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The buck doesn't stop with LBJ. Johnson was a rabid Zionist, who committed treason by enabling Israel's coup of our government through his facilitation of JFK's assassination.

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Indeed. I posted a screen shot to that effect. I believe Israel/Mossad was behind JFK's murder.

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So no CIA involvement?

JFK had pissed so many people off that Dallas 1963 starts to look like the scene at the Munich Beer Festival in the Pink Panther Strikes Again with a small army of assassins lining up to kill Clouseau - in JFK’s case LBJ, Mossad, CIA and the Mob being the chief suspects (assuming Lee Harvey Oswald as a lone gunman is out), or a combination of any or all of the above.

Given Oswald’s connections with the CIA (whose de facto head Allen Dulles had come to detest the upstart President), Ruby’s connections with the mob and that it happened in Dallas, as well as the circumstances of the later assassination of RFK, seems to me Mossad is the least likely of the candidates. It’s also hard - but I suppose not impossible - to imagine that the then-15 year old country would have risked its survival by assassinating the President of the U.S. for limited apparent gain.

My money remains on the CIA, with their visceral hatred of Kennedy and their liberal attitude to assassination of political leaders at that time, as orchestrators, possibly with some mob help and possibly with LBJ’s knowledge and support. It is doubtful that any other of the players would have had the power or reach to 1) organise the assassination itself, 2) set Oswald up as patsy, 3) control the situation/body in the Dallas hospital, 4) have Ruby kill Oswald, with the latter in police custody and, most importantly, 5) ensure the Warren Commission (which Dulles managed to get himself on to and which he largely controlled) was essentially a rubber stamp for the lone gunman theory.

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Mossad the least "likely of the candidates? Unless CIA/MI6/Mossad were and are one and the same? And "small gain"? The Nam war not only donated 100 billion 1970 bucks to the Military Industrial Congressional Complex, it made the CIA the show runner of the US military. And while the Tet offensive was all over the TV, Israel was conquering Gaza and the West Bank; while murdering the crew of USS Liberty wile Johnson hushed it up.

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USS Liberty was 1967. Not easy to tie it back to the Kennedy assassination.

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I disagree. But it's a great discussion to have again be so lively. It's bringing up and tying a lot of very relevant history together.

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You're right. See http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/1.html followed by 7 articles from the Argentinian mainstream media documenting what a student at a Mercy College annex in the Washington Heights campus told several of us in the fall 1993 adding, "It's in the Argentinian press." It is, and now it's in my press at the above link. See my comment up above for more on this assassination.

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It is, though I would tend to give most of the credit to the CIA itself. Always very careful to limit unnecessary involvement for obvious reasons, while maintaining that plausible deniability that is their core objective.

Anyone interested in their - the CIA’s - possible involvement in the JFK murder should read The Devil’s Chessboard. The degree and depth of their amorality and depravity is quite unsettling.

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I liked FAMILY OF SECRETS better....

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Another book I’ll have to research! Thanks!

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Another very dubious clan. Trump is - assuming he goes for it as I hope he will - taking on a monster, a hydra.

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A book I’ll have to research! Thanks!

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CIA = Mossad = ?

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LBJ kicks it off, lets the CIA/M in on it. That's why they got rid of Nixon, too. And then Jimmy Carter is the cover-up for that (after Ford, their guy on the Warren Commission). Then we get the head of the CIA as VP and then as President. Clintons see the model and utilize it (HRC was also involved in WG and knew what was really happening at the DNC and sussed out LBJ's role). They turned that into a globalist machine and provided transnational racketeering--Bill has a lot of LBJ characteristics and shares a background in good old boy networks that utilize Mafia like techniques in Hope, for one, and Hot Springs).Soros and his ilk get a hold of the network and get their hands on the levers and put forth Obama. This ties in with The Octopus in Italy and the Sicilian Mafia controls. This is a rough sketch of the last 60 years of global governance.

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Great find about the Mac Wallace recording.

BOTH President Trump and President Biden had the opportunity to release the JFK documents, Both did NOT release the documents. Trump held back some 20% of JFK documents in 2017.

Roger Stone had asked, "Why didn't you let it all out?"

Trump, according to Stone, made this excuse, "I can't tell you. It's so horrible. You wouldn't believe it. Someday you'll find out."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-told-roger-stone-he-wont-believe-whats-classified-jfk-files-1811156

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From L5 News:

"... It is, in fact, the elder Bush’s involvement, directing events and identifying witnesses to be murdered after the execution of the president, that motivated Donald Trump to maliciously withhold the distribution in 2017 of all the information in government archives relating to the JFK assassination, despite a public law ordering that release. Now that Barbara and George HW Bush are thoroughly dead, perhaps the new Trump administration will finally condescend to the frequently expressed desire of the vast majority of Americans and get around to actually sharing all the documents. ..."

~ L5 News: "Villainy exists and explains much" by Jim Davidson

https://l5news.substack.com/p/villainy-exists?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

^Interesting take on MANY historical villainies including the assassination of JFK.^

I have zero hope the JFK documents will be released, though Trump has now won his THIRD Presidential (s)election in 2024. I say I have no hope about this because (1) as we already know, Trump had the chance but decided against release in 2017, and (2) Trump has apparently fully embraced the Zionist state.

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because they (Biden, Trump, Bush, and Roger Stone btw)are ALL owned and controlled by the Judaic supremacists

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One cannot be (s)elected President UNLESS you're pro Zionist, pro Pharma, pro jabs, pro experimental mRNA genetic therapy, pro big tech, and now pro bio-digital convergence. Go against these, and you'll catch a REAL bullet, or your plane is sure to crash. And the pols all know this.

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Oh puleeez.

You've been well and truly indoctrinated by Marxists Freemasons and Jesuits in the scapegoating of Jews.

Zionism was to do with creating a homeland for the Jews who have been the scapegoats for over 3000 years.

From Roman times they were attacked by Empires who did not want patriotism or nationalism to spread. The Russian Bolshevists were at the heart of the Jew expulsion from Russia in 1800's. One of the reasons they killed the Russian Royal family.

Here read this. https://carolinecoram.substack.com/p/a-marxist-and-a-zionist.

and then https://carolinecoram.substack.com/p/what-led-the-jews-and-the-british

The monarchist institutions are threatened so they respond by destroying other nations . Both France and Britain and Germany as well as Italy were involved Israel and with the Arabs and wanted to protect their investment into the Suez Canal amongst their other occupied territories.

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"... Zionism was to do with creating a homeland for the Jews ..."

^THIS^ is merely the ostensible, overly simplistic reason, so oft repeated that many people come to believe it's the only reason.

I suspect you may have swallowed ^that nice little gem^ which, if regurgitated on a middle school history test, will be rewarded with a grade of "A+."

That the British Crown and their London bankers wanted a military base in the Middle East in order to control the flow of oil coming out of the region is IMHO by far the stronger reason for the creation of the zionist state.

Israel is also quite useful to leaders in Arab states such as Saudi Arabia, who like to blame the zionist state for many problems, so as to deflect blame from the ruling Saudi royals onto the Jewish state. All the better to control their own potentially rebellious Arab populations.

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He just found the tape and doesn't know. But yes, what exactly was Mac Wallace's role and where was he? But you saw the quick shot of the newspaper implicating Wallace in the murder of Kinser who had attempted to blackmail LBJ over his sister Josefa's affair with Wallace. I first heard this story about 20 years ago--it's been out there for a long time. You can find a good and intriguing bio here:

https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKwallaceM.htm

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No such thing as Judaic supremacists. You're smoking your socks. Look further into the Saxe-Coburgs, because that is where it originated long before America was created.

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On the campaign trail, Trump was asked by RFK, Jr. why he didn't release the assassination files in his first term. Trump said Mike Pompeo (CIA director, later Sec. of State) told him not to.

Flavor-aid was the lethal drink at Jonestown, not the more popular Kool-Aid.

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Not at all a fan of deep-state Pompeo, so it would not surprise if true.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but it was the *grape* flavor of the Flavor Aid beverage that was (allegedly) drunk by only the children at the People's Temple Agricultural Project. The general public has come to know the place by the name of "Jonestown" due to Mockingbird media repetition as if "Jonestown" were the true name of the place for this most unfortunate, experimental, military exercise. TBH I considered changing my user ID handle, but decided against it. 🍇🍸

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/fda-hires-jim-jones-to-improve-food/comment/71557924

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JFK wanted nuclear inspection of Israel and lobbying to be labeled as a foreign power. He also threatened the Fed by peging the dollar to silver.

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thank you for saying so out loud

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Definitely. Well done. See what I have on that at

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td14/16.html Israel orders kill Kennedy

Peace,

Arlene Johnson

Publisher/Author

http://www.truedemocracy.net

To access the rest of my work, click on the icon that says Magazine where is much more on JFK in various editions that is mentioned on the cover.

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Mossad was most probably a British creation as was their Arab Creation of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

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Israel/Mossad may have been deeply involved, but the murder of JFK can't be laid at any one entity. The National Security State orchestrated it, the mob participated in it (they are tied deeply to the intelligence communities), but it served the interests of the colonialist oligarchy, who ordered it.

JFK was working towards an end to colonialism the world over, and that includes here in the USA. There was a revolution fought for independence in the 18th century, but that was revisited several times (War of 1812, US Civil War, Federal Reserve Act, murder of several presidents and many other leading figures in opposition to colonialism along the way).

In many ways, the opposition to the faction that has coalesced around Trump is yet another chapter in that revolution, while the opposition to BRICS is another chapter in the ongoing fight to end colonialism around the world.

The idea that the buck stops with Israel is a red herring, designed to keep you from seeing the party that put Israel on the map.

Israel is a British colony. Therefore, AIPAC is another entity designed to sell the US out to the European oligarchy, much like the CFR, which is an extension of the Royal Institute for International Affairs.

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Celia, I've yet to see a false flag that was really a false flag as it is commonly understood, they've all turned out to be 100% psyop. JFK's assassination was faked ... and they tell us it was Revelation-of-the-Method style.

https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/jfk-the-magic-bullet-theory-john

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I believe that Jackie Kennedy set the plan in motion

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All propaganda. I watched all agog an Italian documentary that incriminated Valerio Borghese, a navy commander and neo-fascist, in the alleged JFK assassination. The reason for my being agog was that V. Borghese was the father of a family friend who'd migrated to Australia. I'm like, I know the son of someone who participated in the assassination of JFK?? Surely not.

... but then I discovered the whole thing was fake and I'm like, "Why on earth are the Italians making propaganda to incriminate their own so many years later?"

Documentary if you're interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wInUkNXCctk

JFK's assassination is clearly faked because they always tell us Revelation-of-the-Method style.

https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/jfk-the-magic-bullet-theory-john

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Remember the Liberty

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Thanks for that ridiculous comment from the ADL script, but I’m pretty sure you meant to talk about that carnival sideshow fraud on 10/7.

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Yes I do sir I do recall

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Bullshit

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The story doesn't add up in any shape or form, there is clear evidence of image fakery, there are too few people lining the streets, shadows are wrong, Zapruder film is a joke ... and on and on. What makes you so certain the assassination wasn't faked?

https://jeromearmstrong.substack.com/p/fake-jfk-x-movie-kennedy-squib-assassination

https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/agent-zapruder-the-john-f-kennedy-assassination-was-a-hoax/

https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/frame-313-the-jfk-assassination-was-a-hoax/

Frame-by-frame analysis of the Zapruder film - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prGNxjJXog0

https://www.academia.edu/14445007/The_JFK_Assassination_A_Manufactured_non_Event_by_Miles_W_Mathis

https://pieceofmindful.com/2017/03/05/jfktv/

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His face was blown off, much like many of the Liberty crew. LBJ took over, pumped 50 gallons of Trotskyite adrenaline into the police state that JFK was trying to quell and didn’t give a damn about the sailors that Zionist terrorists killed. What the fuck thinks you have the right to question that you lunatic terrorist?

Go far away.

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Ha ha ,really funny . I’ve been reading jfk books since 1968

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And you've never wondered why Lt James Forrestal was thrown out of 16th story window at Bethesda Medical Hospital in 1949 ?

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CIA

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Control

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He got dosed ,Manchurian candidate style

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MK ultra

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I read Whitewash way back then

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Oh the books! If the info isn’t in the “books” it must be false. How about the movies? Do those count for indisputable truth too?

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Let’s make up some new theories jus for fun

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Ok but what your fav theory to step off on? That or give me a date and year

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Yes, but that's not all that I exposed regarding that assassination. There's much more. See http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/1.html Why

http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/2a.html Photos of

http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/2b.html La Nacion documentation

http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/2c.html Who Killed Kennedy?

http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/2d.html Witnessed died

http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/2e.html More gunners

http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/2f.html La Razon article

http://www.truedemocracy.net/w01/2g.html Shot in the forehead

http://www.truedemocracy.net/s01/did.html Wanted to nationalize energy & eliminate oil depletion allowance

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td3/shadow/s81.html Signed EO 11110

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td2_3/68_dyk.html More Kennedy assassins-Jesuits

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td14/16.html Israel orders kill Kennedy

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td14/contents.html Quote on right side of the page

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td21/09a.html 3 More reasons why

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td22/16.html Last of 3 items; this is my Did You Know? feature.

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td-28/21.html Death of Kennedy-Nixon resigned rather than facing impeachment

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td-28/25.html Judges grill CIA lawyers

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td-28/55.html 3rd item down; this is my Did You Know? feature

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td-29/2.html Gerald R. Ford book on assassination

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td-30/31.html CIA Lawyers to Face JFK Questions

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td-30/51.html Key financier of JFK Assassination-Item 17 of Did You Know?

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj31/47.html 15th item-This is my Did You Know? feature.

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj32/16.html Dishonest presentation in The Atlantic

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj32/30.html More on EO 11110

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj32/34a.html Bay of Pigs 15th item-This is my Did You Know? feature

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj33/24.html Bay of Pigs, 1st item-This is my Did You Know? feature.

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj34/30.html Who shot the fatal shot & why-Did You Know? 7th item.

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj35/35.html EO12608 replaces EO 11110 19th item-This is my Did You Know? feature

http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj36/36.html Scroll all the way down to the very end to read about The Zapruder film inside story. This is my Did You Know? feature.

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My husband sent me this pertinent link:

Nadira Ali🇵🇸 (@Nadira_ali12) posted at 3:30 PM on Mon, Jan 13, 2025:

🇮🇱🇺🇸MOSSAD killed John F Kennedy because they were furious JFK made Ben-Gurion the first PM and founder of Israel resign. https://t.co/IrEdnb75Ox

(https://x.com/Nadira_ali12/status/1878947638521020620?s=02)

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No no I was nice. I M just showing no limits poker

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You amuse me

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I couldn't care less if a troll is amused.

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JFK assassination amuses me as well,how about you?

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Good for you. That shows spine,shows you got guts

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I’m pleased to meet you. I’m the Discordian

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I am the music of the spheres

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I have a very long history . Reddit banned me

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My mom is 86 years old and when I asked her who killed JFK, she said, “everyone knew it was LBJ; it wasn’t the secret the government thought it would be”! Glad to see the Truth coming to Light!

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The operation and all the murders that came with it after the fact was so massive even LBJ couldn't do it without the deep state fully involved.

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very true.

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I guess we will see but unfortunately I agree with you that is what set up long ago exactly how it is playing out.

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This makes me wonder about a possible Israeli blackmail operation against LBJ - on the JFK assassination - to keep a tight lid about the USS Liberty attack by Israel to try to get the U.S. into war with Egypt. (Just thinking out loud.)

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The USS Liberty is beyond egregious! And no one seems to give a crap.

If Israel was doing this decades ago, and aren’t held accountable, what is Israel doing NOW?!

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They completely own/control our govt.

Years ago I read The Host and the Parasite by Greg Felton and he mentioned Lt Col Karen Kwiatkowski (regular guest on Judge Nap) who said that when she was at the Pentagon (Bush 1 years), the "Israelis walked around like they owned the place." She said ordinary procedure for any foreigner was to wait for an escort, but not the Israelis. (I highly recommend Felton's book).

IMO, the Rothschilds have owned/controlled America even before they got their private money making machine (The Federal Reserve). I listened to the The Great Red Dragon (1899) audiobook and it showed how they were already in control and took over the economy.

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BOOM!

Until people get out of the propaganda box, and critically think…as well as regarding Truth, spiritual level (Intuition), change cannot occur.

This is my humble opinion.

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I woke up to all of this (Israeli control over America) years ago--what really woke me up was listening to Benjamin Freedman's 1961 speech. He was an ex-insider, so he knew and saw what was going on, said the Zionists ruled over America like absolute monarchs. And that was decades ago.

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I’ve listened to Freedman’s speech as well. Quite profound!

And yet, people are still sound asleep!💤

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Benjamin H. Freedman's book, 'The Hidden Tyranny,' is very informative as well.

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Continuing to slaughter innocents and foment dissension under the false banner of "Israel has a right to defend itself."

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The State of Israel was formed under deception. What a ruse!

I’m on the side of Truth and Humanity. I love God/Creator with my entire being!

The evil doers have done an excellent job of twisting tRUTH. One’s Intuition, and God/Creator connection is a shied against evil.

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Agreed, my dear. In my alternate reality, there wouldn't be any compulsory public education. But if there were, required courses for middle and high school students would include courses like "Fundamentals of Logic", "Consciousness (Mind) Level 1: Fact, Opinion and Belief", "Consciousness (Mind) Level 2: Basic Logic", "Consciousness (Mind) Level 3: Identifying and Analyzing Official Narratives", and "Consciousness (Heart and Soul): Beyond the Material World".

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Thoughts are things, for sure! I concur!

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As assassinations researcher Lisa Pease notably once said, "ABC -- anybody but the CIA." We can update that to "ABCM -- anybody but the CIA and Mossad." See French researcher Laurent Guyenot's 2022 article "Angleton, Mossad and the Kennedy Assassination." https://www.unz.com/article/angleton-mossad-and-the-kennedy-assassinations/

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Yes, I posted Guyenot's video above

Also recommend his book, Unspoken Kennedy Truth

Matthew Tower (ex-Zio Jew) also made a good documentary tying everything together:

https://x.com/TruthTowerPod/status/1775590036068597991

Israel's Second 9/11: How Zionism Conquered JFK, America, and Palestine

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I’ve always wondered if they’re so afraid of releasing the JFK files, why don’t they hide or destroy them? They’ve done, and are capable of, far worse than that. This endless tug of war smacks more like a continuous distraction.

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Maybe the JFK files are already destroyed. Why would a murderous conspiracy have files?

The NASA files regarding the moon landing were destroyed. Or were they?

Smoke and mirrors…

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LBJ killed him for embarrassing him? Yeah, sure. How convenient.

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i question the validity of this "tape". with all the current intrigue and psyops within psyops, and the many areas of current people culpability and the running and hiding and cover stories etc ... the tape conversation to me is so scripted and even ending with "ok, enough, lets go im and have coffee" - COME ON 👽

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I admit it. I'm cynical and have "Finally! The Truth is Coming Out!" fatigue.

I couldn't sit through that presentation, or even 5 minutes of it, but my first question was what's the chain of custody for that recording, and is it admissible as legal evidence.

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I don’t trust Freemason Jones or LBJ.

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Who had the goods on J Edgar Hoover back then 🤔? Remember his proclivities were not exactly of the day ...

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Masons do whatever they want.

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LBJ may have had his own desire to assassinate JFK, but the assassination was a much more sophisticated and broader conspiracy. The fact remains that without the US Deep State structures this could not have been pulled off. In every engineered event look for culprits behind the power which fashions the official narrative, defends it against all sorts of contradictory evidence and prevents any real investigations. Soviets, Mafia, Cubans, and even LBJ did not posses such powers.

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We have interviewed Judyth Vary Baker several times now. (By "we I mean myself and other hosts"). I have been pretty well convinced that she is telling the truth about her relationship with Lee Oswald, right up until the last days. She went into hiding for a long time, but is openly speaking about "Sparky" (Jack Ruby) and David Ferrie being involved with Lee and the CIA gun and drug running crowd. Lee was trying to stop Kennedy's murder. He might have been the one who warned of the attempt in Chicago on Kennedy.

Lee knew he was being watched and possibly set-up. Roger Stone thinks her story is true. Judyth did an interview with us just about 2 weeks ago. She is still talking and telling us about what happened. There are plenty of videos out there you can watch if you search Judyth Vary Baker.

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so lemme get this straight: some dude had the tape and just happened to sit on it for 8 years until the week of the DEW attack on cali

[raised-eyebrow emoji]

plus dark maga alex costuming/lighting

i don't buy it

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Wonder how the yearned-for revelations will go over at the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library and Museum in Austin.

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Roger Stone wrote a book https://starklibrary.bibliocommons.com/v2/record/S199C1845967

a very convincing case against LBJ.

Be that as it may, Trump will be going up against the same operational paradigm that made JFK wet. The players are not the same but the dark institution that others created is still there.

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I read it a few years ago.

I don’t think people realize how deeply Israel was/IS involved.

Read, “Final Judgment-The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy”-Michael Collins Piper

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totally agree.

Also read, Laurent Guyenot's The Unspoken Kennedy Truth, or watch:

Israel & The Assassinations of the Kennedy Brothers: A Documentary By Laurent Guyénot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a37FM542MXE

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thought this was interesting, Martin Sandler, editor of The Letters of John F Kennedy" talked about the angry letters between JFK and Ben Gurion, and said he read articles in very sophisticated publications saying forget everyone else, Mossad killed Kennedy b/c they were so upset about what he did to Ben Gurion. Seems to fit with what MCP wrote about.

https://x.com/Nadira_ali12/status/1878947638521020620

Also, I think it's quite interesting and telling that Alex Jones NEVER had MCP on his show to talk about his Final Judgment book, though he did many shows on the JFK assassionation.

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Maybe Tucker can get him 😂🤣😅!

Think for yourself!

The “truth” is being spoon fed to people. And most don’t question it!

“Trust but verify.”

How about verify then trust?

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Michael Collins Piper died in 2015 IIRC.

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Wary of Alex Jones today. New psyop?

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