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Benj's avatar

Kind of like how Dr Leana Wen was an eyewitness at the Boston Marathon bombing, or how David Hogg looks *exactly* like Adam Lanza...

or how the cops wouldn't enter, at Uvalde

or how the sirens didn't deploy in Lahaina

or how NORAD didn't/couldn't function on 9/11

or how the most trained, most competent, most highly funded and intelled security force on the planet couldn't find their own asses on 10/7

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JQP's avatar

But when you post statements from IDF soldiers refuting Netanyahu's "Official Oct 7 narrative" some people get really mad at you! As the saying goes it is much EASIER to deceive someone than it is to convince them that they have been deceived!!

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Edward Bernaysauce's avatar

By way of deception thou shalt do war (huh) Yeah

(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothin'

Uh-huh, uh-huh... say it again

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Or that whole Las Vegas shooting! The hugest EVER. And it was out of the headlines within 2 weeks. Tons of weird stories came out of it, too. A friend of mine went to the site the day after and said there were no holes in the tarps/sheeting that had covered the chain link fences that had been in place. Odd, that!

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MDickie's avatar

Inconvenient truths.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

David Hogg doesn't look just like Adam Lanza. There are plausible possibilities and then there are downright ridiculous conspiracy theories...

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Tim Groves's avatar

Really!

Would you say they both had sanpaku eyes?

Or are they just glad to see me?

https://x.com/InfidelTiger/status/1017299210910044160/photo/1

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Francis/Clare's avatar

I hope you're joking.

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Tim Groves's avatar

I would never joke about David Hogg.

He seems such an earnest and serious young man; I fear for his sanity.

Apparently, a lot of people feared Adam Lanza's insanity, and with good reason. But it's too late to do anything about that now.

There is a certain resemblance between the faces in those two photos, don't you agree? But, never having met either Adam or David, and aware that photos can be manipulated, I really couldn't say. I suppose I should just shut up and trust the mass media to feed me the relevant factoids.

In another coincidence, both boys are tied up in the perennial American gun debate. But that's none of my business.

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Edward Bernaysauce's avatar

yikes and larps

and dodge and burn,

david hogg is a child of the FBI

adam lanza- but a figment

(sorry that didn't rhyme... but poetry doesn't pay much!)

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Tim Groves's avatar

Back when David was even younger and even greener (if you can imagine that), he tweeted with absolutely no irony whatsoever:

"I feel the need to continue wearing my mask outside even though I’m fully vaccinated because the inconvenience of having to wear a mask is more than worth it to have people not think I’m a conservative 😬"

... and got roundly ridiculed for his trouble.

https://x.com/davidhogg111/status/1393191013808754688?lang=en

And I agree, to discerning news-watchers, who pay attention to such things, he has three-letter-agencies tattooed all over him.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

David seems traumatized, as are many of us. If he's trying to make a difference with guns, I'd say it's a hopeless cause. He should probably move to a sane country. I might if I were young.

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SPONGEWORTHY47's avatar

david "hogg" is just a revolting nancyboy...

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Francis/Clare's avatar

😵‍💫

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Lindsay Moore's avatar

And let’s not forget how Leanna Wen was front and center on CNN about Convid and the shots and how deadly thd “virus” was and how crucial it was for everyone to just get vaccinated!

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SmithFS's avatar

Funny you see these kind of events over the Palestine/Israel conflict which involves a minuscule sliver of land in an irrelevant part of the World.

Funny we haven't seen any of that with the million dead CIA led Syria disaster or the million dead ongoing CIA led Libya disaster or the million dead CIA led Russia proxy war in Ukraine or the CIA led million dead Afghanistan war or the million dead Iraq war.

You'd think there would be a 1000X more angry & violent victims of those autocracies committing reprisal acts in CIA led America.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

or the tens of millions dead and hundreds of millions dealing with debilitating life changing injuries from the injections

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SmithFS's avatar

Yes, that too. Good point.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

Lol

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pimaCanyon's avatar

you think 20 million dead globally from the covid jabs is funny? Hundreds of millions dealing with serious injuries and will probably die before their time--that's funny?

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Francis/Clare's avatar

I think it's absolute bullshit.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

Here is Dennis Rancourt's analysis as of late 2023. 17 million dead globally by then. Nearly two years later we are well above 20 million.

https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=133&name=2023_09_17_covid_19_vaccine_associated_mortality_in_the_southern_hemisphere

Anecdotally, out of about 200 people I know of who took the shots, 3 died and 14 were seriously injured. Sister of close friend died in her sleep after the 2nd Moderna shot. My own sister has serious heart damage, had to go on BP meds. My brother also has heart damage. My nephew, a strong healthy 35 year old, has been suffering with peripheral neuropathy for 3 years. Work colleague of my wife had such severe nerve damage she shook constantly and could barely get around even with a walker. Another work colleague, also in his 30's, got shingles. These things are poison, but poison of the worst kind because they cause all kinds of different symptoms, so when people hear about them or even experience them, most just say "coincidence" or "absolute bullshit". They refuse to believe what's right in front of their eyes.

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Francis/Clare's avatar

He's a creep. No background in medicine or climate, a racist, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Rancourt

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60Gigahertz2's avatar

No shit. I think it's amazing no "born in the USA" citizens are actually shooting back, now that we are being murdered en masse with unnatural, weather modified events...

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Sonja's avatar

Why did the killer choose to kill his victims in front of the museum at the Judiciary Square in the dense urban environment of the downtown DC, where several courts are located, in addition to an FBI building? Each of these building is guarded by many armed guards. There was nowhere he could have fled. On the other hand, the Israeli Embassy is next to a quiet, residential area, with single family houses. It seems to me it is a hoax.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

💯🎯

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dualistic Roger W.'s avatar

Amazing research.

Thanks.

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David Westerlund's avatar

Roger: Why would I be blocked from a "like"? Celia Farber has not blocked me before

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Chris Kanon's avatar

I doubt you are blocked. It seems to be a JavaScript issue where it works on some devices and not others. It also seems capricious and arbitrary :) I had most fails on older devices.

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denise ward's avatar

I can't like anything on substack anymore. I used to be able to. I don't know if it's the operating system that's been updated or what.

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Ekoh's avatar

It might be your device. I can “like” from my iPad but not from my old iPhone.

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Deenzy's avatar

It’s an op for sure. My gut says wholly fabricated but we will never know the truth & it’s not worthy of our time or attention

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djean111's avatar

My first, second, third, and fourth thoughts were "false flag". I tend to think that of most events like this, anywhere in the world, involving anyone. Cui bono and all that.

My fifth thought was oh, I think Mr. Bobby is right - being labeled as antisemitic is going to be bad for the health of Americans.

Fantastic research, thank you!

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Jeff's avatar

Yes. Conveniently timed as well. Just when the entire world 🙄 is turning against the genocide.

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Cat McGuire's avatar

Very good reporting, Celia. measured, thorough, and proactive questioning. Thank you for your insights.

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Caroline Ayers's avatar

Kim and Jane, I suggest you do some research on false flag ops - they are much more common than the general public realises... suggest you widen your overton windows...

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

As usual Celia, a very in depth breakdown of this story, thank you. I ONLY heard about these murders an hour ago, since I have not been on Truth Social recently, and have been busy with my own chores. I really appreciate the skepticism you have shown regarding this, and for giving the reasons why we should be skeptical.

On the face of it, one would immediately have sympathy for the victims, a young couple preparing to be married. But you point out the inconsistencies, as well as the use of slogans being used as mind control devices. I will personally not jump to any conclusions here. In a couple hours there is a long news show I watch on Rumble, and he will talk about this story as well, I'm sure.

On another note, I heard about the murder in Madrid of the main opposition leader to Zelensky, an obvious hit by the deep state, it seems to me.

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James Bernard Shepard's avatar

Thank you. I will archive this excellent article. All the pictures of allegedly real Yaron Lischinsky and allegedly real Sarah Milgrim do not resemble each other and do look AI generated. Certainly these days it is possible to AI generate very believable pictures and even video. The inconsistencies, while none is damning in itself, add up to a picture of a lazy, AI generated false incident with false evidence all organized by artificial assistance. AI is not that smart.

I looked intently into the Sandy Hook ... I call it an Operation. A young lady claiming to be "Alex Israel" a high school friend of allegedly real [very incompetently faked AI image] Adam Lanza, was interviewed from London where she was allegedly really living; she had no believable details to offer and her upset seemed poorly acted to me (I'm a former TV and stage actor). This was added to the blizzard of inconsistencies of "Sandy Hook" which then connected it to the Boston Bombing operation; I downloaded all the photos taken from several angles of the finish line alleged scene of alleged carnage and they prove beyond doubt that the bomb was nothing but a firework and nobody was really hurt much less killed.

Some years later it was alleged that a man named Foley was beheaded by Al-Qaeda. The video released reeked of fraudulence. His grieving sister Katey Foley was interviewed on CNN. She too was a bad actor. Her hair, facial features, voice, mannerisms, expressions, smile (big "duping delight" smile over her brother being beheaded amongst attempts to look distressed) all were identical to "Alex Israel" in every particular.

I lost liberal friends over these inquiries of mine. I had somehow morphed into a gun-nut American right wing anti-Obama conservative, believing CONSPIRACY theories. How dare I believe that 26 kids – one for each mile of the Boston marathon run, by some crazy co-incidence – were not murdered!

And then came the transparently unreal Pulse Nightclub Massacre. I was REALLY crazy by then.

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Jeff's avatar

For the longest time I didn't pay attention to Sandy Hook. The one day I watched one video, it may have been through Alex Jones, but I don't really remember. The entire thing was an obvious con. I guess they figured if they could get away with 911, why not Sandy Hook.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

By then you were that “good kind of crazy”!😉🤪

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James Bernard Shepard's avatar

I just dug this out of my archives. From personal letters I bored my then friends with:

What a relief! The Orlando shooting is as staged and false as the others

June 15, 2016

Just like Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing, San Bernadino, and probably others less publicized, the shooting never took place and no one died – maybe not even this Mateen.

What a relief to know. And it is really impossible not to know the more you look at the official account and the videos and "witness" statements being played repeatedly over the presstitute news and the more you consider what is missing and would have to be there in the event of a real disaster: ambulances, emergency workers, the coroner, removal of the bodies, which would lead of course to videos over the news of body bags and sheeted stretchers being removed and loaded into ambulances.

This is the reason we were told the bodies were not removed as of the following night, let alone right away: there were no real bodies! Just like at Sandy Hook.

[I cited “Memory Hole Blog: Orlando Nightclub Shooting: Questions and anomalies surround worst mass shooting in U.S.history”. That link and the blog has been ‘memory holed’.]

To this very good summary of the oddities surrounding the alleged Orlando massacre I add:– the several groups of non-professionals seen carrying "injured" – but not visibly wounded – people are carrying them,for the benefit of the camera, towards, not away from, Pulse.

The large pink lit-up sign of Pulse can be seen in the background beyond them as they walk away from the camera.

Another video I saw yesterday – and which has already been blocked, adding markedly to my suspicions – was able to follow the group carrying the man with red shoes until they thought they were out of camera shot at which point they laughingly deposit the uninjured man onto the sidewalk.

[I cited a now gone YouTube video link]

The "witness" Luis Burbano is an actor. He says he saw a "bullet" – the length of which he mimes with his fingers, about 5 or 6 inches long – hanging out of a man's leg. This is nonsense. Which throws the entire rest of his story out of court.

After 3 hours of waiting there are no ambulances and no emergency personnel in sight. This is impossible to believe as a legitimate disaster.

Oh that lone crazy Omar Mateen! [Turns out Mateen was an employee of G4S aka Securicor]

June 17, 2016 9:27:06 AM PDT "Lone, crazed assassin" Mateen pre-established his lone craziness at a gun shop, just like old Lee Oswald did in Texas in 1961 – even though Lee was meanwhile in the USSR. And Mohammed Attah did that as well, threatening to cut a desk clerk's throat some weeks in advance of 9/11. I know Lee Oswald didn't make it to trial because he was murdered over international live TV as shown on my folks' TV set for my personal edification. But neither myself nor anyone else has any real evidence that Mohammed Attah or Omar Mateen died.

Maybe being murdered over live TV wasn't part of Omar's job description. He's up in Paradise right now, no doubt, with all those virgins. Or maybe he's in Las Vegas or Athens with virgins.

And just in advance of Gay Pride Week 'Security" is being "beefed up" all over the USA. Is anybody hiring G4S/Securicor security guards? I hear they are top of the game. They sure did a bang-up job as security for Boston Logan Airport on 9/11!

Say, do you really think that guys like that would put up with their colleagues being murdered by their fat-assed clients post-assignment? And how do you think the cliental could accomplish that? Would they hire another assassin team on a promise that "you guys won't be murdered, just those other guys that we promised wouldn't be murdered”?

Do you really think that's how the terror business works? If you do you've been swallowing too much Hollywood cool aid, I think.

Trump has missed his chance to express condolences and has probably lost a lot of gay voters. Hillary will snap them up. Boy, what a lucky co-incidence for her!

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James Bernard Shepard's avatar

You went and got me started! Here’s more from my letters at the time:

The Vegas Massacre a Hoax?

Alleged security guard Jesus Campos claimed (or it was claimed on his behalf) that he was outside the room in the corridor on the 32nd floor and that Paddock shot him before Paddock started firing at the crowd (several hundred yards away) out the broken windows. Then the timeline was changed to say Campos was fired upon and hit in the left leg [he's nursing his left leg when he appears on the Ellen DeGeneris Show on October 17] after Paddock stopped firing

at the crowd – but obviously before Paddock (allegedly) killed himself. That gets weird in itself because with Campos wounded and calling for help [ he must have had a radio, being a security guard? And yet he was not registered as such with Nevada State authorities as the law requires.] Campos wounded and calling for help they still didn't get up there for at least ten minutes?

Huh!? Campos was not registered as a security guard? That's the word from the Nevada State licensing authority. This is a casino! Imagine the security of a casino. Ocean's Eleven had to do all sorts of complicated shit to crack a casino but Jesus Campos gets a job there without a license and the vetting that that would require? Bullshit.

And after all this they still take over an hour to storm the room while all the time Paddock could have resumed firing for all they knew. He'd already fired hundreds of rounds. So they had to have assumed he had some very hefty firepower in that room. Yet they waited for a whole hour to storm the room? What a bunch of pussies – or what a bunch of bullshit.

Anyhow. The FBI is on the case and Campos is the first eyewitness to the deadly effect of Paddock in his 32nd floor sniper citadel. We're going to keep Campos close by, huh? Whoops!

Campos is gone! Which way did he go, which way did he go [You remember, like the idiot said in the Bugs Bunny cartoons?] He's gone, says his union [he's in the security guard's union but he doesn't have a license?] he's gone on a preplanned vacation to Mexico. Preplanned before the mass murder, time off authorized with his boss, no way to change that schedule; sorry, FBI, you guys have no authority and neither do the cops, a vacation is a vacation, it's sacred. He's the prime witness to the worst mass atrocity in US history but the FBI can't keep him from buggering off to Mexico without even certain knowledge of where he's gone or when or if he will ever return? Bullshit.

He's next seen on October 8 crossing back into the US at the crossing near San Diego driving a rented car with California plates. His own car has Nevada plates. But anyhow he's driving back so presumably he drove down. [Or he flew down? Where's the record of that ticket purchase? Or he bussed down? How'd he rent a car with California plates in Mexico? He bussed from Nevada to California with a bleeding wounded leg, rented the car in California and then drove it down to Baja California for some r&r?] So he at least drove some hundreds of miles with a wounded leg? Bullshit.

The whole Campos witness story is completely unbelievable. Any judge and jury would have to discount it as a fabrication. So we really don't have any reliable evidence that Paddock fired any bullets at all, do we.

No wonder media silence has descended on the whole story. The problems with the Campos witness story is only one set of problems with the entire scenario. What about the fact that Paddock's laptop was found, the authorities say, in the room but the hard drive was removed and is now nowhere to be seen?

What about the man who gave that nice articulate interview on YouTube after having been shot through the pelvis with a machine gun bullet the day before yesterday, when Congressman Scalese was shot through the hip and pelvis and took weeks to be able to talk to anybody?

What about the woman giving the tearless tearful YouTube interview from the hospital bed [no tubes in her, no life support stuff there at all] who claims she was shot twice in the gut and then ran 600 feet and climbed a fence before hailing a cab to the hospital? Even Wonder Women's mom couldn't do that and she was just shot once in the gut. These people are actors and bad actors at that.

They are prearranged support for a scenario, a phony scenario cooked up by people whose ideas about guns and wounds comes from action movies. What else could they be? Everything they say must be discounted as a lie. The whole story is suspect.

If the incident happened as claimed officially why use actors, and why use the obviously suspect runaway Jesus Campos? We can't know what really happened but from the above mentioned factors alone we can say that the incident didn't happen as we were told. The official account is riddled with obvious lies. Why?

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Ekoh's avatar

With all that you wrote, there are many people who believe every word the media cranks out. It’s disheartening, to say the least.

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MDickie's avatar

As many others have posted & thank you Celia for your detailed research, my first thoughts were another “false flag.” How convenient this one was that all the world is pulling away from Israel right now so we needed a narrative to change that viewpoint. False flags don’t mean someone didn’t get hurt or killed & in this case I certainly hope it was staged & they didn’t get killed but this one seems highly suspicious in my humble opinion.

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Jane Cena's avatar

False flags can be both fake or real. In any case, the only requirement for an event to be a false flag is if its deceptive in nature, irrespective of whether there are real casualties or not.

In this case, I suspect it's totally fabricated. It would certainly be easier to fake for one thing than, say, 9/11, where death and destruction couldn't be totally avoided but were kept to a minimum.

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CollDoll's avatar

Celia, I still have all my research and notes about the 2020 Covid scare story our small team investigated. Unlike the people in this DC incident with ghost FB accounts, the 2020 story was full of posts from the "widow" who struck me as a bit happy go lucky so soon after her husband's alleged death from Covid. Thank you for the mention.

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VickieDawn's avatar

There are murders of white people probably daily, because their white. What is the name for that? Antisemitic is meaningless! Just a trick. The lives of Israeli's, or people who claim to be Jews are of no more importance, or value, or precious than the lives of any other people group.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

you know that and I know that, but the Zionists will use the term anti-semitic over and over and over in order to get what they want.

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60Gigahertz2's avatar

So this event happens, in DC, right when the tide is turning definitively against Israel for it's genocide-based real estate and resource theft in Gaza.

And, like the majority of active shooter events in the USA, there are inconsistencies in the reporting and the victim's identities. I bet the Mossad did it as a false flag PR event, and there's a good chance nobody died at all.

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Jeff's avatar

"...and there's a good chance nobody died at all." Maybe. But it wouldn't be the first time they killed their own, would it?

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60Gigahertz2's avatar

Absolutely. The book "By Way of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky (now in Canada) made that very clear.

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Jane Cena's avatar

It may not be the first time they killed their own, but it's often not without good reason.

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

The People in the TWO comparison Photos dont look the same. & what's the story about the guy who walks into the video clip frame & Grabs the Keffiyeh from "The Witness" & walks off out of teh frame & away from everyone!!????..... WHAT!? 🧐🤔

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Manifestos are the tell of MKultra, Luigi Mangione style. Looking to a BLM style response for a Soros style color Revolution with crisis actors on the George Floyd anniversary.

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