Agreed. In 2020 The Highwire played a clip behind the scenes at WHO saying they aren’t doing a good enough job obsficating (?sp) when people report injury or death from V. I didn’t know what that meant, which is of course to confuse to the point where you just give up trying to understand. All by design.
Not anarchy agents; quite the opposite. They only want the masses to think it's anarchy, keeping their minds captured by the decoys, while they build the prison camp walls.
These are the times we're in now. Good grief. What's real? A good question and a necessary question since so much of what we thought made up 'reality' turned out to be manufactured. The 'givens' are no longer given. We're all going to have to dig deeper and find something foundational, inside, to weather these times.
Agreed it has always been thus but with internet & hand held “smart” devices it has gone in to hyper drive. The magic spell cast on 9-11 seems to have been the starting pistol. Everything changed that day
Being as I'm so late to the thread I'm going to post a reply here. I watched this live on Bannon's Warroom. At 3:08 of the interview this guy walks up behind Nick and follow him around at like 5:30 AM local time at his hotel which is 45 minutes from Lahania. I understand being skeptical, but this would be accusing Bannon of copying CNN and creating their own news stories they've been caught doing. Is that possible? Anything is possible. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you do view it, but likely way past this by now
True enough. "These times" refers to the end-game we're in, and the subsequent transparency of the forces behind this chaos. Obvious is more obvious ways.
I say to myself I neither believe or disbelieve, I just listen. I cannot know. Nor do I need to. Just wonder, listen to my gut and wonder some more. Sometimes I call it listening at doors.
The Depression and two World Wars brought about by the same groups and masonic organizations who have total media control. We are living in an open air prison now that can be attacked by drones and whatever they choose to use. This world is theirs and they are Sabbatian masonic Luciferians who hate Christians and openly defile the name of Jesus Christ. Pope francis is most likely one of them and the Vatican is the very opposite of what most think that it is. Know thy enemy is the key, and most have no clue where we are at and why.
Sure, but we can't treat that as a fact until we have some adequate evidence. The evidentiary methodology of my own Team is behaving like the #MeToo movement on steroids.
Yes the last 3 years is evidence -- indicating the Mainstream is not to be trusted and is engaged in nefarious projects probably aiming at subversion of the West to replace the West with a totalitarian new world order. But specific components of that vast, complex project still require adequate evidence.
Unfortunately we are playing on their turf, they have all of the big tech companies in their pocket. and they also control all of the intelligence infrastructure. All we have is speculative evidence. Jesus said to judge them by their fruits, and they have a lot of fruit to incriminate them.
Yes. Meanwhile, I believe the media is still not allowed in the disaster area. There is NO valid transparent reason for this, including "concerns for their health." They can be "protected" as well as any "authorized" person who is allowed.
I watched a clip last week where they say there are lots of toxic chemicals in the area from everything that burned. They also said that out of respect for the burned remains of those that died, they didn't want people walking all over the remains (dust). It certainly is not adding up!
I believe the Police Chief said that himself if I’m not mistaken. He was the Las Vegas Police Chief during the concert massacre. DAMN RIGHT NOTHING ADDS UP!
There was much more toxic chemical damage and burnt remains caused by the U.S. government and military in Vietnam. We saw the destruction and bodies. This one sounds like "not wanting to offend Muslims" so we'll just throw the "remains" of bin Laden overboard.
Not that I'm aware of. Lots of mass poisoning and murder that wasn't supposed to be really happening. Sept. 11 would be more of a parallel of things, including steel, turning to dust.
Out of all the information/disinformation the detail of whether or not there are missing people posts all over the area or not is a real good one. I’ve seen nothing on this anywhere.
Exactly, confirmation bias from what seems to be someone who witnessed something and the naked mind just welcomes it as part of the event being pushed.
images and testimonies were part of that still active, still disguised, psy-o[. that remains nearly always without explication when mentioned, yet simultaneously, when mentioned
( as above ), accompanied by a tacit assumption that the reference needs nothing more
( as if already adequately examined, elucidated, sufficiently for general comprehension )
For a while now, I’ve been wondering if our simulation is a simulation for a simulation. And which of them I should embrace. Or should I go back to being a drone sheep and stop thinking.
I don't know Celia...it's in high gear now! Could happen anywhere cause they'll make it happen! If we just stick with what we know about the fire, it seems more than obvious it was intentional. Those who want to believe 'climate change" just can't live in a world where their government is evil. The head in the sand thing has been going on for decades in many fields (as you well know): medical, social, education, economy, NGOs, gov't, Pentagon.....
I think we are finding out now how captured the state of Hawaii has been for a long time.
Regarding missing children. That is a metric, in general in the USA, that has been lied about for at least 30 years. David Icke used to talk about that.
Rosa died of lung cancer in May, 2021. Known for her book BEHIND THE GREEN MASK: U.N. Agenda 21. “Agenda 21–All the information you need to understand what is happening in your town, why it’s happening, who is behind it, and what you can do to stop it.”
I got a healthy glimpse of Leftist corruption in Hawaii when briefly studying the Hawaiian angle of Obama's Eligibility Problem. On my old blog I posted a few things from one major researcher into it, a woman who went by the name of "Butterdezillion". Among other related things, she investigated the strange case of Director of the Hawaii Dept. of Health, Loretta Fuddy, who died in a small plane crash off one of the islands.
This old posting of mine from June of 2012 has a lot of useful info on it:
I agree...the two twitter vids do not pass the smell test.
The guy with his dog seems to be following outlines of a script. Who starts out a genuinely panicked appeal with the claim that an action suggestion will come at the end? Why not just state upfront what the action will be before yakking about suppressed tweets? This isn't supposed to be about that kind of grievance. (That's not the limit of what I'm 'smelling,' but it stood out to me right away.)
Detailed update from a local white woman in Maui who was just trying to help and discovered FEMA and local 'authorities' were blocking delivery of aid to those in need.
We should probably also be analyzing this vid...what's included in the discussion? what's excluded?:
Ed Dowd: “The heat was killing people almost immediately, it was that bad.”
I saw Instagram posts by locals saying similar things that the lady above said about FEMA and the local authorities. I also watched a video of a local man saying police blockaded the road where all those burnt cars were trying to leave and that it’s the reason many burned in their cars, including entire families. Beyond horrific!
Is this the video you saw referring to the blockade that corralled many drivers into harm's way? (This particular posting of it was only about an hour ago.)
It's edited very strangely. The witnesses come across as completely credible. (The older man is addressed by the name "Fish" later in the video when he starts to break down, emotionally.) The editing is...problematic. Almost entraining, or maybe it's just a little alienating. Feels like manipulation, because of course it is. I've actually never seen an editing job like this.
(The watermark says, "TimTruth.com." I have repeated experience with his videos on Rokfin--"subscribed" for a while a year or more ago--and can say that he is not a source I would trust. I don't know what his connection to this video is. Either way, I really have a problem with the editing.)
Yes. That one. I saw another one this morning by a Hawaiian news station with another man saying they blocked roads when cars were trying to leave. If they are not censored, I believe the citizens of Hawaii are going to continue to speak up.
Please Celia, do not stop asking these questions. I do smell lots of rats. These people seem like fake characters. Where is the community? Where are the children? Where are the parents? Why doesn't anyone there seem to actually care. Bizarre. Truly weird. We need your reporter expertise. Please post any other credible reports from reporters you do know.
Unlike most links hyperventilatingly multiplying in the wake of Lahaina, this one is useful.
The (or an) editor at Maui Times (which Wokepedia tells us is an "alternative newspaper") claims the County of Maui and the Maui Police Department have been totally uncooperative with her request for information, and terms it "radio silence". At the end of this short clip, she speculates they are doing this to "cover their asses" for their "gross mismanagement" of the disaster -- a non-conspiratorial theory which is not implausible. I fear most of my fellow Team members (on Team Anti-Mainstream) are so far gone in their mass formation they can't even permit themselves to consider this possibility.
Anarchy agents. That’s what we have all around us.
I believe it’s intentional. Keep everyone confused and scared. Easier to control that way.
FJB
Agreed. In 2020 The Highwire played a clip behind the scenes at WHO saying they aren’t doing a good enough job obsficating (?sp) when people report injury or death from V. I didn’t know what that meant, which is of course to confuse to the point where you just give up trying to understand. All by design.
might have been obfuscating meaning hiding, so basically failing to block and cover the injury and death caused by the jab.
Not anarchy agents; quite the opposite. They only want the masses to think it's anarchy, keeping their minds captured by the decoys, while they build the prison camp walls.
Chaos* agents.
Anarchy is not synonymous with mayhem. They want you to believe that so they can control you with THEIR economic system.
These are the times we're in now. Good grief. What's real? A good question and a necessary question since so much of what we thought made up 'reality' turned out to be manufactured. The 'givens' are no longer given. We're all going to have to dig deeper and find something foundational, inside, to weather these times.
We have always been in these times. You did not see it before I am sorry to say. Not your fault at all but it was obvious.
Agreed it has always been thus but with internet & hand held “smart” devices it has gone in to hyper drive. The magic spell cast on 9-11 seems to have been the starting pistol. Everything changed that day
So true.
Being as I'm so late to the thread I'm going to post a reply here. I watched this live on Bannon's Warroom. At 3:08 of the interview this guy walks up behind Nick and follow him around at like 5:30 AM local time at his hotel which is 45 minutes from Lahania. I understand being skeptical, but this would be accusing Bannon of copying CNN and creating their own news stories they've been caught doing. Is that possible? Anything is possible. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you do view it, but likely way past this by now
https://rumble.com/v39b5p0-nobody-trusts-the-leaders-anymore-nick-sortor-reports-on-mauis-current-situ.html
True enough. "These times" refers to the end-game we're in, and the subsequent transparency of the forces behind this chaos. Obvious is more obvious ways.
I say to myself I neither believe or disbelieve, I just listen. I cannot know. Nor do I need to. Just wonder, listen to my gut and wonder some more. Sometimes I call it listening at doors.
(I'm sixtyish too)
My maternal grandmother used to say that! She was born in 1901.
The Depression and two World Wars brought about by the same groups and masonic organizations who have total media control. We are living in an open air prison now that can be attacked by drones and whatever they choose to use. This world is theirs and they are Sabbatian masonic Luciferians who hate Christians and openly defile the name of Jesus Christ. Pope francis is most likely one of them and the Vatican is the very opposite of what most think that it is. Know thy enemy is the key, and most have no clue where we are at and why.
That’s why I pray for discernment daily sometimes more.
You make a great point Celia. Where are the tik toks of anguished parents and photos of the missing, like we saw immediately after 911.
1) How do we know there are no such tik toks?
2) How would anguished parents/relatives/friends make tik toks when everything they had was destroyed and most of them are already poor?
Or maybe they are being censored.
Sure, but we can't treat that as a fact until we have some adequate evidence. The evidentiary methodology of my own Team is behaving like the #MeToo movement on steroids.
We have the three last years as evidence.
Yes the last 3 years is evidence -- indicating the Mainstream is not to be trusted and is engaged in nefarious projects probably aiming at subversion of the West to replace the West with a totalitarian new world order. But specific components of that vast, complex project still require adequate evidence.
Unfortunately we are playing on their turf, they have all of the big tech companies in their pocket. and they also control all of the intelligence infrastructure. All we have is speculative evidence. Jesus said to judge them by their fruits, and they have a lot of fruit to incriminate them.
Yes. Meanwhile, I believe the media is still not allowed in the disaster area. There is NO valid transparent reason for this, including "concerns for their health." They can be "protected" as well as any "authorized" person who is allowed.
I watched a clip last week where they say there are lots of toxic chemicals in the area from everything that burned. They also said that out of respect for the burned remains of those that died, they didn't want people walking all over the remains (dust). It certainly is not adding up!
I believe the Police Chief said that himself if I’m not mistaken. He was the Las Vegas Police Chief during the concert massacre. DAMN RIGHT NOTHING ADDS UP!
There was much more toxic chemical damage and burnt remains caused by the U.S. government and military in Vietnam. We saw the destruction and bodies. This one sounds like "not wanting to offend Muslims" so we'll just throw the "remains" of bin Laden overboard.
:O Was everything turned to dust in Vietnam, like in Maui?
Not that I'm aware of. Lots of mass poisoning and murder that wasn't supposed to be really happening. Sept. 11 would be more of a parallel of things, including steel, turning to dust.
My God! Our government is demonic!
Out of all the information/disinformation the detail of whether or not there are missing people posts all over the area or not is a real good one. I’ve seen nothing on this anywhere.
My own experience w 9/11 is these appeared >immediately <
Right.
Rude awakenings are happening and its going to get worse.
Exactly, confirmation bias from what seems to be someone who witnessed something and the naked mind just welcomes it as part of the event being pushed.
Well said.
Maybe New York City versus Hawaii. Government doesn’t seem to care about the Hawaiians one bit!
Only the land...the heart chakra of our planet.
images and testimonies were part of that still active, still disguised, psy-o[. that remains nearly always without explication when mentioned, yet simultaneously, when mentioned
( as above ), accompanied by a tacit assumption that the reference needs nothing more
( as if already adequately examined, elucidated, sufficiently for general comprehension )
Nothing about this is adding up. Nothing!
Celia, I appreciate your skepticism when it comes to all of this stuff. It keeps the inquiry honest. Thank you.
So true.
The merits of skepticism cut both ways. My own team (Team Anti-Mainstream) for the most part continues to indulge in abysmal forensic speculation.
For a while now, I’ve been wondering if our simulation is a simulation for a simulation. And which of them I should embrace. Or should I go back to being a drone sheep and stop thinking.
Never stop thinking and always keep researching. Like with all of the criminals on mystery shows, they are always tripping up at the last moment.
Good luck trying to do that. It's enticing to just go back and live your life come what may. Enticing but not possible.
I take it back to basics everyday. But I am practiced at doing so.
Alice in Wonderland psyop tactic. Make every thing so confusing to demoralize people.
I don't know Celia...it's in high gear now! Could happen anywhere cause they'll make it happen! If we just stick with what we know about the fire, it seems more than obvious it was intentional. Those who want to believe 'climate change" just can't live in a world where their government is evil. The head in the sand thing has been going on for decades in many fields (as you well know): medical, social, education, economy, NGOs, gov't, Pentagon.....
Maybe check out Dane Wigington's work?
Do not be surprised that if they start to lose the narrative on this, space aliens attacked us and expect more from the hostile ET's.
What you must see is the housing policy change signed by Josh Green-new-deal on the 17th. Powers transferred. SHADY! https://governor.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/2307072-1.pdf
"Certain projects may include Brownfields [sic] sites that are developed to provide housing."
no more public meetings or competitive bidding
historic preservation in hawaii is apparently now history.
there's also a creepy section that forbids DNA analysis of human remains
they're just trolling us now.
There is nothing right about this. Legal challenges will be necessary. The people need advocates. This could happen anywhere.
Here is a good video from an Hawaii alternative reporter.
https://rumble.com/v377y6b-lahaina-fire-was-an-orchestrated-land-grab.html
about 28 minutes video runtime
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I think we are finding out now how captured the state of Hawaii has been for a long time.
Regarding missing children. That is a metric, in general in the USA, that has been lied about for at least 30 years. David Icke used to talk about that.
Thanks for this video. This exhausted woman has and will have my full attention. I hope she doesn't "disappear."
Here's another newfound source for me: Rosa Koire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d5NQXge4yg
Rosa died of lung cancer in May, 2021. Known for her book BEHIND THE GREEN MASK: U.N. Agenda 21. “Agenda 21–All the information you need to understand what is happening in your town, why it’s happening, who is behind it, and what you can do to stop it.”
I got a healthy glimpse of Leftist corruption in Hawaii when briefly studying the Hawaiian angle of Obama's Eligibility Problem. On my old blog I posted a few things from one major researcher into it, a woman who went by the name of "Butterdezillion". Among other related things, she investigated the strange case of Director of the Hawaii Dept. of Health, Loretta Fuddy, who died in a small plane crash off one of the islands.
This old posting of mine from June of 2012 has a lot of useful info on it:
https://hesperado.blogspot.com/2012/06/its-like-eating-peanuts.html
I agree...the two twitter vids do not pass the smell test.
The guy with his dog seems to be following outlines of a script. Who starts out a genuinely panicked appeal with the claim that an action suggestion will come at the end? Why not just state upfront what the action will be before yakking about suppressed tweets? This isn't supposed to be about that kind of grievance. (That's not the limit of what I'm 'smelling,' but it stood out to me right away.)
Here's one of the vids that passes my smell test:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kg09dEwVbdB1/
Detailed update from a local white woman in Maui who was just trying to help and discovered FEMA and local 'authorities' were blocking delivery of aid to those in need.
We should probably also be analyzing this vid...what's included in the discussion? what's excluded?:
Ed Dowd: “The heat was killing people almost immediately, it was that bad.”
https://rumble.com/v37nh0m-ed-dowd-updates-robert-f.-kennedy-jr.-on-the-wild-fires-in-maui-august-14-2.html
I saw Instagram posts by locals saying similar things that the lady above said about FEMA and the local authorities. I also watched a video of a local man saying police blockaded the road where all those burnt cars were trying to leave and that it’s the reason many burned in their cars, including entire families. Beyond horrific!
Is this the video you saw referring to the blockade that corralled many drivers into harm's way? (This particular posting of it was only about an hour ago.)
https://rumble.com/v39xgl7-hawaii-escape-from-road-blocks-share-this.html
It's edited very strangely. The witnesses come across as completely credible. (The older man is addressed by the name "Fish" later in the video when he starts to break down, emotionally.) The editing is...problematic. Almost entraining, or maybe it's just a little alienating. Feels like manipulation, because of course it is. I've actually never seen an editing job like this.
(The watermark says, "TimTruth.com." I have repeated experience with his videos on Rokfin--"subscribed" for a while a year or more ago--and can say that he is not a source I would trust. I don't know what his connection to this video is. Either way, I really have a problem with the editing.)
Yes. That one. I saw another one this morning by a Hawaiian news station with another man saying they blocked roads when cars were trying to leave. If they are not censored, I believe the citizens of Hawaii are going to continue to speak up.
Please Celia, do not stop asking these questions. I do smell lots of rats. These people seem like fake characters. Where is the community? Where are the children? Where are the parents? Why doesn't anyone there seem to actually care. Bizarre. Truly weird. We need your reporter expertise. Please post any other credible reports from reporters you do know.
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Unlike most links hyperventilatingly multiplying in the wake of Lahaina, this one is useful.
The (or an) editor at Maui Times (which Wokepedia tells us is an "alternative newspaper") claims the County of Maui and the Maui Police Department have been totally uncooperative with her request for information, and terms it "radio silence". At the end of this short clip, she speculates they are doing this to "cover their asses" for their "gross mismanagement" of the disaster -- a non-conspiratorial theory which is not implausible. I fear most of my fellow Team members (on Team Anti-Mainstream) are so far gone in their mass formation they can't even permit themselves to consider this possibility.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1693263015875850383
So much more to this than we can comprehend...