Ironically Mr. Murray only a few short years ago was respected by some of us for his vocal support of the rights and free speech of women and girls in the face the assaults, physical and verbal, along with endless censorship efforts - by and from the "woke" gender-lunatics. As soon as the topic changed to "Gaza" however, his support for "free speech" miraculously evaporated with no visible evidence of this causing the least bit of cognitive dissonance for Mr. Murray. It was rather amazing to watch such an ethical implosion unfold in real time I must say. : /
I stopped listening to Murray quite a while back. This stemmed from his stance on Israel. What I see as his "Israel can do no wrong" bias made listening impossible. You provide an excellent example of his "disconnect."
This is very interesting. It is my contention that the 'woke' gender-lunatics are not grass-roots campaigners for the rights of 'trans people' at all but are deliberately and 'tactically' funded political groups like Stonewall (funded by Republicans and Tories as well as by the 'left') for the likes of Mr. Murray to ride the inevitable backlash. Just as Trump has done with the sickening image of him being surrounded by girls as he bans men from women's sport. These bastions of the patriarchy would take women's reproductive rights and send us back to the kitchen but they gain support for pointing out the obvious.
The free speech over absurd gender ideology (sex is not a construct), as over the absurd unevidenced 'covid' measures, was deliberately curtailed to produce opposition to it. Thus rose the Free Speech Union with BP funded Toby Young and Zionazi Douglas Murray. They do not, of course, support free speech at all, especially if you're pro-Palestinian. They support the white western patriarchy. They have been purposefully given prominence on the back of anti-woke by the establishment/deep state (big oil, big arms, big animal ag, big pharma, banking, surveillance (many Israeli companies) and big tech). The deep state is mainly US based but the UK and Israel are still unequal parts of the triumvirate.
Thankfully Oct 7th opened the eyes of many on the 'right' to the true nature of Murray et al.
am not a huge fan of @ComicDaveSmith but what he is saying on the @joeroganhq podcast was completely true. It appears to me that @DouglasKMurray is trying to protect the establishment, or more accurately, the globalists pushing these wars. After the attacks of 9-11, I deployed to the Middle East seven times and led the first Marine infantry company into Baghdad during the March Up. I believed the narrative our government was pushing. Now, I know it all to be a lie. 9-11 was an inside job. Don't believe me, look here: https://open.substack.com/pub/larrykaifesh/p/9-11-a-day-of-treason?r=1735ds&utm_medium=ios
Colonel, equally this ancient 0302, was very disappointed in Douglas Murray’s “performance” in the “debate” with Dave Smith on the Joe Rogan show. The “monkey” went right up on my back early in the podcast. Anyone who has dismissed Daryl Cooper as a non serious historian, simply has not listened to him or understand what he is trying to do. Who made Douglas Murray or Victor Davis Hanson the arbiters of who is and is not a historian of note. I cannot imagine the sense of betrayal you and many, many of “our” Marines have felt and feel regarding 911 and the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns. Regardless, you met the time, and carried on. Further, the Corps is in Deep trouble. We can’t let only Chowder Society II and the new SecDef and SecNav can start to set things to right. Semper Fi.
By now you've probably heard Curt Weldon in various interviews, but here's a link to him w/ Tucker. This has got to gain legs, especially his info concerning the Bush neocons taking us to unnecessary war in Afghanistan.
Couldn’t agree more. Murray is contemptuous of everyone he feels are his lessers. And that applies to almost everyone on Earth, it seems. These types of people, with these ugly qualities, are the most repulsive of all humanity, save for psychopaths. And perhaps he is that too. No one really knows what lies behind his snide, disdainful, darkly arrogant mind.
Honestly, I couldn't be bothered, or polluted rather, by investigating him. You have proved reliable enough! 😉 for me to give you this 'un. A male Karen. OMG.
As a gay man who is free to think and live according to his natural inclinations, you might think he wouldn't be a fan of censoring the thoughts and speech of others. He is living his life openly because of the freedom of thought and word which have made Western liberalism an aspirational example to those who live in repressive societies. He would probably not want to live in those societies that repress the thoughts and words of their populations.
He is putatively a member of the Euro elites, who have created actual criminal thought crimes and jail time for wrong speak. They believe they should be able to police your utterances, wherever in the world you are, and definitely prevent their promulgation on their own territory. FWIW, he doesn't have any talent in debate. I have seen high schoolers far more capable. They don't get points for being condescending.
Oh no! A few minutes minute ago I'd never heard of Douglas Murray. After watching that clip (which is hard to unwatch), I'm absolutely convinced he's a smug, unctuous prick, and possibly an asset of some sort. And now I'm spouting and spreading those outrageous thoughts to fellow morons on the internet, thus proving his point.
Might I suggest that Alliance for Responsible Citizenship poster boy Jordan B Peterson - he of the infamous "Give 'em hell @netanyahu Enough is enough" tweet - is another contender for Chief Peacock.
Yes, it was his "envy" of Darryl that stood out to me in the first half of the show. Joe was great to be in Darryl's corner, though.
And the snotitude about Darryl's 30-hour podcast on something that I've already forgotten, "Well, Joe, you do that every week." Seriously, does he think Darryl doesn't spend hours researching the material, perhaps 4x the amount he tapes.
Oh, and the "Have you ever been to war-torn Palestine? I have. You should go." Like it is just a holiday. Murray is dishonest, he was sent there by his government to assess, not because he wanted to have a look-see. He probably jumped on it 'cuz it was a hop-skip to Tel Aviv.
Good and apt take on him, Celia. I have often tried to figure out where he belongs on the political spectrum, looks like "Woke Right" is a new one - and yes, he belongs there. He won't get far with the right here in the US though, being an agnostic or atheist. Good luck with that.
Trump is not a Christian either, but it doesn't matter. As long as he's white (well orange), pro-Israel, pro-'family values', the white christian nationalism will support him.
Perhaps Celia with the pretty name will indulge me with an opportunity to expose a certain class of people as murderers.
Decades ago a pedophile came before a band of groupies who were the forerunners of the fools who invented the "catch and release" abomination made famous by demoCRAP FOOLS AND LIARS.
This group of libbie loons voted for the release of a pedophile who then entered life in a halfway house. Sometime one day he abducted a little girl, took her to his half way house, used a sardine lid to enable him to rape her and then strangled her to death. A suspicious officer came to see this murderer and forced his way into the room, looking under the bed to find a pool of blood and found the little girl dead between the mattress and box springs.
He was arrested and the psychologists listened to his voice as he recounted the enjoyment he had felt torturing the little girl. Was it hard to take? Hard enough to make the two shrinks cry like babies.
His trial ended with his incarceration until years later the convicts figured out he had done what he did to a little girl and finally shanked him (stabbed) to death. The same day it was publicized that the rapist had died, the father of this little girl who I knew called me and told me the good news. He listened to my happy voice but listened closer when I told him the irony was that the damned CYSTem and criminal coddling bastards had kept this criminal alive for decade and I hated them all.
Today we have damned stupid lefturds in every western nation with this catch and release insanity for violent criminals. Damn them all because it was not the perp who murdered the little girl. It was the stupid bastards who voted to release him. These lefturd bastards in the CYSTem need to be arrested, tried for complicity to murder and then executed.
This is the insanity in most western nations that reigns supreme and continues decade after decade. Who would out of hate and anger not kill such human trash? Yet the same damned fools who voted for a grade five ASSistant drama teacher named turdo whose father I think killed the death penalty, are the same damned fools who in the coming election will vote for another bastardized criminal coddler.
The real murderers exist in the bureaucCRAPcies of western nations and on parole boards, damn them all.
Listening to that brief clip made me think of how I felt when I listened to some William Buckley JR years ago. There was likely a lot more critical thought going on with Buckley and valid critique but it was my gut reaction that's the same. An arrogant prig with no humility. Or as my mom would have said "Who died and left you boss?".
"Men can be so almost unbelievably easily sold on the idea of their exceptionalness." Great quote, Celia!!! It has kind of an "Oscar Wilde" flair to it. Have not watched the debate yet, but it is getting quite the buzz. Loved Glenn Greenwald's take on it.
Ironically Mr. Murray only a few short years ago was respected by some of us for his vocal support of the rights and free speech of women and girls in the face the assaults, physical and verbal, along with endless censorship efforts - by and from the "woke" gender-lunatics. As soon as the topic changed to "Gaza" however, his support for "free speech" miraculously evaporated with no visible evidence of this causing the least bit of cognitive dissonance for Mr. Murray. It was rather amazing to watch such an ethical implosion unfold in real time I must say. : /
I stopped listening to Murray quite a while back. This stemmed from his stance on Israel. What I see as his "Israel can do no wrong" bias made listening impossible. You provide an excellent example of his "disconnect."
This is very interesting. It is my contention that the 'woke' gender-lunatics are not grass-roots campaigners for the rights of 'trans people' at all but are deliberately and 'tactically' funded political groups like Stonewall (funded by Republicans and Tories as well as by the 'left') for the likes of Mr. Murray to ride the inevitable backlash. Just as Trump has done with the sickening image of him being surrounded by girls as he bans men from women's sport. These bastions of the patriarchy would take women's reproductive rights and send us back to the kitchen but they gain support for pointing out the obvious.
The free speech over absurd gender ideology (sex is not a construct), as over the absurd unevidenced 'covid' measures, was deliberately curtailed to produce opposition to it. Thus rose the Free Speech Union with BP funded Toby Young and Zionazi Douglas Murray. They do not, of course, support free speech at all, especially if you're pro-Palestinian. They support the white western patriarchy. They have been purposefully given prominence on the back of anti-woke by the establishment/deep state (big oil, big arms, big animal ag, big pharma, banking, surveillance (many Israeli companies) and big tech). The deep state is mainly US based but the UK and Israel are still unequal parts of the triumvirate.
Thankfully Oct 7th opened the eyes of many on the 'right' to the true nature of Murray et al.
am not a huge fan of @ComicDaveSmith but what he is saying on the @joeroganhq podcast was completely true. It appears to me that @DouglasKMurray is trying to protect the establishment, or more accurately, the globalists pushing these wars. After the attacks of 9-11, I deployed to the Middle East seven times and led the first Marine infantry company into Baghdad during the March Up. I believed the narrative our government was pushing. Now, I know it all to be a lie. 9-11 was an inside job. Don't believe me, look here: https://open.substack.com/pub/larrykaifesh/p/9-11-a-day-of-treason?r=1735ds&utm_medium=ios
I wish more people understood that 9/11 is the smoking gun of the global oligarchy.
Thank you for your service. And your honesty. Awareness dawns on each of us differently.
No apologies needed for doing what one believes is right at the time, given the deceit involved.
Murray sounds like a shill for the Privy Council. Maybe Rogan will have Neil Oliver on, eh?
Colonel, equally this ancient 0302, was very disappointed in Douglas Murray’s “performance” in the “debate” with Dave Smith on the Joe Rogan show. The “monkey” went right up on my back early in the podcast. Anyone who has dismissed Daryl Cooper as a non serious historian, simply has not listened to him or understand what he is trying to do. Who made Douglas Murray or Victor Davis Hanson the arbiters of who is and is not a historian of note. I cannot imagine the sense of betrayal you and many, many of “our” Marines have felt and feel regarding 911 and the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns. Regardless, you met the time, and carried on. Further, the Corps is in Deep trouble. We can’t let only Chowder Society II and the new SecDef and SecNav can start to set things to right. Semper Fi.
By now you've probably heard Curt Weldon in various interviews, but here's a link to him w/ Tucker. This has got to gain legs, especially his info concerning the Bush neocons taking us to unnecessary war in Afghanistan.
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tucker-w-curt-weldon-former-20-yr-r-congressman-blows-the-whistle-on-9-11/
Roger that, thank you for the heads up.
Couldn’t agree more. Murray is contemptuous of everyone he feels are his lessers. And that applies to almost everyone on Earth, it seems. These types of people, with these ugly qualities, are the most repulsive of all humanity, save for psychopaths. And perhaps he is that too. No one really knows what lies behind his snide, disdainful, darkly arrogant mind.
Honestly, I couldn't be bothered, or polluted rather, by investigating him. You have proved reliable enough! 😉 for me to give you this 'un. A male Karen. OMG.
"A male kitten" sums it up nicely. He has a bad habit of interrupting others and needs to be told to politely wait his turn or else.
As a gay man who is free to think and live according to his natural inclinations, you might think he wouldn't be a fan of censoring the thoughts and speech of others. He is living his life openly because of the freedom of thought and word which have made Western liberalism an aspirational example to those who live in repressive societies. He would probably not want to live in those societies that repress the thoughts and words of their populations.
He is putatively a member of the Euro elites, who have created actual criminal thought crimes and jail time for wrong speak. They believe they should be able to police your utterances, wherever in the world you are, and definitely prevent their promulgation on their own territory. FWIW, he doesn't have any talent in debate. I have seen high schoolers far more capable. They don't get points for being condescending.
U.S. is repressive and speech not free at least 8-10 y now.
Which country do you believe is the least repressive and has more opportunity to exercise free speech, compared to the USA?
Oh no! A few minutes minute ago I'd never heard of Douglas Murray. After watching that clip (which is hard to unwatch), I'm absolutely convinced he's a smug, unctuous prick, and possibly an asset of some sort. And now I'm spouting and spreading those outrageous thoughts to fellow morons on the internet, thus proving his point.
I’d never heard of him either, till now, and I wish I’d still never heard of him, because he’s an unbearable asshole.
Might I suggest that Alliance for Responsible Citizenship poster boy Jordan B Peterson - he of the infamous "Give 'em hell @netanyahu Enough is enough" tweet - is another contender for Chief Peacock.
Yes, it was his "envy" of Darryl that stood out to me in the first half of the show. Joe was great to be in Darryl's corner, though.
And the snotitude about Darryl's 30-hour podcast on something that I've already forgotten, "Well, Joe, you do that every week." Seriously, does he think Darryl doesn't spend hours researching the material, perhaps 4x the amount he tapes.
Oh, and the "Have you ever been to war-torn Palestine? I have. You should go." Like it is just a holiday. Murray is dishonest, he was sent there by his government to assess, not because he wanted to have a look-see. He probably jumped on it 'cuz it was a hop-skip to Tel Aviv.
"Snotitude." I love it.
Good and apt take on him, Celia. I have often tried to figure out where he belongs on the political spectrum, looks like "Woke Right" is a new one - and yes, he belongs there. He won't get far with the right here in the US though, being an agnostic or atheist. Good luck with that.
Trump is not a Christian either, but it doesn't matter. As long as he's white (well orange), pro-Israel, pro-'family values', the white christian nationalism will support him.
This might interest you. Trump wants people to expose anyone who has an anti Christian bias. How is that not MAGA DEI?
😏
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/crusade-against-anti-christian-bias?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=7677&post_id=161131712&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1o7ey8&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
"Men can be so almost unbelievably easily sold on the idea of their exceptionalness." - That made my day! Thank you.
Perhaps Celia with the pretty name will indulge me with an opportunity to expose a certain class of people as murderers.
Decades ago a pedophile came before a band of groupies who were the forerunners of the fools who invented the "catch and release" abomination made famous by demoCRAP FOOLS AND LIARS.
This group of libbie loons voted for the release of a pedophile who then entered life in a halfway house. Sometime one day he abducted a little girl, took her to his half way house, used a sardine lid to enable him to rape her and then strangled her to death. A suspicious officer came to see this murderer and forced his way into the room, looking under the bed to find a pool of blood and found the little girl dead between the mattress and box springs.
He was arrested and the psychologists listened to his voice as he recounted the enjoyment he had felt torturing the little girl. Was it hard to take? Hard enough to make the two shrinks cry like babies.
His trial ended with his incarceration until years later the convicts figured out he had done what he did to a little girl and finally shanked him (stabbed) to death. The same day it was publicized that the rapist had died, the father of this little girl who I knew called me and told me the good news. He listened to my happy voice but listened closer when I told him the irony was that the damned CYSTem and criminal coddling bastards had kept this criminal alive for decade and I hated them all.
Today we have damned stupid lefturds in every western nation with this catch and release insanity for violent criminals. Damn them all because it was not the perp who murdered the little girl. It was the stupid bastards who voted to release him. These lefturd bastards in the CYSTem need to be arrested, tried for complicity to murder and then executed.
This is the insanity in most western nations that reigns supreme and continues decade after decade. Who would out of hate and anger not kill such human trash? Yet the same damned fools who voted for a grade five ASSistant drama teacher named turdo whose father I think killed the death penalty, are the same damned fools who in the coming election will vote for another bastardized criminal coddler.
The real murderers exist in the bureaucCRAPcies of western nations and on parole boards, damn them all.
Always Edward
My only question after listening to this from Murray is: How much are the Zionists paying him?
Listening to that brief clip made me think of how I felt when I listened to some William Buckley JR years ago. There was likely a lot more critical thought going on with Buckley and valid critique but it was my gut reaction that's the same. An arrogant prig with no humility. Or as my mom would have said "Who died and left you boss?".
Mr Murray is just one of those human "waste-oids", looking for a purpose on this earth where they might drum up some attention for themselves........
"Men can be so almost unbelievably easily sold on the idea of their exceptionalness." Great quote, Celia!!! It has kind of an "Oscar Wilde" flair to it. Have not watched the debate yet, but it is getting quite the buzz. Loved Glenn Greenwald's take on it.
https://timothywiney.substack.com/p/snobbery-as-counterfit-intellect
https://timothywiney.substack.com/p/why-does-douglas-murray-get-out-of