Interview With Lawyer Daniel Machover, Whose Parents Were Israeli Citizens Who Opposed Events In Palestine, Left After Six Day War; Israel Accuses South Africa Of "Advocating For The Devil."
And that factotum Kirby's response at the presser yesterday shows the US is also worried about this. Not about anyone actually going to prison, but further international isolation. That being said Francis Boyle, who did argue successfully on behalf of Bosnia-Hercegovina, has stated that he thinks South Africa has presented an open and shut case... We shall see. Somehow, Israel & the US seem to wriggle out of these things but maybe this is another signal that whatever greater powers run the show are ready to turn the wheel into another age...
Well, Kirby has a resting-bitch-that-worries-face anyway... I doubt anyone in the Biden admin is overly concerned about this, nor would any administration in modern times. And the US has not signed the ICJ charter anyway, as if that document matters much these days...
Most certainly - and making electricity a now and again thing for everyone, and running down infrastructure of schools and hospitals. So in many ways this charge is ironic. And yet, the scale, speed and enunciated intentionality of the Israelis' campaign against Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank is the top of Everest compared to the foothills of Nepal so to speak where the ANC stumbles around in myopic incompetence with - yes - areas of sadistic intent such as the allowing of farm murders.
I agree and was shocked by this "pot calling the kettle black" statement from South Africa. I do believe what they said about Israel, but it coming from them shocked me.
Seriously, after what the ranchers did to the black population, you are pulling out the G card for the Boer? Are you from SA? I'm not, but I've worked and played there enough to know what you say is BS. The government may be corrupt, but it's not because of that.
All I know is what Ive watched and read, Israel is conducting war crimes against the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip and it must stop. What are the Israeli supporters going to say when all of Gaza is dead and they start to build what they want there, are people still going to say, "good job Bibi"
It seems that in their mind there is only one idea: the Hamas terrorists have murdered very many thousands of peaceful and harmless Israelis, and therefore, extermination of all Palestinians is proportionate and just and it must be done at any cost.
From Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, auto-translated from Hebrew:
“The police are having difficulty locating victims of sexual assault or witnesses to acts from the Hamas attack, and are unable to connect the existing evidence with the victims described in it.”
Those of us who have pointed out the flaws in these sexual violence claims have been accused of rape denial.
So it looks like all of these lies (40 beheaded babies, baby baked in oven, mass rapes) were all used as emotional and political cover for genocide. Rape is horrible, but lying about rape for the sole purpose of garnering support for genocide is just pure EVIL!
Yes, they killed their own. Max Blumenthal has also covered this extensively. He and Aaron Mate have been doing an outstanding job investigating and exposing the Israeli atrocity propaganda. What I'm not clear about was whether it was an accidental error (commanders didn't know what they were doing, so just shoot everything, or was it deliberate to just get the death toll up, so they could use it emotionally and politically as justification for their pre-planned genocide). They have done this before (they are willing to kill their own in false flags to move their agenda forward).
Also, an Israeli and former Israeli studied some of the footage from 10/7 and they say there was clearly at least one ISRAELI (Mossad? Shin Bet?) speaking HEBREW and directing Hamas:
The ‘Blue Shirts’ of October 7. The Wall of Jericho, “The Mysterious Case of the Men with the Light Blue Shirts” Some of the Hamas field Commanders on the day of the attack were NOT Palestinians or even Arabs & at least one was almost certainly Israeli!
It is extraordinarily important to be clear about where one's numbers and claims originate., especially in the Middle East conflict. Too often the "genocidal" stats that people keep quoting come from the Gaza Health Ministry, i.e., Hamas, a terrorist organization that actually does kill its own people, has over decades mastered exploiting pre-existing Jew hatred,, and whose own Charter states the reason for its existence is the genocide of Jews. This is nothing new, but has somehow taken on a new order of magnitude with October 7th:
No UN staff were killed, either, and no journalists, is that right? There have been no calls for genocide by the Israelis, either - true or false? Time to get acquainted with Euro Monitor and Israeli media. PJmedia was good last time it was still called Pajamas Media, and that is years ago.
In harrowing detail, NYT reports on weaponization of rape, sexual violence on Oct. 7
Dec 29, 2023
"...The two-month investigation includes interviews with more than 150 witnesses, medical personnel, first responders, soldiers, rape counselors, and government officials, along with the scanning of video footage, photographs and GPS data from cell phones..."
From Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, auto-translated from Hebrew:
“The police are having difficulty locating victims of sexual assault or witnesses to acts from the Hamas attack, and are unable to connect the existing evidence with the victims described in it.”
Yes, that is the quote I am responding to. It is being viciously taken out of context. Please read the article I posted. The NY Times - no fan of Israel - had no trouble finding witnesses, over a150 of them, and notes the trouble locating actual victims is that most of them are dead. Here I quote the NYT directly:
"...A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7. Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated."
"And The Times interviewed several soldiers and volunteer medics who together described finding more than 30 bodies of women and girls in and around the rave site and in two kibbutzim in a similar state as Ms. Abdush’s — legs spread, clothes torn off, signs of abuse in their genital areas. Many of the accounts are difficult to bear, and the visual evidence is disturbing to see."
"The Times also viewed a video, provided by the Israeli military, showing two dead Israeli soldiers at a base near Gaza who appeared to have been shot directly in their vaginas."
"Investigators with Israel’s top national police unit, Lahav 433, have been steadily gathering evidence but they have not put a number on how many women were raped, saying that most are dead — and buried — and that they will never know. No survivors have spoken publicly."
"A combination of chaos, enormous grief and Jewish religious duties meant that many bodies were buried as quickly as possible. Most were never examined, and in some cases, like at the rave scene, where more than 360 people were slaughtered in a few hours, the bodies were hauled away by the truckload."
"There are at least three women and one man who were sexually assaulted and survived, according to Gil Horev, a spokesman for Israel’s Ministry of Welfare and Social Affairs. “None of them has been willing to come physically for treatment,” he said. Two therapists said they were working with a woman who was gang raped at the rave and was in no condition to talk to investigators or reporters."
We'll have to agree to disagree. Your two links are the same story, the first link originating with the second link. I cannot put trust in stories that are sourced to the Palestinian Authority (Hamas - see my comment to Marty above), and groups like "The Short String, an anonymous group of Palestinian journalists in Israel..." As I scan through both sites, they are essentially devoted to framing Palestinians as eternal victims of alleged Israeli aggression; victims of an alleged decades-old "ethnic genocide" that somehow sees the continued growth of the Palestinian population. Go figure. As Robert Spencer points out, never once do these sites discuss or investigate the role Islamic jihad theology and ideology play in the Middle East or other global conflicts, let alone the conditions in Gaza. It is the elephant in the Middle East Living Room, and to omit it is to confuse and maintain the "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict.
Great historical accounting Celia, and the vid is fascinating. I grew up in those times, and am almost a Jew, (mom was Irish Catholic, so there), and I felt the same for years, and even worked on a one-state solution once by designing potential flags for the new country - ha! But that was then, and this is now... fucked up royally. One would have thought that in all these years after the 6-dayer, we now have a 6-yearer or more on our hands.
Where has the media been for decades? (obviously controlled by them, so nobody hears about the atrocities they have been committing for years and years).
Hussein Masalmeh, 39, had 19 years stolen by Israel. he was freed in critical condition and died shortly after. This is deliberate and this is the the fate of hundreds of former captives. What kind of society does that?
Tortured him. Made him drink gasoline. Then lit him on fire… from the inside…Police then harassed his family beating and arresting his cousins. What kind society is this?
Genocide is the game, it's a land grab, oil and gas is the game, our so called prime minster father law along with his wife are up to there neck, in rights and shares, in the company, always Follow the money, you get the Truth?
I live in South Africa. The ANC itself is a terrorist organisation.
The audacity to call out Israel as intent or incitement to commit genocide, is ludicrous.
For one they connived with BMGF& WEF & WHO (WHO is run by a terrorist) and are all unelected entities (so much for rainbow democracy) to do the very same by agreeing to destroy the economy and the lives of thousands by implementing COVID19 restrictions and taking away civil liberty.
Secondly using a lie about a non-existing virus to implement the injection of toxins masquerading as vaccinations on millions of their citizens.
That is clear intent by the ANC Led Communist Government of committing Genocide.
Now, consider that the same Communist led ANC Government took away the protection from terrorists that was afforded to farmers (mainly White Afrikaners) by the previous régime. Why because they feared any opposition to their monopoly on force. The disbanded the Kommando (civilian militia).
Now those very farmers are suffering a massive attacks on their private property and are being murdered and tortured in the hundreds by gangs of former terrorists from the armed wing called MK. They have done absolutely nothing to protect that community.
That in my book is intent to commit Genocide.
The ANC police force too is unable to protect their citizens and the citizens have been force to pay Private Security Companies to protect the lives and properties of citizens in the towns and Cities.
The ICJ should consider this before admonishing Israel right to defend its citizens and visitors attending music festivals from further horrendous attacks by HAMAS terrorists.
Israel's harsh response is the right one and justifiable as the disgusting HAMAS terrorists use the civilians and the civilian hospitals , schools and other infrastructure and neighbourhood as shields against the security forces of Israel. They are the terrorists pawns, sacrificial lambs.
The numbers game of the so-called Health agency of GAZA is an obvious fraud and is run by HAMAS. The data is highly questionable and cannot be verified. There is also no information concerning the losses of HAMAS terrorists. That must be obvious to any court to not accept the numbers claimed as support of genocide.
The claim by South Africa is a complete fabrication, fallacious and an outright lie.
Jews see us as herd animals and they believe it is their fate and duty to control and herd the gentiles or goyim as they call us (Hebrew for herd animals or cows)
. . . but not the Holocaust. For details, see Norman Finkelstein, "The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering."
But here's the problem: in addition to milking the Holocaust for billions, they use it as a carte blanche for committing crimes, or, as Gold Meir put it: "After the Holocaust the Jews have the right to do whatever they want." https://youtu.be/EnaacT4eBrA?si=bbq1B25VN2OQm64O&t=261
Now we're being tested by their unprecedented destruction of Palestine and its people whether we will let them get away with it again.
And that factotum Kirby's response at the presser yesterday shows the US is also worried about this. Not about anyone actually going to prison, but further international isolation. That being said Francis Boyle, who did argue successfully on behalf of Bosnia-Hercegovina, has stated that he thinks South Africa has presented an open and shut case... We shall see. Somehow, Israel & the US seem to wriggle out of these things but maybe this is another signal that whatever greater powers run the show are ready to turn the wheel into another age...
Well, Kirby has a resting-bitch-that-worries-face anyway... I doubt anyone in the Biden admin is overly concerned about this, nor would any administration in modern times. And the US has not signed the ICJ charter anyway, as if that document matters much these days...
Meanwhile corrupt South African government is genociding Boer farmers.
Most certainly - and making electricity a now and again thing for everyone, and running down infrastructure of schools and hospitals. So in many ways this charge is ironic. And yet, the scale, speed and enunciated intentionality of the Israelis' campaign against Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank is the top of Everest compared to the foothills of Nepal so to speak where the ANC stumbles around in myopic incompetence with - yes - areas of sadistic intent such as the allowing of farm murders.
Phuck !!! The evil that’s been unleashed on this planet - ?
I suspect it’s always been here, it’s just the “unveiling” is occurring at such a speed, it’s beyond overwhelming !
I agree and was shocked by this "pot calling the kettle black" statement from South Africa. I do believe what they said about Israel, but it coming from them shocked me.
Seriously, after what the ranchers did to the black population, you are pulling out the G card for the Boer? Are you from SA? I'm not, but I've worked and played there enough to know what you say is BS. The government may be corrupt, but it's not because of that.
All I know is what Ive watched and read, Israel is conducting war crimes against the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip and it must stop. What are the Israeli supporters going to say when all of Gaza is dead and they start to build what they want there, are people still going to say, "good job Bibi"
My favorite part is that my tax money is funding the genocide.
Yes, the would say that.
It seems that in their mind there is only one idea: the Hamas terrorists have murdered very many thousands of peaceful and harmless Israelis, and therefore, extermination of all Palestinians is proportionate and just and it must be done at any cost.
This way of thinking is both irrational and evil.
This is when Mindwar becomes Democide.
Sort of off-topic, but more atrocity propaganda is getting exposed:
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1742952189772108214
From Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, auto-translated from Hebrew:
“The police are having difficulty locating victims of sexual assault or witnesses to acts from the Hamas attack, and are unable to connect the existing evidence with the victims described in it.”
Those of us who have pointed out the flaws in these sexual violence claims have been accused of rape denial.
So it looks like all of these lies (40 beheaded babies, baby baked in oven, mass rapes) were all used as emotional and political cover for genocide. Rape is horrible, but lying about rape for the sole purpose of garnering support for genocide is just pure EVIL!
I heard Scott Ritter say that "80% of the people who died on Oct 7th were killed by Israel (IDF)".
Yes, they killed their own. Max Blumenthal has also covered this extensively. He and Aaron Mate have been doing an outstanding job investigating and exposing the Israeli atrocity propaganda. What I'm not clear about was whether it was an accidental error (commanders didn't know what they were doing, so just shoot everything, or was it deliberate to just get the death toll up, so they could use it emotionally and politically as justification for their pre-planned genocide). They have done this before (they are willing to kill their own in false flags to move their agenda forward).
Also, an Israeli and former Israeli studied some of the footage from 10/7 and they say there was clearly at least one ISRAELI (Mossad? Shin Bet?) speaking HEBREW and directing Hamas:
The ‘Blue Shirts’ of October 7. The Wall of Jericho, “The Mysterious Case of the Men with the Light Blue Shirts” Some of the Hamas field Commanders on the day of the attack were NOT Palestinians or even Arabs & at least one was almost certainly Israeli!
https://www.globalresearch.ca/blue-shirts-october-7/5842785
By Michael Ginsburg (he deserves a follow at this substack: https://actionabletruth.substack.com/p/blue-shirts-october-7
It is extraordinarily important to be clear about where one's numbers and claims originate., especially in the Middle East conflict. Too often the "genocidal" stats that people keep quoting come from the Gaza Health Ministry, i.e., Hamas, a terrorist organization that actually does kill its own people, has over decades mastered exploiting pre-existing Jew hatred,, and whose own Charter states the reason for its existence is the genocide of Jews. This is nothing new, but has somehow taken on a new order of magnitude with October 7th:
https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2023/12/05/everybody-is-upset-about-civilian-casualties-in-gaza-but-where-do-the-numbers-come-from-n4924500
Everybody Is Upset About Civilian Casualties in Gaza, but Where Do the Numbers Come From?
ROBERT SPENCER
DECEMBER 05, 2023
No UN staff were killed, either, and no journalists, is that right? There have been no calls for genocide by the Israelis, either - true or false? Time to get acquainted with Euro Monitor and Israeli media. PJmedia was good last time it was still called Pajamas Media, and that is years ago.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-harrowing-detail-nyt-shows-weaponization-of-rape-sexual-violence-during-oct-7/
In harrowing detail, NYT reports on weaponization of rape, sexual violence on Oct. 7
Dec 29, 2023
"...The two-month investigation includes interviews with more than 150 witnesses, medical personnel, first responders, soldiers, rape counselors, and government officials, along with the scanning of video footage, photographs and GPS data from cell phones..."
The original article has a paywall:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html
‘Screams Without Words’: How Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence on Oct. 7
By Jeffrey Gettleman, Anat Schwartz and Adam Sella
Dec 28, 2023
From Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, auto-translated from Hebrew:
“The police are having difficulty locating victims of sexual assault or witnesses to acts from the Hamas attack, and are unable to connect the existing evidence with the victims described in it.”
Yes, that is the quote I am responding to. It is being viciously taken out of context. Please read the article I posted. The NY Times - no fan of Israel - had no trouble finding witnesses, over a150 of them, and notes the trouble locating actual victims is that most of them are dead. Here I quote the NYT directly:
"...A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7. Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated."
"And The Times interviewed several soldiers and volunteer medics who together described finding more than 30 bodies of women and girls in and around the rave site and in two kibbutzim in a similar state as Ms. Abdush’s — legs spread, clothes torn off, signs of abuse in their genital areas. Many of the accounts are difficult to bear, and the visual evidence is disturbing to see."
"The Times also viewed a video, provided by the Israeli military, showing two dead Israeli soldiers at a base near Gaza who appeared to have been shot directly in their vaginas."
"Investigators with Israel’s top national police unit, Lahav 433, have been steadily gathering evidence but they have not put a number on how many women were raped, saying that most are dead — and buried — and that they will never know. No survivors have spoken publicly."
"A combination of chaos, enormous grief and Jewish religious duties meant that many bodies were buried as quickly as possible. Most were never examined, and in some cases, like at the rave scene, where more than 360 people were slaughtered in a few hours, the bodies were hauled away by the truckload."
"There are at least three women and one man who were sexually assaulted and survived, according to Gil Horev, a spokesman for Israel’s Ministry of Welfare and Social Affairs. “None of them has been willing to come physically for treatment,” he said. Two therapists said they were working with a woman who was gang raped at the rave and was in no condition to talk to investigators or reporters."
Keep shilling, but no good will come out of it.
Two reports debunk New York Times ‘investigative report’ of mass rape on October 7th:
https://israelpalestinenews.org/two-reports-debunk-new-york-times-investigative-report-of-mass-rape-on-october-7th/
Family of key case in New York Times October 7 sexual violence report renounces story, says reporters manipulated them:
https://mondoweiss.net/2024/01/family-of-key-case-in-new-york-times-october-7-sexual-violence-report-renounces-story-says-reporters-manipulated-them/
We'll have to agree to disagree. Your two links are the same story, the first link originating with the second link. I cannot put trust in stories that are sourced to the Palestinian Authority (Hamas - see my comment to Marty above), and groups like "The Short String, an anonymous group of Palestinian journalists in Israel..." As I scan through both sites, they are essentially devoted to framing Palestinians as eternal victims of alleged Israeli aggression; victims of an alleged decades-old "ethnic genocide" that somehow sees the continued growth of the Palestinian population. Go figure. As Robert Spencer points out, never once do these sites discuss or investigate the role Islamic jihad theology and ideology play in the Middle East or other global conflicts, let alone the conditions in Gaza. It is the elephant in the Middle East Living Room, and to omit it is to confuse and maintain the "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict.
Great historical accounting Celia, and the vid is fascinating. I grew up in those times, and am almost a Jew, (mom was Irish Catholic, so there), and I felt the same for years, and even worked on a one-state solution once by designing potential flags for the new country - ha! But that was then, and this is now... fucked up royally. One would have thought that in all these years after the 6-dayer, we now have a 6-yearer or more on our hands.
Stfu kike bitch
too hot
Thank you for my first racial slut on substack! techBros Must Die! (tm), never forget.
Your mother is a race traitor
too hot
Well, she's dead, died in a care facility during COVID, so there is that... techBros Must Die! (tm), never forget.
If you ask my opinion, very hard to come to defense of people being called "human animals" that live only to kill
Meanwhile, Genocide Watch classes South Africa as Stage Six in it's genocide against whites...
The level of EVIL is hard to wrap your head around:
"Absolutely Unimaginable": Children in Gaza Face Amputations Without Anesthesia, Death & Disease
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrWCv7bV_U
Where has the media been for decades? (obviously controlled by them, so nobody hears about the atrocities they have been committing for years and years).
https://twitter.com/AdameMedia/status/1737851573093704114
Hussein Masalmeh, 39, had 19 years stolen by Israel. he was freed in critical condition and died shortly after. This is deliberate and this is the the fate of hundreds of former captives. What kind of society does that?
https://twitter.com/AdameMedia/status/1729837302283710690
Israel brutalized 13-yo Autistic, broken skull, innocent, psychological and physical torture.
https://twitter.com/AdameMedia/status/1735210176406298751
Tortured him. Made him drink gasoline. Then lit him on fire… from the inside…Police then harassed his family beating and arresting his cousins. What kind society is this?
Genocide is the game, it's a land grab, oil and gas is the game, our so called prime minster father law along with his wife are up to there neck, in rights and shares, in the company, always Follow the money, you get the Truth?
I don't suppose any of you have noticed it's not just Israel and Jews that are the prime focus of Hate.
It's White People every bit as much.
In essence, I agree that they don't ultimately care but it's still something they'll have to deal with...
GOOD NEWS
Thank you, Celia.
January 11th and 12th can't come sooner!
I live in South Africa. The ANC itself is a terrorist organisation.
The audacity to call out Israel as intent or incitement to commit genocide, is ludicrous.
For one they connived with BMGF& WEF & WHO (WHO is run by a terrorist) and are all unelected entities (so much for rainbow democracy) to do the very same by agreeing to destroy the economy and the lives of thousands by implementing COVID19 restrictions and taking away civil liberty.
Secondly using a lie about a non-existing virus to implement the injection of toxins masquerading as vaccinations on millions of their citizens.
That is clear intent by the ANC Led Communist Government of committing Genocide.
Now, consider that the same Communist led ANC Government took away the protection from terrorists that was afforded to farmers (mainly White Afrikaners) by the previous régime. Why because they feared any opposition to their monopoly on force. The disbanded the Kommando (civilian militia).
Now those very farmers are suffering a massive attacks on their private property and are being murdered and tortured in the hundreds by gangs of former terrorists from the armed wing called MK. They have done absolutely nothing to protect that community.
That in my book is intent to commit Genocide.
The ANC police force too is unable to protect their citizens and the citizens have been force to pay Private Security Companies to protect the lives and properties of citizens in the towns and Cities.
The ICJ should consider this before admonishing Israel right to defend its citizens and visitors attending music festivals from further horrendous attacks by HAMAS terrorists.
Israel's harsh response is the right one and justifiable as the disgusting HAMAS terrorists use the civilians and the civilian hospitals , schools and other infrastructure and neighbourhood as shields against the security forces of Israel. They are the terrorists pawns, sacrificial lambs.
The numbers game of the so-called Health agency of GAZA is an obvious fraud and is run by HAMAS. The data is highly questionable and cannot be verified. There is also no information concerning the losses of HAMAS terrorists. That must be obvious to any court to not accept the numbers claimed as support of genocide.
The claim by South Africa is a complete fabrication, fallacious and an outright lie.
Jews see us as herd animals and they believe it is their fate and duty to control and herd the gentiles or goyim as they call us (Hebrew for herd animals or cows)
What's the difference between the holocaust and a cow?
After 75 years, you stop milking a cow.
. . . but not the Holocaust. For details, see Norman Finkelstein, "The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering."
But here's the problem: in addition to milking the Holocaust for billions, they use it as a carte blanche for committing crimes, or, as Gold Meir put it: "After the Holocaust the Jews have the right to do whatever they want." https://youtu.be/EnaacT4eBrA?si=bbq1B25VN2OQm64O&t=261
Now we're being tested by their unprecedented destruction of Palestine and its people whether we will let them get away with it again.