I had the same reaction to Hoagland. She never felt real to me. I remember her gushing on and on at some event and one of the Flight 93 widows turned to look at her in disgust. It always stuck with me. What happened to the people on Flight 93 (or any of the other airliners)? Were they all fakes? Were their families all fake? Were they taken somewhere else and murdered?
A few years ago, a video that circulated (now unable to find) about the speculations of a woman who had been a stewardess for decades. She had a theory that the planes were flown to a nearby Airforce base (somewhere like Westover Air Reserve Base) but I can't recall the one she named. This base is able to obscure large planes in their C-5 Hangers. The people on board would have most likely been gassed, and disposed of in the large incinerators. The phone calls to loved ones could have been made from the hanger. Also she mentioned witnesses in the nearby area saw giant commercial jets flying low in their area (too low and not a normal flight pattern) and could see the faces of people. Also, the people who worked at the Reserve Base were told to take a vacation. The planes could have been repainted, repurposed for another country.
Her name was Rebekah Roth, & fortunately there are still articles about her/this, one of them including this fun tidbit, "Roth’s book has set off a stampede by her former colleagues in the aviation industry, who are rushing to provide details supporting her revelations. They are confirming the installation of FTS (Flight Termination System) equipment on the models “hijacked” on 9/11, which allowed those planes to be taken over remotely and flown from the ground. When FTS takes over a plane, it completely shuts down that plane’s communications with the outside world. That explains why not one of the four pilots on any of the 9/11 planes managed to flip a toggle switch and squawk the hijack code. Had the aircraft been hijacked in a normal manner, the pilots, who are trained to instantly squawk “hijack” in such an emergency, all would have done so." --from: https://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=35394
For anyone interested, Rebekah Roth has written 5 books on the topic of 9/11 with titles: Methodical Agenda, Methodical Conclusion, Methodical Illusion, etc. They are written in a fictional format to avoid lawsuits or intimidation.
Still the best Sept 11 documentary and it covers the supposed phone calls, voicemails, etc between pax and their families as well as the fate of the 4 flights...
I recall reading--years ago--of an airlines inspector who saw a commerical jet with the serial number of the one which allegedly made a narrow hole in the ground in Shanksville, PA--or was it the one which allegedly hit the Pentagon?--on the tarmac at O'Hare Internat'l Airport a year or so later. (Wish I'd taken better notes....)
I had seen, shortly after the 9-11 event, that someone had found that the passenger list was basically a list of Raytheon employees. If that is true, I can easily see that they could pretend to line up for a flight and just disappear out of the gate and head elsewhere, where no one would notice. That is at the very least, plausible.
Have to claim championship status in the naming game for one of Robert Mugabe's ministers. He is reputed to have named each of his ... 13 sons ... Herbert (pronounced Hehbet) ... after himself.
Got to bring in some light absurdity to offset the revulsion of the Hoagland hoax.
Well done for trusting your listening skills, Celia.
I am reminded of an experience Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and true doctor, records of playing a video of Ronald Reagan to a group of neurologically impaired adults. None of them found any reason to trust the schpiel. The aphasic read his body language and failed him. A woman fixated on grammar and logical linguistic sequencing of thought failed him. We can sometimes get to the nub of things by zoning out broader context and honing in on just the one aspect.
I’ve just watched the clip of her speaking about the phone calls and what disturbs me the most is her smiling ( duper’s delight?) while she’s talking about it!
You can typically get a signal for a few seconds - probably less than sixty - before and after takeoff and landing.
Occasionally you can get a signal during the landing approach for a few minutes, but it tends to be intermittent and weak. You can sometimes get a text message off, but calls are nearly always problematic until the final seconds.
I think it is highly, highly unlikely that all these cell phone calls were made. I haven't bothered to check
- exactly when they were supposed to have been made
- where the planes were supposed to be (height and location), and whether any signal might have been even remotely possible
- how cell phone technology back then compares to what was in use today (back then I hadn't experimented with cell phones as much because that was around the time I got my first one :-)).
I haven't bothered to check into the details of the actual calls which were supposed to have been made because I am convinced that the government is/was lying about what happened for a hundred other at-least-as-valid reasons :-).
Is this similar to when Nixon called the astronauts on the moon using a land line phone. Must have been one long land line and where were the telephone poles???
FWIW - and I made a comment elsewhere in response to this article on the same subject - the Nixon call could have been real.
Put another way - there's nothing about the call itself which would have been impossible at the time. The call could have been switched to a radio link, the lag is compatible with the distance, and there is an unusual, but not impossible, echo.
That doesn't prove that Nixon did call the moon of course :-), but the call itself is not good evidence that the moon landing didn't happen.
According to General Dynamics a new system was developed for communications on Apollo missions called USB. Hundreds of employees in Scottsdale, AZ began developing the Unified S-Band Transponder in 1962, a new system that would accurately track the Apollo spacecraft, transmit and receive telemetry signals, communicate between ground stations and the spacecraft, and provide the link for the historic broadcast from the surface of the moon. The formal contract was awarded in 1963 to Motorola’s Government Electronics Division, a legacy company of General Dynamics. It was uses on Apollo 11. ( https://gdmissionsystems.com/space/apollo11 )
This it appears was on the transponding end and not the receiving end.
So how do you call the moon? According to the AT&T Archives, "Simply, the call went from the Oval Office in Washington D.C. to Houston, where it was routed into space via Mission Control, through the capsule communicator, or CapCom, astronaut Bruce McCandless II."AT&T's predecessor, The Bell System, was involved with the American space program through the subsidiary that worked with NASA, BellComm. ( https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/How-did-President-Richard-Nixon-place-a-phone-14108185.php ) So supposedly they could have transmitted Nixon's call and it would have gone through Capcom. What technology they may have used I am not sure.
It was just the silliness of showing Nixon on a land line and also the many other narratives that shed a doubt on the lunar landing!!!!
Not in 2001. This shocker was quite noticeable immediately after hearing calls were being made during a hijacked flight. Didn’t happen. They could not and did not work in any plane anywhere in 2001.
I very strongly doubt you are correct here. I am almost certain that they worked about the same in 2001 as they did over the last 10-15 years.
That said - that means that all these calls were very unlikely to have been possible. If you checked the suppposed location of the planes when the calls were made you might well find that the calls were completely impossible then and now.
Turning off devices for takeoff and landing presumably is about equipment needed for those activities -- navigation, etc. Presumably all devices built into the airplane are shielded. Personally, having thought about it quite a lot, the whole seems ritualistic, with no basis in reality. It's just there to keep people busy during preparation for takeoff and landing. If you are a commercial pilot, I would love to hear your take on this.
I was once on a flight where the pilot prohibited the use of any device with a spinning disk drive, at any time, during the flight; in that era, that was all laptop computers, which were not equipped with solid-state drives.
There probably is some basis for this. Especially when the devices first came out. there is some potential for interference with the planes' electrical systems and instrumentation - and early on nobody had done any testing so probably better safe than sorry.
But then a few years ago I think I recall that they decided to allow pilots to use them, but not passengers. That was most definitely nonsense.
Mythbusters did an episode on this years ago. They concluded that it was safe to have your cell phone on. I am just repeating their conclusion, FYI.
I used to leave my cell phone on just to see if anything happened. I guess we all survived since I am here typing this. I was told that the phones wouldn't work because they would change towers too quickly to keep a signal. I have no idea if that was valid or not.
They also tried really really hard to get a car gassing up to explode when a cell call would come in. Evidently, you really do need to light your cigar at just the right moment. All the cell calls in the world won't make the gas pump explode. However, I would remind everyone who is reading to WEAR YOUR LIFE JACKET AND SNORKEL AT ALL TIMES.
Yes I have listened to her, it was years ago, I assume she is correct and have not had time to read her book yet. Is Judy Woods still with us, still alive?
yes she is https://www.drjudywood.com/ if she wasn't the first, she has been the most prominent among those who have identified DEW weapons contributing to the demolition.
Sorry, she passed away on June 13th, 2021 after heart surgery complications. My favorite quote of her's that changed my life: "If you listen to the evidence carefully enough, it will speak to you and tell you exactly what happened. If you don't know what happened then keep listening until you do. The key is not to allow yourself to be distracted away from seeing what the evidence is telling you. Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic." Well worth the read. She is greatly missed. Wish I had told her how much before she passed. Thank you Celia Farber for being a lighthouse is these murky times. Just saying.
I was sad to hear of Judy Wood's passing, so I went in search of her obituary.
But I've cheered up since, because what I found was an obituary of a different Judy Wood, who was a CPA in Atlanta before moving to DC's Capital Hill in 1998, where she lived with her partner, Andy Ross, and enjoying "the vibrant life on the Hill" before she passed away on June 13th, 2021 after heart surgery complications.
... although she is ignored almost everywhere else online. I couldn't find a Wikipedia article on her, although she's got a reasonably good writeup at Rational Wiki ....
Thanks for letting these thoughts run as they may & responses as well, this is immensely thought provoking & useful. A couple of thoughts: we tend to endow "them" with a certain omniscience. Things don't necessarily need to be only this way or that way. Once a plan is implemented there is a vortex like movement in which the necessarily staged & the actual become more & more difficult to differentiate or, at times, purposely made to appear so absurd in order to cloud instinct, intuition AND rational thought. Not sure if anyone has spent any time or gotten to know well any former deep spooks, but, in my case at least, I've found it quite enlightening. In any case, I hope this continues for a while—[as an aside, Celia, should my package land at some point, the ms. included has gone through some serious revision in a key section, so...]
I got it!!! Thank you! Recently when I finally went back to NY to get mail. Looks fascinating. I just need time. Next three weeks, super intense deadline for a project but then it's top of my list.
Back in the crazy days post the so-called Islamist attack on the towers I, like many, dutifully lined up to sign the Book of Condolences at the US Embassy in Dublin having fully accepted the official narrative. But, happily, or perhaps unhappily, in later years I became more skeptical, really skeptical. I found this documentary (2 parts - part 2 linked below) that debunks the debunkers - there is a segment specifically on how impossible it was, and still is, to make cell phone calls from up there.
I believe you but here is what I wonder, a simple question: How did I call my then husband, Bob, from airplanes? Remember those? They were next to the tray, and one used a credit card and it cost a fortune. I had a crippling fear of flying after a plane I was in in 1995 with my infant son and my mother fell, just fell, stopped flying. After many minutes of screaming and things crashing and the Puerto Rican ladies calling out to many saints (It was San Juan to NYC) the plane stopped dropping. I developed the phobia after that. So when it was turbulent I called Bob. Why were there PHONES in coach?
The sledged plane was flying at low altitude to avoid radar. I hav eased cell,phone on plane at low altitude many times. Todd Beamer who made the famous “let’s roll” call worked for CIA creation Oracle and a defence contractor. There were many defence contractors allegedly on that flight that crashed over Shanksville.
The airfones used their own special radio network to carry the voice. Totally different technology.
Airfones certainly existed in 2001 and would have allowed phone calls to be made. However there is no suggestion that these devices were used for the calls, presumably either because they were not in the planes in question and/or they would have generated evidence (credit card charges, phone records etc.) which does not exist, and this lack of evidence might have been obvious to the public.
The fact that airfones existed and worked says nothing either way about the possibility of making cell phone calls from the planes.
EDIT - actually some calls were suggested, at least in some versions, to have been made using airfones. Although others were definitely supposed to be cell phone calls. I believe that at least one of the planes was not equipped with airfones, but this is not an area I've dived into deeply.
Actually I think they have switched back and forth a bit. As per previous comment, this isn't an aspect of the evidence I really looked at hard. But the article Eric linked to suggested that Mark used an airfone for example. Other callers have been described as making cell phone calls and, as far as I recall some have been "corrected" from one technology to the other when the story didn't seem to add up.
I'm with you on the fear of causing offence. I just made a couple of comments on Rod Dreher's 9/11 post and have succeeded in deeply upsetting everyone.
I didn't realise anyone still believed the official narrative.
Actually FWIW I think that call could have been made as recorded.
It would have been possible to switch the telephone call over to a radio link. And the lag is sufficient for the distance. The echo you hear briefly doesn't have a long enough lag to fit the most common cause of echo (remote end) though. But it is possible for echo to be generated at other places in the call closer to the caller.
Obviously the fact that this call might have happened as shown doesn't prove the moon landings did happen. But it's not great proof that they didn't.
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Her book is brilliant. Had to look, sorry that she passed way after complications from heart surgery on June 13th, 2021. To me, she was doggedly relentless in her pursuit of truth (as you are). Her quote: "If you listen to the evidence carefully enough, it will speak to you and tell you exactly what happened. If you don't know what happened, then keep listening until you do. The evidence always tells the truth. The key is not to allow yourself to be distracted from what the evidence is telling you. Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic." Her book is well worth it.
The globalists have taken control of America. 9/11 was certainly a big part of re-orienting the military, and the “pandemic” re-oriented the economy, social/political values, and demographics. Secular “liberals” some of them well-meaning, have been on the tip of the sphere of this great reset since the 1960s. (I would also argue that everything that has occurred since the Immigration Act of 1965 is playing a powerful role.). I did not see this before 2020, but embracing God and Jesus as the truth, and following, is a powerful way to resist.
I had the same reaction to Hoagland. She never felt real to me. I remember her gushing on and on at some event and one of the Flight 93 widows turned to look at her in disgust. It always stuck with me. What happened to the people on Flight 93 (or any of the other airliners)? Were they all fakes? Were their families all fake? Were they taken somewhere else and murdered?
A few years ago, a video that circulated (now unable to find) about the speculations of a woman who had been a stewardess for decades. She had a theory that the planes were flown to a nearby Airforce base (somewhere like Westover Air Reserve Base) but I can't recall the one she named. This base is able to obscure large planes in their C-5 Hangers. The people on board would have most likely been gassed, and disposed of in the large incinerators. The phone calls to loved ones could have been made from the hanger. Also she mentioned witnesses in the nearby area saw giant commercial jets flying low in their area (too low and not a normal flight pattern) and could see the faces of people. Also, the people who worked at the Reserve Base were told to take a vacation. The planes could have been repainted, repurposed for another country.
Terrifying.
Her name was Rebekah Roth, & fortunately there are still articles about her/this, one of them including this fun tidbit, "Roth’s book has set off a stampede by her former colleagues in the aviation industry, who are rushing to provide details supporting her revelations. They are confirming the installation of FTS (Flight Termination System) equipment on the models “hijacked” on 9/11, which allowed those planes to be taken over remotely and flown from the ground. When FTS takes over a plane, it completely shuts down that plane’s communications with the outside world. That explains why not one of the four pilots on any of the 9/11 planes managed to flip a toggle switch and squawk the hijack code. Had the aircraft been hijacked in a normal manner, the pilots, who are trained to instantly squawk “hijack” in such an emergency, all would have done so." --from: https://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=35394
For anyone interested, Rebekah Roth has written 5 books on the topic of 9/11 with titles: Methodical Agenda, Methodical Conclusion, Methodical Illusion, etc. They are written in a fictional format to avoid lawsuits or intimidation.
RR was a phony and was quickly dismissed by the 9/11 truther community.
Yeah? so what do you think happened to those 4 jets?
Two of the flights were not even scheduled to fly that day. So that just leaves two others to figure out.
Still the best Sept 11 documentary and it covers the supposed phone calls, voicemails, etc between pax and their families as well as the fate of the 4 flights...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk&t=3433s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8
Would you care to divulge where exactly in these nearly 5 hours of video RR & her observations are specifically addressed?
I know the doc, but does it really get to the bottom of the fate of the flights? Two weren't even scheduled that day.
I recall reading--years ago--of an airlines inspector who saw a commerical jet with the serial number of the one which allegedly made a narrow hole in the ground in Shanksville, PA--or was it the one which allegedly hit the Pentagon?--on the tarmac at O'Hare Internat'l Airport a year or so later. (Wish I'd taken better notes....)
Sounds like a movie script! And that’s likely what it was! 😵💫🤨
I heard that story as well.
Two of those flights were not scheduled that day. Narrows it down to two half-full planes.
Thank you. I think this is the likely conclusion.
I had seen, shortly after the 9-11 event, that someone had found that the passenger list was basically a list of Raytheon employees. If that is true, I can easily see that they could pretend to line up for a flight and just disappear out of the gate and head elsewhere, where no one would notice. That is at the very least, plausible.
Someone on Rod Dreher's post just told me his friend died on the first plane.
Proof? Just curious.
No.....but what proof could there be?
Thank you.
It used to be a joke, but now I'm feeling like we all live in THE TRUMAN SHOW....
Have to claim championship status in the naming game for one of Robert Mugabe's ministers. He is reputed to have named each of his ... 13 sons ... Herbert (pronounced Hehbet) ... after himself.
Got to bring in some light absurdity to offset the revulsion of the Hoagland hoax.
Well done for trusting your listening skills, Celia.
I am reminded of an experience Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and true doctor, records of playing a video of Ronald Reagan to a group of neurologically impaired adults. None of them found any reason to trust the schpiel. The aphasic read his body language and failed him. A woman fixated on grammar and logical linguistic sequencing of thought failed him. We can sometimes get to the nub of things by zoning out broader context and honing in on just the one aspect.
I’ve just watched the clip of her speaking about the phone calls and what disturbs me the most is her smiling ( duper’s delight?) while she’s talking about it!
Yes, it has mk ultra vibes. doesn't it?
Wouldn't dastardly conspirators be smart enough to feign sincerity more plausibly?
Is anyone aware that cell phones do not work on airplanes? Nobody has the guts to try it, because they think the plane is going to crash.
I try it all the time :-).
You can typically get a signal for a few seconds - probably less than sixty - before and after takeoff and landing.
Occasionally you can get a signal during the landing approach for a few minutes, but it tends to be intermittent and weak. You can sometimes get a text message off, but calls are nearly always problematic until the final seconds.
I think it is highly, highly unlikely that all these cell phone calls were made. I haven't bothered to check
- exactly when they were supposed to have been made
- where the planes were supposed to be (height and location), and whether any signal might have been even remotely possible
- how cell phone technology back then compares to what was in use today (back then I hadn't experimented with cell phones as much because that was around the time I got my first one :-)).
I haven't bothered to check into the details of the actual calls which were supposed to have been made because I am convinced that the government is/was lying about what happened for a hundred other at-least-as-valid reasons :-).
Is this similar to when Nixon called the astronauts on the moon using a land line phone. Must have been one long land line and where were the telephone poles???
FWIW - and I made a comment elsewhere in response to this article on the same subject - the Nixon call could have been real.
Put another way - there's nothing about the call itself which would have been impossible at the time. The call could have been switched to a radio link, the lag is compatible with the distance, and there is an unusual, but not impossible, echo.
That doesn't prove that Nixon did call the moon of course :-), but the call itself is not good evidence that the moon landing didn't happen.
Inter-city telephone calls have been transmitted by microwave radio since the 1950s!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_transmission
According to General Dynamics a new system was developed for communications on Apollo missions called USB. Hundreds of employees in Scottsdale, AZ began developing the Unified S-Band Transponder in 1962, a new system that would accurately track the Apollo spacecraft, transmit and receive telemetry signals, communicate between ground stations and the spacecraft, and provide the link for the historic broadcast from the surface of the moon. The formal contract was awarded in 1963 to Motorola’s Government Electronics Division, a legacy company of General Dynamics. It was uses on Apollo 11. ( https://gdmissionsystems.com/space/apollo11 )
This it appears was on the transponding end and not the receiving end.
So how do you call the moon? According to the AT&T Archives, "Simply, the call went from the Oval Office in Washington D.C. to Houston, where it was routed into space via Mission Control, through the capsule communicator, or CapCom, astronaut Bruce McCandless II."AT&T's predecessor, The Bell System, was involved with the American space program through the subsidiary that worked with NASA, BellComm. ( https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/How-did-President-Richard-Nixon-place-a-phone-14108185.php ) So supposedly they could have transmitted Nixon's call and it would have gone through Capcom. What technology they may have used I am not sure.
It was just the silliness of showing Nixon on a land line and also the many other narratives that shed a doubt on the lunar landing!!!!
Not in 2001. This shocker was quite noticeable immediately after hearing calls were being made during a hijacked flight. Didn’t happen. They could not and did not work in any plane anywhere in 2001.
I very strongly doubt you are correct here. I am almost certain that they worked about the same in 2001 as they did over the last 10-15 years.
That said - that means that all these calls were very unlikely to have been possible. If you checked the suppposed location of the planes when the calls were made you might well find that the calls were completely impossible then and now.
Hmm. Why do they tell you to turn off cell phones and all electronics? Then you can watch movies? I don't get it. How does it all work?
Turning off devices for takeoff and landing presumably is about equipment needed for those activities -- navigation, etc. Presumably all devices built into the airplane are shielded. Personally, having thought about it quite a lot, the whole seems ritualistic, with no basis in reality. It's just there to keep people busy during preparation for takeoff and landing. If you are a commercial pilot, I would love to hear your take on this.
I was once on a flight where the pilot prohibited the use of any device with a spinning disk drive, at any time, during the flight; in that era, that was all laptop computers, which were not equipped with solid-state drives.
There probably is some basis for this. Especially when the devices first came out. there is some potential for interference with the planes' electrical systems and instrumentation - and early on nobody had done any testing so probably better safe than sorry.
But then a few years ago I think I recall that they decided to allow pilots to use them, but not passengers. That was most definitely nonsense.
So they just TRUST that all passengers are going to turn off their devices? If this is a SAFETY reason, it seems they'd be a little less TRUSTING?
Oh - the nazi ladies patrol the aisles with beady eyes waiting to pounce and shame you publicly for being a naughty boy :-).
Mythbusters did an episode on this years ago. They concluded that it was safe to have your cell phone on. I am just repeating their conclusion, FYI.
I used to leave my cell phone on just to see if anything happened. I guess we all survived since I am here typing this. I was told that the phones wouldn't work because they would change towers too quickly to keep a signal. I have no idea if that was valid or not.
They also tried really really hard to get a car gassing up to explode when a cell call would come in. Evidently, you really do need to light your cigar at just the right moment. All the cell calls in the world won't make the gas pump explode. However, I would remind everyone who is reading to WEAR YOUR LIFE JACKET AND SNORKEL AT ALL TIMES.
I remember my dad never put out his cigarette while filling up with gas. 🤷♀️
Oh yes - and everyone must wear them, otherwise your own won’t work!
Ha ha! I better check with Amazon and order mine pronto!
Dr. Judy Woods book: Where Did The Towers Go. Empirical evidence of the truth.
Yes I have listened to her, it was years ago, I assume she is correct and have not had time to read her book yet. Is Judy Woods still with us, still alive?
yes she is https://www.drjudywood.com/ if she wasn't the first, she has been the most prominent among those who have identified DEW weapons contributing to the demolition.
Sorry, she passed away on June 13th, 2021 after heart surgery complications. My favorite quote of her's that changed my life: "If you listen to the evidence carefully enough, it will speak to you and tell you exactly what happened. If you don't know what happened then keep listening until you do. The key is not to allow yourself to be distracted away from seeing what the evidence is telling you. Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic." Well worth the read. She is greatly missed. Wish I had told her how much before she passed. Thank you Celia Farber for being a lighthouse is these murky times. Just saying.
Thank you too William.
I was sad to hear of Judy Wood's passing, so I went in search of her obituary.
But I've cheered up since, because what I found was an obituary of a different Judy Wood, who was a CPA in Atlanta before moving to DC's Capital Hill in 1998, where she lived with her partner, Andy Ross, and enjoying "the vibrant life on the Hill" before she passed away on June 13th, 2021 after heart surgery complications.
https://www.hillrag.com/2021/06/30/in-memoriam-judy-wood/
Meanwhile, Dr. Judy D. Wood of 9/11 fame is apparently alive and well and posting on Facebook....
https://www.facebook.com/drjudywood
... although she is ignored almost everywhere else online. I couldn't find a Wikipedia article on her, although she's got a reasonably good writeup at Rational Wiki ....
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Judy_Wood
I am so sorry for the wrong Judy Wood. Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
But while it's sad that the other Judy has passed on, we should be relieved that "our" Judy is still around, even if her profile is not very high.
Thanks for posting this.
What would turn concrete and steel to dust but leave paper intact?
Passport resilience on 9/11 was astounding!
The passport paper must have come from the same type of trees that survived the fires in Lahaina…
...and Paradise and Santa Rosa...
Thanks for letting these thoughts run as they may & responses as well, this is immensely thought provoking & useful. A couple of thoughts: we tend to endow "them" with a certain omniscience. Things don't necessarily need to be only this way or that way. Once a plan is implemented there is a vortex like movement in which the necessarily staged & the actual become more & more difficult to differentiate or, at times, purposely made to appear so absurd in order to cloud instinct, intuition AND rational thought. Not sure if anyone has spent any time or gotten to know well any former deep spooks, but, in my case at least, I've found it quite enlightening. In any case, I hope this continues for a while—[as an aside, Celia, should my package land at some point, the ms. included has gone through some serious revision in a key section, so...]
I got it!!! Thank you! Recently when I finally went back to NY to get mail. Looks fascinating. I just need time. Next three weeks, super intense deadline for a project but then it's top of my list.
Right on! Dig dig dig
I won’t even watch the fake crap. This is a joke, phony as the official “planes hitting the towers” story.
Trust your instincts they are usually right
Odd name for the commenter don't you think?
le_berger-des-photons. Shepherd of light.
Lightbearer?
Good catch.
Back in the crazy days post the so-called Islamist attack on the towers I, like many, dutifully lined up to sign the Book of Condolences at the US Embassy in Dublin having fully accepted the official narrative. But, happily, or perhaps unhappily, in later years I became more skeptical, really skeptical. I found this documentary (2 parts - part 2 linked below) that debunks the debunkers - there is a segment specifically on how impossible it was, and still is, to make cell phone calls from up there.
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/september-11-new-pearl-harbor/
I believe you but here is what I wonder, a simple question: How did I call my then husband, Bob, from airplanes? Remember those? They were next to the tray, and one used a credit card and it cost a fortune. I had a crippling fear of flying after a plane I was in in 1995 with my infant son and my mother fell, just fell, stopped flying. After many minutes of screaming and things crashing and the Puerto Rican ladies calling out to many saints (It was San Juan to NYC) the plane stopped dropping. I developed the phobia after that. So when it was turbulent I called Bob. Why were there PHONES in coach?
The sledged plane was flying at low altitude to avoid radar. I hav eased cell,phone on plane at low altitude many times. Todd Beamer who made the famous “let’s roll” call worked for CIA creation Oracle and a defence contractor. There were many defence contractors allegedly on that flight that crashed over Shanksville.
The airfones used their own special radio network to carry the voice. Totally different technology.
Airfones certainly existed in 2001 and would have allowed phone calls to be made. However there is no suggestion that these devices were used for the calls, presumably either because they were not in the planes in question and/or they would have generated evidence (credit card charges, phone records etc.) which does not exist, and this lack of evidence might have been obvious to the public.
The fact that airfones existed and worked says nothing either way about the possibility of making cell phone calls from the planes.
EDIT - actually some calls were suggested, at least in some versions, to have been made using airfones. Although others were definitely supposed to be cell phone calls. I believe that at least one of the planes was not equipped with airfones, but this is not an area I've dived into deeply.
The official theory is that they called on cell phones. Right? Not plane phones. That clarifies it.
Actually I think they have switched back and forth a bit. As per previous comment, this isn't an aspect of the evidence I really looked at hard. But the article Eric linked to suggested that Mark used an airfone for example. Other callers have been described as making cell phone calls and, as far as I recall some have been "corrected" from one technology to the other when the story didn't seem to add up.
I'm with you on the fear of causing offence. I just made a couple of comments on Rod Dreher's 9/11 post and have succeeded in deeply upsetting everyone.
I didn't realise anyone still believed the official narrative.
https://roddreher.substack.com/p/tearing-of-the-veil
I know plenty who swallowed that pablum. They won't budge on that, either.
They simply cannot believe their government would do that to them.
No matter how many videos of building 7 that you post or even videos of Bush actually SAYING that explosives were set in the towers.
It's the same as with covid.
Only works with Richard Nixon ‘s earth to moon model.
Ha!
Actually FWIW I think that call could have been made as recorded.
It would have been possible to switch the telephone call over to a radio link. And the lag is sufficient for the distance. The echo you hear briefly doesn't have a long enough lag to fit the most common cause of echo (remote end) though. But it is possible for echo to be generated at other places in the call closer to the caller.
Obviously the fact that this call might have happened as shown doesn't prove the moon landings did happen. But it's not great proof that they didn't.
It would have been even easier to make that call if the astronauts had been in Arizona.
Much easier from the point of view of having to fly the astronauts to the moon.
Not really any more difficult from the point of view, purely of the telephony technology required.
This story is similar to George Foreman naming all five sons George.
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Her book is brilliant. Had to look, sorry that she passed way after complications from heart surgery on June 13th, 2021. To me, she was doggedly relentless in her pursuit of truth (as you are). Her quote: "If you listen to the evidence carefully enough, it will speak to you and tell you exactly what happened. If you don't know what happened, then keep listening until you do. The evidence always tells the truth. The key is not to allow yourself to be distracted from what the evidence is telling you. Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic." Her book is well worth it.
The globalists have taken control of America. 9/11 was certainly a big part of re-orienting the military, and the “pandemic” re-oriented the economy, social/political values, and demographics. Secular “liberals” some of them well-meaning, have been on the tip of the sphere of this great reset since the 1960s. (I would also argue that everything that has occurred since the Immigration Act of 1965 is playing a powerful role.). I did not see this before 2020, but embracing God and Jesus as the truth, and following, is a powerful way to resist.
Liberals have been on the tip of the spear of the great reset since Satan's "non serviam". That is the origin of liberalism.
I agree with you. It's the Gnostic inversion of everything God wanted for us. Absolutely.