That Said, Kary's Objections To PCR As Diagnostic Tool For HIV/AIDS ARE Applicable to Covid. Doubtful He Would Have Called Anybody A Conspiracy Theorist. Under Any Circumstances.
I also wonder about his pneumonia. Covid was no doubt here before they said it was. In Santa Clara county, late 2019, there was a huge wave of a strange pneumonia-like illness going around (we got it). I'm sure it was covid. Most people were treated as if it was pneumonia and recovered.
So basically they treated people correctly before the decision to tell people to stay at home, turn blue, and then return to the hospital for a hefty dose of remdesivir and ventilation...
In LA area also. Took days to get in for a sinus infection, was told there is a bad, lingering flu and dr was booked full in early Dec 2019. In Oct 2019 worked with a guy who never got sick, he was out of work for a week and then came back still sick, said he had the worse cold ever in his life. All systems of the you know.
The fact is Mr. Mullis left this world at a time very convenient to the cult-covidian conspirators. Suspicion of foul play comes only naturally under the circumstances, since the scamdemic was also a plandemic, and long years of preparation (documented) went with it.
Well, the thought certainly occurred to me that she might be some kind of agent but then I told myself off for being so conspiracy-minded. But who the hell knows? Certainly agents form relationships with their infiltrees and even have children by them. They would've known this was coming a long time ... but it just seems preposterous.
McLibel leaflet was co-written by undercover police officer Bob Lambert
This is yer wheelhouse, Celia, so you'll know best but everything 'bout this rings wrong to me... I smell a (lab) rat!
This comes too late, as ya said, it was seemin'ly forced too (let's tick off all the points--covid loonies--check!, apologies to late hubby's "enemy" Fauxchee as if all is fergiven' -- double check!, minimizin' the strength and integrity've her late spouse's statements and scientific work--click yes! and making the loonies sound like mean stalkers tormentin' her? using the most creepy "social media" posts 'r tweets that could've been manufactured? -- triple check!).
Was she "asked" to do this open admission in the press--clearly at this point havin' less skin in the game (to defend her now-dead husband however much he loved'er) and was she left with possibly fewer dinero's in the wallet so an offer seemed--welcome? Think about Courtney Love's "reaction" to Kurt's death sending "conspiracy" folks away and sayin' Kurt dunnit (which was a physical impossibility...)... And wasn't Michale Hasting's wife "compelled" to say that there was no monkey business too? Sometimes it's not just incentive--some spouses are made offers they cain't refuse! (Kanye just said his own mama was taken out to keep him in line...) Family members are very much "involved" on command... I just think this stinks!
Now I'm not sayin' "fer sure" something less kosher went down, but it's happened more'n' once in the past.... The article seems to actually try to pass Mullis off as a crackpot-not-genius who indulged in LSD and astrology, which is a useful angle used to discredit many free-thinkers and get their valid 'er even brilliant ideas dismissed by association (with odd habits...). (Poor Tesla!--they called him the pigeon man!)
Also... some've what she says is totally bogus. Can they harm folks remotely? You bet! Even drive by, or stuff can be placed into a home that can cause all manner of "innocent" health issues, the heart is often a target. They can put stuff in food that comes in by delivery or taint the taps (it's been done), they can intervene with pharmacy prescriptions, then there's emf and other types of gangstalking that can be done remotely, and who is t'say his on doctors didn't "treat him" in some way to worsen his condition--whistleblower Bill Binney would go to regular doctors 'er dentists with legit problems and found some had been (paid to?) implant tiny devices in his molars and bones. FOUND on MRIs and too small to remove. The tech is there, the spooks are there, Team Fauxchee has Big Backers standin' in the shadows and takin' out someone "just in time" for a pandemic would be easy. Mullis could've blown the whole thing--the conspiracy theorists had / have still every reason to believe something was not right there... Again, take outs can be slow.... not all are instant...
Proud Tinfoil MadHatter here--sure it's possible the man died without any outsider "help" but just as easy to believe a few hidden hands bidin' their time (Biden their time!) were in the wings.
Crackpot thoughts possibly too dystopian ta' believe in this era where billions of humans are bein' culled? Nah. Just some cud to chaw on from left field...a field smellin' ripe fer grazin' now...
I actually deep down mean not to say there was no foul play, only that Nancy Mullis has stated there was not foul play and that people should reference that. Should not call Kary "perfectly healthy" when he died. I almost never stand on a spot and say, "this is the final resting place of the whole truth about this matter." Can they harm folks remotely? Big important question. What happened to Nick Gonzales? What happened to Brandy Vaughn? What happened to Andrew Breitbart?
The patterns are not predictable, which is part of it. Somebody who knows Tesla's whole story better than anybody I know said he was murdered. I have read that Orwell was too. But he did have advanced TB, right?
With somebody like Gary Webb, it's hard to say he killed himself or he was killed because what they do, and I have been through this, is they make your life so impossible that you are in a sense already dead, if that makes sense. You're a ghost. You have no "reputation" or income, your marriages falls apart, you're broke, ashamed, your friends desert you, you become depressed, you get very sick from what I call "mystery illness," depression engulfs you...Like ...what happened to Liam Scheff? Excruciating tinnitus drove him to take his life and he did take his life. 100% He believed he got the tinnitus from a botched dental procedure.
The more people stick together and no particular person has a target on their back, the better. That's why I detest in-fighting. People who really know the war they know that it's very dangerous to lobby accusations in such a way that they are no longer "fair game" science disputes but closer to degradation tactics used by the enemy. Which in turn means we have to think more seriously about infiltration, agents, and so forth. Their job is to divide, demoralize, and fracture movements of people unifying against something dangerous.
Try to love everybody, I say, for what they DID contribute, did get right. Try to not attack people who may have some blind spots. It doesn't mean they're blind.
Death by remote: Pacemakers can indeed be adjusted and turned off remotely. It's a nifty--and convenient--feature of modern devices.
No need to be concerned, however. The widow has assured us this was not murder. "The [summer] pneumonia probably just finished him off." Is that not all we need to know? Case closed. His mother had heart attacks for Crysakes and he had bypass surgery 14 years prior. Given such a thoughtful case analysis by an obviously bereaved widow, how could doubt possibly linger?
We may not wish to put it so tenderly but hasn't pneumonia "finished off" many of our own loved ones?
yup, I fergot them remote options fer pacemakers (an' insulin pumps too), both "hackable ani-mables"...agreed that the Lady in Mourning (tm) comes off as a bit've a Black Widow... almost dismissive re her husband...I know tabloids can push "their" story-agenda but the whole thing...as I said...stinks ta high heaven! (not sure if I'm ready to name an "accessory" but it's been known to happen, ain't too farfetched--As ya know, some folks are paid to..."assist"...or act as handlers" (and this can include marriage) --handlers who control narratives AND lives or take orders from them that do... Nancy Regan was one've 'em... Saved Ronnie's life at Walter Reed an' micromanaged his every movement post-hit as part of the deal...kept him in line good...) I'm willin' to go there tho with Ms. Mullis... ya never know...
Note how we are conditioned to regard as absurd the very vulnerabilities and exploits the ruling class has engineered to make us more controllable. We must believe no one would dare turn off our pacemaker. I do not doubt that the system even has a code for hiding the interrupt.
yup, so many in this category, full-out agree!--I tend to think those ya listed did not go out "naturally" and many (like BrandyV) even posted ahead of time about just this.... Fer sure, I understood that you weren't fully saying there was no foul play in the whole debacle and that you were also not keen on how this played out. Even with people with imperfect health from the start, conditions can be hastened or (to put it darkly...) "boosted"--this is the whole horror with cullin' the elderly with these jabs and life-extinguishin' protocols....their health is already more fragile....
And agin' many get the "slow cull" technique... used to be arsenic, other things now are far more precise and less detectable by a coroner... which is why Mullis's dyin' right before the plandemic to me is suspect timing-wise. If it was, say, 2016 one eyebrow might've stayed down.... Another one I wunder'bout is Alan Watt who died in 2021 (not to be confused with Watts who went out far earlier) and was crankin' out warnings until the end. Watt also was The Man Who Knew Too Much (beautiful soul there...).
Agreed we should figger out a way to protect anyone with a target (or potential one) on their back--but HOW? As I type I worry 'bout Sasha Latypova as she dug up the DOD connections that show a direct line to this ordered cull... But the nuts n' bolts matter... do we crowd-fund 24 hour security--I mean HOW does one protect the brave (and clearly not all've us have even the $-resources to do so)? Mebbe Steve Kirsch could set up his own "whistleblower" protection program? Not a cynic here, but sendin' out just love an' deep appreciation and directin' "eyes" on the potentially vulnerable (all good stuff, don't git me wrong) does not put a guard at the door or a faraday 'round an apartment...or a poison tester betwixt them an' their meds/vitamins/food.... THEY have means (an' mockinbirds...)... We have many good minds but a solution, I fear, needs to be concrete... If the aware public's job was to protect Mullis I think we failed... and I remain very untrustin' of his late wife's moment in The Sun....
I was just thinkin' too about Rushdie and even the wonderful Naomi Wolf--what can we really do to keep those speakin' out as safe as possible?
100% agreed. The Sun is THE WORST tabloid scummy rag in UK. As soon as that reference appeared in the quotation I knew we are looking at something very stinky indeed.
I feel terrible for his widow! What horrible demons to contact her so much she felt an apology to Fauci was important! What a terrible place to be, grieving and being attacked by the fake news!
So now we know, Kary wasn’t killed like some scientists (allegedly)have been thru the years…like Dr Mark Buller, World’s Leading Orthopox expert who was hit by a car while riding his bike right before his retirement in 2017 (he spoke ill of money pox shots & small pox shots during his 30+yr career in gain of function garbage) or Dr Frank Plummer, a Canadian & world renowned SARS/H1N1 scientist (who disputed the cause of SARS in 2003) died of “suspected heart attack” while getting an award in Africa in 2020. Both of those men worked at some point for or with the NIAID…sigh… In my opinion, Kary Mullis WAS murdered, by the health system. His wife mentioned, “The six-way open heart surgery led, over the years, to blood pressure problems, several ablations, a pacemaker inserted for erratic and low heart beat, and a stent.” As a nurse I have seen that pattern to many times to count. Sadly, Kary was caught up in the system of “managed care” that sends everyone down the same path of blood pressure meds, that lead to side effects that lead to mineral deficiencies that lead to nutritional problems that lead to medical events/surgery and finally death. I feel terrible for him and his wife. He had so much knowledge yet still took the doctor’s word of “heart issues run in your family”-blaming his genes for his illnesses. Maybe his doctors were alternative and they tried everything, but from what she said, I doubt it. After my son was vax brain injured in 2008, I left the floor to work for private doctors that didn’t follow the managed care/health insurance road to hell. I have had so many patients that actually improve/recover from heart issues when they, with the help of trained professionals, stop the meds, dump the medical system and move into Chiropractic, Nutrition, Homeopathy, positive thinking etc… Dr Cowan has a wonderful book, “Human Heart, Cosmic Heart” and “Practicing Medicine Without a License, The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease” by Owen Fonorow, that I wish Kary would have been able to read. He probably would have loved them and they might have helped free himself from the medical downward spiral that he found himself in. Lord knows what pressures were placed on his widow to apologize to that a-hole, but I hope she can find peace and strength in the years to come. May he Rest in Peace. -Jen
I was just talking today with word herder, both our dads given dementia from taking statins, mine was so emotionally traumatised (as we all were), he died at 72, having played sport all his life, fit as a fiddle, slender and healthy but trusted too much in the opinion of professionals, who said his cholesterol was slightly high.
I know of one person with high blood pressure who instead of been told to do yoga was put on blood pressure pills, which completely destroyed her kidney function, ended up on dialysis; a young women in her 30's.
And another young women who's adrenal function completely destroyed by anti-infammatories- who wouldn't have have taken them had she known this risk.
I also met someone recently with UC who said his doctor had been managing his treatment for 30 years! Jeez. Like that's something to be proud of!
The major risk factors for UC are diets high in meat, high in sulphur containing amino acids cysteine and methionine (found mostly in animal products), diets low in fibre and insoluble starch and alcohol consumption. Fortunately these are modifiable, and a life time on drugs, which can have severe side-effects and are very expensive, is not necessary.
She probably apologized to fauci because she herself was a believer in the con-vid hype...
The joke is that a lot of these people who saw the HIV fraud still look back as if polio was cured by vaccines... i think Duesburg and Mullis are good examples on how they only went one step into the grays.
No, polio was pesticides, but who cares anyway... "We solved it"
WOW. reading your Substacks this HIV/AIDS scam has been news to me. makes me wonder about other, profitable areas like cancer/chemo… interesting comments by the researcher from Amgen about resistance to discuss/debate both sides years ago… unbelievable.
I've looked into this a little https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/how-effective-is-chemotherapy Only 10% of FDA approved drugs show any improvement in survival at all! The 10% show an improvement in 5 year survival in only 1 in 100 patients. The extension in survival is on average about 2 months.
I'm not sure about dentistry, seems to be it's pretty low tech but can offer immense pain relief to those of us who don't look after our teeth properly. I make no comment on you North Americans who also like them to look nice!
But going to a psychiatrist on the other hand is 'probably the most dangerous thing you can do in the western world' from Peter Breggin psychiatrist - he may not be up there with virus but he's right about the crime and stupidity of the profession - his life threatened and had body guards when he began to speak out, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3K-CojzvzQ
A wonderfully meaty article. Lots to learn; I've seen shorter bits of some of the Mullis videos, but the two-hour one above is one i will try to watch in full at some point. If any of you find there are a lot of loose ends in the above, there are; it is too big a subject for one blog post.
To get the fuller picture, I HIGHLY recommend reading "Serious Adverse Events" by Celia Farber. It is fascinating, very accessible, and very compelling reading, like a thriller; revelation after revelation (I devoured it in one night). Hard to find in hard copy (there is one in the library near me, but probably not most places; however, it can be found in electronic formats. Or try "Interlibrary loan." It REALLY should be republished.)
The other best resource I know for these matters is the documentary "House of Numbers" by Brent Leung, winner of Seven "Best Documentary" awards at film festivals. Here is a lihk:
I'm sure it is also available on Rumble and elsewhere. The DVD is your best option, as it has two bonus discs with hours of longer interview material that wouldn't fit in the film. And if you like "House of Numbers" then check out "the Emporer's New Virus," a follow-up documentary also by Brent Leung.
Thank you, Celia, from the bottom of my heart, for your excellent and shockingly rare journalism on this subject.
Understanding HIV was how I got a handle on the whole covid thing, which I was complelelty incredulous about from the start . From HIV https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-intellectual-freedom and covid I went to virtually ever other treatment and advice given by state sponsored medicine; having worked in it myself for 25 years in the NHS and cancer research, only rarely questioning it- for example why was no one wondering why chinese women in china had such low breast cancer incidence compared to US and UK, yet when they came here and started eating our food and milk instead of soy, the rates shot up.
I did hear that Mullis' widow had said he died naturally, this was in early 2021 but not sure where I heard it from, Sam Bailey possibly. The circles I have travelled in have never, ever said that he was bumped off. I did hear that maybe Montagnier was as he just started to speak out!
I've never heard anyone say that Mullis was talking about covid in the clips of him, but a description of what the PCR can and cannot do, by its inventor, is clearly applicable to whatever it's being used for.
Yes, that's bull. He says that PCR cannot tell you if you're sick and the context was AIDS but that doesn't mean it only applies to AIDS. People's stupidity drives me absolutely nuts.
Where you heard it, of course, was from fake fact-checks gas lighting Kary's criticism of using PCR as the proxy for illness by disingenuously disparaging those types of posts as false because KM was dead "before Covid".
This article touches on Ukraine, where I live. I especially liked the video of Kary Mullis and others, and will use it in my blog.
The United States agency for international development has been beating the drums for AIDS here in Ukraine ever since I arrived 15 years ago. They plaster the walls of our Metro with posters encouraging people to get an AIDS test. Newsmagazines say that this is an epicenter of AIDS.
I don't see any of it. I lived in Washington DC in the 1980s. I had several friends and acquaintances die of AIDS. I know what it looks like. I do not see it here.
Coming from San Francisco, and having lived in Washington DC, I know the gay community fairly well. Kyiv has a small gay community. They are well-tolerated but not very numerous. The US Embassy has been flying the rainbow flag, promoting gay pride parades and so on, but nobody seems to care.
The ways in which Ukraine has been compromised by United States interests, and connections with the Democratic Party, are coming out I think there is meat here for an investigative journalist.
I have loved reading up on Kary and David over the past couple years. David’s work on SARS-1 blows away the SARS-2 narrative. His death does seem a bit suspect because he was meant to live longer. Targeted or unlucky?
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2)"
They didn't isolate the virus.
So Kary died of a pneumonia huh? Sounds to me that #4 was just a victim , on the far end of fear, of the globally coordinated advertising campaign to rebrand the constellation of respiratory distress as Covid.
Considering AIDS and 9/11 I doubt the truth will ever come out. I only hope to influence my own sphere enough, along with enough other critical thinkers doing the same to theirs, to resist digital IDs, ESG, and central bank digital currency.
Thank you for writing about the essential flaws in using PCR as a test for any infectious diseases. It simply cannot be used as such for reasons you named, primarily the number of cycles chosen by a lab is arbitrary. Second the nucleic acid fragment chosen is arbitrary. This manufacturing technique has malfunctioned so badly when used as a test, because it has been so inappropriately misapplied as such.
When that happens on a global scale with deliberately provoked public panic, what could have gone wrong? I think we found out the hard way.
I wrote about the inadequacy of PCR testing in my book The Defeat Of COVID, and the clinical signs and symptoms that were far more helpful to diagnose and successfully treat COVID patients over the last few years. None of my COVID patients were hospitalized. All recovered, usually within a week, sometimes 2 weeks. Average ages in their 70's.
"For what it's worth, I just met Kary Mullis's ex at a conference. She's certain they killed him."
This discussion I saw around it after the fourth wife's comments is that Senger didn't specify which wife, and referring to a widow as an "ex" is not generally done.
But I definitely see your point about how the baseless speculation, of which I suppose I've done a little bit in Twitter comments, is now being used to discredit everything he said.
Mebbe ya can send Senger a message to see which one? how many widows/widowers have had to fess something in press that was NOT what they privately revealed off the record? how many had to walk back "suspicions" or change their story--given time for THEM to git to 'em? I certainly think Senger is tellin' the truth 'bout what he heard... Also as they say in the movies, "Zey haf vays off makink yoo co-opairate"...
And that “M-16” must have surely had a very convincing way to alter her memory
And one can only speculate how much $$$ it took to kiss Fawchee’s ass. Especially since Mullis on more than one occasion stated the Fawchee “knew nothing about nothing”
Kary must be turning over in his grave knowing his wife dissed him big time.
Thanks for this, Celia. I am relieved to know that he had suffered from health problems, and was not killed under suspicious circumstances. But I have a story for you as to why I don’t agree with his wife re: Covid. I read the link you provided and see that she had clearly bought into all the scamdemic B.S., and is now attributing her own views to her late husband.
When my own late husband Harold A. Rosen (died Jan. 2017) and I sat across the dinner table from her and Kary Mullis in 2003 at a National Inventors Hall of Fame event, I remember the pained and embarrassed expression on her face (at the time, I felt bad for her) when Kary loudly and angrily argued with my husband that HIV did not cause AIDS. I’m sorry now that my husband was disparaging of Kary’s “conspiracy theory” views (I think that this is what set Kary off). Even though the discussion was becoming heated, I stayed “nice” and just asked questions of Kary: I was puzzled as to why Kary would think that, as I had never heard that view expressed before by someone so obviously intelligent and knowledgable. The discussion became almost comical when another man at the table apparently became offended that Kary was talking to Harold and me (a woman! And not an inductee to the National Inventors Hall of Fame as he, Harold and Kary were!) and everyone seemed to be ignoring his (frankly, insipid remarks) and attempts to join the 3-way conversation, and got up in a huff to leave, actually knocking his chair over in the process! Meanwhile, Kary’s wife looked super-uncomfortable: she was clearly used to Kary going off like that. So I am with you, Celia: I believe she didn’t like that aspect of Kary and is now attributing thoughts and motivations to Kary that he never held!!
I remember the riveting night when I read the first chapter of your book... and my eyes were finally opened. I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. And...Kary was right all along!
By then, Harold had passed away so I never got to discuss these amazing revelations with him. And it pains me to think that we both thought the whole 2003 episode was funny... like the weirdest thing we had ever seen or experienced at a dinner event.
Deborah what an incredible story. Thank you for sharing it. I suppose I can dare say that Nancy pulled Kary out of this thing, at a certain point. It was known that "Kary wouldn't be discussing HIV anymore." At the same time, he was sick of it and drained and sad. But I still did one more interview with him after it was communicated that Kary would never address it again. Nancy did not love the subject, no. I always thought simply: 'She's trying to protect him."
Wives often discourage their husbands from speaking their minds, in the name of protecting them.
Being crazy, I wouldn't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but it often made my job more difficult.
Celia, thanks for your response here (I’m enormously gratified)... and for your additional insights.
My own thought is that Nancy was protecting herself (from embarrassment) rather than protecting him. She stifled him, and he complied. Having love and companionship of a woman, especially at the end of one’s life, becomes paramount. I’ve seen this many times.
Here’s a contrasting example. I remember my own husband steaming as we stood next to each other on the podium at Google headquarters during the Google Lunar X-Prize team meeting, Feb. 2008. He had hated the “commercialization” of moon mining, etc., being promoted in a film just shown. That is most assuredly NOT why he had entered the competition — he had very strong (and well-founded, I might add) beliefs regarding what was feasible in that arena. I whispered in his ear: “Go for it, Harold.” I knew that he would keep quiet if I didn’t give him a go-ahead, but I thought: “He needs to do this — he has worked his whole life on these issues, and deserves to speak his mind!” He then unleashed his passionate and cogent arguments against the film that had just been shown, stunning the audience.
So I feel pretty certain that for Nancy, “graciousness” and “fitting in” were paramount. She didn’t like the outspoken part of Kary’s personality that likely embarrassed her to no end. As he got older (and sicker), her own power in the relationship increased and she just made him stop.
Yes. In fact, it was several years earlier. It was known that "Kary wasn't talking about it anymore." I need to think carefully about what to say.
The dissident movement was infiltrated (not speaking of Nancy at all here) by truly malevolent forces and they are still in operation, as "handlers" and controllers.
They found Tom Cowan's vulnerability. They know exactly where to go and how to gain entree.
These are some of the worst people in the world.
My best guess is they are angry because they have no imagination.
Great post - thank you Celia. I too immediately suspected foul play in Kary Mullis's untimely death knowing he would have completely destroyed the "+PCR-testing=cases" narrative instituted as part of the "official" covid fear campaign. However, about as generous as I can be about the matter is to concede that what Kary's death did in the end is to save the vast media censorship machine the need to shamelessly suppress everything he would have had to say about the misuse of PCR during the covid fear mongering. I'm sure had he lived Kary would have appreciated the slapstick level irony of being fatuously 'fact checked' and found to be a "purveyor of disinformation" about his own discovery - by some clueless 23-year-old Facebook history major hired as a "fact-checker." Great to see your book is coming.
Don't you find it strange that his widow felt the need to apologise to Fauci , considering what a disaster the man has been ?
I read that last year and it just felt fake to me. I don’t know the woman, but it sounds ridiculous.
I also wonder about his pneumonia. Covid was no doubt here before they said it was. In Santa Clara county, late 2019, there was a huge wave of a strange pneumonia-like illness going around (we got it). I'm sure it was covid. Most people were treated as if it was pneumonia and recovered.
So basically they treated people correctly before the decision to tell people to stay at home, turn blue, and then return to the hospital for a hefty dose of remdesivir and ventilation...
Yep.
In LA area also. Took days to get in for a sinus infection, was told there is a bad, lingering flu and dr was booked full in early Dec 2019. In Oct 2019 worked with a guy who never got sick, he was out of work for a week and then came back still sick, said he had the worse cold ever in his life. All systems of the you know.
I thought the same. Like Celia writes, we should stick with what we know, but if we speculate the worst, gangsters will keep people in order: https://prepareforchange.net/2016/02/20/list-of-over-100-dead-microbiologists/ . Not a fan of that site, but at least it has an actual list of the microbiologists.
The fact is Mr. Mullis left this world at a time very convenient to the cult-covidian conspirators. Suspicion of foul play comes only naturally under the circumstances, since the scamdemic was also a plandemic, and long years of preparation (documented) went with it.
Well, the thought certainly occurred to me that she might be some kind of agent but then I told myself off for being so conspiracy-minded. But who the hell knows? Certainly agents form relationships with their infiltrees and even have children by them. They would've known this was coming a long time ... but it just seems preposterous.
McLibel leaflet was co-written by undercover police officer Bob Lambert
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/21/mclibel-leaflet-police-bob-lambert-mcdonalds
Deep Deception - The story of the spycop network, by the women who uncovered the shocking truth
https://www.penguin.com.au/books/deep-deception-9781473585300
This is yer wheelhouse, Celia, so you'll know best but everything 'bout this rings wrong to me... I smell a (lab) rat!
This comes too late, as ya said, it was seemin'ly forced too (let's tick off all the points--covid loonies--check!, apologies to late hubby's "enemy" Fauxchee as if all is fergiven' -- double check!, minimizin' the strength and integrity've her late spouse's statements and scientific work--click yes! and making the loonies sound like mean stalkers tormentin' her? using the most creepy "social media" posts 'r tweets that could've been manufactured? -- triple check!).
Was she "asked" to do this open admission in the press--clearly at this point havin' less skin in the game (to defend her now-dead husband however much he loved'er) and was she left with possibly fewer dinero's in the wallet so an offer seemed--welcome? Think about Courtney Love's "reaction" to Kurt's death sending "conspiracy" folks away and sayin' Kurt dunnit (which was a physical impossibility...)... And wasn't Michale Hasting's wife "compelled" to say that there was no monkey business too? Sometimes it's not just incentive--some spouses are made offers they cain't refuse! (Kanye just said his own mama was taken out to keep him in line...) Family members are very much "involved" on command... I just think this stinks!
Now I'm not sayin' "fer sure" something less kosher went down, but it's happened more'n' once in the past.... The article seems to actually try to pass Mullis off as a crackpot-not-genius who indulged in LSD and astrology, which is a useful angle used to discredit many free-thinkers and get their valid 'er even brilliant ideas dismissed by association (with odd habits...). (Poor Tesla!--they called him the pigeon man!)
Also... some've what she says is totally bogus. Can they harm folks remotely? You bet! Even drive by, or stuff can be placed into a home that can cause all manner of "innocent" health issues, the heart is often a target. They can put stuff in food that comes in by delivery or taint the taps (it's been done), they can intervene with pharmacy prescriptions, then there's emf and other types of gangstalking that can be done remotely, and who is t'say his on doctors didn't "treat him" in some way to worsen his condition--whistleblower Bill Binney would go to regular doctors 'er dentists with legit problems and found some had been (paid to?) implant tiny devices in his molars and bones. FOUND on MRIs and too small to remove. The tech is there, the spooks are there, Team Fauxchee has Big Backers standin' in the shadows and takin' out someone "just in time" for a pandemic would be easy. Mullis could've blown the whole thing--the conspiracy theorists had / have still every reason to believe something was not right there... Again, take outs can be slow.... not all are instant...
Proud Tinfoil MadHatter here--sure it's possible the man died without any outsider "help" but just as easy to believe a few hidden hands bidin' their time (Biden their time!) were in the wings.
Crackpot thoughts possibly too dystopian ta' believe in this era where billions of humans are bein' culled? Nah. Just some cud to chaw on from left field...a field smellin' ripe fer grazin' now...
I actually deep down mean not to say there was no foul play, only that Nancy Mullis has stated there was not foul play and that people should reference that. Should not call Kary "perfectly healthy" when he died. I almost never stand on a spot and say, "this is the final resting place of the whole truth about this matter." Can they harm folks remotely? Big important question. What happened to Nick Gonzales? What happened to Brandy Vaughn? What happened to Andrew Breitbart?
The patterns are not predictable, which is part of it. Somebody who knows Tesla's whole story better than anybody I know said he was murdered. I have read that Orwell was too. But he did have advanced TB, right?
With somebody like Gary Webb, it's hard to say he killed himself or he was killed because what they do, and I have been through this, is they make your life so impossible that you are in a sense already dead, if that makes sense. You're a ghost. You have no "reputation" or income, your marriages falls apart, you're broke, ashamed, your friends desert you, you become depressed, you get very sick from what I call "mystery illness," depression engulfs you...Like ...what happened to Liam Scheff? Excruciating tinnitus drove him to take his life and he did take his life. 100% He believed he got the tinnitus from a botched dental procedure.
The more people stick together and no particular person has a target on their back, the better. That's why I detest in-fighting. People who really know the war they know that it's very dangerous to lobby accusations in such a way that they are no longer "fair game" science disputes but closer to degradation tactics used by the enemy. Which in turn means we have to think more seriously about infiltration, agents, and so forth. Their job is to divide, demoralize, and fracture movements of people unifying against something dangerous.
Try to love everybody, I say, for what they DID contribute, did get right. Try to not attack people who may have some blind spots. It doesn't mean they're blind.
Death by remote: Pacemakers can indeed be adjusted and turned off remotely. It's a nifty--and convenient--feature of modern devices.
No need to be concerned, however. The widow has assured us this was not murder. "The [summer] pneumonia probably just finished him off." Is that not all we need to know? Case closed. His mother had heart attacks for Crysakes and he had bypass surgery 14 years prior. Given such a thoughtful case analysis by an obviously bereaved widow, how could doubt possibly linger?
We may not wish to put it so tenderly but hasn't pneumonia "finished off" many of our own loved ones?
Sarcasm aside, perhaps we have a new suspect.
yup, I fergot them remote options fer pacemakers (an' insulin pumps too), both "hackable ani-mables"...agreed that the Lady in Mourning (tm) comes off as a bit've a Black Widow... almost dismissive re her husband...I know tabloids can push "their" story-agenda but the whole thing...as I said...stinks ta high heaven! (not sure if I'm ready to name an "accessory" but it's been known to happen, ain't too farfetched--As ya know, some folks are paid to..."assist"...or act as handlers" (and this can include marriage) --handlers who control narratives AND lives or take orders from them that do... Nancy Regan was one've 'em... Saved Ronnie's life at Walter Reed an' micromanaged his every movement post-hit as part of the deal...kept him in line good...) I'm willin' to go there tho with Ms. Mullis... ya never know...
Note how we are conditioned to regard as absurd the very vulnerabilities and exploits the ruling class has engineered to make us more controllable. We must believe no one would dare turn off our pacemaker. I do not doubt that the system even has a code for hiding the interrupt.
yup, so many in this category, full-out agree!--I tend to think those ya listed did not go out "naturally" and many (like BrandyV) even posted ahead of time about just this.... Fer sure, I understood that you weren't fully saying there was no foul play in the whole debacle and that you were also not keen on how this played out. Even with people with imperfect health from the start, conditions can be hastened or (to put it darkly...) "boosted"--this is the whole horror with cullin' the elderly with these jabs and life-extinguishin' protocols....their health is already more fragile....
And agin' many get the "slow cull" technique... used to be arsenic, other things now are far more precise and less detectable by a coroner... which is why Mullis's dyin' right before the plandemic to me is suspect timing-wise. If it was, say, 2016 one eyebrow might've stayed down.... Another one I wunder'bout is Alan Watt who died in 2021 (not to be confused with Watts who went out far earlier) and was crankin' out warnings until the end. Watt also was The Man Who Knew Too Much (beautiful soul there...).
Agreed we should figger out a way to protect anyone with a target (or potential one) on their back--but HOW? As I type I worry 'bout Sasha Latypova as she dug up the DOD connections that show a direct line to this ordered cull... But the nuts n' bolts matter... do we crowd-fund 24 hour security--I mean HOW does one protect the brave (and clearly not all've us have even the $-resources to do so)? Mebbe Steve Kirsch could set up his own "whistleblower" protection program? Not a cynic here, but sendin' out just love an' deep appreciation and directin' "eyes" on the potentially vulnerable (all good stuff, don't git me wrong) does not put a guard at the door or a faraday 'round an apartment...or a poison tester betwixt them an' their meds/vitamins/food.... THEY have means (an' mockinbirds...)... We have many good minds but a solution, I fear, needs to be concrete... If the aware public's job was to protect Mullis I think we failed... and I remain very untrustin' of his late wife's moment in The Sun....
I was just thinkin' too about Rushdie and even the wonderful Naomi Wolf--what can we really do to keep those speakin' out as safe as possible?
100% agreed. The Sun is THE WORST tabloid scummy rag in UK. As soon as that reference appeared in the quotation I knew we are looking at something very stinky indeed.
I feel terrible for his widow! What horrible demons to contact her so much she felt an apology to Fauci was important! What a terrible place to be, grieving and being attacked by the fake news!
So now we know, Kary wasn’t killed like some scientists (allegedly)have been thru the years…like Dr Mark Buller, World’s Leading Orthopox expert who was hit by a car while riding his bike right before his retirement in 2017 (he spoke ill of money pox shots & small pox shots during his 30+yr career in gain of function garbage) or Dr Frank Plummer, a Canadian & world renowned SARS/H1N1 scientist (who disputed the cause of SARS in 2003) died of “suspected heart attack” while getting an award in Africa in 2020. Both of those men worked at some point for or with the NIAID…sigh… In my opinion, Kary Mullis WAS murdered, by the health system. His wife mentioned, “The six-way open heart surgery led, over the years, to blood pressure problems, several ablations, a pacemaker inserted for erratic and low heart beat, and a stent.” As a nurse I have seen that pattern to many times to count. Sadly, Kary was caught up in the system of “managed care” that sends everyone down the same path of blood pressure meds, that lead to side effects that lead to mineral deficiencies that lead to nutritional problems that lead to medical events/surgery and finally death. I feel terrible for him and his wife. He had so much knowledge yet still took the doctor’s word of “heart issues run in your family”-blaming his genes for his illnesses. Maybe his doctors were alternative and they tried everything, but from what she said, I doubt it. After my son was vax brain injured in 2008, I left the floor to work for private doctors that didn’t follow the managed care/health insurance road to hell. I have had so many patients that actually improve/recover from heart issues when they, with the help of trained professionals, stop the meds, dump the medical system and move into Chiropractic, Nutrition, Homeopathy, positive thinking etc… Dr Cowan has a wonderful book, “Human Heart, Cosmic Heart” and “Practicing Medicine Without a License, The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease” by Owen Fonorow, that I wish Kary would have been able to read. He probably would have loved them and they might have helped free himself from the medical downward spiral that he found himself in. Lord knows what pressures were placed on his widow to apologize to that a-hole, but I hope she can find peace and strength in the years to come. May he Rest in Peace. -Jen
Yes, well said,
I was just talking today with word herder, both our dads given dementia from taking statins, mine was so emotionally traumatised (as we all were), he died at 72, having played sport all his life, fit as a fiddle, slender and healthy but trusted too much in the opinion of professionals, who said his cholesterol was slightly high.
I know of one person with high blood pressure who instead of been told to do yoga was put on blood pressure pills, which completely destroyed her kidney function, ended up on dialysis; a young women in her 30's.
And another young women who's adrenal function completely destroyed by anti-infammatories- who wouldn't have have taken them had she known this risk.
I also met someone recently with UC who said his doctor had been managing his treatment for 30 years! Jeez. Like that's something to be proud of!
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In the case of UC what could have been done
Hiya X-man,
I am soooo glad that you asked.
The major risk factors for UC are diets high in meat, high in sulphur containing amino acids cysteine and methionine (found mostly in animal products), diets low in fibre and insoluble starch and alcohol consumption. Fortunately these are modifiable, and a life time on drugs, which can have severe side-effects and are very expensive, is not necessary.
I've written a post with some references https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/ulcerative-colitis
Jo
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She probably apologized to fauci because she herself was a believer in the con-vid hype...
The joke is that a lot of these people who saw the HIV fraud still look back as if polio was cured by vaccines... i think Duesburg and Mullis are good examples on how they only went one step into the grays.
No, polio was pesticides, but who cares anyway... "We solved it"
WOW. reading your Substacks this HIV/AIDS scam has been news to me. makes me wonder about other, profitable areas like cancer/chemo… interesting comments by the researcher from Amgen about resistance to discuss/debate both sides years ago… unbelievable.
Hiya,
I've looked into this a little https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/how-effective-is-chemotherapy Only 10% of FDA approved drugs show any improvement in survival at all! The 10% show an improvement in 5 year survival in only 1 in 100 patients. The extension in survival is on average about 2 months.
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Dentistry is highly profitable and it desperately needs a full investigation. And then there's psychiatry ...
I'm not sure about dentistry, seems to be it's pretty low tech but can offer immense pain relief to those of us who don't look after our teeth properly. I make no comment on you North Americans who also like them to look nice!
But going to a psychiatrist on the other hand is 'probably the most dangerous thing you can do in the western world' from Peter Breggin psychiatrist - he may not be up there with virus but he's right about the crime and stupidity of the profession - his life threatened and had body guards when he began to speak out, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3K-CojzvzQ
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See my comment below. I've lost all trust in medicine and gov entities.
Scam how?
scam: HIV virus causes AIDS (symptoms/death)
reality: AZT (drug pushed by Fauci to treat AIDS)/AIDS ‘treatment’ toxicity causes symptoms/death
analogy: COVID & ‘vax’/ remdesivir… same Fauci MO
try to read without 😿
http://www.duesberg.com/articles/2006%20Harper's,%20Farber%20on%20AIDS%20&%20cancer.pdf
This is brilliant!
A wonderfully meaty article. Lots to learn; I've seen shorter bits of some of the Mullis videos, but the two-hour one above is one i will try to watch in full at some point. If any of you find there are a lot of loose ends in the above, there are; it is too big a subject for one blog post.
To get the fuller picture, I HIGHLY recommend reading "Serious Adverse Events" by Celia Farber. It is fascinating, very accessible, and very compelling reading, like a thriller; revelation after revelation (I devoured it in one night). Hard to find in hard copy (there is one in the library near me, but probably not most places; however, it can be found in electronic formats. Or try "Interlibrary loan." It REALLY should be republished.)
The other best resource I know for these matters is the documentary "House of Numbers" by Brent Leung, winner of Seven "Best Documentary" awards at film festivals. Here is a lihk:
https://houseofnumbers.com/
I'm sure it is also available on Rumble and elsewhere. The DVD is your best option, as it has two bonus discs with hours of longer interview material that wouldn't fit in the film. And if you like "House of Numbers" then check out "the Emporer's New Virus," a follow-up documentary also by Brent Leung.
Thank you, Celia, from the bottom of my heart, for your excellent and shockingly rare journalism on this subject.
Just rewatched House of Numbers. Thank you for reminding me.
Nice one Celia,
Understanding HIV was how I got a handle on the whole covid thing, which I was complelelty incredulous about from the start . From HIV https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-intellectual-freedom and covid I went to virtually ever other treatment and advice given by state sponsored medicine; having worked in it myself for 25 years in the NHS and cancer research, only rarely questioning it- for example why was no one wondering why chinese women in china had such low breast cancer incidence compared to US and UK, yet when they came here and started eating our food and milk instead of soy, the rates shot up.
I did hear that Mullis' widow had said he died naturally, this was in early 2021 but not sure where I heard it from, Sam Bailey possibly. The circles I have travelled in have never, ever said that he was bumped off. I did hear that maybe Montagnier was as he just started to speak out!
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I've never heard anyone say that Mullis was talking about covid in the clips of him, but a description of what the PCR can and cannot do, by its inventor, is clearly applicable to whatever it's being used for.
Yes, that's bull. He says that PCR cannot tell you if you're sick and the context was AIDS but that doesn't mean it only applies to AIDS. People's stupidity drives me absolutely nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIIgpXHXeTI
This link is from Marvin Haberland's Control Experiment Telegram, one of the best for analysis on evidence for 'viruses': https://criticalcheck.wordpress.com/2022/05/08/pcr-and-real-time-rt-pcr-under-critical-review/#Critical-examination-Real-time-RT-PCR
Nice.
Where you heard it, of course, was from fake fact-checks gas lighting Kary's criticism of using PCR as the proxy for illness by disingenuously disparaging those types of posts as false because KM was dead "before Covid".
This article touches on Ukraine, where I live. I especially liked the video of Kary Mullis and others, and will use it in my blog.
The United States agency for international development has been beating the drums for AIDS here in Ukraine ever since I arrived 15 years ago. They plaster the walls of our Metro with posters encouraging people to get an AIDS test. Newsmagazines say that this is an epicenter of AIDS.
I don't see any of it. I lived in Washington DC in the 1980s. I had several friends and acquaintances die of AIDS. I know what it looks like. I do not see it here.
Coming from San Francisco, and having lived in Washington DC, I know the gay community fairly well. Kyiv has a small gay community. They are well-tolerated but not very numerous. The US Embassy has been flying the rainbow flag, promoting gay pride parades and so on, but nobody seems to care.
The ways in which Ukraine has been compromised by United States interests, and connections with the Democratic Party, are coming out I think there is meat here for an investigative journalist.
I would not trust those tests!!!
I have loved reading up on Kary and David over the past couple years. David’s work on SARS-1 blows away the SARS-2 narrative. His death does seem a bit suspect because he was meant to live longer. Targeted or unlucky?
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2)"
They didn't isolate the virus.
So Kary died of a pneumonia huh? Sounds to me that #4 was just a victim , on the far end of fear, of the globally coordinated advertising campaign to rebrand the constellation of respiratory distress as Covid.
And yet the minions of the world to this day STILL BELIEVE Covid exists.
It just goes to prove decades of brainwashing cannot easily be undone
Considering AIDS and 9/11 I doubt the truth will ever come out. I only hope to influence my own sphere enough, along with enough other critical thinkers doing the same to theirs, to resist digital IDs, ESG, and central bank digital currency.
Agree wholeheartedly
My first thought when I heard he died was he was offed.
My first thought when I heard that Nancy apologized was that she had to, or suffer (very) severe consequences.
Thank you for writing about the essential flaws in using PCR as a test for any infectious diseases. It simply cannot be used as such for reasons you named, primarily the number of cycles chosen by a lab is arbitrary. Second the nucleic acid fragment chosen is arbitrary. This manufacturing technique has malfunctioned so badly when used as a test, because it has been so inappropriately misapplied as such.
When that happens on a global scale with deliberately provoked public panic, what could have gone wrong? I think we found out the hard way.
I wrote about the inadequacy of PCR testing in my book The Defeat Of COVID, and the clinical signs and symptoms that were far more helpful to diagnose and successfully treat COVID patients over the last few years. None of my COVID patients were hospitalized. All recovered, usually within a week, sometimes 2 weeks. Average ages in their 70's.
You don't believe in PCR as diagnostic tool. But you believe in SARS-CoV-2 as an actual PROVEN and Isolated virus?
Who is the question for?
Doctor Huber.
Thank you, Colleen.
What do you think of this Michael Senger tweet from Feb. 24, 2022?
https://imgur.com/a/Sspd9pH
"For what it's worth, I just met Kary Mullis's ex at a conference. She's certain they killed him."
This discussion I saw around it after the fourth wife's comments is that Senger didn't specify which wife, and referring to a widow as an "ex" is not generally done.
But I definitely see your point about how the baseless speculation, of which I suppose I've done a little bit in Twitter comments, is now being used to discredit everything he said.
What that says is apparently everyone has a price
And hers was within the Sun’s budget
I notice that Senger's Twitter account was--and is--Suspended.
Mebbe ya can send Senger a message to see which one? how many widows/widowers have had to fess something in press that was NOT what they privately revealed off the record? how many had to walk back "suspicions" or change their story--given time for THEM to git to 'em? I certainly think Senger is tellin' the truth 'bout what he heard... Also as they say in the movies, "Zey haf vays off makink yoo co-opairate"...
And that “M-16” must have surely had a very convincing way to alter her memory
And one can only speculate how much $$$ it took to kiss Fawchee’s ass. Especially since Mullis on more than one occasion stated the Fawchee “knew nothing about nothing”
Kary must be turning over in his grave knowing his wife dissed him big time.
Thanks for this, Celia. I am relieved to know that he had suffered from health problems, and was not killed under suspicious circumstances. But I have a story for you as to why I don’t agree with his wife re: Covid. I read the link you provided and see that she had clearly bought into all the scamdemic B.S., and is now attributing her own views to her late husband.
When my own late husband Harold A. Rosen (died Jan. 2017) and I sat across the dinner table from her and Kary Mullis in 2003 at a National Inventors Hall of Fame event, I remember the pained and embarrassed expression on her face (at the time, I felt bad for her) when Kary loudly and angrily argued with my husband that HIV did not cause AIDS. I’m sorry now that my husband was disparaging of Kary’s “conspiracy theory” views (I think that this is what set Kary off). Even though the discussion was becoming heated, I stayed “nice” and just asked questions of Kary: I was puzzled as to why Kary would think that, as I had never heard that view expressed before by someone so obviously intelligent and knowledgable. The discussion became almost comical when another man at the table apparently became offended that Kary was talking to Harold and me (a woman! And not an inductee to the National Inventors Hall of Fame as he, Harold and Kary were!) and everyone seemed to be ignoring his (frankly, insipid remarks) and attempts to join the 3-way conversation, and got up in a huff to leave, actually knocking his chair over in the process! Meanwhile, Kary’s wife looked super-uncomfortable: she was clearly used to Kary going off like that. So I am with you, Celia: I believe she didn’t like that aspect of Kary and is now attributing thoughts and motivations to Kary that he never held!!
I remember the riveting night when I read the first chapter of your book... and my eyes were finally opened. I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. And...Kary was right all along!
By then, Harold had passed away so I never got to discuss these amazing revelations with him. And it pains me to think that we both thought the whole 2003 episode was funny... like the weirdest thing we had ever seen or experienced at a dinner event.
Deborah what an incredible story. Thank you for sharing it. I suppose I can dare say that Nancy pulled Kary out of this thing, at a certain point. It was known that "Kary wouldn't be discussing HIV anymore." At the same time, he was sick of it and drained and sad. But I still did one more interview with him after it was communicated that Kary would never address it again. Nancy did not love the subject, no. I always thought simply: 'She's trying to protect him."
Wives often discourage their husbands from speaking their minds, in the name of protecting them.
Being crazy, I wouldn't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but it often made my job more difficult.
Nancy was always gracious.
Celia, thanks for your response here (I’m enormously gratified)... and for your additional insights.
My own thought is that Nancy was protecting herself (from embarrassment) rather than protecting him. She stifled him, and he complied. Having love and companionship of a woman, especially at the end of one’s life, becomes paramount. I’ve seen this many times.
Here’s a contrasting example. I remember my own husband steaming as we stood next to each other on the podium at Google headquarters during the Google Lunar X-Prize team meeting, Feb. 2008. He had hated the “commercialization” of moon mining, etc., being promoted in a film just shown. That is most assuredly NOT why he had entered the competition — he had very strong (and well-founded, I might add) beliefs regarding what was feasible in that arena. I whispered in his ear: “Go for it, Harold.” I knew that he would keep quiet if I didn’t give him a go-ahead, but I thought: “He needs to do this — he has worked his whole life on these issues, and deserves to speak his mind!” He then unleashed his passionate and cogent arguments against the film that had just been shown, stunning the audience.
So I feel pretty certain that for Nancy, “graciousness” and “fitting in” were paramount. She didn’t like the outspoken part of Kary’s personality that likely embarrassed her to no end. As he got older (and sicker), her own power in the relationship increased and she just made him stop.
Yes. In fact, it was several years earlier. It was known that "Kary wasn't talking about it anymore." I need to think carefully about what to say.
The dissident movement was infiltrated (not speaking of Nancy at all here) by truly malevolent forces and they are still in operation, as "handlers" and controllers.
They found Tom Cowan's vulnerability. They know exactly where to go and how to gain entree.
These are some of the worst people in the world.
My best guess is they are angry because they have no imagination.
Or maybe their souls have no capacity for empathy.
Great post - thank you Celia. I too immediately suspected foul play in Kary Mullis's untimely death knowing he would have completely destroyed the "+PCR-testing=cases" narrative instituted as part of the "official" covid fear campaign. However, about as generous as I can be about the matter is to concede that what Kary's death did in the end is to save the vast media censorship machine the need to shamelessly suppress everything he would have had to say about the misuse of PCR during the covid fear mongering. I'm sure had he lived Kary would have appreciated the slapstick level irony of being fatuously 'fact checked' and found to be a "purveyor of disinformation" about his own discovery - by some clueless 23-year-old Facebook history major hired as a "fact-checker." Great to see your book is coming.