There can be no doubt about the heavy hand of, if not the government directly, then at least the power-adjacent big-money elite, in every aspect of the embarrassing spectacle that the Olympic Games has become, and in particular the grotesque bacchanal into which the “opening ceremonies” have metastasized.
And the reason it’s so grotesque is it represents how the elites think we do (or should) see ourselves. Far from being a simple and dignified recognition of all that the athletes have done to get there, it is instead a crude and clumsy, Soviet-style, masturbatory propaganda extravaganza, conceived by a circle of jerks who gleefully fleeced the taxpayer to pay the outrageous cost of staging it and now want to rub their hapless subjects’ noses in it.
The U.K. ceremony in 2012 was extremely unbearable- all that nhs nonsense with the dancing nurses….still, the evil ones do like to tell us what their plans are, don’t they?
EDIT: The comment is about my internal process.. After I typed it, I realized that maybe you were not even saying those folk Soviet dances were anything amazing. I want to make sure I clarity, and emphasize the love!!! xoxoxoxo
Celia, for the sake of intellectual integrity, I have to disappoint you on the folk dances in the Soviet culture. :-) They were completely robbed of soul comparing to the REAL folk dances, painfully so, I was just complaining to someone about that, about how pissed I feel that they stole the truth from me. I am really, really pissed off about that, actually (about what they did to music during my childhood). When I was growing up, "folk music" was the official thing, all the TV channels (all two of them) were broadcasting it, and the technical skills were there without a doubt, and "costumes," but not the soul. They were fake as f*ck. As child, I felt it, I didn't know why I felt it, everybody just yawned at them, but nobody I know of gave it any thought why. It was just considered lame, boring, but also inevitable because the television broadcast "folk" music, and it was ubiquitous, boring, not interesting, and ubiquitous. I think I am actually quite traumatized by the lie. When I discovered real folk music, or at least as close to it as it can be aftr centuries of theological terrorism, I wanted to cry. it was so real....
I love you. You know I am saying it with love and respect, I just felt a lot of emotion when you posted it, and remembered all the horror of soulless fake music that was eating at my truth as a child. The manipulators know how to manipulate!!!
Tessa I want to AGREE with you by way of also adding that I sit sometimes and watch folk dances to see if I can find even one I would wish to share. Except for a few of the Kurds in Iran, I can find almost no wolf dance that does not feel utterly fake and sort of created by some NGO. I think we are on the same page. My only quibble was that I never wrote those folk dancers were good, only that I was curious how ethnic national dances were encouraged by the Soviet Union at that time. Maybe you can speak to that. It's amazing you grew up there. Where you frightened of Brezhnev on the TV? What do you remember?
Yes, I think I misunderstood you about the Soviet dances you posted, thank you for clarifying what you meant! I actually feel good about being able to bring something up, talk it out with love and with a desire to actually understand wha the other person feels and why, and have a better clarity about the world from it.
"Friendship of peoples" was the theme, the fifteen republics, the Russian folk headdresses, the many braids of the women from the Central Asian cultures, and so on.Interestingly, on the ground, people from different republics really liked each other a lot more than now, today's animosities were created in a top-down manner, for geopolitical shifts, as it usually goes. But of course, I have only seen it how it expressed itself in Russia, and Russia was a dominant republic. I don't know how somebody in a small village in Tajikistan felt, and cannot speak to that.
I feel nothing about the leaders of the late Soviet Union. My memory is, they were all senile, nobody took them seriously by the time I was around. There were senile jokes about them, kinder jokes than the ones about Biden but jokes none the less. I heard Brezhnev was the least corrupt out of all of them (living modestly, more or less), but I really don't know if that opinion was based in facts or in wishful thinking.
Tessa, I went back and re-read it. When I need to express that I have been mid-read, or misunderstood, I get really stubborn. But please humor me. You perceived praise for the actual dances when there was none.
Tessa, I was not at all saying a thing about the quality of the dances. I was saying:
1. Wow, how bizarre, that this kind of ethnic nationalism was placed on display.
2. That I have a thing for folk dances in general.
3. That one can feel nostalgic for the Cold War in ways that feel shameful.
I was definitely not focusing on these as dances. Because when I do that it's different. I am certain you are 100% right, how fake they felt then, how fake they are. I was only really trying to contrast with Paris, yesterday.
I'll go back and see if maybeI am wrong, and came across as exulting about the dances.You never have to worry or apologize for correcting me Tessa. but in this instance, I feel I want to go back and see if I said anything suggesting I thought these were GOOD dances?
The most important thing here is that you have love, and I have love, and I love you also for how we can go into each other's "hot zones" and know that it is all for the sake of understanding, and do it gracefully (which is how I think human being are meant to function). That is one of the reasons I love and appreciate you,, you have integrity and passion!
Actually after I posted my comment, as an internal reaction to the video of the dances (that brought back my childhood), I asked myself, "Wait, did Celia actually praise the dances?" I re-read it, was not sure you did, and added the edit, your comments didn't show up here when I added the edit.
We need to do a whole conversation of the Soviet culture, it would be so interesting!
Without God, it seems we always end up here—nihilism, self-destruction, worshipping death. We are indeed fallen creatures in need of our true Creator to redeem us from this fallen pattern.
And even though my life was miserable in 1980, I too feel this deeply now:
“That Strange Nostalgia One Can Have For Times That Were By No Means Good, But Still, Less Confusing Than Today's World.”
This is more than removal of the creator. These are majik ceremonies that gain power by a large audience. Lucifer and later Ahriman were worshipped. But both these demons have been supplanted, Hell is run by Sorath for now.
For me, your first paragraph nails it. This is the inevitable outcome of a world that doesn't pay homage to The Creator. Indeed, it may have us idealizing a better time that may never have existed.
Very sad story but revealing none the less. And considering most Americans had no clue about what was behind the Soviet invasion (think CIA tool Osama Bin Ladin - AKA Tim Osman), the entire boycott was senseless and didn’t do a damn thing except deprive some world class athletes of achieving their dreams. And their presence in Moscow might have even improved relations in a very shaky uncertain time.
"That Strange Nostalgia One Can Have For Times That Were By No Means Good, But Still, Less Confusing Than Today's World"
As far as I'm concerned, that's it exactly. I remember a youth full of angst that now seems golden. People and places and events that exist only in memory of a few in my orbit, or even in mine alone.
There's a channel on YouTube called Dave Volsky's Back Door. He posts old NFL (and some other pro sports) games as they were broadcast, with commercials, mostly from the 70s and 80s. I no longer have any interest in viewing pro sports at all. But I have several times found it fascinating to watch old games as if they were playing out live. To watch old commercials made before men and women were trained by thought police to despise themselves, each in their own way. In some cases, I know with virtual certainty that I was clinging to the screen 40+ years ago, desperate to see my team move on in the playoffs.
The little bit I saw (over my shoulder from my seat at the bar) of whatever went on yesterday In Paris that was part of the “opening ceremonies” was so creepy, so repulsive I just don’t have words for it. France and French culture has a lot to offer but that spectacle was a national embarrassment.
I did think that the athletes sailing up the Seine is decorated boats was pretty cool, although the dinghies they gave Gabon and some of the other countries looked like they would have been more at home during the Mariel boat lift…
The one that I saw that stood out was the looong boat stuffed with Italians in the front and their alphabetic neighbors from Jamaica enthusiastically filling out the rest. Now that’s a party…
Bonus question:
How many of North Korea’s finest heroes are going to stay behind when it’s time to go back?
Thank you for the clip from Moscow 1980 games. Credit where credit is due. On this the USSR got it right. Folk dancing is awesome--evoking beauty, joy and uplift! Folk dances spring from the earth and express the heart and soul of a people.
this piece from the 2020 olympics was just a part of the picture- the opening of CERN, with the world leaders all in attendance in the bleachers, while the end of the world of humans was acted out below, contained the images of the rest of what is coming, the rise of AI, the women dancing in their native costumes and their deaths, and people being transported via railway in orange prison jumpsuits, being whipped, people attempting to climb up to the top of the all seeing eye, the rise of the deformed AI as people were dying all around, the mixing of the satanic beings with humans and on and on - if you can find that footage- it is very important for people to know that as well... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3746669/Human-sacrifice-ceremony-Geneva-s-CERN-laboratory-involving-cloaked-men-stabbing-woman-night-investigated-chiefs-world-famous-science-centre.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDeExBtGGU Uncut Occult ceremony at the Opening of World’s longest tunnel near CERN in Gotthard massif.+ sound - YouTube
There can be no doubt about the heavy hand of, if not the government directly, then at least the power-adjacent big-money elite, in every aspect of the embarrassing spectacle that the Olympic Games has become, and in particular the grotesque bacchanal into which the “opening ceremonies” have metastasized.
And the reason it’s so grotesque is it represents how the elites think we do (or should) see ourselves. Far from being a simple and dignified recognition of all that the athletes have done to get there, it is instead a crude and clumsy, Soviet-style, masturbatory propaganda extravaganza, conceived by a circle of jerks who gleefully fleeced the taxpayer to pay the outrageous cost of staging it and now want to rub their hapless subjects’ noses in it.
“ masturbatory propaganda extravaganza”
Right on!
From opening ceremonies to the Oscars, all unbearable since 2020. The New Normal?
The U.K. ceremony in 2012 was extremely unbearable- all that nhs nonsense with the dancing nurses….still, the evil ones do like to tell us what their plans are, don’t they?
For those who haven't seen it, it's quite creepy:
Predictive CV19 programming(?) at
2012 London Olympics Opening Ceremonies:
https://old.bitchute.com/video/X5cCG4Eh9Xal/
For those who haven't seen it, it's quite creepy:
Predictive CV19 programming(?) at
2012 London Olympics Opening Ceremonies:
https://old.bitchute.com/video/X5cCG4Eh9Xal/
I gave you a like for the "Eraserhead" hair and the name-joke on how New Yorkers talk.
"That's the way things come clear. All of a sudden. And then you realize how obvious they've been all along."
MADELEINE L'ENGLE
I stopped watching the Olympics in the 1980s
When they took Ben Johnson's Gold Medal away in 1988?
That's what did it for me.
But the Olympics were fun when I was a kid, like Christmas and the Moon Landings were fun.
Bingo! You and I may be similar ages. I recall the disgust I felt, looking down at my 2 wee ones listening to Ben's humiliation.
But up till then? Yes, Christmas and moon landings WERE fun!
Me too…so long ago that I can’t remember when I last watched an Olympics, or any televised sorting event!
EDIT: The comment is about my internal process.. After I typed it, I realized that maybe you were not even saying those folk Soviet dances were anything amazing. I want to make sure I clarity, and emphasize the love!!! xoxoxoxo
Celia, for the sake of intellectual integrity, I have to disappoint you on the folk dances in the Soviet culture. :-) They were completely robbed of soul comparing to the REAL folk dances, painfully so, I was just complaining to someone about that, about how pissed I feel that they stole the truth from me. I am really, really pissed off about that, actually (about what they did to music during my childhood). When I was growing up, "folk music" was the official thing, all the TV channels (all two of them) were broadcasting it, and the technical skills were there without a doubt, and "costumes," but not the soul. They were fake as f*ck. As child, I felt it, I didn't know why I felt it, everybody just yawned at them, but nobody I know of gave it any thought why. It was just considered lame, boring, but also inevitable because the television broadcast "folk" music, and it was ubiquitous, boring, not interesting, and ubiquitous. I think I am actually quite traumatized by the lie. When I discovered real folk music, or at least as close to it as it can be aftr centuries of theological terrorism, I wanted to cry. it was so real....
I love you. You know I am saying it with love and respect, I just felt a lot of emotion when you posted it, and remembered all the horror of soulless fake music that was eating at my truth as a child. The manipulators know how to manipulate!!!
Tessa I want to AGREE with you by way of also adding that I sit sometimes and watch folk dances to see if I can find even one I would wish to share. Except for a few of the Kurds in Iran, I can find almost no wolf dance that does not feel utterly fake and sort of created by some NGO. I think we are on the same page. My only quibble was that I never wrote those folk dancers were good, only that I was curious how ethnic national dances were encouraged by the Soviet Union at that time. Maybe you can speak to that. It's amazing you grew up there. Where you frightened of Brezhnev on the TV? What do you remember?
Yes, I think I misunderstood you about the Soviet dances you posted, thank you for clarifying what you meant! I actually feel good about being able to bring something up, talk it out with love and with a desire to actually understand wha the other person feels and why, and have a better clarity about the world from it.
"Friendship of peoples" was the theme, the fifteen republics, the Russian folk headdresses, the many braids of the women from the Central Asian cultures, and so on.Interestingly, on the ground, people from different republics really liked each other a lot more than now, today's animosities were created in a top-down manner, for geopolitical shifts, as it usually goes. But of course, I have only seen it how it expressed itself in Russia, and Russia was a dominant republic. I don't know how somebody in a small village in Tajikistan felt, and cannot speak to that.
I feel nothing about the leaders of the late Soviet Union. My memory is, they were all senile, nobody took them seriously by the time I was around. There were senile jokes about them, kinder jokes than the ones about Biden but jokes none the less. I heard Brezhnev was the least corrupt out of all of them (living modestly, more or less), but I really don't know if that opinion was based in facts or in wishful thinking.
Tessa, I went back and re-read it. When I need to express that I have been mid-read, or misunderstood, I get really stubborn. But please humor me. You perceived praise for the actual dances when there was none.
Tessa, I was not at all saying a thing about the quality of the dances. I was saying:
1. Wow, how bizarre, that this kind of ethnic nationalism was placed on display.
2. That I have a thing for folk dances in general.
3. That one can feel nostalgic for the Cold War in ways that feel shameful.
I was definitely not focusing on these as dances. Because when I do that it's different. I am certain you are 100% right, how fake they felt then, how fake they are. I was only really trying to contrast with Paris, yesterday.
I'll go back and see if maybeI am wrong, and came across as exulting about the dances.You never have to worry or apologize for correcting me Tessa. but in this instance, I feel I want to go back and see if I said anything suggesting I thought these were GOOD dances?
The most important thing here is that you have love, and I have love, and I love you also for how we can go into each other's "hot zones" and know that it is all for the sake of understanding, and do it gracefully (which is how I think human being are meant to function). That is one of the reasons I love and appreciate you,, you have integrity and passion!
Actually after I posted my comment, as an internal reaction to the video of the dances (that brought back my childhood), I asked myself, "Wait, did Celia actually praise the dances?" I re-read it, was not sure you did, and added the edit, your comments didn't show up here when I added the edit.
We need to do a whole conversation of the Soviet culture, it would be so interesting!
xoxoxo
Thank You, Sister Tessa-was-there...
;-}
Without God, it seems we always end up here—nihilism, self-destruction, worshipping death. We are indeed fallen creatures in need of our true Creator to redeem us from this fallen pattern.
And even though my life was miserable in 1980, I too feel this deeply now:
“That Strange Nostalgia One Can Have For Times That Were By No Means Good, But Still, Less Confusing Than Today's World.”
This is more than removal of the creator. These are majik ceremonies that gain power by a large audience. Lucifer and later Ahriman were worshipped. But both these demons have been supplanted, Hell is run by Sorath for now.
For me, your first paragraph nails it. This is the inevitable outcome of a world that doesn't pay homage to The Creator. Indeed, it may have us idealizing a better time that may never have existed.
Right on again Celia! Boris Johnson, dancing nurses, child sacrifice and Greta Thunberg? My imagination just took off.
Very sad story but revealing none the less. And considering most Americans had no clue about what was behind the Soviet invasion (think CIA tool Osama Bin Ladin - AKA Tim Osman), the entire boycott was senseless and didn’t do a damn thing except deprive some world class athletes of achieving their dreams. And their presence in Moscow might have even improved relations in a very shaky uncertain time.
"That Strange Nostalgia One Can Have For Times That Were By No Means Good, But Still, Less Confusing Than Today's World"
As far as I'm concerned, that's it exactly. I remember a youth full of angst that now seems golden. People and places and events that exist only in memory of a few in my orbit, or even in mine alone.
There's a channel on YouTube called Dave Volsky's Back Door. He posts old NFL (and some other pro sports) games as they were broadcast, with commercials, mostly from the 70s and 80s. I no longer have any interest in viewing pro sports at all. But I have several times found it fascinating to watch old games as if they were playing out live. To watch old commercials made before men and women were trained by thought police to despise themselves, each in their own way. In some cases, I know with virtual certainty that I was clinging to the screen 40+ years ago, desperate to see my team move on in the playoffs.
I would watch that too. Maybe I will, thank you.
Barcelona 1992
Maybe there's another, better link than this:
https://bartoll.se/2021/12/olympic-ceremony-1992-coronavirus-programming/
The little bit I saw (over my shoulder from my seat at the bar) of whatever went on yesterday In Paris that was part of the “opening ceremonies” was so creepy, so repulsive I just don’t have words for it. France and French culture has a lot to offer but that spectacle was a national embarrassment.
I did think that the athletes sailing up the Seine is decorated boats was pretty cool, although the dinghies they gave Gabon and some of the other countries looked like they would have been more at home during the Mariel boat lift…
The one that I saw that stood out was the looong boat stuffed with Italians in the front and their alphabetic neighbors from Jamaica enthusiastically filling out the rest. Now that’s a party…
Bonus question:
How many of North Korea’s finest heroes are going to stay behind when it’s time to go back?
None, unless they hate their families who are, of course, held hostage.
However, Israeli Mossad are sabotaging infrastructure in France and blaming Iran.
Thank you for the clip from Moscow 1980 games. Credit where credit is due. On this the USSR got it right. Folk dancing is awesome--evoking beauty, joy and uplift! Folk dances spring from the earth and express the heart and soul of a people.
Celia, when trying to watch some of these videos, youtube has shut them down. Thought you should know.
That video about the 2012 Olympic ceremony vs. 2020 pandemic scenes is definitely food for thought.
here is the utube link to the opening of CERN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDeExBtGGU
this piece from the 2020 olympics was just a part of the picture- the opening of CERN, with the world leaders all in attendance in the bleachers, while the end of the world of humans was acted out below, contained the images of the rest of what is coming, the rise of AI, the women dancing in their native costumes and their deaths, and people being transported via railway in orange prison jumpsuits, being whipped, people attempting to climb up to the top of the all seeing eye, the rise of the deformed AI as people were dying all around, the mixing of the satanic beings with humans and on and on - if you can find that footage- it is very important for people to know that as well... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3746669/Human-sacrifice-ceremony-Geneva-s-CERN-laboratory-involving-cloaked-men-stabbing-woman-night-investigated-chiefs-world-famous-science-centre.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDeExBtGGU Uncut Occult ceremony at the Opening of World’s longest tunnel near CERN in Gotthard massif.+ sound - YouTube