All my life I have heard the two sides of these stories. I never once believed that Palestine was unoccupied. The number of old trees in rows tell a story of their own. They were planted by someone and cared for throughout their lives. The Israelis want us to believe that they entered an empty land and populated it. That is obviously untrue.
The bride ... and her husband: "Many Jews were aware in the early years of Zionism that there was a significant Arab population in the Land of Israel/Palestine relative to its Jewish population. Moreover, Zionists realized that much of the Arab population did not want Jews to immigrate to the Land of Israel/Palestine or to reestablish a Jewish state there." https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-bride-is-beautiful-but-she-is-married-an-irresistible-anti-zionist-story/
The accusations of Israeli genocide on this Substack page are instructive - they highlight the fact that the inability to see through propaganda is a result not so much of a lack of knowledge, facts or experience, as much as an emotional "need to believe". Many brilliant people commenting on this site who saw through "Covid" and "AIDS" could see through those scams because they didn’t have a need to believe in them. All you have to do is tell people like that the facts, and they go, "Oh my God, that makes so much sense! It is all a scam!". However, if you speak to someone with a need to believe, rather than engage in debate, they will yell at you, accuse you of murder or call you a racist, homophobe or a dupe. Generally speaking, the people commenting on this Substack page are in the former group.
But when it comes to claims of Israeli genocide and the alleged "ethnic cleansing" of Palestinian Muslims, it is quite another matter. How is it so many smart people can see through the fraud of AIDS and Covid but not question or think critically about the cartoonish depictions of Israeli genocide? Why aren't these depictions in and of themselves a giant red flag? In essence, these depictions say, "The Jews are picking up guns and using Palestinian children for target practice"; "Netanyahu is a cold-blooded killer, favoring the slaughter of Palestinian women and children"; "Israel is full of bloodthirsty Nazis who like to bomb Palestinian hospitals." We might as well add to this cartoon: "Jews eat their Matza dipped in the blood of Palestinian children", or, "To understand the Jewish mind, read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion." Then there was "Jenin Jenin". Now "Tantura".
Unfortunately, the facts show something quite different. Historically, doctrinally driven, bloodthirsty behavior is simply not the way of free countries or free peoples. It is the behavior of people living under genuine dictatorships, theocracies and fascist nations - these are the ones who resort to bloodthirsty savagery as a way of engaging with "the other". As much fun as it is to accuse America and Israel of being dictatorships and fascist nations, the fact is they are the two freest nations on the face of the Earth – even with the leftist/Marxist takeover of America that is presently in progress, we are still here in America the freest people on the planet. Israel is the freest nation in the Middle East. Keep in mind that Palestinian Muslims can and do run for office in Israel and hold actual positions in the Knesset. (An odd fact for an alleged Apartheid State - good luck finding the same respect for Jews in any Muslim majority country, another contradiction.) They're not allowed to run for Prime Minister of course, but that is because Israel is a Jewish State.
Contrast this with the fact the vast majority of fifty-some Muslim-majority countries surrounding the region of Israel are less than 1% Christian or Jew. Is this because Christians and Jews are racist peoples who refuse to live in Muslim countries? No. It’s because the Muslims over centuries - and particularly in the 20th Century - either ran out or killed off most every Christian and Jew, and those who remained were forced to hold second class status ("dhimmi") and pay a special non-Muslim "protection tax" ("Jizya").
This is the true context and history for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And since Oct 7th, 2023 (really since May 14, 1948) somehow history has suddenly been inverted, and the Israelis are suddenly the genocidal maniacs while the Palestinian Muslims are "innocent victims of a fascist Israel".
I challenge every commenter on this Substack: if there wasn’t a “need to believe“, wouldn't every individual embracing and actively promoting this cartoonish depiction of Israel honestly look at the accusations and realize something doesn’t make any sense? Like with "Covid" and "AIDS", they would make a serious effort to investigate the contradictions - at least make some good faith effort to find contrary views - whereupon they would find, for starters, that the source of all the "proofs" about Israel's allegedly genocidal behavior: the numbers of Gazan civilian deaths, the photos of carnage, the alleged massacres, etc., are ultimately sourced to the Palestinian Authority and the Gaza Health Ministry – the latter run by Hamas, and both driven by the doctrine of Islamic Jihad. The news outlets using these sources know full well what they are doing, and are fully aware that everybody else - on social media and all other platforms including Substack - will then quote their articles as though they are the original sources of the information.
How many of the people commenting here have actually studied the Sharia (Islam)? For example, how many here realize that in Islam, there is no such thing as an “Islamic terrorist“, only “civilians“ - thus, the inflated numbers of “Palestinian civilians“ killed by Israel according to the Gaza Health Ministry, when the vast majority of the adult Palestinian "civilians" were full-blown Islamic terrorists. (It really does teach in the Koran, "War is deceit".) And so far as the slaughter of children goes, it is well-known Hamas uses human shields and actually hopes for civilian casualties when Israel defends itself, because the Jihadis really are that cold blooded and it helps the Palestinian narrative of "Genocidal Jews". They also shoot their own people when they try to escape from areas where they've been warned by Israeli leaflets that the bombs are coming. But if one is drawn into these cartoonish depictions of Israel and makes no real effort to find contrary views, then on some level one is operating under a need to believe. It is just like finding counter voices to the vaccine industry narratives of "Covid" and "AIDS". Why do the believers refuse to consider contrary information and so readily embrace the lie?
If nothing else, consider how little outrage there is over the brutal actions of the Palestinian Jihadis on October 7th, compared to the borderline hysteria over the fact Israel is defending itself. No, the arc of history has been inverted, and suddenly the free State of Israel has started slaughtering Palestinians wholesale. The source of that narrative is not a reflection of reality, but a projection by the Jihadis, Hamas and the Palestinian authority themselves, of their own 1400 year history of brutal Islamic conquest. It is the Hamas charter itself that makes clear the whole function of Hamas is to eliminate the Jews. ("From the river to the sea...") How is it people commenting here on this Substack are not moved by that fact? Is it the "soft bigotry of low expectations"? Note there is no such clause or goal in the Israeli Constitution. Imagine the outrage if there was!
How lies became facts: The Tantura ‘massacre’ returns
The story—or rather the myth—of Tantura is part of a larger assault on the foundations of Western civilization.
Meyrav Wurmser
From the essay's conclusion:
"The battle over Israel’s legitimacy, of which this story of the great 'massacre of Tantura' is but a chapter, is a part of the overall war being waged in the West by the progressive camp to impugn the moral foundations of the West as a civilization advancing freedom."
Another yes or no question: Do you ever watch the footage, the clips I post, the countless actual clips? I think you're dead wrong on this. As I think you are dead wrong on chemtrails being a conspiracy theory.
Yes I watch the videos you post. Since my days in AIDS and Covid I'm nearly religious about being sure to see videos or read books and papers all the way through before I make any comments or recommendations. Otherwise it always comes back to bite one in the ass. (Did you read the detailed Tantura counter-claims I posted above by Mayav Wurmser? I will also post counters to the USS Liberty claims.)
Yes I know you think I'm dead wrong on this, and also on "chemtrails" as another scam. It's part of what is so interesting here. We both have unique knowledge and experience, much of it shared; been close friends and associates for decades, shared many profound experiences and agree upon many things, but are at polar opposites on these issues. And that's ok. All it means is there is something to learn.
The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of time to participate in these discussions and always having to write at 3 or4 o'clock in the morning. I would love to go through all of the essays and videos you have posted on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and mark each place I see something suspicious or suspect. Then I would note any patterns among the statements you find convincing but that I find suspect. While I haven't tried that in any systematic fashion yet, I have noted one common denominator responsible for our divergence of opinions, and that is the lies of omission - omissions that are often purposeful by those who benefit from making them, but unrecognized by otherwise well-meaning people who propagate them without testing the original claims. Too often there is little or no effort to examine contradictions or to actively seek out contrary views.
For example, seeing the clips or videos you have posted, I can see why certain claims look so convincing to you and why they would stir such outrage. My outrage comes when I find that a given view that had seemed so convincing, proved, upon closer inspection, to be based upon an omission. For example, I don't sense any overt malice on the part of Alon Schwarz. But when I hear things like, "The Israeli's stole Palestinian land, and this is the basis for the 'right of return'", I immediately revert back to 1948, just before the surrounding five Islamic countries united in their Islamic-doctrine-driven goal of genocidally disposing of the Jews "from the river to the sea". (Remember the head of Hamas famously said, "Let the Jews go to Israel, then I won't have to hunt them down"). Once told the Arab army's intention, many Palestinians left voluntarily, having been told they could return to their homes when the slaughter was complete. Unfortunately for them, Israel won the 1948 war, and when the Palestinians wanted to get back into the homes they left, the Jews understandably said, "No, you left so that we could be destroyed, you are no longer welcome here". That is a far cry from, "The Palestinians had their land stolen from them by the occupiers!"
To your other subject, there is what strikes me as too much downright magical thinking. I see way too many people pointing up at contrails in the sky and shouting, "Chemtrails!" with absolutely no evidence whatsoever than that they were told contrails are "chemtrails". Or pointing to collapsing buildings - especially buildings that buckled before they collapsed - and shouting, "Controlled demolition!" (how convenient). These are no different than explaining HIV does not cause "AIDS" to someone who then replies, "Well ,I know HIV does cause AIDS because I know someone who died from it". The talk and claims are way too loose for my taste, and driven by a need to believe. Why that is, I leave for anther discussion. I will say, though, I have studied these other issues as extensively as I have studied Covid and AIDS. However, I am also well aware two or three examples to support my arguments here is hardly adequate to prove my point. The same goes for those arguing in the other direction. But that is the nature of these platforms - you give some examples, get hit with a flurry of "but what about's!!??", have some hopefully productive give and take, and then go about your merry way.
Tom, if you look at the UN definition of genocide, you will see that Zionist behavior meets the legal definition. Please see Illan Pape's _The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine._ Learn about Plan Dalet. Speak with survivors and consider their testimonies. I myself was denied entry to Israel after strip search and being asked my religion. As an American and one of the US tax payers who helps pay for the state of Israel, I found this rather bizarre. Democracy? 1st hand personal experience. Also, I have been slandered, censored, kicked out of groups and lost at least one job for my positions and statements on this topic. My 1st hand personal experience of Jewish cancel culture. You don't have to believe me, but you will never convince me I didn't experience what I experienced. I also once met Teddy Katz. He seemed very genuine to me. Do you deny his thesis was removed? That he was taken to court? Is that a reasonable way for an academic disagreement to be addressed in a "free", "democratic" society? Please also consider reading Benjamin Ginsberg's "Fatal Embrace." Regular Jews pay the price when powerful Jews use them. Don't be a tool and work for truth and justice for all.
The IDF stood down for several hours on Oct 7th. Why? When they finally engaged, they indiscriminately murdered Israeli settlers and Nova concert goers amongst the Hamas. Now the death count for those in the Gaza prizon has exceeded 27,000. When is enough enough?
October 7th was a false flag committed by the same entities that orchestrated the 9/11 false flag.
Israelis themselves have called October 7th impossible. That Gaza border was locked down tighter than any border wall in the world. Israel stood down to allow it to happen (just like America on 9/11), to fulfill an agenda. It was not "incompetence."
Bibi said it himself, "this is our 9/11." And he wasn't kidding. And he is looking for the same result as the 9/11 false flag: the American military taking out Israel's targets.
America-Babylon (and all its proxies) will be paying dearly for its genocidal actions throughout the world, including Gaza, Ukraine, and many more. The Bible calls America "the hammer of the whole earth" for good reason (Jer 50:23).
The Scriptures have foretold all.
Ps 137:8-9:
O daughter of Babylon [AMERICA], who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. (Ps 137:8)
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. (Ps 137:9)
P.S. Strangely, the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion" (not Zion) are all coming to pass with 100% accuracy. I think someone else needs to check his "need to believe."
Wow that was quite a delusional rant. Congratulations, but almost no rational person is going to agree. It just goes to reinforce my impression from the film that people who are or have been complicit in acts of horrific crimes against humanity will jump through hoops of irrational thought loops to justify why they are in fact the innocent victim. "Noooo! We're the good people, the innocent victim for all time, how dare you accuse us you anti-semite!" Well my delusional friend, that argument is wearing very thin. Very thin indeed.
israel- who was it founded by- the ultimate land of propaganda- don't forget- this free democracy - like the US - injected it's people with poison- spray poison- use glyphosate and poison in the water- not sure where the freedom enters this picture- it's a movie in the minds of those who want to believe a fairytale- promise software- and on and on and on--bloodthirsty- you bet
remember- in the US they used to have barbeques after hanging black people and that's what they ate- in front of children- the lands of horror
https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2004/january.htm It is unbelievable what humans do to each other - "Often the lynch mob acted with haste, but on other occasions the lynching was a long-drawn out affair with speeches, food-eating, and, unfortunately, ritualistic and sadistic torture: victims were dragged behind cars, pierced with knives, burned with hot irons or blowtorches, had their fingers and toes cut off, had their eyes cut out, and were castrated -- all before being hanged or burned to death. One Mississippi newspaper referred to these gruesome acts as "Negro barbeques." 4
https://www.amazon.ca/Caste-Origins-Discontents-Isabel-Wilkerson/dp/0593230272/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DDAEF0CKP9KA&keywords=caste+the+origin+of+our+discontent&qid=1708135556&sprefix=origin+caste%2Caps%2C430&sr=8-1 "Beyond race, class, or other factors, there is a powerful caste system that influences people’s lives and behavior and the nation’s fate. Linking the caste systems of America, India, and Nazi Germany, Wilkerson explores eight pillars that underlie caste systems across civilizations, including divine will, bloodlines, stigma, and more. Using riveting stories about people—including Martin Luther King, Jr., baseball’s Satchel Paige, a single father and his toddler son, Wilkerson herself, and many others—she shows the ways that the insidious undertow of caste is experienced every day. She documents how the Nazis studied the racial systems in America to plan their outcasting of the Jews; she discusses why the cruel logic of caste requires that there be a bottom rung for those in the middle to measure themselves against; she writes about the surprising health costs of caste, in depression and life expectancy, and the effects of this hierarchy on our culture and politics. Finally, she points forward to ways America can move beyond the artificial and destructive separations of human divisions, toward hope in our common humanity."
So no one died in Gaza when Israel bombed all the apartments or the hospitals? And the Nakba didn’t really happen either. And when Israel 'mowed the lawn' in 2014 and bombed apartments again no one died?
Lol…this is the best denial of genocide I’ve seen yet.
Celia, I disagree, I watched this documentary twice, even though it was not easy, and I don't see the settler's pain. I see that women look at each other with some sort of knowledge they were not going to share with the person who was talking to them. They didn't tell that after they lived with Arab families for a while, on one day they changed the locks while their Arabs were at work, and wouldn't let them in their own houses. I see this horrible and painful documentary differently from you. And all the while, the Israelis had weapons that USSR organized for them to be delivered via Czechoslovakia - weapons, ammo, war planes, maybe even tanks. And what kind of weapons these fishermen had? Nothing. And in the end, Israeli killed, as these old farts say, around 800,000 -900,000 Palestinians. Who didn't present any threat to them.
Well, I know what you mean, and I agree that at least couple of the old guys seemed to be bothered by what they were doing in 1948 and later. But most of them, even if their memories were bothering them, were able to find excuse - "It's either us or them". Which was not true. They were doing ethnic cleansing, and they knew about it, and they were doing it in extremely harsh and terrible way - remember the story about going after Arabs with flamethrowers?
Plus, do you know that the story about baby in the oven really happened but it was done by Israelis? In different village. I have it bookmarked it somewhere on the X. Terrible crimes.
I don't think the human psych is able to handle the truth well....meaning, if one was to truly see what they did, it would completely destroy them....I'm sure there are some that committed suicide to escape the truth of what they had done to their fellow humans
I agree, and, maybe, there were/are some with stronger souls; hard to say, right? Look at Ariel Sharon, he started pulling illegal settlers out from Gaza, and he had same plans prepared for the West Bank, all of this as if he realized something, or as if something happened to make this u-turn from his usual "rape and rob, Palestinians are our slaves". If he wouldn't be hexed and end up in coma, who knows what would happen. Well, he wasn't hexed, but, according to rumors, some party did that Jewish black ritual, and it worked. same party that is in power now, I guess. But I don't really believe in those rituals, I think he knew that he didn't have much time left, and tried to right some wrongs.
Thank you for the information about the film, I only watched small episode on twitter about that baby, found it horrible. And, yet again I realized that Israeli government blames on Palestinians their own crimes. Nothing new. I guess, all these rape stories they say about Hamas, they committed themselves many times...
I hope what I saw was a Monument there at the end. I wish it could end. I cast about and wonder how it will end. I remember the Cherokee. All the American Indians. What has become America won't say anything. Too much blood on it's own hands and stone grown where it's heart was.
As I write and you read this there are many thousands dead and dying in Gaza. As I write and you read this there are millions dead and dying across the face of this planet in continuing raw brutal power having it's way in the covid war. Billions are mortally injected and will soon follow.
Powers unknown to me don't like humans. Powers unknown to me are using taken humans to Geoengineer this planet into a sterile remnant of a once healthy biosphere where multitudinous life lived. If nothing changes, by 2027 there will be no functional wildlife populations left here. If nothing changes, very soon, nothing survives. A final battle is joined.
I think what it comes down to Dennis, is that human beings must battle their OWN ego. I think the ego is the problem…a world problem. I cannot change you or anyone else, but I CAN change myself. Sounds simple, right? Surely you jest.😉
I agree that ego must be sublimated if I am to pursue any objectives beyond self. Few will ever even recognize the need and try. I am claiming some measure of Spiritual Progress gratefully. It's a simple program, yes. That's a totally different kettle of fish from easy.
Thanks for posting this video. I was unaware of it until your previous Truth Barrier email.
I would liked to have known about it much sooner than this week. Censorship of previously publicly-released media is likely never a good thing. We can handle the truth, or at least, the data, whether true or false, benign or inflammatory.
I do appreciate you, and MCM who alerted me to your Substack & subsequent email newsletters.
An important film. Thanks for posting it Celia. Yes it's controversial, but having the courage to put the ugly truth out there is who you are. And thank God for you!
What strikes me about this film is the uncomfortable truth about human nature which all of us in the truth community have come up against. I just started to get it with 911, but when we were slammed with the plandemic op it really hit home. People don't want to face reality!
It was so obvious in this film with the men who would laugh or otherwise dismiss the serious horror in which they participated. Anyone who forces them to confront themselves with the crimes they have committed must be shut down by any means necessary.
Catherine Austin Fitts frames it as "the story of I am good". Almost no one wants to confront the very real manifestation of their own ugly cowardice. And so the wheel turns and turns ....
War is the same for every humane people. It corrodes the soul. No matter how righteous the cause. Those who do the fighting pay the highest price in damage to their humanity. Empathy and compassion are perhaps the most damaged capacities. Once there is no longer an ability to feel guilt….
Thank you for sharing this remarkable and haunting film, with such deep human resonances and the layered tragedy of both the initial atrocities and the destruction of the man who tried to tell the story 50 years later. It's a visceral counterpart with a human face to the scholarly book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe (professor driven our of Israeli academia who is included in this film). As I watched the film, seeing how the Palestinian residents of Tantura were massacred and displaced, and then their village razed and transformed into an Israeli seaside resort, I was gripped by the horror that we're seeing the exact same scenario play out today in Gaza, while the whole world watches.....
Also Europeans, as I'm, forgot their history and the results are pretty nazi obscure... future will be worst if no one start discussing about our own history
Celia - I watched this shortly after you posted. I was recently engaged in a fairly heavy discussion with a pro-is person and I mentioned this documentary. Lo and behold it is no longer available on YT - can you point me in a direction that will bring me to this documentary? Or has it been completely scrubbed?
All my life I have heard the two sides of these stories. I never once believed that Palestine was unoccupied. The number of old trees in rows tell a story of their own. They were planted by someone and cared for throughout their lives. The Israelis want us to believe that they entered an empty land and populated it. That is obviously untrue.
The bride ... and her husband: "Many Jews were aware in the early years of Zionism that there was a significant Arab population in the Land of Israel/Palestine relative to its Jewish population. Moreover, Zionists realized that much of the Arab population did not want Jews to immigrate to the Land of Israel/Palestine or to reestablish a Jewish state there." https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-bride-is-beautiful-but-she-is-married-an-irresistible-anti-zionist-story/
thank you celia-
The accusations of Israeli genocide on this Substack page are instructive - they highlight the fact that the inability to see through propaganda is a result not so much of a lack of knowledge, facts or experience, as much as an emotional "need to believe". Many brilliant people commenting on this site who saw through "Covid" and "AIDS" could see through those scams because they didn’t have a need to believe in them. All you have to do is tell people like that the facts, and they go, "Oh my God, that makes so much sense! It is all a scam!". However, if you speak to someone with a need to believe, rather than engage in debate, they will yell at you, accuse you of murder or call you a racist, homophobe or a dupe. Generally speaking, the people commenting on this Substack page are in the former group.
But when it comes to claims of Israeli genocide and the alleged "ethnic cleansing" of Palestinian Muslims, it is quite another matter. How is it so many smart people can see through the fraud of AIDS and Covid but not question or think critically about the cartoonish depictions of Israeli genocide? Why aren't these depictions in and of themselves a giant red flag? In essence, these depictions say, "The Jews are picking up guns and using Palestinian children for target practice"; "Netanyahu is a cold-blooded killer, favoring the slaughter of Palestinian women and children"; "Israel is full of bloodthirsty Nazis who like to bomb Palestinian hospitals." We might as well add to this cartoon: "Jews eat their Matza dipped in the blood of Palestinian children", or, "To understand the Jewish mind, read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion." Then there was "Jenin Jenin". Now "Tantura".
Unfortunately, the facts show something quite different. Historically, doctrinally driven, bloodthirsty behavior is simply not the way of free countries or free peoples. It is the behavior of people living under genuine dictatorships, theocracies and fascist nations - these are the ones who resort to bloodthirsty savagery as a way of engaging with "the other". As much fun as it is to accuse America and Israel of being dictatorships and fascist nations, the fact is they are the two freest nations on the face of the Earth – even with the leftist/Marxist takeover of America that is presently in progress, we are still here in America the freest people on the planet. Israel is the freest nation in the Middle East. Keep in mind that Palestinian Muslims can and do run for office in Israel and hold actual positions in the Knesset. (An odd fact for an alleged Apartheid State - good luck finding the same respect for Jews in any Muslim majority country, another contradiction.) They're not allowed to run for Prime Minister of course, but that is because Israel is a Jewish State.
Contrast this with the fact the vast majority of fifty-some Muslim-majority countries surrounding the region of Israel are less than 1% Christian or Jew. Is this because Christians and Jews are racist peoples who refuse to live in Muslim countries? No. It’s because the Muslims over centuries - and particularly in the 20th Century - either ran out or killed off most every Christian and Jew, and those who remained were forced to hold second class status ("dhimmi") and pay a special non-Muslim "protection tax" ("Jizya").
This is the true context and history for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And since Oct 7th, 2023 (really since May 14, 1948) somehow history has suddenly been inverted, and the Israelis are suddenly the genocidal maniacs while the Palestinian Muslims are "innocent victims of a fascist Israel".
I challenge every commenter on this Substack: if there wasn’t a “need to believe“, wouldn't every individual embracing and actively promoting this cartoonish depiction of Israel honestly look at the accusations and realize something doesn’t make any sense? Like with "Covid" and "AIDS", they would make a serious effort to investigate the contradictions - at least make some good faith effort to find contrary views - whereupon they would find, for starters, that the source of all the "proofs" about Israel's allegedly genocidal behavior: the numbers of Gazan civilian deaths, the photos of carnage, the alleged massacres, etc., are ultimately sourced to the Palestinian Authority and the Gaza Health Ministry – the latter run by Hamas, and both driven by the doctrine of Islamic Jihad. The news outlets using these sources know full well what they are doing, and are fully aware that everybody else - on social media and all other platforms including Substack - will then quote their articles as though they are the original sources of the information.
How many of the people commenting here have actually studied the Sharia (Islam)? For example, how many here realize that in Islam, there is no such thing as an “Islamic terrorist“, only “civilians“ - thus, the inflated numbers of “Palestinian civilians“ killed by Israel according to the Gaza Health Ministry, when the vast majority of the adult Palestinian "civilians" were full-blown Islamic terrorists. (It really does teach in the Koran, "War is deceit".) And so far as the slaughter of children goes, it is well-known Hamas uses human shields and actually hopes for civilian casualties when Israel defends itself, because the Jihadis really are that cold blooded and it helps the Palestinian narrative of "Genocidal Jews". They also shoot their own people when they try to escape from areas where they've been warned by Israeli leaflets that the bombs are coming. But if one is drawn into these cartoonish depictions of Israel and makes no real effort to find contrary views, then on some level one is operating under a need to believe. It is just like finding counter voices to the vaccine industry narratives of "Covid" and "AIDS". Why do the believers refuse to consider contrary information and so readily embrace the lie?
If nothing else, consider how little outrage there is over the brutal actions of the Palestinian Jihadis on October 7th, compared to the borderline hysteria over the fact Israel is defending itself. No, the arc of history has been inverted, and suddenly the free State of Israel has started slaughtering Palestinians wholesale. The source of that narrative is not a reflection of reality, but a projection by the Jihadis, Hamas and the Palestinian authority themselves, of their own 1400 year history of brutal Islamic conquest. It is the Hamas charter itself that makes clear the whole function of Hamas is to eliminate the Jews. ("From the river to the sea...") How is it people commenting here on this Substack are not moved by that fact? Is it the "soft bigotry of low expectations"? Note there is no such clause or goal in the Israeli Constitution. Imagine the outrage if there was!
https://www.amazon.com/Road-Jenin-Pierre-Rehov/dp/B002GSXKTW
The Road to Jenin
Pierre Rehov
https://www.jns.org/jns/topic/23/5/29/291180/
How lies became facts: The Tantura ‘massacre’ returns
The story—or rather the myth—of Tantura is part of a larger assault on the foundations of Western civilization.
Meyrav Wurmser
From the essay's conclusion:
"The battle over Israel’s legitimacy, of which this story of the great 'massacre of Tantura' is but a chapter, is a part of the overall war being waged in the West by the progressive camp to impugn the moral foundations of the West as a civilization advancing freedom."
Another yes or no question: Do you ever watch the footage, the clips I post, the countless actual clips? I think you're dead wrong on this. As I think you are dead wrong on chemtrails being a conspiracy theory.
Yes I watch the videos you post. Since my days in AIDS and Covid I'm nearly religious about being sure to see videos or read books and papers all the way through before I make any comments or recommendations. Otherwise it always comes back to bite one in the ass. (Did you read the detailed Tantura counter-claims I posted above by Mayav Wurmser? I will also post counters to the USS Liberty claims.)
Yes I know you think I'm dead wrong on this, and also on "chemtrails" as another scam. It's part of what is so interesting here. We both have unique knowledge and experience, much of it shared; been close friends and associates for decades, shared many profound experiences and agree upon many things, but are at polar opposites on these issues. And that's ok. All it means is there is something to learn.
The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of time to participate in these discussions and always having to write at 3 or4 o'clock in the morning. I would love to go through all of the essays and videos you have posted on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and mark each place I see something suspicious or suspect. Then I would note any patterns among the statements you find convincing but that I find suspect. While I haven't tried that in any systematic fashion yet, I have noted one common denominator responsible for our divergence of opinions, and that is the lies of omission - omissions that are often purposeful by those who benefit from making them, but unrecognized by otherwise well-meaning people who propagate them without testing the original claims. Too often there is little or no effort to examine contradictions or to actively seek out contrary views.
For example, seeing the clips or videos you have posted, I can see why certain claims look so convincing to you and why they would stir such outrage. My outrage comes when I find that a given view that had seemed so convincing, proved, upon closer inspection, to be based upon an omission. For example, I don't sense any overt malice on the part of Alon Schwarz. But when I hear things like, "The Israeli's stole Palestinian land, and this is the basis for the 'right of return'", I immediately revert back to 1948, just before the surrounding five Islamic countries united in their Islamic-doctrine-driven goal of genocidally disposing of the Jews "from the river to the sea". (Remember the head of Hamas famously said, "Let the Jews go to Israel, then I won't have to hunt them down"). Once told the Arab army's intention, many Palestinians left voluntarily, having been told they could return to their homes when the slaughter was complete. Unfortunately for them, Israel won the 1948 war, and when the Palestinians wanted to get back into the homes they left, the Jews understandably said, "No, you left so that we could be destroyed, you are no longer welcome here". That is a far cry from, "The Palestinians had their land stolen from them by the occupiers!"
To your other subject, there is what strikes me as too much downright magical thinking. I see way too many people pointing up at contrails in the sky and shouting, "Chemtrails!" with absolutely no evidence whatsoever than that they were told contrails are "chemtrails". Or pointing to collapsing buildings - especially buildings that buckled before they collapsed - and shouting, "Controlled demolition!" (how convenient). These are no different than explaining HIV does not cause "AIDS" to someone who then replies, "Well ,I know HIV does cause AIDS because I know someone who died from it". The talk and claims are way too loose for my taste, and driven by a need to believe. Why that is, I leave for anther discussion. I will say, though, I have studied these other issues as extensively as I have studied Covid and AIDS. However, I am also well aware two or three examples to support my arguments here is hardly adequate to prove my point. The same goes for those arguing in the other direction. But that is the nature of these platforms - you give some examples, get hit with a flurry of "but what about's!!??", have some hopefully productive give and take, and then go about your merry way.
Tom, if you look at the UN definition of genocide, you will see that Zionist behavior meets the legal definition. Please see Illan Pape's _The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine._ Learn about Plan Dalet. Speak with survivors and consider their testimonies. I myself was denied entry to Israel after strip search and being asked my religion. As an American and one of the US tax payers who helps pay for the state of Israel, I found this rather bizarre. Democracy? 1st hand personal experience. Also, I have been slandered, censored, kicked out of groups and lost at least one job for my positions and statements on this topic. My 1st hand personal experience of Jewish cancel culture. You don't have to believe me, but you will never convince me I didn't experience what I experienced. I also once met Teddy Katz. He seemed very genuine to me. Do you deny his thesis was removed? That he was taken to court? Is that a reasonable way for an academic disagreement to be addressed in a "free", "democratic" society? Please also consider reading Benjamin Ginsberg's "Fatal Embrace." Regular Jews pay the price when powerful Jews use them. Don't be a tool and work for truth and justice for all.
Clever piece of propaganda you’ve written here. And no, it’s not working.
The IDF stood down for several hours on Oct 7th. Why? When they finally engaged, they indiscriminately murdered Israeli settlers and Nova concert goers amongst the Hamas. Now the death count for those in the Gaza prizon has exceeded 27,000. When is enough enough?
October 7th was a false flag committed by the same entities that orchestrated the 9/11 false flag.
Israelis themselves have called October 7th impossible. That Gaza border was locked down tighter than any border wall in the world. Israel stood down to allow it to happen (just like America on 9/11), to fulfill an agenda. It was not "incompetence."
Bibi said it himself, "this is our 9/11." And he wasn't kidding. And he is looking for the same result as the 9/11 false flag: the American military taking out Israel's targets.
America-Babylon (and all its proxies) will be paying dearly for its genocidal actions throughout the world, including Gaza, Ukraine, and many more. The Bible calls America "the hammer of the whole earth" for good reason (Jer 50:23).
The Scriptures have foretold all.
Ps 137:8-9:
O daughter of Babylon [AMERICA], who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. (Ps 137:8)
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. (Ps 137:9)
VIDEO: WhyAmericaIsBabylon.com
PDF: https://drive.proton.me/urls/645D0FZ5J4#lkxxRs8dwIIA
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P.S. Strangely, the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion" (not Zion) are all coming to pass with 100% accuracy. I think someone else needs to check his "need to believe."
Wow that was quite a delusional rant. Congratulations, but almost no rational person is going to agree. It just goes to reinforce my impression from the film that people who are or have been complicit in acts of horrific crimes against humanity will jump through hoops of irrational thought loops to justify why they are in fact the innocent victim. "Noooo! We're the good people, the innocent victim for all time, how dare you accuse us you anti-semite!" Well my delusional friend, that argument is wearing very thin. Very thin indeed.
Go down the rabbit hole… 1666 Redemption Through Sin: Global Conspiracy in History, Religion, Politics and Finance https://a.co/d/eUGOm4j
And I can definitely add many, many more! This is a fact, for those that are AWAKE and open to Truth.
israel- who was it founded by- the ultimate land of propaganda- don't forget- this free democracy - like the US - injected it's people with poison- spray poison- use glyphosate and poison in the water- not sure where the freedom enters this picture- it's a movie in the minds of those who want to believe a fairytale- promise software- and on and on and on--bloodthirsty- you bet
remember- in the US they used to have barbeques after hanging black people and that's what they ate- in front of children- the lands of horror
..."in the US they used to have barbeques after hanging black people..."
Reference?
https://youtu.be/s27ETxdCUqw This movie and the book, is powerful, and a true eye opener for what we live in....a Caste System....all of us.
https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2004/january.htm It is unbelievable what humans do to each other - "Often the lynch mob acted with haste, but on other occasions the lynching was a long-drawn out affair with speeches, food-eating, and, unfortunately, ritualistic and sadistic torture: victims were dragged behind cars, pierced with knives, burned with hot irons or blowtorches, had their fingers and toes cut off, had their eyes cut out, and were castrated -- all before being hanged or burned to death. One Mississippi newspaper referred to these gruesome acts as "Negro barbeques." 4
I am aware of all the Jim Crow refs.
I was waiting for a ref to the implied cannibalism.
https://www.amazon.ca/Caste-Origins-Discontents-Isabel-Wilkerson/dp/0593230272/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DDAEF0CKP9KA&keywords=caste+the+origin+of+our+discontent&qid=1708135556&sprefix=origin+caste%2Caps%2C430&sr=8-1 "Beyond race, class, or other factors, there is a powerful caste system that influences people’s lives and behavior and the nation’s fate. Linking the caste systems of America, India, and Nazi Germany, Wilkerson explores eight pillars that underlie caste systems across civilizations, including divine will, bloodlines, stigma, and more. Using riveting stories about people—including Martin Luther King, Jr., baseball’s Satchel Paige, a single father and his toddler son, Wilkerson herself, and many others—she shows the ways that the insidious undertow of caste is experienced every day. She documents how the Nazis studied the racial systems in America to plan their outcasting of the Jews; she discusses why the cruel logic of caste requires that there be a bottom rung for those in the middle to measure themselves against; she writes about the surprising health costs of caste, in depression and life expectancy, and the effects of this hierarchy on our culture and politics. Finally, she points forward to ways America can move beyond the artificial and destructive separations of human divisions, toward hope in our common humanity."
I look forward to Celia’s response to this comment.
which comment?
Hi Celia,
The two by Tom DiFerdinando.
So no one died in Gaza when Israel bombed all the apartments or the hospitals? And the Nakba didn’t really happen either. And when Israel 'mowed the lawn' in 2014 and bombed apartments again no one died?
Lol…this is the best denial of genocide I’ve seen yet.
Celia, I disagree, I watched this documentary twice, even though it was not easy, and I don't see the settler's pain. I see that women look at each other with some sort of knowledge they were not going to share with the person who was talking to them. They didn't tell that after they lived with Arab families for a while, on one day they changed the locks while their Arabs were at work, and wouldn't let them in their own houses. I see this horrible and painful documentary differently from you. And all the while, the Israelis had weapons that USSR organized for them to be delivered via Czechoslovakia - weapons, ammo, war planes, maybe even tanks. And what kind of weapons these fishermen had? Nothing. And in the end, Israeli killed, as these old farts say, around 800,000 -900,000 Palestinians. Who didn't present any threat to them.
Ok, fair enough, we don't all "see" the same things. I felt the settlers were also victims but of course very different kind of victims.
Well, I know what you mean, and I agree that at least couple of the old guys seemed to be bothered by what they were doing in 1948 and later. But most of them, even if their memories were bothering them, were able to find excuse - "It's either us or them". Which was not true. They were doing ethnic cleansing, and they knew about it, and they were doing it in extremely harsh and terrible way - remember the story about going after Arabs with flamethrowers?
Plus, do you know that the story about baby in the oven really happened but it was done by Israelis? In different village. I have it bookmarked it somewhere on the X. Terrible crimes.
Same as German Nazis did in occupied countries.
I don't think the human psych is able to handle the truth well....meaning, if one was to truly see what they did, it would completely destroy them....I'm sure there are some that committed suicide to escape the truth of what they had done to their fellow humans
I agree, and, maybe, there were/are some with stronger souls; hard to say, right? Look at Ariel Sharon, he started pulling illegal settlers out from Gaza, and he had same plans prepared for the West Bank, all of this as if he realized something, or as if something happened to make this u-turn from his usual "rape and rob, Palestinians are our slaves". If he wouldn't be hexed and end up in coma, who knows what would happen. Well, he wasn't hexed, but, according to rumors, some party did that Jewish black ritual, and it worked. same party that is in power now, I guess. But I don't really believe in those rituals, I think he knew that he didn't have much time left, and tried to right some wrongs.
Thank you for the information about the film, I only watched small episode on twitter about that baby, found it horrible. And, yet again I realized that Israeli government blames on Palestinians their own crimes. Nothing new. I guess, all these rape stories they say about Hamas, they committed themselves many times...
Everything you need to know about the settlers in one sentence:
They turned the Palestinian cemetery into a parking lot.
I hope what I saw was a Monument there at the end. I wish it could end. I cast about and wonder how it will end. I remember the Cherokee. All the American Indians. What has become America won't say anything. Too much blood on it's own hands and stone grown where it's heart was.
As I write and you read this there are many thousands dead and dying in Gaza. As I write and you read this there are millions dead and dying across the face of this planet in continuing raw brutal power having it's way in the covid war. Billions are mortally injected and will soon follow.
Powers unknown to me don't like humans. Powers unknown to me are using taken humans to Geoengineer this planet into a sterile remnant of a once healthy biosphere where multitudinous life lived. If nothing changes, by 2027 there will be no functional wildlife populations left here. If nothing changes, very soon, nothing survives. A final battle is joined.
Evil knows no bounds.
Cain slew Able.
I think what it comes down to Dennis, is that human beings must battle their OWN ego. I think the ego is the problem…a world problem. I cannot change you or anyone else, but I CAN change myself. Sounds simple, right? Surely you jest.😉
I agree that ego must be sublimated if I am to pursue any objectives beyond self. Few will ever even recognize the need and try. I am claiming some measure of Spiritual Progress gratefully. It's a simple program, yes. That's a totally different kettle of fish from easy.
Thanks for posting this video. I was unaware of it until your previous Truth Barrier email.
I would liked to have known about it much sooner than this week. Censorship of previously publicly-released media is likely never a good thing. We can handle the truth, or at least, the data, whether true or false, benign or inflammatory.
I do appreciate you, and MCM who alerted me to your Substack & subsequent email newsletters.
An important film. Thanks for posting it Celia. Yes it's controversial, but having the courage to put the ugly truth out there is who you are. And thank God for you!
What strikes me about this film is the uncomfortable truth about human nature which all of us in the truth community have come up against. I just started to get it with 911, but when we were slammed with the plandemic op it really hit home. People don't want to face reality!
It was so obvious in this film with the men who would laugh or otherwise dismiss the serious horror in which they participated. Anyone who forces them to confront themselves with the crimes they have committed must be shut down by any means necessary.
Catherine Austin Fitts frames it as "the story of I am good". Almost no one wants to confront the very real manifestation of their own ugly cowardice. And so the wheel turns and turns ....
The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie. "One word of truth outweighs the world.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
War is the same for every humane people. It corrodes the soul. No matter how righteous the cause. Those who do the fighting pay the highest price in damage to their humanity. Empathy and compassion are perhaps the most damaged capacities. Once there is no longer an ability to feel guilt….
Celia, thank you for sharing this.
The similarities of the Israeli tactics then are stunningly so similar to what they are currently doing in Gaza.
This Must Stop Once and For All.
Thank you for sharing this remarkable and haunting film, with such deep human resonances and the layered tragedy of both the initial atrocities and the destruction of the man who tried to tell the story 50 years later. It's a visceral counterpart with a human face to the scholarly book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe (professor driven our of Israeli academia who is included in this film). As I watched the film, seeing how the Palestinian residents of Tantura were massacred and displaced, and then their village razed and transformed into an Israeli seaside resort, I was gripped by the horror that we're seeing the exact same scenario play out today in Gaza, while the whole world watches.....
Thanks a lot for suggesting this documents!
Also Europeans, as I'm, forgot their history and the results are pretty nazi obscure... future will be worst if no one start discussing about our own history
Celia - I watched this shortly after you posted. I was recently engaged in a fairly heavy discussion with a pro-is person and I mentioned this documentary. Lo and behold it is no longer available on YT - can you point me in a direction that will bring me to this documentary? Or has it been completely scrubbed?
The origins of Zionism (Theodore Herzl)are hidden for many people.
This docu shines a light 👍
Thank you Celia for being brave enough to share this. It is an eye opener and I hope it opens many eyes.