get a little notice and affirmation. Ambition is not our friend. Also, Celia, I just now thought this... the people - doctors, and other "pros" - who start off just being irate at a public matter, especially in 2020, protesters and whonots that became the heads of various movements of the day are generally "ambitious" by nature. It always ends bad, for us anyway.
Celia, I'm not sure how the investigation turned out with Simone. I watched interviews on Reinett's substack.
I'm sorry to say this but Simone's organization sounded like a bit of a circus. AGAIN, people were handling donations in a very unprofessional, haphazard way.
She insists she was purchasing this multibillion dollar house in Florida with the approval of the board. Others disagree. But then monies ended up in the Sheriffs bank account. A real soap opera.
I've never had money, so to speak, either. And I am at heart a very naive person, but I think I have become much more discerning over the past 10 years having had my eyes open while watching a 9/11 documentary. Down the rabbit hole I went.
I know someone who years ago made a very poor judgement call regarding money, allegedly a gift. A great fellow, a good man. He had good political future ahead of him. But the bad judgement call cost him that career.
I don't doubt that Reiner could have been set up. As we know, it is not at all surprising, and I guess, expected. But, again, I am astonished at how he handled the funds.
And, honestly, I don't mean to rake the man over the coals, but is anyone else curious about the Mexico locale, and both he AND his wife losing passports. Wouldn't they have had the passports to get into Mexico? Then they both lost them? I found the whole story curious.
Simone Gold did time.
I believe Reiner´s U.S. visa was revoked, thus Mexico.
Having outlined my plans for an activist charity organisation to a lawyer, he said: "If money is involved, they will get you one way or another."
So much for law and order, justice, freedumb, and all that.
Thank you for the clarification on US visa.
He handled money with quite a bit of potential to my observations.
I have lost all sense of time of That Time - the earliest days of the Big Lie. But I recall watching obscure low tech videos of Reiner, et al sitting around a table discussing the matter. At the time the views were very low, sometimes less than 300. In a world of 7 billion people, I felt somewhat privileged to hear deep-felt and well-reasoned concerns of the violations taking place at the time. Their conversations were very long and as the world was on Lock Down, we had all the time to listen if we chose to do so. They, as well as a few other obscure voices, helped me overcome the mental constriction that was tightening on All Of Us.
But here's The Thing, the point of my comment: I cannot understand why anyone who had their knowledge and understanding of the deeper issue at hand felt they had to make money off it. I would never have thought - and still now think - making money off such vital information seems ... I don't know... inhumane.
While I understand "everybody's got to make a living" there comes a point at which getting out one's knowledge overwhelms profiting from said knowledge. And while the tech was "low", it was perfectly sufficient for their purposes. Did that sweet Dr. Sucharit Bhakdit who likely saved thousands of life by sharing his knowledge beg funds? no. I also understand it takes hours of prep (and life-long study) but the flipside is the audience also spends hours searching out the truth and sifting the lies.
Some issues are just simply worth the time invested.
Funny you should mention this Amy. I was unaware, until the big split. that Reiner and Company were even collecting donations. I do not recall them asking for donations.
I suppose you could argue that they were collecting the funds for the big lawsuit that Reiner initially spoke about. Fair enough. But at some point he began insinuating that the German courts were all just too corrupt. I think that's when he and his group conducted the mock Nuremberg-like trial.
I know I'm harping on this, but if he and Vivienne and their group had been transparent with monies from the beginning it would have avoided this problem.
Of course, they would have accused him of something else.
I tend to tune out when money talk arises - my whole lifelong (don't tell Catherine A. Fitts!) - so I literally would not have heard the discussion when it came up. But I have lost so much of the "when" and precisely "whos" of the Great Lie, Judith, that I am not much help.
Where I am helpful is that I was not for one second taken by The Lie. I began to handwrite an explanation of "my reasons for voting for Trump" for my grandchildren (9 and counting) and theirs to come late in 2019. It was going to be long and a book of sorts because it would have to be. Nonetheless, I literally wrote a break note in the book on March 13, 2020 and began to journal day-to-day headlines in local papers, regional papers, nation papers and from the UK. I tracked the "world death meter" on covid that was updated daily. I did this because I was sure "they", TPTB, were going to try to gaslight us. I gave up after about 6 weeks. Everything was just so insane.
I recall a few gems that saved my sanity; the group of professionals - accountants and lawyers - from South Africa that called themselves PANDA were among them. "The numbers just don't add up," was the phrase I heard from them that was my mantra and I could finally exhale.
I remember being a tad charmed by Vivienne's hairstyle. I thought she was brave for sporting it at her age. Reiner was a comfort because his age and the way he conducted himself was as I hope of grown-ups.
That explanation and I think it was sincere, described collecting a pile of monies, to put on a theatrical show trial in no effective jurisdiction.
In other dialects ...A scam.
Then we have the Wellness Company...
Good questions indeed. I wondered about the money thing too. Seems very unprofessional for people with this level of education and experience.
Yes, Reinette Senum's substack posts on this are definitely worth a read ("foghorn express substack"). She says that Simone Gold absconded with 30 million in donations. And there are Israeli connections. I was immediately suspicious of Gold, just from my experience with what happened to the 9/11 truth movement.
WHAAAT??!!
Here are some of her posts- most recent at the top, earlier ones further down, 30 million info in Grifters 2
Dr. Simone Gold: Becoming the Bernie Madoff of the Medical Freedom Movement
Continued denial, fraud, and disassociation of reality plaguing former America's Frontline Doctor's founder. https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress.substack.com/p/dr-simone-gold-becoming-the-bernie
Simone Gold's New Level of Criminality: Former America's Frontline Doctors Founder Caught Fabricating Exoneration
I don't think the AZ courts or Gold's parole officer will appreciate this; Gold uses a "Request to Modify" court doc as a prop to convince others that she has been exonerated.
https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress.substack.com/p/simone-golds-new-level-of-criminality
Grifters Grifting Grifters Pt 2: AFLDS Heading Into Court Receivership
Kevin Jenkins, the legal AFLDS CEO, lays out the latest; defamation threats, continued fraud & embezzlement as Dr. Simone Gold continues her circus, and The Financial Times starts sniffing around. https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress.substack.com/p/grifters-grifting-grifters-pt-2-aflds scroll down to this: "And the AFLDS’ boards desire for court-ordered receivership is understandable when you see how much money has gone missing and why Gold won’t open her books to complete AFLDS’ financial audit:" (chart showing 30 million missing)
Grifters Grifting Grifters Pt 1
BOMBSHELL: Threats, lies, and a whole lot of deceit around the cookie jar. More on America's Frontline Doctors.... How many crimes can be committed in one organization?
https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress.substack.com/p/grifters-grifting-grifters-pt-1
Former AFLDS CEO, Joey Gilbert Chronicles Org's Internal Strife, Answers More Questions re: Sheriff Mack & Simone Gold
The saga is far from over. Defamation lawsuit filed against new AFLDS board. Gilbert talks candidly; how the org went sideways, what went down, & where things stand. Mack gets caught in fabrications.
https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress.substack.com/p/former-aflds-ceo-joey-gilbert-chronicles
(there are even more posts on this saga--Sheriff Mack also caught up in this too; there's definitely a post on Simone Gold all roads lead back to Israel). Kevin Jenkins also speaking out on this--he's more of an eyewitness, I think he was appointed onto the board to clean up this mess
I watched some of it. This is indeed JAW dropping. Why is she not in prison?
Something about the "Gold" standard but there's that damn poetry muse butting in again
When I wrote "forced to participate in this charade", I meant the accusations and subsequent trials.
Well spotted.
And can I ask, do you have any thoughts about this Legal Group (if there is such a group) taking any case they might construct; to any jurisdiction that would deliver them a result in their prosecution.?
Given the reality that the entire "Global Pandemic" control, was ultimately a DOD auspice ... Given that the DOD is legislatively unaccountable to any jurisdiction.
Is Reiner Fuellmich a fool who did not know that reality?
I find it difficult to believe that even with a good heart and the best of intentions a lawyer of Reiner's stature would be naive.
But I do believe at this point that scenarios and situations controlled by the controllers go much much deeper than what we think we have uncovered.
I realize that there is a lot of written word and documentaries out there to peruse, but my mind got really woken up by listening to Attny Dan Sheehan's college lecture course from 2012 "Trajectory of Justice in America". University of Santa Cruz.
Sheehan was a working class kid who got a scholarship to Harvard, then Harvard Law, in the sixties. His story alone is very interesting.
But the cases he litigated and the stories behind them are like watching a netflix series.
I've watched twice and am going to again.
His mind is like a steel trap.
The story behind Karen Silkwood, for those who remember, is beyond incredible. And really really points out how things work in this world.
And the Iran Contra case he litigated and lost is heartbreaking. But politics as usual.
I first saw Sheehan at a composium that Mark Crispin Miller held in about 2014 at Cooper Union in NYC about forming legal action against the crime of 9/11.
To point out just what litigators would be up against in attempting to bring the case to court he told a shortened version of the Silkwood Case. "This is what you're up against".
After seeing that I had to watch his lecture series.
He has a few others besided the Trajectory, that are also fascinating.
I wish I could link it but I cannot find a way to do that.
For anyone interested "Daniel Sheehan, Trajectory of Justice in America, 2012, Romero Institute".
Cheers Judith ...If he is not naive; then he is the other thing.
Thanks for engaging, Celia! I want to make it clear that I never said, and do not believe, you said anything about Viviane or the others. My comment was intending to point you to speak to them - who are being misrepresented by Reiner Fuellmich from day one of this operation as early as September 2022.
I do not know whether or not, or to what extend the governments of Mexico and Germany conspired. I am certainly not saying that the German Government is not having an interest in this blowing up as it does. They have a massive interest. For sure.
But it remains to be seen what the circumstances were that brought Reiner Fuellmich to the Consulate and in a situation where he was put on a plane to Germany. I am certainly not saying the German Government is not involved. I am raising awareness to the fact that we all might be being taken for a ride about this.
The cause and effect relationship is not the main point in my view. As there may be several causes and even more effects. It is very well conceivable that Reiner Fuellmich has been set up being innocent, set up being used unwittingly, or even being involved in a much deeper way.
I must guard myself against jumping to conclusions. But it is a fact that he has contributed significantly to causing fractures within the German Freedom fighting movement. On an international level this has not sunk in yet. In this respect, I think, it suits us well to keep some distance until we can see better what is going on.
"We" are allowing a lot of hate and derision to be levelled, for example at Viviane Fischer and, to a lesser extent, at Wolfgang Wodarg. Both have been very harshly attacked by Reiner Fuellmich. Reiner even has tried to get Viviane evicted from groups in which cooperation should have been the main focus. And the arguments he used were not "the truth, nothing but the truth". I can say that, as I have been witness to that - and spoke up.
I am at a loss to see clearly the reasons why he would do that. But I have tried my best to urge "us" to be cautious against this hate and divison. People might say that I am the one who is dividing now. I would refute that. I am not passing judgement on Reiner Fuellmich. But I will not shut up about the fact that there are some important questions that need answers before we can be sure that what we see is what we think it is.
You wrote: "They install saboteurs, as Trojan horses, later activated.“ Reiner Fuellmich has actively and repeatedly been accusing others (including Viviane Fischer) of being such actors. This was striking to me at the time, and it contrasts sharply with what he should have done. I am NOT saying he is a saboteur. But there are questions, some of which I did put forth in my initial comment, the answers of which will surely help to understand whether he has been used or worse. Prudence urges us to exert restraint on thinking it would be unthinkable.
At least for Germany there are now several instances where Reiner Fuellmich did actively divide by his words and by his deeds. The BASIS party is one victim of that. He might have been full of good intentions about it, but it was wrong of him to drag the party into these questions about the money back in September 2022. The questions were legit. It seems odd that now the media are dragging the BASIS back into the trial against Reiner Fuellmich. They might have attempted that anyway, but he certainly made it very easy for them to do that. I hope and pray it may just have been naivete on his part. But that is exactly why I am trying my very best to urge caution now. For all of us. Reiner Fuellmich needs to understand that questions of relevance remain unanswered. And we need to understand that we must not place Reiner Fuellmich on a pedastal.
At the moment I am unable to prove that Reiner was not set up by the state. The state could just have been tipped off. Tipped off by whom? Certainly the people who filed the complaint want to get at the money which was donated in good faith for a cause they had deserted much earlier than September 2022. They have no right to that money. They even go after Viviane Fischer now who has been continuing to do the work in the CIC (even against efforts to discredit her by Reiner Fuellmich). This points to an operation. The fact that the same people who filed the complaint may have directed him to the consulate (say, for signing documents they might have needed "to go after the CIC/Viviane Fischer/Wolfgang Wodarg") might have reported him to the authorities. Question is: why did he go along with them for the class action in the first place? What happened to the class action money? Where was it, where is it? Where has it been?
As a matter of fact, Reiner Fuellmich has been involved in a case involving Scientology in the late 1990s in Germany. In 2021 he appeared in a video saying that claims he was involved had been prohibited by the German courts. It is very interesting that he quoted a decision which only forbade that a TV station repeat what they aired. This had been a direct statement by a German scientology expert, stating that "Reiner Fuellmich was doing the dirty work for scientology now". There is no evidence that Reiner Fuellmich went after that expert's statement as such. But there is evidence that he has lost cases against that expert.
When Reiner Fuellmich was apprehended in Mexico and word got round about it, someone who had played a role in the "Operation Snow White“ proceedings against Scientology immediately inquired about what was being held against Reiner Fuellmich. That person had never before engaged in discussions within that group where the news broke.
I am not saying that Reiner Fuellmich is, or is not implicated in what might be a Scientology operation.
But it is very striking that another German Freedom Fighter who had gone on trial, Michael Ballweg, the founder of "Querdenken“ was also connected to another Scientology member in the early days of the Querdenken movement who had helped raise funds for the early rallies (and thus must have had some knowledge of the flow of money in the resistance).
Again: Reiner Fuellmich and Michael Ballweg need not even have been aware of what was going on around them. But given the involvement of yet another prominent Scientology member, Leigh Dundas, in the US-military-cancer-increase affair, it should make us be aware of how much bigger this might be.
Uwe, thank you as well for engaging. I can see that this matter is quantum entangled, and I can see that anybody who deigns to think they can get a clear bead on it will find that it's…well, hard to find the beginning of the string, never mind the end.
I think Reiner did outstanding work. He doesn't strike me as a man who cares about money. His wife Inka, for her part, is the one who urged him to get into this war, this fight. In my experience, anybody who gets into this war winds up maimed. Or killed. Or in prison. In my case it was maimed, but not killed. I had friends who were killed. I had colleagues who committed suicide, and one who was thrown in prison based on planted evidence. This is the HIV war I am speaking of. I speak to you as somebody with only a shard of my former "self" even activated.
We have very bad actors in our midst.
Reiner is not, I believe, one of them. There are many who have grafted shamelessly off the purses of the frightened. And I would lead the charge against COVID GRIFTERS, if asked. I myself earn just under survival amounts, and strictly from my own writings, here, and the roughly 3% of paid subscribers.
As for Reiner coming against Vivian—did he, in your view, do so utterly out of proportion with what she did to him?
"Reiner Fuellmich has a right to defend himself."
I'm sure you understand the echo—the reference.
We will continue to do our best.
“As for Reiner coming against Vivian—did he, in your view, do so utterly out of proportion with what she did to him?” – Yes I do. And it is a tragedy that he can not understand that - in essence - it was his obligation to get the funds back to the committee in the summer of 2022. At least the Gold. There were so many people involved in that discussion that it is even a bit of a stretch to repeat his tune that it was she who did this to him. It needn't have happened. It shouldn't. As there was liquidity available (in Gold, at least) which should have been returned swiftly, in order to follow-up a dilligent restructuring of the financial affairs of the committee.
Yesterday I wrote personally to Celia (you cc'd) on receiving your substack message. Celia replied, you did not. Meanwhile I have come to the conclusion that this investigative journalist and historian is no better than the rest and a waste of time. You, Uwe, have obviously not been following events and revelations, but are keen to have your say and upticks.
A few of your questions may warrant attention, others do not because they have long been clarified. Before engaging in a debate it is incumbent on you (and anyone) to obtain answers to the "low-hanging fruit" issues
I have just lost a lot of time exposing the popular fraudster Ehret. Am reluctant to go down the rabbit hole you have manufactured, apparently to satisfy your vanity.
I wrote yesterday to Celia:
>> Uwe Alschner raises many questions, several of which I could answer because I have followed some of the events more closely than he has. For example, about the gold. "Why did he not just provide the Gold and have the rest be settled in good time?" Because the gold is held jointly by Viviane and him, now at a holding company, previously with a friend of Viviane. The two (V. and R.) would have to present themselves together in person for access to the gold. But Reiner was in Mexico, having had his visa to the USA cancelled overnight. This cancellation can only have been due to dirty tricks coordinated between the US and German govts. As Elsa Schieder can confirm, his wife Inka has said that they were lured to the airport on false pretences, their passports having disappeared. So that is one of Uwe's sceptical questions answered.
I cannot answer all the questions Uwe raises, but easily a number of them, simply by having followed developments from early on.
Viviane had zero right to exclude Reiner from the Corona-Ausschuss / Investigative Committee since they were equal partners. Why does Uwe not mention this, when it is the most crucial point?
The accusation now made by Reiner is that the proceeds from the house sale were not transferred to him because of a corrupt notary or else the buyer being intimidated. <<
Thank you for reminding me of vanity.
Your comment on the gold is factually imprecise and incorrect with regards to the initial situation.
I have made it clear that these questions were relevant long before RF went to Mexico. It was relevant in July/August of 2022 when RF was acting very strangely according to a number of people involved. At that time the gold was in a private home belonging to one of his friends. VF eventually went there and obtained it. She has published a picture of how it was stored. Thereafter it was put in a depository. And now it can only be got at with RF and VF acting jointly. But that’s not how it was originally. You should also guard against vanity when writing that you know more than other people.
"Reiner did outstanding work. He doesn't strike me as a man who cares about money." EXACTLY!!! Reiner came out of retirement to pursue this matter and bring the criminals to justice. Please remember all you doubting Thomas's that millions of people have died because of the fake "pandemic" and the demonstrably toxic injections that followed in its wake. Reiner is an established professional with an illustrious career. He is targeted by the "elites" because he is a threat to their criminal agenda. A man with his background and credentials doesn't suddenly become a criminal whose goal was to extract money from the Corona Investigative Committee...Never forget, while wangling is going on over these absurd accusations...people are still being injected with poison against a non existent virus and as pointed out by Ed Dowd and his statistics--cancer and thrombosis and other deadly diseases are inexplicably creating huge excess deaths. This is the crime we need to focus on. "Never again really is now" A major genocide has/is occurring--- Dr. Fuellmich did not need to dirty his hands in this dangerous business. He literally came out of retirement after a successful career. He is a hero and he was fighting those who want us all dead. I am sure that having little splinter groups forming and fighting among ourselves is part of the agenda. WAKE UP...."they" want to kill your kids and our grandkids. Just as the Georgia "guide stones" said..."they" want to trim the population down to 500,000 world wide. And "they" are hard at it. Birth rates in the US fell drastically while excess deaths sky rocketed. Huge numbers of us have been poisoned with a toxic injection created in the wake of a fake virus. All this has been proven...and people are wangling over some stupid business of a bank account in a country that has been thoroughly corrupted by the thieves and monsters from the WEF. Good god....have we no common sense left?
Thank you for your balanced view.
It is very naive that many are blindly trusting what Reiner said without the other side.
It's almost like hero worship fueled by the fear of the state shutting things down. Reiner spun it that way.
But I'll be honest, the weirdest thing is that he knew there was a complaint against him and instead of dealing with it, he stayed in Mexico. I recall during his cic days he was either in Germany or California.
Why Mexico?
Also, as a lawyer didn't he know that skipping a trial could result in a warrant that could be executed in Germany, which includes the German embassy?
He was arrested for the same reason you can be arrested for not answering a speeding ticket. He's a lawyer and knew this. So his actions were suspicious to go to Mexico for an extended time.
I suppose if he never needed to get a replacement passport, he would still be in Mexico.
At least now in court they can show whether he's telling the truth or lying. If it's ambiguous or rigged it will be easy to see. Let the proof make the case, not word alone.
But everyone else: how are you so sure Viv is lying but Reiner is telling the truth? Do y'all have any date or are you going on "feeling"?
Rob, there has been evidence your comment seems unaware of. I greatly resent the accusation of either "blindness," or "hero worship."
The other side of what you call "hero worship" is what passes for strong mindedness to facts these days, but it's instead a feeding frenzy on "heroes," that has it black tentacles everywhere. You're behind on the trends! The new trend is SHRED people, especially anyone who collected any kind of admiration for fighting against Beast Pharma. Petty resentments, envy, dressed up and hero busting, of sorry hero BUSTIN, and not "falling for" hero syndromes. Same game.
Dark spirits in underdog/hero drag.
How can we agree on: 1. what is evidence? 2. what can evidence be measured forensically? 3. what evidence team Reiner has presented THUS far?
Please advise.
A few possibilities that ran through my mind.
1) he's innocent and they're doing what you're saying
2) he's guilty and using that narrative to pretend he's guilty
3) this was a confusing and stupid way of holding money for the cic and it's infighting
We don't know until the case is made on both sides.
It didn't help that instead of just saying it's a false accusation, he pulled character assassination on Vivian. They did that to you when you were challenging the HIV and AIDS scam. Character assassination is cheap and lazy. He gets no respect for that abuse.
I'm sorry but that's not the way to challenge a false accusation and that's why I don't see it as a set up but that there's some confusingly weird ways of the cic and him dealing with money.
Anyway, the amount of money they raised is ridiculous for the work they have done. You work harder than them on a pittance compared to their show trials and interviews. Perhaps it is number 3, infighting.
Edit: my girlfriend had a variation on number 3... They were trying to hide money and hot potato, sold out Reiner. Hmmm
All of this is just a distraction from the real crime. The largest genocide in history has taken place. And now we are all focused on a relatively insignificant bank account?...For petes sakes...it's like the classic "rage over a lost penny"...
Our children's lives are at stake....they are putting poison into the entire childhood vaccination schedule....and you maunder on and on about a stupid bank account? I cannot believe this idiocy. It is like arguing over whether the WTC was blown up with dynamite or high tech weapons....A terrible crime--way beyond financial malfeasance has been committed...The name of the crime is genocide or "mass murder"....doesn't anyone remember that? Please...remember this. We are losing sight of the real criminals as we become distracted by this ridiculous smoke screen....Reiner Fuellmich has a past. He is well respected. Does anyone really believe he would suddenly turn into a thief?
If it were my money that were stolen, I would want justice.
It's not me, but those who accuse him that have the right to take him to court.
An Emergency state like you describe doesn't stop the legal system. The government and powerful people would like to pick and choose when, though.
The ones who break the laws would like that to happen and that's why they try to make it black and white.
If he's innocent, it will be clear as he stated. There's financial records that are evidence. This is not a case based on he said she said, there's documents etc.
Case closed.
o.k. Let me say it again...children are being injected with a toxic sterilizing "vaccine" at this very moment. This "vaccine" followed in the wake of a totally fake global "emergency" engineered and broadcast by the Klaus Schwabian Nazis that are still lusting for our blood....those are real crimes with millions of victims....And the crime is ongoing...
Can we have a sense of proportion here? The Mrna "vaccines" are being placed into the childhood schedule...EVERY CHILD WILL BE HURT....got that?
This wrangling about comparatively trivial sums of money when millions of children's lives are still being threatened and the global "control grid" is being established in which we will be electronically controlled and monitored ...is simply beyond me. We are fighting over nickels and dimes as our futures are being sacked.
Rob, you’re missing a lot of information therefore your comment can’t be taken seriously. You don’t even know why Reiner was in Mexico do you? We do! You should do your own research! Reiner Füllmich is innocent and he’s telling the truth. He was always open and honest about what happened. My advice to you is to get your information straight before writing such nonsense. By the way Sherlock, the judiciary in Germany is corrupt! You obviously know nothing. You’re suspicious!
Why was he in Mexico then? If you know. I haven't heard any explanation why. Enlighten me, thanks.
I will not enlighten you, I will tell you the truth. Reiner publicly said that he and his wife wanted to sell their house to permanently move to their ranch in California. He had already been living there for a while when he left to interview Barry Trower in the UK. From there, he flew to Germany to pickup his wife. They then flew to Peru for an interview. From Lima, Mr and Mrs Füllmich were to fly back to California. That did not happen because Reiner was informed that his american visa had been canceled. After 25 years, US cancels his visa! Reiner Füllmich does not only have a property in California, is a member of the BAR! That’s when they decided to fly to Mexico to be with German friends who have permanently moved there. They have a nice german community there and they were happy before Germany kidnapped him! That’s the true story.
He's a lawyer and he didn't know that not responding to a case against him is a crime in itself?
He can just go there and prove he's innocent with the financial records.
Not stay away from it thinking it will go away.
You definitely have not been following 🤦♀️ Yes he’s a lawyer and, NO, he didn’t know! He was secretly investigated, trapped and kidnapped. Totally ILLEGAL!
Yulia, do you know what "The Truth Barrier" refers to? I've explained it many times. Are you so clouded that you think it refers to a FENCE that blocks truth?
you're always a riot "yulia."
Leave the crap in ...We could use a few more chuckles. :-)
Thank you for doing this Celia! I will offer up prayers for you at First Saturday Mass today🙏🏻
Weird haircut lady with the strangely placed barrette was suspect to me from the onset...She seemed not right...I'm praying for him.
Agreed
Yes-- the little blond idiot was always an enigma. She looked weird from the get go and seemed way out of her depth.
Do you know how and why these two unlikely character types ..Reiner and Vivian, became connected in the investigation?
. Is Vivian an articled clerk or have other legal experience?
Or is she his secretary or girlfriend or other?
Viviane was introduced to Reiner, and recommended to him as a partner in the original Corona Investigative Committee, by none other than Wolfgang Wodarg. Wodarg served as their main medical person on the CIC, and still serves as such, w/ Viviane now in charge of the original CIC... Wodarg, btw, is standing by Viviane and NOT Reiner. So, he, too, has been duped hugely by Viviane.
I have read a little about Wodarg...seems as if he has a shadowy past with a now defunct international health organization or was it the WHO? Wodarg impressed me as someone who knew his way around but was trying to appear on the right side...He has gone silent and is probably hiding somewhere...In his defense, I seem to remember he did come out against the fake "pandemic"....is that not true?
Praying for you. What a set-up .. 🙏🙏
Looks like another superating boil in the festering and foul corona body is about to pop out its pus.
Please expose the corruption behind Reiner’s imprisonment! His investigations are right “over the target”...hence, this unjust imprisonment