Fruits & vegetables don't HAVE TO be grown w/ pesticides; that's just the big agribusiness way of doing it; it's to minimize the amount of labor they have to hire, to put small, ecologically-friendly farmers out of business so the big agribusinesses can buy up their land for pennies on the dollar, & probably also to launder illegal drug money. Anyway, it's ELECTRICITY which is making everyone obese, sick, anxious, etc. & the more I hear this guy rant about food the more I wonder who's paying him to crunch through lovely snowy woods in a T-shirt (??) & rant about pesticides, & whether, in a couple of years, he'll still be ignoring the elephant in the room & ranting about how bugs are the only safe thing to eat.
The best book on the subject(electrical harm) I have found: 'The Invisible Rainbow' -Arthur Firstenberg. The best 'tool' for learning the truth about your environment(microwaves, routers, cell phones, cell phone towers,.... is the Trifield Meter(on Amazon, about $185). WORTH EVERY PENNY. EYEOPENING. Good tools dispel the lies.
Also, the Faraday fabric DOES NOT work. Mylar does(tested with the meter) Besthuntiner Survival blankets are excellent and come in different colors and styles. amazon
My aim is to just get back to the simplest, most direct, and most human and humane way of living as possible. That is quite a task in itself. But eating carnivore is actually becoming one of the pieces of that puzzle, where before my aim was all organic, regeneratively grown foods, but I couldn't get off the sugar and processed foods entirely. Now I can! And feel so much better for it.
Ahh, really you guys (some of you guys)? Everyone is not out to get you, bought by the system, or misinformation. This guy is telling his story. For real. There are SO, SO, SO many like it. Stop with your defensive reactions and just do more listening, observing, and experimenting yourself. I DO agree that when farming is done in a truly regenerative way, it doesn't have to be hard on the environment or other animals. So, I am with you on that point. He was comparing ethical meat farming principles with unethical fruit and vegetable farming principles. Not a fair or logical argument. But it is important to understand his point that most fruits and vegetables being produced and consumed are not farmed that way. And it seems so that they certainly are almost all gmo or hybridized (messed with by man), but then again, farm animals have been too to some degree.
I live on a 2000 acre certified organic cattle farm in the cold country in eastern Australia. We also have a certified organic composting enterprise. Plus we volunteer and are members of a local growers cooperative that runs a Saturday Farmers market selling sustainably raised fruit and veg and meats (and our compost). Some co-op members are vintners and also run a local wine bar and another member runs a cafe using all local produce from the our member growers. I’m sharing this to give everyone a living example of what is actually possible in small communities when we work together. That it’s still possible to live a different future. Blessings to the warriors, healers, farmers, cooks, butchers, backhoe operators, mechanics and all people of goodwill who are contributing to a simpler, saner, more benevolent world. 🙏🏻
Also, consider that everyone is on their own path of awakening (for lack of a better term coming to mind). Some start with food, some start with environment, some start with war, some start with money. It takes time to see how all angles matter and feed our problems. Let's give grace to each other and work together, and those sociopaths/psychopaths/satanists at the top will not matter anymore. Then we just need to remember to not allow them back in significance.
IMHO, complaining about spiritual malaise is still "blaming the victims", which is Propaganda 101. Don't blame the greed & deception of the ruling elites--the ppl who've invested in killing everyone else-- on their victims, please.
As a fourth generation wheat farmer, I too have been writing about this for decades. Although I no longer farm wheat, when I did I watched countless animals get plowed into the ground by the big farm machinery that grows our wheat, corn, barley, beans and so on. And that doesn't even take into account the billions of acres of habitat for wild animals that gets destroyed to grow those crops. Drive across the Midwest and what do you see? Billions of acres of farm land growing grains crops. All that was once grasslands that supported elk, deer, buffalo and countless other animals. People who are vegan out of concern for animals need to spend some time on a real farm to see just how deadly the production of their vegan food is.
Although I'm not a vegan, I don't eat any of those grain or bean crops...
Exactly! I used to row crop. It was a fairly sterile environment even in the 1980's and 90's but heir were birds and some other wildlife. Now these fields are as clean as a whistle. Few to no birds, their is nothing for them to eat, no bugs now weed seeds - nothing. I have converted my farm to pasture and now run a cow calf operation. Bugs, "weeds" birds, racoons, bees, bugs, possums, mink, cranes its a plethora of flora and fauna, each doing its own thing in a far more complicated ecosystem than we can imagine. I have a garden sure I have bugs, rabbits etcetera, guess what I am trying to kills or otherwise keep them out. Then we add this push for the idiotic wind and solar that are destroying 10's of thousands of diverse ecosystems all in the name of green energy. The local nuke plant and coal plant have grass and prairie surrounding the small foot print of the plant, these solar and wind projects nothing but sameness.
Yup, modern farming is a globalist enterprise. We can put them out of business by going local.
For the past 40 years my energy footprint has been pretty small... a few panels on the roof of my house. No predatory, globalist, energy giants needed.
By the way, the romanticized "ecosystem" of animals (of all species, down to insects as well) in nature is teeming with as much if not quantitatively more ferocious brutality than anything humans do. It's a system of rampant complex brutality that "works" in nature; but it's silly to worry about the brutality we may enable through our ways of seeking to feed more and more people as our global population increases, when Nature itself is riddled with brutality.
there was a japanese who did just that last name Fukuoka, I used to have his books but borrowed them gone, he inherited the conventional farm from his dad and being a chemist, decided to go all natural again. Doing his method in my yard as far as I can.
Big is never good. I recently saw a film about people who lived and still live in the Amazon rainforest. They garden amidst the forest, they do not cut it down. It was from an archeologist who fairly recently discovered that the Amazon forest had been lived in by many more people than first presumed. When I was a child in Belgium the wheat was not sprayed. There were multitudes of wildflowers (poppies, violets, chickweed etc) in the field and you could see animals like pheasants, hares, rabbits, mice... playing in them. No chemicals were used, only poop. When you mention that to some, they say Yuck, poop! we want chemicals... that is how it came to be. (I remember an old friend who refused to eat my unspoiled weeds because my dog and cats might have been pooped amidst them LOL)
There was this idea of creating fully automated buildings dedicated entirely to growing vegetables. They would use lots of electric energy and water and filtered air, so the only way to make this feasible is that electricity becomes much cheaper, which is not going to happen.
The idea is that the food being grown there would be pesticide-free and insecticide-free. This giant computer would control all entries an exits, so there could be no ingress from small animals. Not even humans, really. The machine's output would be computer-manufactured ready to eat or to store vegetable food, clean, packaged and free from any human contact that may contaminate it with human germs.
This fantasy is produced by the most radical forms of germophobia and misanthropy. It is doomed to fail. There is really nothing wrong, chemically or morally, in eating food grown or prepared by another human being.
Reality is a very high hurdle to the fantasies of some obsessive industrialists. That's why they wage war against reality: the Sun, the air, the water, the normality of the human experience. All those are economic rivals that destroy profits and must be destroyed.
I don't eat meat and don't care if others do. I have never, in real life, met any non-meat eater who has expressed the view that others should stop eating meat. In my personal experience, non-meat eaters could care less what others eat...I see on-line a constant attempt to create a war between meat eaters and non-meat eaters. I think it's literally another ploy by globalists to divide people. The fact that this divide is being manufactured is as clear to me as the manufactured divide being conjured up between the races. I urge people not to fall for it. (I don't mean any offense to you Ms. Farber. I love your work and you are clearly a person of sincere and good intentions.)
Yes… I’m not sure why, but it seems like another division ploy. Now anti-vaxxers should all be meat eaters? I haven’t had meat in probably 30 to 40 years. I don’t preach to others — even if they ask me about it. I will knock on wood as I say this, but I’m quite healthy. I never get flu shots or vaccines and I rarely get sick. I do not have depression. I enjoy my life as best I can in spite of the globalist agenda. I buy eggs from someone in my neighborhood. If I want dairy, I try to buy organic, but I absolutely will have a slice of pizza or an ice cream cone that I know is not organic. I don’t claim to be perfect. I know a lot of people say, buy organic and grass-fed, but I only know ONE person that actually does that. Instead of people worrying about someone that eats fruits, vegetables, and grains, why not worry about all the antibiotics, vaccines, and growth hormones that are in the meat they are eating? Why is one choice better?
total agreement , also from what i understand it takes ten pins off food for a cow to produce one pound of meat, so that pretty much would negate what the guy in the video claims
Being a meat eater, even red-meat eater (nutritionally speaking), doesn't mean grazing-only animals. It is also wild animals, like deer, elk, used to be bison, as well as smaller grazers like sheep, goats, rabbits, pigs and boar. So grazing isn't necessarily the only means. Plus, I wouldn't put a lot of stock into what today's establishment environmentalists' talking points are. Most turn out to be big, fat lies promoting the UN's/globalists' climate change narrative. Regenerative land and farming can support many more animals in an eco-friendly (even beneficial in that it regrows good soil depth and so many other things -- look up Joel Salatin) than industrial ag. The enemy is not meat-eater or vegan; it's inhumane, indirect and manipulated processes. It's working against nature rather than working with it.
Plus they don’t just eat grass, 80% of the soy grown in the world goes to animal production, similar for a lot of other massive mono-crops that this guy says is killing all the animals. So him eating meat is killing animals in more than one way by his own logic.
Yes, most of the calories that produce industrial meat come from soy and corn, both of which are essentially petroleum energy because the soil is depleted and they only grow from massive amounts of petroleum-based fertilizer. So whether you're eating the soy and corn, or the animal that was raised on soy and corn, the energy source is petroleum and mass destruction of the environment is involved.
yes there is a lot to the story, the land it takes , the water , and all of the toxicity associated with the food fed to the animals ,which doesn’t get much press . and the antibiotics the animals are inundated with, high cortisol levels when they perceive they are about to be slaughtered, so knowing all this makes it a lot easier to subsist on a meatless diet, especially if you are a creative cook
I met one. You reminded me of a funny story. A long time ago, I was working in Philadelphia, and knew several of the members of the Hare Krishna temple. Good people. So one day a buddy calls me up and says one of the Krishnas, a young woman who was teaching us some Indian vegetarian cooking secrets, needed our help at her apartment. We walk up the steps to her 3rd floor, 1-bedroom apartment, and we're greeted by a very excited and very young calf, desperately seeking a source of milk.
She'd been driving somewhere out in the farmland west of the city with a friend, and they decided to 'rescue' a young calf they saw near the road. They had no plan once they got it into her apartment.
Thing is , though, she never would've advocated violence against meat-eaters to stop them. Certainly a lot of meat-eaters would advocate violence against someone trying to rescue the cattle. There's a stark difference there.
Vegans condemn factory farming and suffering of animals. I also condemn "conventional" factory farming of fruit and vegetables. With both there is a better, an ancient way. Raise and grow yourself, hunt, forage etc. I think berries and herbs and vegetables have their place in a diet. Do what humans in your area have done for many centuries: eat what grows, lives and thrives there.
Weston Price wrote a book about physical degeneration when one goes away from ones ancestor's food. He took pics all over the world of people's teeth, how naturally eating people (no matter what as long as ancestral) were nice, with a wide cheekbone and when they went away from their diet, the face narrowed and the teeth decayed.
You are right, Celia. And it's not just non-human animals those pesticides and herbicides are affecting. Pregnant mothers across the U.S. (see momsacrossamerica.com) who had their breast milk tested in independent labs for glyphosate learned that the pregnant moms who ate conventional foods or conventional foods and some organic foods, all had glyphosate in their breast milk; whereas, those pregnant moms who ate organic only had no glyphosate in their breast milk. -- Monsanto and now Bayer have continued to fight those findings with lie after lie.
You can imagine how that same poisoned conventional food affects our pets and all of the animals (including humans) who eat pesticide and herbicide laden hay and feed.
Are you aware that many Big Ag farms spray their wheat crops (and other crops) with glyphosate to desiccate those crops more quickly? - Do a search, without the brackets, on [wheat, glyphosate, desiccat*] and you'll see all sorts of Big Ag industry lies about how spraying herbicides on various crops is considered beneficial to farmers.
Not to mention all the posion that falls from the skies in geoengineering. It's killing our trees and causing forest fires to burn way hotter and out of control. I'm sure it's making us and the plants and animals all sicker. I've been noticing the trees looking off for a number of years now, and increasingly so. THIS is a MAJOR environmental problem that will kill us all. Forget CO2 or methane or whatever other boogey-man the UN/globablist psychopaths want to divert our attention to.
Haven’t watched yet. A few years ago, a farmer who rotated soybeans and corn decided to grow hemp. It was glorious because the wildflowers came back like they’d been as a child & the beds, birds and butterflies came back. Sadly he moved the crop the next year because of theft.
I’m having a hard time finding food that doesn’t hurt, with this Apeel coating snuck in.
Yes. That Apeel is worrisome. I found that Trader Joe's is putting it on their smooth skinned fruits and vegetables. Their beautiful Organic on-the-vine tomatoes, which used to start spoiling within 4 to 5 days, now are looking freshly picked after 2 to 3 months. That has caused me to stop eating all smooth skinned fruits and vegetables, until I find some which are organic and still spoil normally. I wish there was some way to incarcerate Bill Gates in a straight jacket and throw away the key.
This is only relevant in an industrialised and American-centric setting and world-view. A nation/region of small organic farmers can feed themselves and have surplus for food-swops (no money exchange) and all done without any chemicals. A lot of the world is still like that. Decentralisation is the key.
I was vegan for 4 1/2 years. I was also vegetarian for a lot longer. I did it to save animal lives.
Then I saw the John Dutton character in Yellowstone tell a vegan character about how many animals die from the production of food crops.
Because I care more about lives and truth than ideology, I looked into it. Yes, it's true.
More confirmation came during a road trip, when we passed mile after mile of crop land during harvest. There were the vehicles moving along in the fields towing devices. A cloud of dust followed them... and so did the vultures.
New information should change our outlook and behavior. What with changing to a meat-based diet and dropping most of the carbs, my weight is nearly normalized, my mood is stabilized, my energy and mental clarity are up, my constant itching and seasonal allergies are almost nonexistent.
Sadly, any kind of diet involves the death of other lives. I wish it were not true. I wish I didn't have to eat because of this.
But that state of affairs will have to wait until the New Creation, when all will receive the life-sustaining energy we need, from the All-Bountiful One. His life, overflowingly given, not taken, for everything and everyone, will be the only one we need to feed us, and we will pass it on freely and joyfully to each other.
Check out Dr. Teruo Higa - he has a an easy product called EM for growing with probiotics instead of pesticides. The way you phrase this article is unnecessarily divisive because the problem is Big Chem Big Agri in either event. Instead, if we focused on unifying around supporting small farmers who use truly earth and human friendly practices - and living in gratitude - whether we eat animals everyday, occasional, or we don't at all...letting go of judgment, but focusing on the wholeness rather than the "sides."
He needs a lot of meat. But he lives in sacred gratitude with the animals.
She needs only occasional meat. But she lives in sacred gratitude toward the animals and plants she eats
The other person eats only plants but knows that mushrooms have been shown to have language...that plants can feel pain. And so eats with gratitude. And supplements with Taurine (and Choline)
All food is grown locally or as locally as possible and grown/nurtured with compassion and appreciation.
All people understand that everybody's body is different AND that human bodies are evolving, AND that Spirit is in all.
What a great thing it is to have a choice in what you eat. We are all different, I do me you do you, I can accommodate my meat eating friends and I even will enjoy a seafood dinner once in a while. The planet has what we all need to survive let’s not create more divide in our food choices too .
Dr. Joseph Mercola and the late Ronnie Cummins authors of The Truth About COVID-19, Exposing the Great Reset, Lockdowns, Vaccine Passports,and the New Normal. Both authors recommend the Organic Consumers Association.
Hi Celia, Dr. J. Mercola and the late Ronnie Cummins (Founder of OCA) highly recommend OCA for the best news on regenerative agriculture, politics of real food and much more.
Nuance needs to be part of all of this. Like: there is a big difference between modern high-gluten frankenwheat doused in pesticides, vs. organically grown, ancient low-gluten Einkorn fermented into sourdough (removes gluten and makes it more digestible) before baking. You can't just say 'all wheat is bad' or all grains are bad or all seed oils are bad (black seed oil and olive oil are really healthy, for example, just use them properly and don't cook / smoke them). There is nothing stopping you from learning about fermentation and Kefir etc and using that to prepare nuts and grains and stuff (the way people did a long time ago, by the way) so that the oxalates and phytates and gluten are not an issue (or cooking spinach before eating it to get rid of the oxalic acid for that matter). It's not a simple 'x is bad' equation. 'x' might be bad raw, but if you prepare it properly it might be ok.
Also, the American Indians are a good clue about the dangers of a 'carnivore' diet- when some of them (by necessity) were subsisting on only meat, and it was lean meat (only protein, no fat), they would waste away. They had a name for this, I don't remember. Anyway I know you were insistent about a lot of saturated fat, but people have been misled to think saturated fat is bad and they might try to eat only lean meat as a 'carnivore diet.' Very bad idea. You NEED the fat. You NEED cholesterol too.
Anyway about this current topic about animals harmed in vegetable farming. A quick anecdote that I can't forget.. I was living in Germany (military) and was driving home from work. A German was stopped on the road and flagged me down. He took me out a short way into a recently mowed field that was being prepared for cultivation (rapeseed, or canola, is a common crop there, and no way would I eat any of that stuff period, even if it's not GMO). But anyway there was a tiny fawn (a literal Bambi) sitting there, with all four of its lower legs chopped off and bloody, with bones sticking out of the ripped skin. The poor thing was still very alive. I tried to touch it to comfort it a little and it ran off on the stumps of its legs. The German called 'the authorities' and of course they didn't have any answer for this. So he had a collapsible baton and smashed it. (In case you don't know, small fawns hunker down and hide while the mother goes and browses. The mower must have gone over the fawn, and flipped it over or something and chopped its feet off).
So here is a horrible example of what must happen on a massive scale in industrial-scale plant cultivation. Of course, if everyone had small organic gardens tended by hand, then this would be different.
The fact is, it's a cruel world. Most things die horrible deaths on this planet (usually getting eaten alive, or maybe starving to death), and experience traumatic things. They idea that 'normal' is a life lacking any trauma is frankly absurd... The vast majority of humans, and animals, on this planet will not be so blessed... I think all we can really try to do is cause as little harm as possible, and be mindful of what we are doing, and if you kill an animal to survive then take the act very seriously and don't waste any of it. But there is no way to go through life without hurting other creatures (at least, if you want to survive).
In the Texas Hill Country (for example) the deer overpopulate so they eat everything and starve to death... Would natural predators eating them alive (or mowers chopping them up) be a better fate? It's a cruel world.
I left a long comment on the video, so if anyone wants to see it, it is there. i I have spoken about this numerous times here and on other stacks, no time for more now. Great to have this coming into our purview, always a good topic.
Fruits & vegetables don't HAVE TO be grown w/ pesticides; that's just the big agribusiness way of doing it; it's to minimize the amount of labor they have to hire, to put small, ecologically-friendly farmers out of business so the big agribusinesses can buy up their land for pennies on the dollar, & probably also to launder illegal drug money. Anyway, it's ELECTRICITY which is making everyone obese, sick, anxious, etc. & the more I hear this guy rant about food the more I wonder who's paying him to crunch through lovely snowy woods in a T-shirt (??) & rant about pesticides, & whether, in a couple of years, he'll still be ignoring the elephant in the room & ranting about how bugs are the only safe thing to eat.
You have articulated a very clear and compelling point.
Something isn’t right about this fella. I also agree electrical frequencies are doing more harm to the environment than most realise.
The best book on the subject(electrical harm) I have found: 'The Invisible Rainbow' -Arthur Firstenberg. The best 'tool' for learning the truth about your environment(microwaves, routers, cell phones, cell phone towers,.... is the Trifield Meter(on Amazon, about $185). WORTH EVERY PENNY. EYEOPENING. Good tools dispel the lies.
The Trifield Meter doesn't pick up very, very low rates of EMF--at least MINE doesn't--and very low rates are still harmful, just to different bodily functions. https://keithcutter.substack.com/p/the-need-for-synthetic-emf-exposure
Thank you for the recommendation for the EMF meter on Amazon
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Thanks for the advice and heads up William
My aim is to just get back to the simplest, most direct, and most human and humane way of living as possible. That is quite a task in itself. But eating carnivore is actually becoming one of the pieces of that puzzle, where before my aim was all organic, regeneratively grown foods, but I couldn't get off the sugar and processed foods entirely. Now I can! And feel so much better for it.
Ahh, really you guys (some of you guys)? Everyone is not out to get you, bought by the system, or misinformation. This guy is telling his story. For real. There are SO, SO, SO many like it. Stop with your defensive reactions and just do more listening, observing, and experimenting yourself. I DO agree that when farming is done in a truly regenerative way, it doesn't have to be hard on the environment or other animals. So, I am with you on that point. He was comparing ethical meat farming principles with unethical fruit and vegetable farming principles. Not a fair or logical argument. But it is important to understand his point that most fruits and vegetables being produced and consumed are not farmed that way. And it seems so that they certainly are almost all gmo or hybridized (messed with by man), but then again, farm animals have been too to some degree.
I live on a 2000 acre certified organic cattle farm in the cold country in eastern Australia. We also have a certified organic composting enterprise. Plus we volunteer and are members of a local growers cooperative that runs a Saturday Farmers market selling sustainably raised fruit and veg and meats (and our compost). Some co-op members are vintners and also run a local wine bar and another member runs a cafe using all local produce from the our member growers. I’m sharing this to give everyone a living example of what is actually possible in small communities when we work together. That it’s still possible to live a different future. Blessings to the warriors, healers, farmers, cooks, butchers, backhoe operators, mechanics and all people of goodwill who are contributing to a simpler, saner, more benevolent world. 🙏🏻
LOVE it!
Also, consider that everyone is on their own path of awakening (for lack of a better term coming to mind). Some start with food, some start with environment, some start with war, some start with money. It takes time to see how all angles matter and feed our problems. Let's give grace to each other and work together, and those sociopaths/psychopaths/satanists at the top will not matter anymore. Then we just need to remember to not allow them back in significance.
Most food is grown industrially, and you are being utterly silly to pretend pesticides are not a huge issue.
Electricity is also a huge issue, so are plastics, The Jab, Pig Farms , and myriad other problems.
The overactive imagination is yours.
He's clearly suffering from a hormonal imbalance created by his diet.
Was.
💯⚡️Electricity / Frequency (Radio, Radar, 5G EMF etc) ... read “The Invisible Rainbow”
The best book. Also , the Trifield Meter is the best tool(Amazon $185). Eyeopening.
IMHO, complaining about spiritual malaise is still "blaming the victims", which is Propaganda 101. Don't blame the greed & deception of the ruling elites--the ppl who've invested in killing everyone else-- on their victims, please.
Begone, O troll.
I've said it for decades, monocrop industrial ag is devastating to biodiversity including human community.
As a fourth generation wheat farmer, I too have been writing about this for decades. Although I no longer farm wheat, when I did I watched countless animals get plowed into the ground by the big farm machinery that grows our wheat, corn, barley, beans and so on. And that doesn't even take into account the billions of acres of habitat for wild animals that gets destroyed to grow those crops. Drive across the Midwest and what do you see? Billions of acres of farm land growing grains crops. All that was once grasslands that supported elk, deer, buffalo and countless other animals. People who are vegan out of concern for animals need to spend some time on a real farm to see just how deadly the production of their vegan food is.
Although I'm not a vegan, I don't eat any of those grain or bean crops...
Exactly! I used to row crop. It was a fairly sterile environment even in the 1980's and 90's but heir were birds and some other wildlife. Now these fields are as clean as a whistle. Few to no birds, their is nothing for them to eat, no bugs now weed seeds - nothing. I have converted my farm to pasture and now run a cow calf operation. Bugs, "weeds" birds, racoons, bees, bugs, possums, mink, cranes its a plethora of flora and fauna, each doing its own thing in a far more complicated ecosystem than we can imagine. I have a garden sure I have bugs, rabbits etcetera, guess what I am trying to kills or otherwise keep them out. Then we add this push for the idiotic wind and solar that are destroying 10's of thousands of diverse ecosystems all in the name of green energy. The local nuke plant and coal plant have grass and prairie surrounding the small foot print of the plant, these solar and wind projects nothing but sameness.
Yup, modern farming is a globalist enterprise. We can put them out of business by going local.
For the past 40 years my energy footprint has been pretty small... a few panels on the roof of my house. No predatory, globalist, energy giants needed.
By the way, the romanticized "ecosystem" of animals (of all species, down to insects as well) in nature is teeming with as much if not quantitatively more ferocious brutality than anything humans do. It's a system of rampant complex brutality that "works" in nature; but it's silly to worry about the brutality we may enable through our ways of seeking to feed more and more people as our global population increases, when Nature itself is riddled with brutality.
That's why I have always called for land reform, restoring small farms and relocalization, as that would improve health of the land and people.
there was a japanese who did just that last name Fukuoka, I used to have his books but borrowed them gone, he inherited the conventional farm from his dad and being a chemist, decided to go all natural again. Doing his method in my yard as far as I can.
Masanoba Fukuoka. If I remember correctly, he was vegetarian.
yes that is him. I think one book was called the last straw
One Straw Revolution. I have that book and The Natural Way of Farming.
Is that the guy that contends media science is lying and freezing binds nutrients from bioavailability and is in no way equal to fresh?
Seriously, I can't imagine what prompts people to dispute obvious reality.
And you are certainly wise to avoid eating substandard foods like beans and cultivated grains.
This was my first thought as well. Destruction of animal habitat in order to grow crops/plants is a huge contributor.
Big is never good. I recently saw a film about people who lived and still live in the Amazon rainforest. They garden amidst the forest, they do not cut it down. It was from an archeologist who fairly recently discovered that the Amazon forest had been lived in by many more people than first presumed. When I was a child in Belgium the wheat was not sprayed. There were multitudes of wildflowers (poppies, violets, chickweed etc) in the field and you could see animals like pheasants, hares, rabbits, mice... playing in them. No chemicals were used, only poop. When you mention that to some, they say Yuck, poop! we want chemicals... that is how it came to be. (I remember an old friend who refused to eat my unspoiled weeds because my dog and cats might have been pooped amidst them LOL)
I plant as many flowers as possible in and around my garden. The more bugs the better, to keep each other in check.
There was this idea of creating fully automated buildings dedicated entirely to growing vegetables. They would use lots of electric energy and water and filtered air, so the only way to make this feasible is that electricity becomes much cheaper, which is not going to happen.
The idea is that the food being grown there would be pesticide-free and insecticide-free. This giant computer would control all entries an exits, so there could be no ingress from small animals. Not even humans, really. The machine's output would be computer-manufactured ready to eat or to store vegetable food, clean, packaged and free from any human contact that may contaminate it with human germs.
This fantasy is produced by the most radical forms of germophobia and misanthropy. It is doomed to fail. There is really nothing wrong, chemically or morally, in eating food grown or prepared by another human being.
Reality is a very high hurdle to the fantasies of some obsessive industrialists. That's why they wage war against reality: the Sun, the air, the water, the normality of the human experience. All those are economic rivals that destroy profits and must be destroyed.
I don't eat meat and don't care if others do. I have never, in real life, met any non-meat eater who has expressed the view that others should stop eating meat. In my personal experience, non-meat eaters could care less what others eat...I see on-line a constant attempt to create a war between meat eaters and non-meat eaters. I think it's literally another ploy by globalists to divide people. The fact that this divide is being manufactured is as clear to me as the manufactured divide being conjured up between the races. I urge people not to fall for it. (I don't mean any offense to you Ms. Farber. I love your work and you are clearly a person of sincere and good intentions.)
Yes… I’m not sure why, but it seems like another division ploy. Now anti-vaxxers should all be meat eaters? I haven’t had meat in probably 30 to 40 years. I don’t preach to others — even if they ask me about it. I will knock on wood as I say this, but I’m quite healthy. I never get flu shots or vaccines and I rarely get sick. I do not have depression. I enjoy my life as best I can in spite of the globalist agenda. I buy eggs from someone in my neighborhood. If I want dairy, I try to buy organic, but I absolutely will have a slice of pizza or an ice cream cone that I know is not organic. I don’t claim to be perfect. I know a lot of people say, buy organic and grass-fed, but I only know ONE person that actually does that. Instead of people worrying about someone that eats fruits, vegetables, and grains, why not worry about all the antibiotics, vaccines, and growth hormones that are in the meat they are eating? Why is one choice better?
Yet here you are preaching.
Yikes. just agreeing with the prior comment. Sorry.
no need to apologize... imo.
total agreement , also from what i understand it takes ten pins off food for a cow to produce one pound of meat, so that pretty much would negate what the guy in the video claims
Being a meat eater, even red-meat eater (nutritionally speaking), doesn't mean grazing-only animals. It is also wild animals, like deer, elk, used to be bison, as well as smaller grazers like sheep, goats, rabbits, pigs and boar. So grazing isn't necessarily the only means. Plus, I wouldn't put a lot of stock into what today's establishment environmentalists' talking points are. Most turn out to be big, fat lies promoting the UN's/globalists' climate change narrative. Regenerative land and farming can support many more animals in an eco-friendly (even beneficial in that it regrows good soil depth and so many other things -- look up Joel Salatin) than industrial ag. The enemy is not meat-eater or vegan; it's inhumane, indirect and manipulated processes. It's working against nature rather than working with it.
10 pounds of grass, to make 1 pound of meat? sounds very reasonable;
scale up to millions and millions of lbs of meat and you can then see why the rainforests are being clear cut to facilitate grazing land
Plus they don’t just eat grass, 80% of the soy grown in the world goes to animal production, similar for a lot of other massive mono-crops that this guy says is killing all the animals. So him eating meat is killing animals in more than one way by his own logic.
Yes, most of the calories that produce industrial meat come from soy and corn, both of which are essentially petroleum energy because the soil is depleted and they only grow from massive amounts of petroleum-based fertilizer. So whether you're eating the soy and corn, or the animal that was raised on soy and corn, the energy source is petroleum and mass destruction of the environment is involved.
yes there is a lot to the story, the land it takes , the water , and all of the toxicity associated with the food fed to the animals ,which doesn’t get much press . and the antibiotics the animals are inundated with, high cortisol levels when they perceive they are about to be slaughtered, so knowing all this makes it a lot easier to subsist on a meatless diet, especially if you are a creative cook
pounds not pins
Yes, totally agree with you. All I see is the division.
I met one. You reminded me of a funny story. A long time ago, I was working in Philadelphia, and knew several of the members of the Hare Krishna temple. Good people. So one day a buddy calls me up and says one of the Krishnas, a young woman who was teaching us some Indian vegetarian cooking secrets, needed our help at her apartment. We walk up the steps to her 3rd floor, 1-bedroom apartment, and we're greeted by a very excited and very young calf, desperately seeking a source of milk.
She'd been driving somewhere out in the farmland west of the city with a friend, and they decided to 'rescue' a young calf they saw near the road. They had no plan once they got it into her apartment.
Thing is , though, she never would've advocated violence against meat-eaters to stop them. Certainly a lot of meat-eaters would advocate violence against someone trying to rescue the cattle. There's a stark difference there.
Vegans condemn factory farming and suffering of animals. I also condemn "conventional" factory farming of fruit and vegetables. With both there is a better, an ancient way. Raise and grow yourself, hunt, forage etc. I think berries and herbs and vegetables have their place in a diet. Do what humans in your area have done for many centuries: eat what grows, lives and thrives there.
Weston Price wrote a book about physical degeneration when one goes away from ones ancestor's food. He took pics all over the world of people's teeth, how naturally eating people (no matter what as long as ancestral) were nice, with a wide cheekbone and when they went away from their diet, the face narrowed and the teeth decayed.
It was the introduction of white flour and white sugar that dramatically changed physical appearance, within one generation.
You are right, Celia. And it's not just non-human animals those pesticides and herbicides are affecting. Pregnant mothers across the U.S. (see momsacrossamerica.com) who had their breast milk tested in independent labs for glyphosate learned that the pregnant moms who ate conventional foods or conventional foods and some organic foods, all had glyphosate in their breast milk; whereas, those pregnant moms who ate organic only had no glyphosate in their breast milk. -- Monsanto and now Bayer have continued to fight those findings with lie after lie.
You can imagine how that same poisoned conventional food affects our pets and all of the animals (including humans) who eat pesticide and herbicide laden hay and feed.
Are you aware that many Big Ag farms spray their wheat crops (and other crops) with glyphosate to desiccate those crops more quickly? - Do a search, without the brackets, on [wheat, glyphosate, desiccat*] and you'll see all sorts of Big Ag industry lies about how spraying herbicides on various crops is considered beneficial to farmers.
Horrifying. But we are in Exodus. We're getting it, and we are getting out of chemical Egypt. Meat or no meat.
Not to mention all the posion that falls from the skies in geoengineering. It's killing our trees and causing forest fires to burn way hotter and out of control. I'm sure it's making us and the plants and animals all sicker. I've been noticing the trees looking off for a number of years now, and increasingly so. THIS is a MAJOR environmental problem that will kill us all. Forget CO2 or methane or whatever other boogey-man the UN/globablist psychopaths want to divert our attention to.
Haven’t watched yet. A few years ago, a farmer who rotated soybeans and corn decided to grow hemp. It was glorious because the wildflowers came back like they’d been as a child & the beds, birds and butterflies came back. Sadly he moved the crop the next year because of theft.
I’m having a hard time finding food that doesn’t hurt, with this Apeel coating snuck in.
Looking forward to seeing this, thanks.
& silent spring needs a revival!
* bees not beds .
Yes. That Apeel is worrisome. I found that Trader Joe's is putting it on their smooth skinned fruits and vegetables. Their beautiful Organic on-the-vine tomatoes, which used to start spoiling within 4 to 5 days, now are looking freshly picked after 2 to 3 months. That has caused me to stop eating all smooth skinned fruits and vegetables, until I find some which are organic and still spoil normally. I wish there was some way to incarcerate Bill Gates in a straight jacket and throw away the key.
I wish India could arrest and try him & Africa , then out turn .
& get him up to date on all vaccines, all at once.
I can hear him squealing now. <g>
BRAVO on this post! The truth!!!
Thank you!
This is only relevant in an industrialised and American-centric setting and world-view. A nation/region of small organic farmers can feed themselves and have surplus for food-swops (no money exchange) and all done without any chemicals. A lot of the world is still like that. Decentralisation is the key.
A big fat glorious BINGO, Celia!
I was vegan for 4 1/2 years. I was also vegetarian for a lot longer. I did it to save animal lives.
Then I saw the John Dutton character in Yellowstone tell a vegan character about how many animals die from the production of food crops.
Because I care more about lives and truth than ideology, I looked into it. Yes, it's true.
More confirmation came during a road trip, when we passed mile after mile of crop land during harvest. There were the vehicles moving along in the fields towing devices. A cloud of dust followed them... and so did the vultures.
New information should change our outlook and behavior. What with changing to a meat-based diet and dropping most of the carbs, my weight is nearly normalized, my mood is stabilized, my energy and mental clarity are up, my constant itching and seasonal allergies are almost nonexistent.
Sadly, any kind of diet involves the death of other lives. I wish it were not true. I wish I didn't have to eat because of this.
But that state of affairs will have to wait until the New Creation, when all will receive the life-sustaining energy we need, from the All-Bountiful One. His life, overflowingly given, not taken, for everything and everyone, will be the only one we need to feed us, and we will pass it on freely and joyfully to each other.
Wonderfully stated.
Pesticides kill bees. Bees pollinate crops.
Without bees, we all die.
Check out Dr. Teruo Higa - he has a an easy product called EM for growing with probiotics instead of pesticides. The way you phrase this article is unnecessarily divisive because the problem is Big Chem Big Agri in either event. Instead, if we focused on unifying around supporting small farmers who use truly earth and human friendly practices - and living in gratitude - whether we eat animals everyday, occasional, or we don't at all...letting go of judgment, but focusing on the wholeness rather than the "sides."
He needs a lot of meat. But he lives in sacred gratitude with the animals.
She needs only occasional meat. But she lives in sacred gratitude toward the animals and plants she eats
The other person eats only plants but knows that mushrooms have been shown to have language...that plants can feel pain. And so eats with gratitude. And supplements with Taurine (and Choline)
All food is grown locally or as locally as possible and grown/nurtured with compassion and appreciation.
All people understand that everybody's body is different AND that human bodies are evolving, AND that Spirit is in all.
What a great thing it is to have a choice in what you eat. We are all different, I do me you do you, I can accommodate my meat eating friends and I even will enjoy a seafood dinner once in a while. The planet has what we all need to survive let’s not create more divide in our food choices too .
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Nuance needs to be part of all of this. Like: there is a big difference between modern high-gluten frankenwheat doused in pesticides, vs. organically grown, ancient low-gluten Einkorn fermented into sourdough (removes gluten and makes it more digestible) before baking. You can't just say 'all wheat is bad' or all grains are bad or all seed oils are bad (black seed oil and olive oil are really healthy, for example, just use them properly and don't cook / smoke them). There is nothing stopping you from learning about fermentation and Kefir etc and using that to prepare nuts and grains and stuff (the way people did a long time ago, by the way) so that the oxalates and phytates and gluten are not an issue (or cooking spinach before eating it to get rid of the oxalic acid for that matter). It's not a simple 'x is bad' equation. 'x' might be bad raw, but if you prepare it properly it might be ok.
Also, the American Indians are a good clue about the dangers of a 'carnivore' diet- when some of them (by necessity) were subsisting on only meat, and it was lean meat (only protein, no fat), they would waste away. They had a name for this, I don't remember. Anyway I know you were insistent about a lot of saturated fat, but people have been misled to think saturated fat is bad and they might try to eat only lean meat as a 'carnivore diet.' Very bad idea. You NEED the fat. You NEED cholesterol too.
Anyway about this current topic about animals harmed in vegetable farming. A quick anecdote that I can't forget.. I was living in Germany (military) and was driving home from work. A German was stopped on the road and flagged me down. He took me out a short way into a recently mowed field that was being prepared for cultivation (rapeseed, or canola, is a common crop there, and no way would I eat any of that stuff period, even if it's not GMO). But anyway there was a tiny fawn (a literal Bambi) sitting there, with all four of its lower legs chopped off and bloody, with bones sticking out of the ripped skin. The poor thing was still very alive. I tried to touch it to comfort it a little and it ran off on the stumps of its legs. The German called 'the authorities' and of course they didn't have any answer for this. So he had a collapsible baton and smashed it. (In case you don't know, small fawns hunker down and hide while the mother goes and browses. The mower must have gone over the fawn, and flipped it over or something and chopped its feet off).
So here is a horrible example of what must happen on a massive scale in industrial-scale plant cultivation. Of course, if everyone had small organic gardens tended by hand, then this would be different.
The fact is, it's a cruel world. Most things die horrible deaths on this planet (usually getting eaten alive, or maybe starving to death), and experience traumatic things. They idea that 'normal' is a life lacking any trauma is frankly absurd... The vast majority of humans, and animals, on this planet will not be so blessed... I think all we can really try to do is cause as little harm as possible, and be mindful of what we are doing, and if you kill an animal to survive then take the act very seriously and don't waste any of it. But there is no way to go through life without hurting other creatures (at least, if you want to survive).
In the Texas Hill Country (for example) the deer overpopulate so they eat everything and starve to death... Would natural predators eating them alive (or mowers chopping them up) be a better fate? It's a cruel world.
I left a long comment on the video, so if anyone wants to see it, it is there. i I have spoken about this numerous times here and on other stacks, no time for more now. Great to have this coming into our purview, always a good topic.