I 100% reject the notion, promoted by these doctors, that high LDL is a pathology—I believe cholesterol is as unjustly demonized as "retroviruses," to cite but one example. Cholesterol is one of our best friends, fat is the source of so much healing, it's downright stunning. The war on fat was murder 101. The war on cholesterol. The war on eggs. Getting people to consume PLASTIC instead of butter. I can think of few developments more damaging and diabolical.
But the the wow factor is this interview is that this MD team lowered LDL with Oreos which were more effective than statins. So maybe this is the first true death knell to statins, from established medicine? Don't care much what established medicine says, People are helping themselves through trial and error with food. Non poisoned food. Here's the Oreo thing. The MDs are pretty boring—a requirement and change induced at Med School? Talking Doctor-Boring?
Hi Celia, my wife had always been telling me about STATINS and cholesterol and it didn't really matter to me until it became unavoidable that my doctors were very much interested in getting me to take them. That's when I still went to western doctors. That is essentially all they cared about or talked about even though my "numbers" were in the healthy range. They would say the numbers are "on the high side of normal", i.e., so let's get prepared to make you take STATINS.
So, I went over to Amazon and ordered three books back in 2018:
- Fat and Cholesterol Don't Cause Heart Attacks and Statins are Not the Solution (2016 Rosch, Harcombe, et al)
- The Dark Side of Statins: Plus: The Wonder of Cholesterol (2017 Graveline MD, Duane)
- The Truth About Statins: Risks and Alternatives to Cholesterol-Lowering Drugs (2012 Roberts MD, Barbara)
I read those books and it became apparent that Statins are poison and that's no fringe conspiracy theory. Also, the myth here, is that cholesterol has any correlation to heart disease or that lowering LDL (aka "the bad") will do anything good for anyone.
That second book, The Dark Side of Statins, is the best I think. IIRC, it will lead you to one or more websites that have lots of related information. If anyone wants to read a single book on it, that'd be the one that I recommend but, come to find out, there are many such books out there now.
Long before the murderous campaign to poison the planet with mRNA gene therapy, I was well aware of how western doctors (and nurse practitioners, etc.) will happily lead you to iatrogenic death. If after covid, people don't know now, what in hell is it going to take??
The liver manufacturers cholesterol, it is essential just like essential fats, proteins, amino acids. Carbs are not essential, only for diseases. Lower cholesterol via statins = higher Alzheimer's/Dementia. Side effects of statins include ED, no worries there is a drug for that/Viagra. Pfizer's #2 selling drug.
Agree! Patients get fear mongered to believe if they don’t take them, they will die. They don’t want to risk having a heart attack so they take them, but according to Stephanie Seneff, statins are very dangerous. Many of my clients and dad take statins. Every one of them now have diabetes and are now on diabetes medication. Coincidence? I don’t think so. One of the many side effects of statins. Thank you for the sharing the names of these books. I will check them out.
“Cholesterol is one of our best friends, fat is the source of so much healing, it's downright stunning. The war on fat was murder 101. The war on cholesterol. The war on eggs. Getting people to consume PLASTIC instead of butter. I can think of few developments more damaging and diabolical.”
I agree. I came to this conclusion after discovering Stephanie Seneff some years ago when I was educating myself on “vaccines”, glyphosates and statins. I watched countless hours of her videos and everything she said made a lot of sense to me. She spoke so much about cholesterol and how important it is to the heart and brain function and that statins were causing so many problems. She is a wealth of information.
just read that article too and gave about the same answer. Thank you for being a true doctor. Not a pill and needle pusher! I think most docs are just trying to make a good income.
My chiropractor told me the important factor re cholesterol is the ratio between the two types. I’ve never had my cholesterol tested (Im 77 in good health all around). All the preventive tests recommended by the medical establishment IMO are traps. I’ve only ever had one mammogram just for my own curiosity. I stopped taking vitamins because they mostly seemed to be sourced from China and personally I don’t trust anything from China. Friends had their apt in NY sheet rocked with Chinese product and their two kids who were doing excellent work in school began failing and got seriously ill, all because of moldy Sheetrock.
Also your assessment of mental health providers … my issues have always been emotional/psychological due to a traumatic upbringing/home life. I’ve found therapists psychologists and psychiatrists to be narcissistic lacking in insight and ability to identify with my suffering. In other words worse than useless more like harmful.
In elementary school the school therapist told my parents I was destined to be “nothing much” because I was acting out in school.
In one instance the therapist I tried became outraged after I confronted him for not letting me know He was going on vacation, I only found out when I appeared at his office for an appt. After he reacted like such an asshole I stopped that and later found out he’d taken a job as head of the psychology dept at a Maine college. Maine always appoints idiots and tossers to important positions, it appears so do elite institutions.
Statins, which block the body's ability to make all the cholesterol that it requires (which it can without having to eat it) are of course stupid and harmful. They are also ineffective as the inflammation and damage of saturated fat and oxidised cholesterol (and of course trans fat in marg) is still being done to your body if you are still eating it.
For what it's worth. As an experiment, I ate almost nothing but fast food burgers for 6 months at McDonald's and Carl's Jr. My cholesterol dropped from 310 to 220. Imagine that.
Flaxseed oil should be considered in a different light from most other seed-oils, but it tastes funny and needs to be preserved, including against light.
"Flaxseed oil comes from the seed of the flax plant. It contains 50 to 60% omega-3 fatty acids in the form of alpha-linolenic acid (ALA). That is more than is contained in fish oil. But the body is not very efficient at converting ALA into the omega-3 fatty acids found in fish oils."
I think soy only got approved for human consumption in the 50s. Before there was only fermented soy in far eastern food I think. Tried it, not a fan. Only using coconut, olive oil, and butter. Great cheese fan although been a bit on the edge with milk since birth. Mom had to give me buttermilk (which I detest now)
Yes, I also had a restricted diet. Only skim milk for this baby. And my son...Only goat milk.
Goat milk is best for human intestines. The molecules are smaller and pass through the intestinal wall without causing damage. Oh course, mother's milk is best of she is eating unaltered foods. Back in the day, breastfeeding was only for the low class, though.
When my babies got old enough for me to get a break now and then, I didn't like "pumping" (for the babysitter) because it altered my milk production too much, (and it's quality) so I used raw goat milk. Worked fine enough. But they were ON me when I got home. I was so "low class" that I breastfed my youngest for 4 years! ;-)
:-) Right you are. By the time I had my son it was 'fashionable', high class and 'New Age-y' to do the right thing, though letting the child breastfeed past a year(?) was gossiped about.
I was sorry my son weaned his own self at about six months old. I wanted that comfortable high that comes with giving to your baby.
Ha, explains the allergy, I'm thinking. Though I don't know.
Today it's fashionable to schedule C-sections. Can you believe that? At a salon I was using, all the young women were scheduling their babies' births for convenience or to happen on a special day. Crazy to my mind, that is.
6 months? They don't even get any more than their "milk teeth" until they're 5. But each baby is different. My oldest lost interest at 3 years, youngest never did;-)
yes I got mother's milk for the first few months, then I got formula. To my surprise talking about it recently my dad, almost 90, remembered the brand of formula I got 66 years ago LOL.
You might research raw milk. I don't know personally, but have read that people that can't drink store milk, can usually drink raw milk as the pasteurization process changes the chemistry of the milk.
if I could buy it that close I would. It reminds of commercials for milk we had back in Belgium as a kid, where people would drink it and then have a white moustache - that can only happen with fresh, natural milk. Homogenized and sterilized like it is now in Belgium does not do that. They have the cartons with over-heated milk that does not even need to be cooled before opening! when I came here and tasted the pasteurized milk I went hmmmmm, it was already so much better!
It is so wrong of them to forbid it but well, as it is and you only need some, I may have a suggestion, forgive me when I come up with a wrong idea you don't like.
If you like yogurt, you can make yogurt out of it, it stays well for a long period of time, depending on the culture you use, up to several weeks. (the least we have, is two weeks), we usually get 10 liters and make 2 liters yogurt and two small cheeses. Nice with cheesemaking: the curd that does not fit in the mold, can be used as cottage cheese. Leave the whey for another day and cook it again but now warmer, not boiling, until you see it getting tiny flocks: Here you have your bonus: ricotta. The whey that is then left, can be used as a drink, as a base for soups, in the garden as fertiliser (on the compost heap is also possible) or use it against mildew: very effective. I realise this is only nice having a garden but if you have: use it ;-) .
60 miles is even then maybe too far, I can imagine but who knows, maybe you know more people who like it and you buy together.
until 4 years ago I made yoghourt. Then I got a rash, on doctors advice I stopped milk products, and when I finally found out what caused the rash (liquid soap-shampoo) Igot out of the habit. But your suggestions might make me start again! Thanks for the tips, never tried making cheese but saw on the Azeri blog Kand Hajati how they do it. I also got 2 milk loving cats and a yoghourt loving dog ! I am going to hear around if some local farmer has any milk ! Thanks MaritB !
😕 Would they let you buy a little bit from them? I've been thinking about getting some for a recipe here and there, seems to be legal here, but I don't like milk, so I'm afraid it would be a huge waste of limited funds.
I watched numerous people testifying (at a state senate hearing where they were attempting to ban all raw milk products) that raw dairy saved their lives. It IS best. And if you can get it (and afford it) it should be your primary source of dairy, if dairy is something you eat. Those cows are WONDERFUL!
We only drink raw milk or use it to make cheese, yogurt, butter etc. My experience with people who want to try raw milk despite not being able to drink store milk, is exactly what you say: they can drink it.
yes cotton is a very dirty crop. Unfortunately I don't do very well with chemical fabrics, so I have to search for decent cotton to wear. And I live in cotton country... love to see it in seed though. Snow on a stem!
Still, the qualities of the oil the plants will produce could have been altered by altering the genetic structure of the plant. It is possible to make the resulting oil even more toxic than it already was. For crying out loud, they're actually making cows that produce HUMAN milk now;-)
The flesh of plant seeds still produces plant oils. And plant oils have far fewer electrons (per fatty acid molecule) than any animal fat does. Some plant oils are more stable than others, whether it's extracted from the nut inside of the seed, or the flesh. The more "saturated" the more stable, due to the high number of electrons in each molecule. More electrons make the fat harder to degrade or transform into a "transfat." Trans-fats are simply fatty acid molecules that are very low in electrons, which makes them very fragile and vulnerable to further destruction and loss of even more electrons. This is why "unsaturated" plant oils become rancid so quickly after extraction. Consuming low electron fatty acids releases these "free radicals" into our systems which injure our tissues/cells/DNA.
Whether it comes from the plant flesh or the nut inside of it, what actually matters, is how stable the oil is, i.e., the number of electrons each molecule carries. The less electrons, (unsaturated) the more fragile, and the faster the oil becomes a "free radical" when exposed to heat, light, and other assaults, such as chemical breakdown, which INCLUDES the digestive process when exposed to our bile salts and pepsin in the gut.
These fragile (low electron) fatty acid molecules are "hungry" to replace these missing electrons. When you breakdown an unstable fat and it circulates in your bloodstream, it WILL scavenge these missing electrons from your own cells, and even from your DNA, causing inflammation and even cancers. This is where the term "free radicals" (which come from "transfats") came from. Plant oils (specifically unsaturated plant oils) are far less stable than "saturated" animal fats, because animal fats have far more electrons per fatty acid molecule than ANY plant oil. But coconuts are special, and their oil is considered "saturated" - meaning coconut oil has more electrons per fatty-acid molecule than just about any other plant oil. It's not as many electrons as are found in animal fats, but still, it's more than other plant oils I am aware of.
The human body is constantly suffering from DNA and mitochondrial damage. When we consume saturated fats, we get access to the excess electrons available from these, which HEALS this damage. This is because WE (our tissues and DNA) are now "scavenging" the excess electrons we need from the "saturated" fat we're consuming. This appears to be why people who go "carnivore" (and start eating lots of saturated fats, while eliminating all plants and their oils) report immediate relief from inflammation, and also complete reversal of many degenerative diseases (previously thought to be incurable). I can personally attest to this myself, as I was imminently headed for a wheelchair (debilitating arthritis) before I turned to carnivore, which gave me immediate relief from the inflammation, and is swiftly reversing the joint damage.
Coconut oil still doesn't have as many electrons per molecule as animal fats have, but it appears to be the safest plant oil available, due to it's high number of electrons per fat molecule. Again, the issue here is not whether the oil was extracted from the flesh around the seed, but how "saturated" the oil is WITH EXTRA ELECTRONS.
Although we've been lied to endlessly about "saturated" fats, it's now been proven that saturated fats do NOT injure the heart or clog arteries, and that they are actually best for our bodies. Indeed, many carnivores have reversed their heart disease by eating only saturated fats, and eliminating all plants from their diets. And this makes sense, since the extra electrons available with saturated fats are ABSOLUTELY needed to repair DNA and tissue damage.
All of that said, all I really know for certain (with my own eyes) is that food which immediately (and massively) improves my health, and which CONTINUES to improve my health, is the food I want to go on eating. And the foods which caused me agonizing inflammation while progressively destroying my tissues, are NOT interesting to me anymore, no matter how good they taste, and no matter how many times the FDA tries to tell me I will die if I refuse to eat them.
I almost lost my job as a holistic nutritionist in a health food store for suggesting that flax oil can be problematic and do not provide the essential phospholipid natural omega3 forms.
Exactly - and the inefficiency results in byproducts that are inflammatory. I saw this in children especially, because they are the least able to convert it. It was also notorious for causing diarrhea. And it goes rancid every quickly. When you try to get the omega3 by eating ground flax seeds you get irritating saponins. I think flax is best left for seed-eating birds. Even squirrels around here won't eat them.
I actually just bought some from my food coop though because one of my dogs loves it and is so picky that he gets skinny. So I still use it for that LOL
It didn't occur to me that flax would have saponins!
I'm so sorry to hear this, you wouldn't expect that of a health food store, great you spoke out!
I only use flax oil to make oil paints, hahahaha! Sure I'm not going to eat it.
Very very very sometimes I take a little walnut oil, pressed from our own walnuts, usually also for paints but I taste a bit of it as well as I like it. Pure flax oil tastes awful by the way (tried it, of course, try the taste of everything that is not as much poison instantly as fox glove or something). Eat the walnuts, press some for oil to make paint, use the green hulls to make inks and that is it.
YES!!! I read the Weston Price book years ago...It is a little difficult getting decent dairy and meat products in my present situation. I hope to change that soon! Thanks for this....
The prices are huge but I still believe that eating healthy and organic with grass fed proteins and raw dairy will save you on the doctor bills, hospital bills and insurance premiums as you get older.
I live in Cleveland, home of Weston Price. He practiced there, truly a great man. There is no history of him in any fashion? He was the first President of the equivilaent to American Dental Association back then. He was fired do to his holistic views.
Yes, yes, yes! For example, with soy, Americans look at it like a full meal (soy hot dogs or burgers) but Asians use it as more of a condiment like in miso soup.
I have 70 olive trees on my one hectare in Portugal and make my own olive oil each year, getting between 30-80 litres depending on the harvest and pruning regimen.
I rarely eat out anymore because I don't want a slip up of seed oil ingestion. I make all meals from scratch and most meals use butter. Butter is delicious and I never feel sick after eating it as opposed to eating out and not feeling well afterward. Cooking is fun, tasty, and creative. I love feeding my friends and family and feel this is how it's supposed to be. Know what you are cooking with and how to cook it properly. Eating out is expensive not only monetarily but also health wise.
I stopped using grape seed after watching\reading one of Dr. Joseph Mercola's posts on Substack. He has a podcast channel on youtube. I use no seed oils but use beef dripping or butter for frying. As I live (exist) in Ireland, the olive oil sold here is subject to the Italian, French, Spanish etc. purity laws and as such is of acceptable quality - particularly in the case of extra virgin olive oil. As a committed carnivore I eat minimal carbs and some veg - occasionally. I vill not eat ze bugs!!!
I stopped eating meat 5 years Ago. It took me few tries, but here I am, meat Free. My decision was based on the horrible suffering of the animals, so we can be satisfied. Then I realized a spiritual healing was taking place. I remember thinking, how do I justify this treatment of animals for me? I can not. Animals feel pain, experience loss of their own. If one goes back far enough, what we have left, of ancient texts, we were originally told not to eat meat, they have been traumatized, their bodies are filled with pain, fear, then you eat that . Now some say do grain fed, as like the Amish, they have a very "humane" way of killing the animal, true, it is better on the end result of killing the animal, but I still can not do it.
It's why we started raising our own animals for meat, poultry, eggs and milk. I know exactly what I eat, how they lived and died because we do everything ourselves. It taught me a deep appreciation for the food and everything involved.
Yes, you are ahead of the game. In US an Amish farmer, Miller Farms, got persecuted by federal government for his farm, meats and dairy, all organic, as one can be at this stage. He eventually won, after fines, arrests etc. A lot of people got behind him, his farms now are member only, was before and they still persecuted. Now it is a fight on all sides, on just the poisons in all foods. We are in a losing fight, unless all comes down.
As a city person, I am very grateful for the farmers markets where local small (mostly organic) farmers share their products. An important option to DIY.
tried vegetarian several times, after the mad cow disease in Europe stopped eating red meat, unless I can find bison. Indeed, the way food animals are raised is disgusting. If we could go back 60, 70 years, where small farms were still operating in Europe (probably already gone by then here in US), where each farmer had enough animals to feed the land, it was a closed circle - healthy animals, no chemicals on the land. But then came Big and messed it all up for everyone, and now Europe is trying to get rid of the farmers in favor of chemicals (and bugs)
Thank you for your compassion-in-action. I feel the exact same way that you do re: animal welfare. I wish more people did. Factory farming is an abomination.
How to get manufactured oils from soy, corn, cotton seed, and especially partially hydrogenated trans fats.
Crush seeds, extract with hexane
filter to remove lecithin and other "particulates". Sell lecithin.
Place in a vacuum and heat to 250 C, blow with nitrogen to strip vit A, vit E, antioxidant phenolics, Phytosterols, Flavonoids.... leaving high molecular weight triglycerides. Sell stripped vitamins.
Decolorize with charcoal, removing remaining antioxidants.
Partially hydrogenate with hydrogen and Nickel at high pressure., making many different unnatural trans isomers
The fact is, as much as I personally dislike it, we must take lives in order to survive. That is the way the biological world is designed in order to sustain itself.
If we want health there is a basic principle that must be followed with regard to food: We must obey our archetypal genetic design and eat what we are designed to eat.
If you try to do that in the wild, naked and without fire and tools (our archetypal setting), you would not survive without eating animals.
What strikes me that in the examples given, I see people proudly announcing their weight loss and lower BP.
I realise I belong to a small minority, but I need to gain weight! I am one of those people who need to eat to maintain their weight, and, if possible, increase it.
Already having a low BP (runs in the family), I don’t need to bring it down.
I do not use seed oils but extra vergine olive oil from a small organic olive grower in Italy.
It would be nice to have my group included in advice on food.
I’m in that group too. I just ignore the weight loss issues and focus on the healthy food and lifestyle choices. Organic as much as possible - the widespread use of glyphosate is terrifying. Local small farms as much as possible for trusted sources - I don’t eat meat but do eat eggs and love knowing their source and recent gathering. I haven’t eaten sugar for about 5 years - likely the most important change. We never have to worry about “calories” - how fortunate! Walk and exercise because I want my body to be functioning well.
How nice to ‘meet’ someone else with the same ‘issue’. I’ve always eaten healthy food, never sugar. Much like you Jaqueline, food wise. I’ve always been a walker, too.
And yes. Never have been worried about calories. The more I’d eat, like Christmas dinners, the faster my metabolism worked.
I was doing well at the beginning of lockdown, but I had to start shopping just at Publix because of the Apeel hidden everywhere lately. It’s made me loose weight & I didn’t know why everything was making me nauseous. Apeel coating!
Whole Foods employee are fed a bunch of word salad to repeat to customers when asked about Apeel. You can tell when the vegetables don’t break down normally
Thanks. I have an unusual story. Had neglect for years by insurance dictated doctors. Found an integrative medicine doctor who is helping me have some quality of life. I moved from upstate New York to Florida just before lockdown and was ( unexpectedly and happily) married March 2, so my honeymoon was lockdown. I tried arranging a church wedding, went to counseling and everything. Still haven’t done that, our anniversary is coming up. Very thankful to have a supportive husband and a doctor outside the system.
Oh my goodness, thank heaven you finally found that doctor who is really helping you. I do hope you will be feeling well enough to get that church wedding one day. 🙏💙
An excellent Body Of Work to consider is that of Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD [ http://doctor-natasha.com/ ] who wrote a book called Vegetarianism Explained [ https://bookshop.org/a/93797/9780954852061 ]. She is a frequent speaker at Weston A Price conferences and is best known for her protocol to turn around autism symptoms and other conditions of modern childhood. [
https://bookshop.org/a/93797/9780954852023 ]. She is as intelligent and authentic as they come. She recommends a clean, ancestral diet that eliminates all disaccharides. It is high in animal fats and proteins. I think the main difference between this and 'carnivore' is her addition of cooked vegetables and fruits (like berries) and even honey can be introduced at later stages, after the GI tract is healed. I should add, I think the reason people can no longer digest all sorts of plant material, is because toxins have destroyed the GI lining. Oneone hand, 'carnivore' and 'GAPS' and other diets high in animal fat, protein and minerals DO turn around conditions like depression, seizure disorders and all sorts of things. On the other hand, we should consider the idea that we should be able to tolerate all foods that our ancestors ate. If we can no longer do this, our body burden of toxins and other stressors has reached its human limits.
Well now. I guess I am one of those horrible plant-based people, and that includes NO SOS (Sugar, oil, Salt ;-) ). Theory aside, it worked for me, and it is working for the hundreds of folks, I see making the switch. When I did in early 2015, within six months all my biomarkers were normal again and just to be sure, I changed to a Lifestyle Medicine trained physician, who could at least discuss my lifestyle changes intelligently. More recently, I have become interested in a new test for the cardiometabolic system, the MCG, which gives us a comprehensive model of the function of the entire system with 168 variables in 22 gradations of severity. It is cheaper than the co-pay on an Angiogram, but offers 95% accuracy vs 37% accuracy. With this test, you could compare the results of different diets, if you needed that. You could see the difference in weeks. I have written about it here: https://www.americaoutloud.news/the-power-of-whole-foods-against-cardiovascular-disease/
Undoubtedly, there are times when a change of diet can help break through certain plateaus. But long term, the low carb diets undermine health. With MCG we now have a simple test where you can see the differences and people can stop arguing, for we now have facts. The Weston Price approach may be better than SAD, Standard American Diet, but that is no major feat. It cannot be shown to work.
You did not...just a bit of self-deprecating humor on my part. But: vegan or vegetarian are not nutrition. They are ethical concepts. Vegan being secular (animal welfare/environment), and vegetarian religious (Hindu, Buddhist). Whole Foods Plant-Based (T. Colin Campbell) is proper plant based nutrition, and includes NO SOS, and B12 and D3 supplementation. During the Covid mania, research was published in BMJ showing 73% reduced risk of "moderate to severe" covid for plantbased people, still 59% reduced risk for pescetarisns and a 20% increase in risk for the high fat/ low carb diets. (As presented by Brooke Goldner, MD.):
everyone is different. I do not do well on all veggies, and I do not want to do all meat, either. Some descend from farmers and others descend from hunters I guess! thanks for the link, will check it outl One thing is for sure though - land used for feeding vegetarians can feed more than land used for feeding meat. eaters.
Ingrid I agree with you. I have seen a pattern on social media where someone tries a diet or lifestyle and gets astounding results and then they think everyone has the same biochemistry and that everyone will do as great as they did and should all follow suit.
Personally, I do fine on vegan but it's too difficult to stick to. As I started to prepare homecooked food for my dogs, and reading the functional medicine perspective, I started accepting that I could eat meat again. I tried keto but after 3 months felt terrible with cramping in my calves that would only stop with more carbs. Prior to that on a trip to Central America I only ate meat for a week and by the end I was craving salad so bad that I had one against my better judgement and got the runs from the water it was washed with.
My goals are to achieve a healthy weight and get rid of those "bitch" mood swings or cravings. I think that is more related to avoiding glucose spikes - which a meat based diet does well - than eating just meat. If you read the glucose goddess books you can also achieve that by changing the order of your food intake to greens, protein and fats and then the carbs. That puts me on an even keel I do best with lower carb but focused on greens, meats and berries. The meats have to be pasture raised or wild caught because it's more humane and have a healthier fatty acid profile. That being said, it seems that some people have allergies to lectins and other things in greens that cause all kinds of health problems. So there truly isn't one diet that is best for us all.
EXCEPT for the subject of this article - avoiding seed oils and ultra processed foods. THAT is the universal food recommendation as far as I'm concerned. Beyond that it's individual constitution and heritage.
I do think it's a service to show people who may have all sorts of allergies that they might do better eating all meat - with the caveat that it is humanely raised and pasture fed. I would add dairy products to that caveat as well - pasture fed dairy has a better fatty acid profile than regular. And if you can get pasture raised dairy from A2 cows all the better.
I think that everyone has an individual constitution and the human carnivores are a minority. Just look at our teeth - they aren't like dog's teeth. They are omnivore teeth - some teeth for ripping and more flat molars for chewing plant foods.
Everyone can become more healthy by getting rid of ultra processed foods and seed oils. I can stick with that one!
I truly appreciate your posts but this one, you do exactly what you accuse others of, concerning aggressive, not kind language. Maybe you do it on purpose to mirror, I also noticed way aggressive language from many vegans so I really get you. I hope that is the reason of you language, to mirror, let people feel. Otherwise you just have shoved many in the wrong box, like many Indian people who live vegetarian diets for generations..
I'm not going to throw my past in the public space but want to share this: I've been a victim of extreme abuse during childhood, by many people, not one parent or a nasty neighbour; we talk about loads of neighbours including their children who cut my face open, kicked me everywhere where they could, left me for dead in the gutter after kicking me KO, resulting in ending up in a wheelchair, as a kid. Even then it wasn't over. If I would judge people after their diets, I would say: all carnivores and vegans are horrible, aggressive and almost insane people. I realise they are not, those people who did this were, no matter their diets. If you are attacked because of your diet, you can get nasty, no matter your diet, can't you? I really think you are "losing" the group you address with "plant based friends", you come with really good arguments and suddenly you call them unhealthy, aggressive and so on, that is how it is read at least.
Please don't do that, you can make your otherwise good point very well without.
We press our own olive oil, mainly use homemade ghee and if we eat soy: it is made from our own soybeans , fermented by us (as we ferment more beans and grains) and made into tofu, soysauce and tempeh. Just like we make our own cheese, yogurt, butter (from raw milk from neighbouring cows), mustard, mayonnaise from eggs from the chickens next door, strutting around in our garden as well; our only neighbours, living a hundred meters from us and all things we eat often or less often; we hardly eat soy, bread, pasta etc but if: homemade. We eat only what we can make ourselves from pure, natural products. Most of those grow in our garden and we are happy we got this possibility. No herbicides and pesticides used by us or in our area, it is even forbidden where we live and our bees proof nobody secretly uses it, they are monitored by a university and every year they take 2 or three to see how healthy they are, if there are traces of poison, illnesses etc.
We don't eat meat, I can't eat it even if I would want to. As I don't recognise the stuff as I'm the whatever generation eating like this, I sometimes ingest something by accident and I get seriously ill, like a food poisoning. Depending on how much it was, I can even need a doctor, like after eating lard, without knowing it. We noticed it short after dinner something was wrong but they had assured us it was vegetarian. the doctor asked where we ate and he said: they always put lard in their food and think it is still vegetarian. Later we went back, to ask, they confirmed this. Therefore it couldn't be a psychological effect, what someone here once assumed, besides the fact that you don't get high fever, shaking, diarrhea from psychological effects, vomiting yes but the other stuff and more of that: no. If we would eat meat, we would do like what most around us do: eat it only so now and then and from your own or neighbouring animals. That is in our near village and all around it normal; we know what we eat and don't over consume.
I really really agree with you on all frustrations about the war on eggs, cholesterol and even meat although I would never want to kill someone for his meat but that is my point of view which is not the one and only truth or the best. Even I get upset about demonising carnivores and stand up for them so please, don't get cross with me now ;-)
LINK BELOW On OREO CHOLESTEROL STUDY:
I 100% reject the notion, promoted by these doctors, that high LDL is a pathology—I believe cholesterol is as unjustly demonized as "retroviruses," to cite but one example. Cholesterol is one of our best friends, fat is the source of so much healing, it's downright stunning. The war on fat was murder 101. The war on cholesterol. The war on eggs. Getting people to consume PLASTIC instead of butter. I can think of few developments more damaging and diabolical.
But the the wow factor is this interview is that this MD team lowered LDL with Oreos which were more effective than statins. So maybe this is the first true death knell to statins, from established medicine? Don't care much what established medicine says, People are helping themselves through trial and error with food. Non poisoned food. Here's the Oreo thing. The MDs are pretty boring—a requirement and change induced at Med School? Talking Doctor-Boring?
(Not Dr. Berry.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVnz9Mi8t1s
Hi Celia, my wife had always been telling me about STATINS and cholesterol and it didn't really matter to me until it became unavoidable that my doctors were very much interested in getting me to take them. That's when I still went to western doctors. That is essentially all they cared about or talked about even though my "numbers" were in the healthy range. They would say the numbers are "on the high side of normal", i.e., so let's get prepared to make you take STATINS.
So, I went over to Amazon and ordered three books back in 2018:
- Fat and Cholesterol Don't Cause Heart Attacks and Statins are Not the Solution (2016 Rosch, Harcombe, et al)
- The Dark Side of Statins: Plus: The Wonder of Cholesterol (2017 Graveline MD, Duane)
- The Truth About Statins: Risks and Alternatives to Cholesterol-Lowering Drugs (2012 Roberts MD, Barbara)
I read those books and it became apparent that Statins are poison and that's no fringe conspiracy theory. Also, the myth here, is that cholesterol has any correlation to heart disease or that lowering LDL (aka "the bad") will do anything good for anyone.
That second book, The Dark Side of Statins, is the best I think. IIRC, it will lead you to one or more websites that have lots of related information. If anyone wants to read a single book on it, that'd be the one that I recommend but, come to find out, there are many such books out there now.
Long before the murderous campaign to poison the planet with mRNA gene therapy, I was well aware of how western doctors (and nurse practitioners, etc.) will happily lead you to iatrogenic death. If after covid, people don't know now, what in hell is it going to take??
Absolutely in full agreement. Thank you.
"A Statin Nation" by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick is also good.
His latest, The Clot Thickens, is also excellent, in spite of the cheesy title. 😁
Ha Ha Haa!!! Das Funny!!! 🤣😆
I'll add "Dead Doctors Don't Lie".
Yes I was about to
Mention that book. I get Malcolm’s newsletter email now for 4 years
Wonderful information
Also
“Lies my Doctor told me”
Dr Ken Berry
Great guy Dr. Kendrick.
The liver manufacturers cholesterol, it is essential just like essential fats, proteins, amino acids. Carbs are not essential, only for diseases. Lower cholesterol via statins = higher Alzheimer's/Dementia. Side effects of statins include ED, no worries there is a drug for that/Viagra. Pfizer's #2 selling drug.
Xingyi,
Agree! Patients get fear mongered to believe if they don’t take them, they will die. They don’t want to risk having a heart attack so they take them, but according to Stephanie Seneff, statins are very dangerous. Many of my clients and dad take statins. Every one of them now have diabetes and are now on diabetes medication. Coincidence? I don’t think so. One of the many side effects of statins. Thank you for the sharing the names of these books. I will check them out.
Thanks!
Dr Malcolm Kendricks work stopped me taking statins
“Cholesterol is one of our best friends, fat is the source of so much healing, it's downright stunning. The war on fat was murder 101. The war on cholesterol. The war on eggs. Getting people to consume PLASTIC instead of butter. I can think of few developments more damaging and diabolical.”
I agree. I came to this conclusion after discovering Stephanie Seneff some years ago when I was educating myself on “vaccines”, glyphosates and statins. I watched countless hours of her videos and everything she said made a lot of sense to me. She spoke so much about cholesterol and how important it is to the heart and brain function and that statins were causing so many problems. She is a wealth of information.
just read that article too and gave about the same answer. Thank you for being a true doctor. Not a pill and needle pusher! I think most docs are just trying to make a good income.
My chiropractor told me the important factor re cholesterol is the ratio between the two types. I’ve never had my cholesterol tested (Im 77 in good health all around). All the preventive tests recommended by the medical establishment IMO are traps. I’ve only ever had one mammogram just for my own curiosity. I stopped taking vitamins because they mostly seemed to be sourced from China and personally I don’t trust anything from China. Friends had their apt in NY sheet rocked with Chinese product and their two kids who were doing excellent work in school began failing and got seriously ill, all because of moldy Sheetrock.
Also your assessment of mental health providers … my issues have always been emotional/psychological due to a traumatic upbringing/home life. I’ve found therapists psychologists and psychiatrists to be narcissistic lacking in insight and ability to identify with my suffering. In other words worse than useless more like harmful.
In elementary school the school therapist told my parents I was destined to be “nothing much” because I was acting out in school.
In one instance the therapist I tried became outraged after I confronted him for not letting me know He was going on vacation, I only found out when I appeared at his office for an appt. After he reacted like such an asshole I stopped that and later found out he’d taken a job as head of the psychology dept at a Maine college. Maine always appoints idiots and tossers to important positions, it appears so do elite institutions.
Most mental health providers are mentally ill.
Statins, which block the body's ability to make all the cholesterol that it requires (which it can without having to eat it) are of course stupid and harmful. They are also ineffective as the inflammation and damage of saturated fat and oxidised cholesterol (and of course trans fat in marg) is still being done to your body if you are still eating it.
But it's your funeral as they say.
The Holy Scriptures exalt fat. Using fat to describe abundance of goodness.
That should be a clue to us.
For what it's worth. As an experiment, I ate almost nothing but fast food burgers for 6 months at McDonald's and Carl's Jr. My cholesterol dropped from 310 to 220. Imagine that.
Flaxseed oil should be considered in a different light from most other seed-oils, but it tastes funny and needs to be preserved, including against light.
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/supplement/flaxseed-oil#:~:text=Flaxseed%20oil%20comes%20from%20the%20seed%20of%20the%20flax%20plant,acids%20found%20in%20fish%20oils.
"Flaxseed oil comes from the seed of the flax plant. It contains 50 to 60% omega-3 fatty acids in the form of alpha-linolenic acid (ALA). That is more than is contained in fish oil. But the body is not very efficient at converting ALA into the omega-3 fatty acids found in fish oils."
WOW!
Seed oils (other than maybe coconut and olive?) are nasty, inflammatory.
And there were exactly ZERO prehistoric humans extracting oil from soy, corn, canola, etc., and eating it.
I think soy only got approved for human consumption in the 50s. Before there was only fermented soy in far eastern food I think. Tried it, not a fan. Only using coconut, olive oil, and butter. Great cheese fan although been a bit on the edge with milk since birth. Mom had to give me buttermilk (which I detest now)
Yes, I also had a restricted diet. Only skim milk for this baby. And my son...Only goat milk.
Goat milk is best for human intestines. The molecules are smaller and pass through the intestinal wall without causing damage. Oh course, mother's milk is best of she is eating unaltered foods. Back in the day, breastfeeding was only for the low class, though.
When my babies got old enough for me to get a break now and then, I didn't like "pumping" (for the babysitter) because it altered my milk production too much, (and it's quality) so I used raw goat milk. Worked fine enough. But they were ON me when I got home. I was so "low class" that I breastfed my youngest for 4 years! ;-)
:-) Right you are. By the time I had my son it was 'fashionable', high class and 'New Age-y' to do the right thing, though letting the child breastfeed past a year(?) was gossiped about.
I was sorry my son weaned his own self at about six months old. I wanted that comfortable high that comes with giving to your baby.
Ha, explains the allergy, I'm thinking. Though I don't know.
Today it's fashionable to schedule C-sections. Can you believe that? At a salon I was using, all the young women were scheduling their babies' births for convenience or to happen on a special day. Crazy to my mind, that is.
6 months? They don't even get any more than their "milk teeth" until they're 5. But each baby is different. My oldest lost interest at 3 years, youngest never did;-)
yes I got mother's milk for the first few months, then I got formula. To my surprise talking about it recently my dad, almost 90, remembered the brand of formula I got 66 years ago LOL.
You might research raw milk. I don't know personally, but have read that people that can't drink store milk, can usually drink raw milk as the pasteurization process changes the chemistry of the milk.
forbidden for human consumption in GA can you believe it. someone I know drives 60 miles to get it, too far for the bit I use.
I can buy raw milk but the farmer who sells it to the local health food store has to label it "Bath Milk"! It tastes so different, creamy. I love it.
if I could buy it that close I would. It reminds of commercials for milk we had back in Belgium as a kid, where people would drink it and then have a white moustache - that can only happen with fresh, natural milk. Homogenized and sterilized like it is now in Belgium does not do that. They have the cartons with over-heated milk that does not even need to be cooled before opening! when I came here and tasted the pasteurized milk I went hmmmmm, it was already so much better!
It is so wrong of them to forbid it but well, as it is and you only need some, I may have a suggestion, forgive me when I come up with a wrong idea you don't like.
If you like yogurt, you can make yogurt out of it, it stays well for a long period of time, depending on the culture you use, up to several weeks. (the least we have, is two weeks), we usually get 10 liters and make 2 liters yogurt and two small cheeses. Nice with cheesemaking: the curd that does not fit in the mold, can be used as cottage cheese. Leave the whey for another day and cook it again but now warmer, not boiling, until you see it getting tiny flocks: Here you have your bonus: ricotta. The whey that is then left, can be used as a drink, as a base for soups, in the garden as fertiliser (on the compost heap is also possible) or use it against mildew: very effective. I realise this is only nice having a garden but if you have: use it ;-) .
60 miles is even then maybe too far, I can imagine but who knows, maybe you know more people who like it and you buy together.
until 4 years ago I made yoghourt. Then I got a rash, on doctors advice I stopped milk products, and when I finally found out what caused the rash (liquid soap-shampoo) Igot out of the habit. But your suggestions might make me start again! Thanks for the tips, never tried making cheese but saw on the Azeri blog Kand Hajati how they do it. I also got 2 milk loving cats and a yoghourt loving dog ! I am going to hear around if some local farmer has any milk ! Thanks MaritB !
😕 Would they let you buy a little bit from them? I've been thinking about getting some for a recipe here and there, seems to be legal here, but I don't like milk, so I'm afraid it would be a huge waste of limited funds.
I did until the scamdemic came. then we lost contact. multijabbers unfortunately.
Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. 😔
I watched numerous people testifying (at a state senate hearing where they were attempting to ban all raw milk products) that raw dairy saved their lives. It IS best. And if you can get it (and afford it) it should be your primary source of dairy, if dairy is something you eat. Those cows are WONDERFUL!
Sprouts in parts of Arizona is selling it
We only drink raw milk or use it to make cheese, yogurt, butter etc. My experience with people who want to try raw milk despite not being able to drink store milk, is exactly what you say: they can drink it.
yes cotton is a very dirty crop. Unfortunately I don't do very well with chemical fabrics, so I have to search for decent cotton to wear. And I live in cotton country... love to see it in seed though. Snow on a stem!
All of those are big time GMO too.
Still, the qualities of the oil the plants will produce could have been altered by altering the genetic structure of the plant. It is possible to make the resulting oil even more toxic than it already was. For crying out loud, they're actually making cows that produce HUMAN milk now;-)
Both olive oil and avocado are not seed oils, AFAIK their oil comes from the flesh not the seed
The flesh of plant seeds still produces plant oils. And plant oils have far fewer electrons (per fatty acid molecule) than any animal fat does. Some plant oils are more stable than others, whether it's extracted from the nut inside of the seed, or the flesh. The more "saturated" the more stable, due to the high number of electrons in each molecule. More electrons make the fat harder to degrade or transform into a "transfat." Trans-fats are simply fatty acid molecules that are very low in electrons, which makes them very fragile and vulnerable to further destruction and loss of even more electrons. This is why "unsaturated" plant oils become rancid so quickly after extraction. Consuming low electron fatty acids releases these "free radicals" into our systems which injure our tissues/cells/DNA.
Whether it comes from the plant flesh or the nut inside of it, what actually matters, is how stable the oil is, i.e., the number of electrons each molecule carries. The less electrons, (unsaturated) the more fragile, and the faster the oil becomes a "free radical" when exposed to heat, light, and other assaults, such as chemical breakdown, which INCLUDES the digestive process when exposed to our bile salts and pepsin in the gut.
These fragile (low electron) fatty acid molecules are "hungry" to replace these missing electrons. When you breakdown an unstable fat and it circulates in your bloodstream, it WILL scavenge these missing electrons from your own cells, and even from your DNA, causing inflammation and even cancers. This is where the term "free radicals" (which come from "transfats") came from. Plant oils (specifically unsaturated plant oils) are far less stable than "saturated" animal fats, because animal fats have far more electrons per fatty acid molecule than ANY plant oil. But coconuts are special, and their oil is considered "saturated" - meaning coconut oil has more electrons per fatty-acid molecule than just about any other plant oil. It's not as many electrons as are found in animal fats, but still, it's more than other plant oils I am aware of.
The human body is constantly suffering from DNA and mitochondrial damage. When we consume saturated fats, we get access to the excess electrons available from these, which HEALS this damage. This is because WE (our tissues and DNA) are now "scavenging" the excess electrons we need from the "saturated" fat we're consuming. This appears to be why people who go "carnivore" (and start eating lots of saturated fats, while eliminating all plants and their oils) report immediate relief from inflammation, and also complete reversal of many degenerative diseases (previously thought to be incurable). I can personally attest to this myself, as I was imminently headed for a wheelchair (debilitating arthritis) before I turned to carnivore, which gave me immediate relief from the inflammation, and is swiftly reversing the joint damage.
Coconut oil still doesn't have as many electrons per molecule as animal fats have, but it appears to be the safest plant oil available, due to it's high number of electrons per fat molecule. Again, the issue here is not whether the oil was extracted from the flesh around the seed, but how "saturated" the oil is WITH EXTRA ELECTRONS.
Although we've been lied to endlessly about "saturated" fats, it's now been proven that saturated fats do NOT injure the heart or clog arteries, and that they are actually best for our bodies. Indeed, many carnivores have reversed their heart disease by eating only saturated fats, and eliminating all plants from their diets. And this makes sense, since the extra electrons available with saturated fats are ABSOLUTELY needed to repair DNA and tissue damage.
All of that said, all I really know for certain (with my own eyes) is that food which immediately (and massively) improves my health, and which CONTINUES to improve my health, is the food I want to go on eating. And the foods which caused me agonizing inflammation while progressively destroying my tissues, are NOT interesting to me anymore, no matter how good they taste, and no matter how many times the FDA tries to tell me I will die if I refuse to eat them.
I almost lost my job as a holistic nutritionist in a health food store for suggesting that flax oil can be problematic and do not provide the essential phospholipid natural omega3 forms.
wow.
I believe we convert from flax oil and the problem is that it's not efficient at all.
Exactly - and the inefficiency results in byproducts that are inflammatory. I saw this in children especially, because they are the least able to convert it. It was also notorious for causing diarrhea. And it goes rancid every quickly. When you try to get the omega3 by eating ground flax seeds you get irritating saponins. I think flax is best left for seed-eating birds. Even squirrels around here won't eat them.
I actually just bought some from my food coop though because one of my dogs loves it and is so picky that he gets skinny. So I still use it for that LOL
It didn't occur to me that flax would have saponins!
I'm so sorry to hear this, you wouldn't expect that of a health food store, great you spoke out!
I only use flax oil to make oil paints, hahahaha! Sure I'm not going to eat it.
Very very very sometimes I take a little walnut oil, pressed from our own walnuts, usually also for paints but I taste a bit of it as well as I like it. Pure flax oil tastes awful by the way (tried it, of course, try the taste of everything that is not as much poison instantly as fox glove or something). Eat the walnuts, press some for oil to make paint, use the green hulls to make inks and that is it.
Flax oil is best used in canvas for fine art painting. Also on fine furniture.
I can’t say enough good things about the carnivore diet. It changed my life.
Same
We run laps around our adult kids and grandkids
LOL
No meds
Lots of fresh air Vit D along with our Ancestral Diet 🥩
Do you cheat sometimes like I do?
I kinda like my zucchini and my peppers.
YES!!! I read the Weston Price book years ago...It is a little difficult getting decent dairy and meat products in my present situation. I hope to change that soon! Thanks for this....
The prices are huge but I still believe that eating healthy and organic with grass fed proteins and raw dairy will save you on the doctor bills, hospital bills and insurance premiums as you get older.
I live in Cleveland, home of Weston Price. He practiced there, truly a great man. There is no history of him in any fashion? He was the first President of the equivilaent to American Dental Association back then. He was fired do to his holistic views.
Yes, yes, yes! For example, with soy, Americans look at it like a full meal (soy hot dogs or burgers) but Asians use it as more of a condiment like in miso soup.
And miso, tempeh, and tamari are all fermented
Fermented yes, but still soy. I would rather drink kombucha and eat sauerkraut and pickles.
I love pickles and sauerkraut and kimchi
I don't care either way and will never eat soy. Even Asian food is all cooked with seed oils.
Equally as horrendous IMHO and I won't eat either.
I have 70 olive trees on my one hectare in Portugal and make my own olive oil each year, getting between 30-80 litres depending on the harvest and pruning regimen.
Oh lovely 💙
aren't you clever!
I rarely eat out anymore because I don't want a slip up of seed oil ingestion. I make all meals from scratch and most meals use butter. Butter is delicious and I never feel sick after eating it as opposed to eating out and not feeling well afterward. Cooking is fun, tasty, and creative. I love feeding my friends and family and feel this is how it's supposed to be. Know what you are cooking with and how to cook it properly. Eating out is expensive not only monetarily but also health wise.
Right on Lisa 👍
I stopped using grape seed after watching\reading one of Dr. Joseph Mercola's posts on Substack. He has a podcast channel on youtube. I use no seed oils but use beef dripping or butter for frying. As I live (exist) in Ireland, the olive oil sold here is subject to the Italian, French, Spanish etc. purity laws and as such is of acceptable quality - particularly in the case of extra virgin olive oil. As a committed carnivore I eat minimal carbs and some veg - occasionally. I vill not eat ze bugs!!!
Mercola is now a censoring sellout.
I stopped eating meat 5 years Ago. It took me few tries, but here I am, meat Free. My decision was based on the horrible suffering of the animals, so we can be satisfied. Then I realized a spiritual healing was taking place. I remember thinking, how do I justify this treatment of animals for me? I can not. Animals feel pain, experience loss of their own. If one goes back far enough, what we have left, of ancient texts, we were originally told not to eat meat, they have been traumatized, their bodies are filled with pain, fear, then you eat that . Now some say do grain fed, as like the Amish, they have a very "humane" way of killing the animal, true, it is better on the end result of killing the animal, but I still can not do it.
It's why we started raising our own animals for meat, poultry, eggs and milk. I know exactly what I eat, how they lived and died because we do everything ourselves. It taught me a deep appreciation for the food and everything involved.
Yes, you are ahead of the game. In US an Amish farmer, Miller Farms, got persecuted by federal government for his farm, meats and dairy, all organic, as one can be at this stage. He eventually won, after fines, arrests etc. A lot of people got behind him, his farms now are member only, was before and they still persecuted. Now it is a fight on all sides, on just the poisons in all foods. We are in a losing fight, unless all comes down.
As a city person, I am very grateful for the farmers markets where local small (mostly organic) farmers share their products. An important option to DIY.
tried vegetarian several times, after the mad cow disease in Europe stopped eating red meat, unless I can find bison. Indeed, the way food animals are raised is disgusting. If we could go back 60, 70 years, where small farms were still operating in Europe (probably already gone by then here in US), where each farmer had enough animals to feed the land, it was a closed circle - healthy animals, no chemicals on the land. But then came Big and messed it all up for everyone, and now Europe is trying to get rid of the farmers in favor of chemicals (and bugs)
Thank you for your compassion-in-action. I feel the exact same way that you do re: animal welfare. I wish more people did. Factory farming is an abomination.
I wish more saw the pain too.
How to get manufactured oils from soy, corn, cotton seed, and especially partially hydrogenated trans fats.
Crush seeds, extract with hexane
filter to remove lecithin and other "particulates". Sell lecithin.
Place in a vacuum and heat to 250 C, blow with nitrogen to strip vit A, vit E, antioxidant phenolics, Phytosterols, Flavonoids.... leaving high molecular weight triglycerides. Sell stripped vitamins.
Decolorize with charcoal, removing remaining antioxidants.
Partially hydrogenate with hydrogen and Nickel at high pressure., making many different unnatural trans isomers
Add BHA/BHT to stabilize the triglycerides.
Sell to public as safe and effective.
It is an error to assume that taking the life of plants is more moral than taking the life of animals. https://www.asifthinkingmatters.com/blog/plants-are-people-too
The fact is, as much as I personally dislike it, we must take lives in order to survive. That is the way the biological world is designed in order to sustain itself.
If we want health there is a basic principle that must be followed with regard to food: We must obey our archetypal genetic design and eat what we are designed to eat.
If you try to do that in the wild, naked and without fire and tools (our archetypal setting), you would not survive without eating animals.
Sorry. That's the reality.
Completely agree.
Always Intersting watching the Naked and Afraid show.
Many quitting and requesting a steak
What strikes me that in the examples given, I see people proudly announcing their weight loss and lower BP.
I realise I belong to a small minority, but I need to gain weight! I am one of those people who need to eat to maintain their weight, and, if possible, increase it.
Already having a low BP (runs in the family), I don’t need to bring it down.
I do not use seed oils but extra vergine olive oil from a small organic olive grower in Italy.
It would be nice to have my group included in advice on food.
I’m in that group too. I just ignore the weight loss issues and focus on the healthy food and lifestyle choices. Organic as much as possible - the widespread use of glyphosate is terrifying. Local small farms as much as possible for trusted sources - I don’t eat meat but do eat eggs and love knowing their source and recent gathering. I haven’t eaten sugar for about 5 years - likely the most important change. We never have to worry about “calories” - how fortunate! Walk and exercise because I want my body to be functioning well.
How nice to ‘meet’ someone else with the same ‘issue’. I’ve always eaten healthy food, never sugar. Much like you Jaqueline, food wise. I’ve always been a walker, too.
And yes. Never have been worried about calories. The more I’d eat, like Christmas dinners, the faster my metabolism worked.
I’m underweight. Chronic inflammatory response syndrome.
I was doing well at the beginning of lockdown, but I had to start shopping just at Publix because of the Apeel hidden everywhere lately. It’s made me loose weight & I didn’t know why everything was making me nauseous. Apeel coating!
I haven’t seen many articles on APEEL
Think Mercola did one
Wonder if Celia can do one
Whole Foods employee are fed a bunch of word salad to repeat to customers when asked about Apeel. You can tell when the vegetables don’t break down normally
https://deeprootsathome.com/dont-touch-apeel-produce-this-applies-to-organics-too/
Oh I am sorry, lockdowns ruined so much for so many. Hope you will be able to get back to where you were before those started. Take care Rosalind 🙏💙
Thanks. I have an unusual story. Had neglect for years by insurance dictated doctors. Found an integrative medicine doctor who is helping me have some quality of life. I moved from upstate New York to Florida just before lockdown and was ( unexpectedly and happily) married March 2, so my honeymoon was lockdown. I tried arranging a church wedding, went to counseling and everything. Still haven’t done that, our anniversary is coming up. Very thankful to have a supportive husband and a doctor outside the system.
Oh my goodness, thank heaven you finally found that doctor who is really helping you. I do hope you will be feeling well enough to get that church wedding one day. 🙏💙
From 2001 to 2018, God’s grace got me through. I didn’t always feel it at the time.
An excellent Body Of Work to consider is that of Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD [ http://doctor-natasha.com/ ] who wrote a book called Vegetarianism Explained [ https://bookshop.org/a/93797/9780954852061 ]. She is a frequent speaker at Weston A Price conferences and is best known for her protocol to turn around autism symptoms and other conditions of modern childhood. [
https://bookshop.org/a/93797/9780954852023 ]. She is as intelligent and authentic as they come. She recommends a clean, ancestral diet that eliminates all disaccharides. It is high in animal fats and proteins. I think the main difference between this and 'carnivore' is her addition of cooked vegetables and fruits (like berries) and even honey can be introduced at later stages, after the GI tract is healed. I should add, I think the reason people can no longer digest all sorts of plant material, is because toxins have destroyed the GI lining. Oneone hand, 'carnivore' and 'GAPS' and other diets high in animal fat, protein and minerals DO turn around conditions like depression, seizure disorders and all sorts of things. On the other hand, we should consider the idea that we should be able to tolerate all foods that our ancestors ate. If we can no longer do this, our body burden of toxins and other stressors has reached its human limits.
Well now. I guess I am one of those horrible plant-based people, and that includes NO SOS (Sugar, oil, Salt ;-) ). Theory aside, it worked for me, and it is working for the hundreds of folks, I see making the switch. When I did in early 2015, within six months all my biomarkers were normal again and just to be sure, I changed to a Lifestyle Medicine trained physician, who could at least discuss my lifestyle changes intelligently. More recently, I have become interested in a new test for the cardiometabolic system, the MCG, which gives us a comprehensive model of the function of the entire system with 168 variables in 22 gradations of severity. It is cheaper than the co-pay on an Angiogram, but offers 95% accuracy vs 37% accuracy. With this test, you could compare the results of different diets, if you needed that. You could see the difference in weeks. I have written about it here: https://www.americaoutloud.news/the-power-of-whole-foods-against-cardiovascular-disease/
Undoubtedly, there are times when a change of diet can help break through certain plateaus. But long term, the low carb diets undermine health. With MCG we now have a simple test where you can see the differences and people can stop arguing, for we now have facts. The Weston Price approach may be better than SAD, Standard American Diet, but that is no major feat. It cannot be shown to work.
Where did I call you horrible?
You did not...just a bit of self-deprecating humor on my part. But: vegan or vegetarian are not nutrition. They are ethical concepts. Vegan being secular (animal welfare/environment), and vegetarian religious (Hindu, Buddhist). Whole Foods Plant-Based (T. Colin Campbell) is proper plant based nutrition, and includes NO SOS, and B12 and D3 supplementation. During the Covid mania, research was published in BMJ showing 73% reduced risk of "moderate to severe" covid for plantbased people, still 59% reduced risk for pescetarisns and a 20% increase in risk for the high fat/ low carb diets. (As presented by Brooke Goldner, MD.):
https://youtu.be/4i358mYJwHs?si=Y5xALAgqlLtOVh9w
Ah. Fake covid makes its way into fake studies. awesome.
everyone is different. I do not do well on all veggies, and I do not want to do all meat, either. Some descend from farmers and others descend from hunters I guess! thanks for the link, will check it outl One thing is for sure though - land used for feeding vegetarians can feed more than land used for feeding meat. eaters.
Ingrid I agree with you. I have seen a pattern on social media where someone tries a diet or lifestyle and gets astounding results and then they think everyone has the same biochemistry and that everyone will do as great as they did and should all follow suit.
Personally, I do fine on vegan but it's too difficult to stick to. As I started to prepare homecooked food for my dogs, and reading the functional medicine perspective, I started accepting that I could eat meat again. I tried keto but after 3 months felt terrible with cramping in my calves that would only stop with more carbs. Prior to that on a trip to Central America I only ate meat for a week and by the end I was craving salad so bad that I had one against my better judgement and got the runs from the water it was washed with.
My goals are to achieve a healthy weight and get rid of those "bitch" mood swings or cravings. I think that is more related to avoiding glucose spikes - which a meat based diet does well - than eating just meat. If you read the glucose goddess books you can also achieve that by changing the order of your food intake to greens, protein and fats and then the carbs. That puts me on an even keel I do best with lower carb but focused on greens, meats and berries. The meats have to be pasture raised or wild caught because it's more humane and have a healthier fatty acid profile. That being said, it seems that some people have allergies to lectins and other things in greens that cause all kinds of health problems. So there truly isn't one diet that is best for us all.
EXCEPT for the subject of this article - avoiding seed oils and ultra processed foods. THAT is the universal food recommendation as far as I'm concerned. Beyond that it's individual constitution and heritage.
I do think it's a service to show people who may have all sorts of allergies that they might do better eating all meat - with the caveat that it is humanely raised and pasture fed. I would add dairy products to that caveat as well - pasture fed dairy has a better fatty acid profile than regular. And if you can get pasture raised dairy from A2 cows all the better.
I think that everyone has an individual constitution and the human carnivores are a minority. Just look at our teeth - they aren't like dog's teeth. They are omnivore teeth - some teeth for ripping and more flat molars for chewing plant foods.
Everyone can become more healthy by getting rid of ultra processed foods and seed oils. I can stick with that one!
listen to your body, it knows best. and follow with a good advice from dad : don't eat anything that your great-gramma would not recognize as food
Exactly
I truly appreciate your posts but this one, you do exactly what you accuse others of, concerning aggressive, not kind language. Maybe you do it on purpose to mirror, I also noticed way aggressive language from many vegans so I really get you. I hope that is the reason of you language, to mirror, let people feel. Otherwise you just have shoved many in the wrong box, like many Indian people who live vegetarian diets for generations..
I'm not going to throw my past in the public space but want to share this: I've been a victim of extreme abuse during childhood, by many people, not one parent or a nasty neighbour; we talk about loads of neighbours including their children who cut my face open, kicked me everywhere where they could, left me for dead in the gutter after kicking me KO, resulting in ending up in a wheelchair, as a kid. Even then it wasn't over. If I would judge people after their diets, I would say: all carnivores and vegans are horrible, aggressive and almost insane people. I realise they are not, those people who did this were, no matter their diets. If you are attacked because of your diet, you can get nasty, no matter your diet, can't you? I really think you are "losing" the group you address with "plant based friends", you come with really good arguments and suddenly you call them unhealthy, aggressive and so on, that is how it is read at least.
Please don't do that, you can make your otherwise good point very well without.
We press our own olive oil, mainly use homemade ghee and if we eat soy: it is made from our own soybeans , fermented by us (as we ferment more beans and grains) and made into tofu, soysauce and tempeh. Just like we make our own cheese, yogurt, butter (from raw milk from neighbouring cows), mustard, mayonnaise from eggs from the chickens next door, strutting around in our garden as well; our only neighbours, living a hundred meters from us and all things we eat often or less often; we hardly eat soy, bread, pasta etc but if: homemade. We eat only what we can make ourselves from pure, natural products. Most of those grow in our garden and we are happy we got this possibility. No herbicides and pesticides used by us or in our area, it is even forbidden where we live and our bees proof nobody secretly uses it, they are monitored by a university and every year they take 2 or three to see how healthy they are, if there are traces of poison, illnesses etc.
We don't eat meat, I can't eat it even if I would want to. As I don't recognise the stuff as I'm the whatever generation eating like this, I sometimes ingest something by accident and I get seriously ill, like a food poisoning. Depending on how much it was, I can even need a doctor, like after eating lard, without knowing it. We noticed it short after dinner something was wrong but they had assured us it was vegetarian. the doctor asked where we ate and he said: they always put lard in their food and think it is still vegetarian. Later we went back, to ask, they confirmed this. Therefore it couldn't be a psychological effect, what someone here once assumed, besides the fact that you don't get high fever, shaking, diarrhea from psychological effects, vomiting yes but the other stuff and more of that: no. If we would eat meat, we would do like what most around us do: eat it only so now and then and from your own or neighbouring animals. That is in our near village and all around it normal; we know what we eat and don't over consume.
I really really agree with you on all frustrations about the war on eggs, cholesterol and even meat although I would never want to kill someone for his meat but that is my point of view which is not the one and only truth or the best. Even I get upset about demonising carnivores and stand up for them so please, don't get cross with me now ;-)