Tucker Carlson Reflects On Putin Interview: His Reflections Bring Out What Was Not Immediately Evident In The Interview: Main Takeaway: Exposing The Lie Of Putin As Expansionist, Crazed To Conquer
Tucker Carlson Reflects On Putin Interview: His Reflections Bring Out What Was Not Immediately Evident In The Interview: Main Takeaway: Exposing The Lie Of Putin As Expansionist, Crazed To Conquer
Clear and concise.. brutal facts… things we never get from Western media…came in bucket loads during that two hour chitchat… Tucker did more listening than talking.. which is precisely the mark of a good interviewer.. we did not go there to tell Putin anything he did not already know…He gave use a lesson we didn’t want to hear… truth always hurts… I would want our world leaders to open and honest… but let’s face it.. they like to keep the real facts hidden.. which is why we are in such a mess.
Putes has been very consistent since before the start of the SMO. I think it was Dec 2021 when he delivered a set of security proposals for Europe to the EU, which were of course rejected by NATO. Said proposals will be enacted - the hard way, rather than through diplomacy - and NATO will probably cease to exist. If you look at Russia historically it's never been expansionist, mainly because it's a huge country with a comparatively small population. The USSR was an anomaly, and that happened due to Stalin's desire to de-Nazify Eastern Europe - something that the West agreed to do post WWII and then reneged on. See Operation Paperclip.
the only thing that can really be brought against him is forcing jabs onto the Russian people, just like everywhere else, which makes me think he is still somewhat attached to the WEF and the WHO people. On the other hand the way he spoke about globalism rather gave me the impression he wants world peace and world trading freely. Which are both good things
Your point is an important one - and telling. There is a reason those in power need everyone in the world injected with the poison. Perhaps it's just me and the mind games which have come to be recognized since 2020, but doesn't it feel like we're living in a poorly written serial drama and these people are all just actors working for the NWO blob? Some are pathetically bad actors, others are rather good at their craft. And we are nothing but peasants and cannon fodder.
you are right - apart from the ones who hold the strings, no one knows for sure what is going on. Putin was WEF once and was then removed, but is he or is he not still part of the plot, we do not know. One thing is for sure - he knows that when those who hold the strings are tired of someone, they just make them disappear. If he is not one of the puppeteers, they can cut him off anytime. So is everyone else, the lower on the range the less important we are. But we are many. The ones holding the strings are unknown right now, but if enough people were to wake up, we will start seeing who they are. They cannot keep hidden forever. And they also do not live forever (unless you are one of the devil-believers - then the devil might live forever - I am not in there)
Putin was never part of WEF. He was invited when he was young but did not take part. Since then, as Russia's main man, he has given some pretty scathing speeches at WEF, declaring their One World Government and Great Reset non and void because it does not operate on multipolar grounds. Do not be fooled by Sir Klaus Schwab's suggestion that Putin was a Young Global Leader. He was not. In fact, that scheme did not begin when Putin was a young man.
I am shocked that you don't know this, actually.
Putin's speeches can be found on the official Russian government website and I have been reading and sharing them for years.
You can find a long list of my posts mentioning Putin here:
There is some doubt that the Russian vaccines were the same as those administered via Pfizer and Moderna. It was the world's first registered combination vector vaccine for the prevention of COVID-19, having been registered on 11 August 2020.
The only apparent fact we Alt-Peasants can go by is that the globalists are opposed to Putin, as they are to Trump -- indicating some tension. Either these oppositions are controlled theater, or they indicate Putin and Trump are actually at odds with the globalists.
Putin despises the WEF and WHO. He’s aware of their plans and he knows that they are war profiteers. It’s why he’s pushing BRICS, so they can’t have any control over his economy. We are the reason for his unholy alliance with China, he didn’t want that.
Is any government official to be trusted? I am taking a “wait-and-see” attitude for the time being. I think the mainstream media is going to totally ignore this historic interview. That is their method of control.
Remember he is a globalist in his own right, apparently bringing in cbdc , think Gates is a great Guy and censorship is fine. So yes there is quite another side of him.
The best moment for me was the look on Tucker´s face when Putin, gently, and in a circumspect manner called him out as a CIA asset. Why anyone listens to Tucker is beyond me. He has been a bought and sold mockingbird asset from day one. He asked jejune questions, and at the end acted like he hadn't heard a word Mr Putin said. Now he's doing a new narrative for the man. Listening to President Putin is always a pleasure. He is one of the most respected leaders on the planet, with good reason.
I’m glad Carlson let Putin talk. I feel like there was so much more that Carlson could have drawn Putin out on in perhaps a more subtle way. My experience with many Russians is that they love telling a story, but want to do it in their own way. I felt (and I think Putin’s reaction confirmed) that Carlson was too abrupt with the “who blew up the pipeline” question. I don’t know what the time constraints were, but I got the impression that they were more set by Carlson than by Putin, and that Carlson may have been in a bit too much of a hurry to get the spectacular, headline-making revelation. It’s not really his fault, as that’s American culture, but his excellent interview might have been even better with a bit more self-awareness and a subtler approach, which I think may have made him more appealing to Putin and established a better rapport.
I would be a bit more careful with expressions like "brutal facts" when it comes to anything said by Putin. He starts this interview with a (linguistic) deception by conflating "Russia" with "Rus". That he does so deliberately can be deduced by the fact that he's clever enough to not mention both in one sentence but to switch back and forth between (I paraphrase) "the history of Russia" and historical facts concerning "Rus". This kind of comparison is as accurate as claiming that the history of modern day Germany started with some (randomly picked) group of people that spoke a Germanic language (please note, this is not an exact parallel of Putin's deception - this example serves only to highlight the level of inaccuracy of his statements).
"The next, very significant date in the history of Russia, was 988. This was the Baptism of Russia (...)" as opposed to the Russian original transcript of the same passage:
"Следующая, очень значимая дата в истории России, – 988 год. Это Крещение Руси (...)"
You may notice, even if you don't read Russian, that the original version has "(истории) России" and "(Крещение) Руси" whereas the official translation hast "(history of) Russia" and "(Baptism of) Russia".
Not to mention that on the English audio "Russia" and/or "Rus" are left out altogether a few times - understably so, because most likely the interpreter was too focused on conveying the rest of the message properly.
There are several Youtube videos of Putin's speeches with subtitles, too.
Here is a sophisticated statesman. He makes our leaders look like drug-crazed loose cannons. We don't have a single person who equals his level of education and culture. Except Kennedy, probably and a few other "voices in the wilderness."
My father was a US diplomat of the kind we don't have anymore. He used to cringe at that "sending a message" phrase. I wonder what he would have thought of all this. Our country looks like something out of Hunger Games now.
Mr. Carlson’s apparent surprise at the rich chronology presented by President Putin (based on several perplexed veiled requests for its ‘relevance,’ was curious, but also a pointer to how even the best of the best of our press has, alas, difficulty staying open to the possibilities that our own preconceived/received ideas about [Russia. Putin, *especially Putin; pretty much any culture or system not our own, and it’s *history* ...This interview, if you listen carefully to the first half, offers critical, vital, and astonishing insights within that history lesson, and by extension a challenge, if we are up to it, to rigorously examine the long impact of the auto centric posture of ‘the West’ toward not only Asia/Russia, but toward the vast and extremely relevant scope of history other than our own (which, tellingly, we too often bury or if we cannot then twist it to our purposes...) What a gift this interview is! A conversation it surely was, and the ‘lessons’ are many and valuable...if we are open to them. Great work, much generosity, many thanks!!
Yes, Mary! When Tucker did that, he revealed himself. "Relevance?" OMG...It told me that Tucker did not 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 understand to whom he was speaking. It revealed Tucker did not/does not appear to appreciate the impact of and the necessity of understanding the history of a people...especially the history of a great people who've been through hell and back and how it is relevant to today.
The history lesson was necessary to combat the more than several Europeans, as well as others, who argue that, historically, Russia has no claim to any portion of current day Ukraine and Russian speaking Ukrainians have no claim to being Russian.
I agree. Those facts -- or interpretations -- of a thousand years of history had to be stated for those listening, Americans especially. History to a nation more than a 1,000 years old is of great importance and of relevance to today. Are you getting that, Tucker?
What history do Americans have that compares? None, of course.
Does that not say more about us? Our lauded source of truth, Tucker intones Twinkle Twinkle as Putin resonates a Shakespearean complexity.
I do respect Tucker for seeming to have had the consciousness that he was being led.
Makes me want to leave the country...I don’t want to move in with the bear and most definitely fear the Dragon.....but Russia made my culture feel puerile.
The bear tucked the talker under his arm and walked him through histories.
Why didn’t we hear growlings about the bio labs? Putin also failed to summarily list.that about which he had decried: his concerns were widely spaced. Mr. Bear also did not ask how America would respond to the types of aggressions inflicted on Russia. He did not post a website with facts written in English. The images of the abuse of Nazis on Russians living in Ukraine would have disturbed Himler—ghastly. Putin had Americans listening! Why speak at a graduate level to fifth graders (God help America!).
very well said SheThinksLIberty! the western ego-centrism is terrible. One only has to look at Russian buildings and hear their music - these are not barbarians! Makes me indeed think of the Romans talking about everyone else as barbarians...
He knows the West well! I’m sure he watches our “news shows” and laughs! It will be interesting to watch how our jokes for media talking heads respond, or not, to what must be a frightening moment for them. I hope someone more qualified than me will make a compilation of all the comments and expose their propaganda! This may be the greatest gift from this interview!🤣
Putin exposed Carlson as the vacuous entertainer that he is.
I was bemused by the lengthy 'history lesson' which was clearly directed at the American audience.
Go to Russia: Get schooled.
The only thing that has been revealed through this interview is that US "Progressive" politicians and media are deeply committed to totalitarian censorship and the silencing of their opponents.
What the history lesson truly exposed is the current Western powers' attempt to initiate Year Zero. TPTB want all history erased, nations destroyed and context removed. Putin exposed that in his description of the "Hungarian men" in Ukraine. Masterful subliminal persuasion.
The history lesson had many points but if you really believe that Russia stands in the way of TPTB, I suggest you follow Riley Waggaman aka Edward Slavsquat. His insights, observations and news summaries from within the Russian Federation are far and away better than anything you get from the standard, under informed geopolitical commentary.
Russia is following the same script as the rest:
Putin - "The world should be a single whole..That is the only scenario where the world could be stable, sustainable and predictable.."
Linda - and that is exactly why I definitely & deliberately placed my faith in Christ & His promises at age 19 after a long, skeptic journey… because life is short & eternity is long.
Who must consume your flesh to live, and who might ally with you in the longer term, the rest of your life, if you do your part and risk fighting the "other".
Hopium is a special sort of cognitive dissonance - and we have had plenty of that in this psyop.
The latest members of Team Putin (the vast majority of whom have never been to Russia) actually seem to believe that Putin is a pious man: Putin is no more a true Russian Orthodox than King Charles is a true Christian.
Every aspect of 4IR and The Great Reset is mirrored in Russia:
Russia has advanced facial AI systems that equal or excel those in China; government-owned Sberbank hosted the Cyber Polygon 2020 conference and is well on its way to developing digital currency; the Ministry of Education of Belgorod Oblast wants to create “social maps” of all children and adolescents in order to “comprehensively analyze and evaluate their personalities”; Sber has developed digital recognition for pets and children at school and is working on a SMART city.
Russia routinely imprisons dissidents: the latest high profile detainee is Igor Strelkov, a Russian patriot and ex-Donbass commander.
...but it is this new set of 'Info Terrorism' laws that truly takes the cake:
Spreading 'fakes' is now punishable with fines, prison time & property confiscation.
"Russia’s upper house of parliament on Wednesday unanimously approved a law that allows for confiscation of property and deprivation of military ranks and honorary titles for activities directed against the state, as well as for discrediting the country’s armed forces."
"A human brain is divided into two hemispheres: one is responsible for one type of activities, the other one is more about creativity and so on. But it is still one and the same head. The world should be a single whole, security should be shared, rather than meant for the ”golden billion“. That is the only scenario where the world could be stable, sustainable and predictable. Until then, while the head is split into two parts, it is an illness, a serious adverse condition. It is a period of a severe disease that the world is now going through."
I dont disagree. What was apparent was his unwillingness to discuss how the western banking fraternity went on their usual pillage fest in the 90s. He kept the discussion at a very normy geopolitical level. Which does corroborate your assertion.
Carlson has done, and is doing some very good and important journalism, but he was shown to be out of his element in this case. I don't think he's very well-versed in geopolitics but he does a good job of addressing important domestic issues that msm has been ignoring and burying for years.
I do think this will make Tucker a better journalist and I hope to see him continuing to branch out, but I think his strength will always be his areas of concern within the U.S., as it should be imo.
Yes, Celia, and I was also struck with the contrast between the contextual history of Russia and that of the US. What a wholly different set of circumstance and experience. Putin reflected the complex and deep wisdom of an old soul country in contrast to the upstart adolescent surety of America.
Thank you, Gene. Yes, it certainly would be puzzling were an Israeli official present. That's why I wanted to double-check what I thought I heard. I will have to read the transcript, plus hubs and I plan to watch again.
"Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett also confirmed that the West had blocked a potential peace deal in an interview posted to his YouTube channel in February this year. Bennett, who was participating in the talks between Ukraine and Russia ..."
some years ago, i was in a doctor's waiting room with a large flat screen tv blaring the news at an uncomfortable volume because, you know, americans can't wait in silence with their thoughts or quietly read a book or something.
a young man was there with me, watching the news as intently as i was trying to tune it out. he happened to be an american who had married a belgium woman and had been living in europe for some years. he was just back visiting (it was an alternative doctor so he was probably there like i was for a high dose vitamin IV) and was stunned at how USA centric and hyped up american news was. i remember he said in shock "really, they spend that much time on a baseball game?! there's an entire world out there but you couldn't tell from this!"
as the costume director of a major american arts festival for 40 years before i was dismissed for not taking a covid vaccine, i spent a lot of time with europeans from many countries. they could all speak multiple languages, while i could only speak my own and a bit of high school french and they were familiar with what was going on in the world, including but not limited to the USA.
they did not seem to to live in a continual dopamine rush.
kudos to tucker. it took him a few minutes but he eventually realized that this interview could only occur on the interviewee's time line.
this is the problem with becoming a world power when you are too young as a nation to have the profound wisdom required to exercise such power properly.
So many excellent observations here, Celia, thank you. American ADD is spot on.
Do you s'pose Tucker found himself between a rock and a hard place? Remember a few years ago when Megyn Kelly tried to manhandled Putin in an interview? And fast forward to today, when much of the West already pegged Tucker as "on Putin's side." He absolutely had to not fit that description. Tough spot.
"Are we going to do theater, or have a serious discussion?" Provocative as an opener, but wow didn't it come alive in good time!? What a wet dream to have a statesman of that caliber as the US president. A tiny minority view, of course.
I've only watched the first 20 mins of Tucker so far, so still undergoing a history lesson. The Oliver Stone interviews are top notch. Definitely worth a view.
A couple things after watching the post interview.
I grew up in the Cold War under the threat of nuclear annihilation, going through duck and cover drills in school, and most schools had some sort of fallout shelter. Watching films that were designed to keep kids terrified of our imminent destruction by the godless Soviet Bear had a detrimental effect upon the future leadership of Americans. As I look back, living under MAD (mutual assured destruction) created an anxiety that to one degree or another, still exists today.
So the collapse of the Soviet Union was a time of jubilation because the threat was suddenly spun 180 degrees into a hopeful and peaceful future in which the Bear was transformed into a possible ally using economic trade by integrating Russia with the rest of the western world. If we played our cards right.
So I think that those of us who grew up in the sixties through the eighties can understand Putin’s anger and frustration about being treated so terribly by the United States government, because speaking for myself, I am totally angry and frustrated by my government’s stupidity and shortsighted policies that have destroyed not just the opportunity for friendship with Russia, but also the destruction of Ukraine and over a half million young men who were killed fighting a United States funded proxy war that only benefits the same people who profited from all the wars my country has imposed on the world.
As long as the country keeps electing the Uniparty candidates of wars and dominance, the destruction of the United States is inevitable because like myself the rest of the world will eventually become united against us. Nobody likes a bully.
The overthrow of Milosevic being a key point in his discussion of threats to Russia is very important. That was a moment in which it was clear that the US was intending to destabilize and conduct regime change in Europe as we had long done in Latin America.
Then he pointed out how he discovered CIA backed terrorist entities in the North Caucasus, i.e. the Chechen Wars. In other words, he was showing how regime change was also to be aimed at Russia.
Of course, the same strategy was used in Ukraine and possibly also failed in Belarus. Putin sketched how reasonable it is for Russia to believe that the West's goal since the end of the cold war has been regime change in Russia, which explains, for instance, Hillary's fascination with Rosneft, the Russian energy company.
The real problem then is the failure of us, the American people, to reign in the rapacious intent of our federal government in its overseas misadventures. Partly this is because all of their activities are shrouded in layer upon layer of lies and partly because Americans learn in school that their country is the good guy and therefore have trouble understanding that the polar opposite is the true when it comes to foreign affairs.
However, there is another real danger that since the lies are increasingly obvious regarding policies like our support for Ukraine, many Americans are starting to ask questions. The danger then is that they may conduct a sort of regime change here, in the US, but with a twist: they'll change out much of the population at the same time as they destroy the rule of law, since the problem here is not their leadership (in their minds) but our increasing unwillingness to go along.
May be the resident did indeed meet dead leaders. Is he even still alive?
As to Putin, I do not like the man, but you gotto give him this. He is probably the most informed leader in the world right now. He knows how things came to be, carefully danced around most of the sore toes (except those he wanted to hit) and indeed, gave a very informative talk. Tucker seemed to be rather nervous and he better be. He is persona non grata in most of the western countries now. I am sure Orban will still host him. During the interview I was thinking how well Putin and Ron Paul would get along. Two peace-minded, less-control-minded people. Russia was probably worst off under the Trotsky-Lenin combo, which was obviously sponsored by American finances, as was Hitler. Let us not forget that. 2 of the largest disasters in world history were sponsored by American donors.
BIG everything. Big banks destroying the monetary world, Big AG distroying agriculture, BIG harma destroying health. Big countries destroying country. The USSR separated, and then the west made the EU, a disaster bigger than the US IMO
As you suggest and others think, that's not really Biden and his body is in deep freeze somewhere. Or perhaps Biden is 'communing' with dead leaders through mediums or a Ouiji board. With this government, nothing seems beyond the realm of possibility!
there is at least one body double. Dad told me a while ago that in Europe, they have clips where biden ('s double) is talking away. I have not seen these clips here. I think they make clips for Europe, and will have to look if I still can find them. At least one time about 2 years ago, 2 clips from the same day, only hours apart, showed a biden totally different from the other LOL
I thinkit has been a while since a president has been running this country ! I am not sure if any country is run by its president. May be some like China
What about the two Putins? I appreciate the interview very much, but there is a huge elephant in the room here. The original Putin looks COMPLETELY different than the current Putin. It changed around 2011, I believe. It's a much bigger difference than the "Biden double", imho.
The new Putin looks more kind, at peace and healthier. His head shape and face proportions are very distinct from the first guy.
Thank you for these wonderful reflections. I hope the world will change to the better through this sincere and wise conversation of Mr. Carlson and Putin.
Clear and concise.. brutal facts… things we never get from Western media…came in bucket loads during that two hour chitchat… Tucker did more listening than talking.. which is precisely the mark of a good interviewer.. we did not go there to tell Putin anything he did not already know…He gave use a lesson we didn’t want to hear… truth always hurts… I would want our world leaders to open and honest… but let’s face it.. they like to keep the real facts hidden.. which is why we are in such a mess.
Well stated. I concur with your assessment .
Than you.
Half of me agrees with you, but the other half says “ Is Putin to be trusted?”
Putes has been very consistent since before the start of the SMO. I think it was Dec 2021 when he delivered a set of security proposals for Europe to the EU, which were of course rejected by NATO. Said proposals will be enacted - the hard way, rather than through diplomacy - and NATO will probably cease to exist. If you look at Russia historically it's never been expansionist, mainly because it's a huge country with a comparatively small population. The USSR was an anomaly, and that happened due to Stalin's desire to de-Nazify Eastern Europe - something that the West agreed to do post WWII and then reneged on. See Operation Paperclip.
the only thing that can really be brought against him is forcing jabs onto the Russian people, just like everywhere else, which makes me think he is still somewhat attached to the WEF and the WHO people. On the other hand the way he spoke about globalism rather gave me the impression he wants world peace and world trading freely. Which are both good things
Your point is an important one - and telling. There is a reason those in power need everyone in the world injected with the poison. Perhaps it's just me and the mind games which have come to be recognized since 2020, but doesn't it feel like we're living in a poorly written serial drama and these people are all just actors working for the NWO blob? Some are pathetically bad actors, others are rather good at their craft. And we are nothing but peasants and cannon fodder.
you are right - apart from the ones who hold the strings, no one knows for sure what is going on. Putin was WEF once and was then removed, but is he or is he not still part of the plot, we do not know. One thing is for sure - he knows that when those who hold the strings are tired of someone, they just make them disappear. If he is not one of the puppeteers, they can cut him off anytime. So is everyone else, the lower on the range the less important we are. But we are many. The ones holding the strings are unknown right now, but if enough people were to wake up, we will start seeing who they are. They cannot keep hidden forever. And they also do not live forever (unless you are one of the devil-believers - then the devil might live forever - I am not in there)
Putin was never part of WEF. He was invited when he was young but did not take part. Since then, as Russia's main man, he has given some pretty scathing speeches at WEF, declaring their One World Government and Great Reset non and void because it does not operate on multipolar grounds. Do not be fooled by Sir Klaus Schwab's suggestion that Putin was a Young Global Leader. He was not. In fact, that scheme did not begin when Putin was a young man.
I am shocked that you don't know this, actually.
Putin's speeches can be found on the official Russian government website and I have been reading and sharing them for years.
You can find a long list of my posts mentioning Putin here:
https://substack.com/search/putin?focusedPublicationId=667911&searching=focused_posts
Your other point, regarding the vaccines:
There is some doubt that the Russian vaccines were the same as those administered via Pfizer and Moderna. It was the world's first registered combination vector vaccine for the prevention of COVID-19, having been registered on 11 August 2020.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_V_COVID-19_vaccine
The only apparent fact we Alt-Peasants can go by is that the globalists are opposed to Putin, as they are to Trump -- indicating some tension. Either these oppositions are controlled theater, or they indicate Putin and Trump are actually at odds with the globalists.
Putin despises the WEF and WHO. He’s aware of their plans and he knows that they are war profiteers. It’s why he’s pushing BRICS, so they can’t have any control over his economy. We are the reason for his unholy alliance with China, he didn’t want that.
If Putin "despises" the WEF so much, then why does his government reaffirm repeatedly the very same SDG's shared by the WEF? 🤔🤔🤔
https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/putin-warns-the-wef-says-schwab-will-fail-and-his-days-are-numbered-and-on-trudeau-honoring-a-nazi.58496/
Is any government official to be trusted? I am taking a “wait-and-see” attitude for the time being. I think the mainstream media is going to totally ignore this historic interview. That is their method of control.
I think you already know the answer to that question.
Remember he is a globalist in his own right, apparently bringing in cbdc , think Gates is a great Guy and censorship is fine. So yes there is quite another side of him.
The best moment for me was the look on Tucker´s face when Putin, gently, and in a circumspect manner called him out as a CIA asset. Why anyone listens to Tucker is beyond me. He has been a bought and sold mockingbird asset from day one. He asked jejune questions, and at the end acted like he hadn't heard a word Mr Putin said. Now he's doing a new narrative for the man. Listening to President Putin is always a pleasure. He is one of the most respected leaders on the planet, with good reason.
Yep! I watched Tucker freeze when Putin mentioned the CIA. That was GOLD!!
He failed to probe two important things:
Trump
Evidence of a war in Ukraine
I'm curious, Hesperado. What do you mean by "He failed to probe ...evidence of a war in Ukraine"?
I watched the interview carefully -- it was very good.
I'm sorry to see Carlson's "journalism" in the Moscow subway and a grocery store; it seemed that he had to do it -- they were making a fool of him.
I’m glad Carlson let Putin talk. I feel like there was so much more that Carlson could have drawn Putin out on in perhaps a more subtle way. My experience with many Russians is that they love telling a story, but want to do it in their own way. I felt (and I think Putin’s reaction confirmed) that Carlson was too abrupt with the “who blew up the pipeline” question. I don’t know what the time constraints were, but I got the impression that they were more set by Carlson than by Putin, and that Carlson may have been in a bit too much of a hurry to get the spectacular, headline-making revelation. It’s not really his fault, as that’s American culture, but his excellent interview might have been even better with a bit more self-awareness and a subtler approach, which I think may have made him more appealing to Putin and established a better rapport.
I would be a bit more careful with expressions like "brutal facts" when it comes to anything said by Putin. He starts this interview with a (linguistic) deception by conflating "Russia" with "Rus". That he does so deliberately can be deduced by the fact that he's clever enough to not mention both in one sentence but to switch back and forth between (I paraphrase) "the history of Russia" and historical facts concerning "Rus". This kind of comparison is as accurate as claiming that the history of modern day Germany started with some (randomly picked) group of people that spoke a Germanic language (please note, this is not an exact parallel of Putin's deception - this example serves only to highlight the level of inaccuracy of his statements).
An additional layer of disingenuousness is added with the official English transcript of this interview (see her: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411 ) where it says:
"The next, very significant date in the history of Russia, was 988. This was the Baptism of Russia (...)" as opposed to the Russian original transcript of the same passage:
"Следующая, очень значимая дата в истории России, – 988 год. Это Крещение Руси (...)"
You may notice, even if you don't read Russian, that the original version has "(истории) России" and "(Крещение) Руси" whereas the official translation hast "(history of) Russia" and "(Baptism of) Russia".
Not to mention that on the English audio "Russia" and/or "Rus" are left out altogether a few times - understably so, because most likely the interpreter was too focused on conveying the rest of the message properly.
Ukraine on Fire by Oliver Stone is definitely worth watching. Not just a single interview.
There are several Youtube videos of Putin's speeches with subtitles, too.
Here is a sophisticated statesman. He makes our leaders look like drug-crazed loose cannons. We don't have a single person who equals his level of education and culture. Except Kennedy, probably and a few other "voices in the wilderness."
My father was a US diplomat of the kind we don't have anymore. He used to cringe at that "sending a message" phrase. I wonder what he would have thought of all this. Our country looks like something out of Hunger Games now.
Will we have a show, or a serious conversation, Mr Tucker?
Mr. Carlson’s apparent surprise at the rich chronology presented by President Putin (based on several perplexed veiled requests for its ‘relevance,’ was curious, but also a pointer to how even the best of the best of our press has, alas, difficulty staying open to the possibilities that our own preconceived/received ideas about [Russia. Putin, *especially Putin; pretty much any culture or system not our own, and it’s *history* ...This interview, if you listen carefully to the first half, offers critical, vital, and astonishing insights within that history lesson, and by extension a challenge, if we are up to it, to rigorously examine the long impact of the auto centric posture of ‘the West’ toward not only Asia/Russia, but toward the vast and extremely relevant scope of history other than our own (which, tellingly, we too often bury or if we cannot then twist it to our purposes...) What a gift this interview is! A conversation it surely was, and the ‘lessons’ are many and valuable...if we are open to them. Great work, much generosity, many thanks!!
Yes, Mary! When Tucker did that, he revealed himself. "Relevance?" OMG...It told me that Tucker did not 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 understand to whom he was speaking. It revealed Tucker did not/does not appear to appreciate the impact of and the necessity of understanding the history of a people...especially the history of a great people who've been through hell and back and how it is relevant to today.
The history lesson was necessary to combat the more than several Europeans, as well as others, who argue that, historically, Russia has no claim to any portion of current day Ukraine and Russian speaking Ukrainians have no claim to being Russian.
I agree. Those facts -- or interpretations -- of a thousand years of history had to be stated for those listening, Americans especially. History to a nation more than a 1,000 years old is of great importance and of relevance to today. Are you getting that, Tucker?
What history do Americans have that compares? None, of course.
Does that not say more about us? Our lauded source of truth, Tucker intones Twinkle Twinkle as Putin resonates a Shakespearean complexity.
I do respect Tucker for seeming to have had the consciousness that he was being led.
Makes me want to leave the country...I don’t want to move in with the bear and most definitely fear the Dragon.....but Russia made my culture feel puerile.
The bear tucked the talker under his arm and walked him through histories.
Why didn’t we hear growlings about the bio labs? Putin also failed to summarily list.that about which he had decried: his concerns were widely spaced. Mr. Bear also did not ask how America would respond to the types of aggressions inflicted on Russia. He did not post a website with facts written in English. The images of the abuse of Nazis on Russians living in Ukraine would have disturbed Himler—ghastly. Putin had Americans listening! Why speak at a graduate level to fifth graders (God help America!).
Was this not a covert, erudite slam?
very well said SheThinksLIberty! the western ego-centrism is terrible. One only has to look at Russian buildings and hear their music - these are not barbarians! Makes me indeed think of the Romans talking about everyone else as barbarians...
He knows the West well! I’m sure he watches our “news shows” and laughs! It will be interesting to watch how our jokes for media talking heads respond, or not, to what must be a frightening moment for them. I hope someone more qualified than me will make a compilation of all the comments and expose their propaganda! This may be the greatest gift from this interview!🤣
I will have to listen to these 2 hours a few times, it was so informative we never get that on regular basis
Putin exposed Carlson as the vacuous entertainer that he is.
I was bemused by the lengthy 'history lesson' which was clearly directed at the American audience.
Go to Russia: Get schooled.
The only thing that has been revealed through this interview is that US "Progressive" politicians and media are deeply committed to totalitarian censorship and the silencing of their opponents.
What the history lesson truly exposed is the current Western powers' attempt to initiate Year Zero. TPTB want all history erased, nations destroyed and context removed. Putin exposed that in his description of the "Hungarian men" in Ukraine. Masterful subliminal persuasion.
The history lesson had many points but if you really believe that Russia stands in the way of TPTB, I suggest you follow Riley Waggaman aka Edward Slavsquat. His insights, observations and news summaries from within the Russian Federation are far and away better than anything you get from the standard, under informed geopolitical commentary.
Russia is following the same script as the rest:
Putin - "The world should be a single whole..That is the only scenario where the world could be stable, sustainable and predictable.."
That was the exact Putin quote that stood out to me like a sore thumb.
The Putin quote? 𝑹𝒆𝒎𝒆𝒎𝒃𝒆𝒓...that is a 𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒔𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏.
Translate it then.
My point still stands.
No on is here to save you.
Linda - and that is exactly why I definitely & deliberately placed my faith in Christ & His promises at age 19 after a long, skeptic journey… because life is short & eternity is long.
Romans 8:38,39
IDK but the quote sounded ominous and I haven't even watched it yet.
The world a single whole... NWO where we can all live as one
Sustainable... save the world and depop crap
Predictable... human tracking and control
Exactly.
It appears you have completely missed the point, Linda O.
"No one is here to save you." Indeed.
Who must consume your flesh to live, and who might ally with you in the longer term, the rest of your life, if you do your part and risk fighting the "other".
Hopium is a special sort of cognitive dissonance - and we have had plenty of that in this psyop.
The latest members of Team Putin (the vast majority of whom have never been to Russia) actually seem to believe that Putin is a pious man: Putin is no more a true Russian Orthodox than King Charles is a true Christian.
Every aspect of 4IR and The Great Reset is mirrored in Russia:
Russia has advanced facial AI systems that equal or excel those in China; government-owned Sberbank hosted the Cyber Polygon 2020 conference and is well on its way to developing digital currency; the Ministry of Education of Belgorod Oblast wants to create “social maps” of all children and adolescents in order to “comprehensively analyze and evaluate their personalities”; Sber has developed digital recognition for pets and children at school and is working on a SMART city.
Russia routinely imprisons dissidents: the latest high profile detainee is Igor Strelkov, a Russian patriot and ex-Donbass commander.
...but it is this new set of 'Info Terrorism' laws that truly takes the cake:
Spreading 'fakes' is now punishable with fines, prison time & property confiscation.
"Russia’s upper house of parliament on Wednesday unanimously approved a law that allows for confiscation of property and deprivation of military ranks and honorary titles for activities directed against the state, as well as for discrediting the country’s armed forces."
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Had the same thought! Be nice to see the Russian sentence (I don’t know but a few words, though surely could locate someone who does.)
Selective quoting does not suffice:
"A human brain is divided into two hemispheres: one is responsible for one type of activities, the other one is more about creativity and so on. But it is still one and the same head. The world should be a single whole, security should be shared, rather than meant for the ”golden billion“. That is the only scenario where the world could be stable, sustainable and predictable. Until then, while the head is split into two parts, it is an illness, a serious adverse condition. It is a period of a severe disease that the world is now going through."
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411
It wasn't selective: he is calling for one world government.
The Plan is to make it sound cushty..and to sell it as The Solution.
Cold War. BRICS. World War.
Enter the Dragon(s) who will Unite all People under Everlasting Peace.
This is my interpretation of this statement - because I know that Russia is In. On. It.
I dont disagree. What was apparent was his unwillingness to discuss how the western banking fraternity went on their usual pillage fest in the 90s. He kept the discussion at a very normy geopolitical level. Which does corroborate your assertion.
I see. I think.
Are you referring to the looting of the former Soviet by the banking fraternity in cahoots with Russian gangsters and ex-KGB?
Yes
Carlson has done, and is doing some very good and important journalism, but he was shown to be out of his element in this case. I don't think he's very well-versed in geopolitics but he does a good job of addressing important domestic issues that msm has been ignoring and burying for years.
I do think this will make Tucker a better journalist and I hope to see him continuing to branch out, but I think his strength will always be his areas of concern within the U.S., as it should be imo.
Yes, Celia, and I was also struck with the contrast between the contextual history of Russia and that of the US. What a wholly different set of circumstance and experience. Putin reflected the complex and deep wisdom of an old soul country in contrast to the upstart adolescent surety of America.
Like comparing chalk with cheese..but an excellent point.
Russia is not expansionist.
Johnson did the bidding of the FJB administration and scuttled a peace deal with Zelensky.
Well, the truth does make Nuland the bad person.
Such would have killed FJB'S money laundering operation bounce back of funds to the Donkies.
NATO is expansionist… which is what led to the Ukraine issue…provocation needs an end point.. or surrender.
NATO, the 1949 North Atlantic Treaty Organization, was formed after WWII to act as a deterrent to the threat of Soviet expansion in Europe.
In 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed and the Warsaw Pact was dissolved.
Ostensibly the end of the Cold War.
Since then, 15 countries have joined NATO, nearly effectively geographically isolating Russia.
Yes, so who is expansionist?
In 1947 Curtis Lemay wanted to bomb the Soviet Union into the Stone Age.
NATO was the alternative.
You are correct. 😎👍
BOOM! 🤯
Gene, did Tucker say that at that meeting where Boris scuttled the peace deal that the Israelis were in the room..?
STL-
Good morning from Brasil.
I do not recall a specific reference to Israel being in the room in Istanbul.
Would be puzzling were an Israeli official present as a non NATO member.
Gene
Thank you, Gene. Yes, it certainly would be puzzling were an Israeli official present. That's why I wanted to double-check what I thought I heard. I will have to read the transcript, plus hubs and I plan to watch again.
You are most welcome. Always.
Enjoy being in touch with you. Thank you for the connection. Please remain in touch to share your views and hope for a better future for the USA.
The same here, Gene. I will certainly appreciate hearing your views from your vantage point in Brazil.
I do pray for a better future, but there are days when I am less than hopeful. "We" in the U.S. have certainly gotten ourselves into world of hurt.
Make of it what you will:
"Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett also confirmed that the West had blocked a potential peace deal in an interview posted to his YouTube channel in February this year. Bennett, who was participating in the talks between Ukraine and Russia ..."
https://www.intellinews.com/top-ukrainian-politician-oleksiy-arestovych-gives-seventh-confirmation-of-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-agreed-in-march-2022-302876/
some years ago, i was in a doctor's waiting room with a large flat screen tv blaring the news at an uncomfortable volume because, you know, americans can't wait in silence with their thoughts or quietly read a book or something.
a young man was there with me, watching the news as intently as i was trying to tune it out. he happened to be an american who had married a belgium woman and had been living in europe for some years. he was just back visiting (it was an alternative doctor so he was probably there like i was for a high dose vitamin IV) and was stunned at how USA centric and hyped up american news was. i remember he said in shock "really, they spend that much time on a baseball game?! there's an entire world out there but you couldn't tell from this!"
as the costume director of a major american arts festival for 40 years before i was dismissed for not taking a covid vaccine, i spent a lot of time with europeans from many countries. they could all speak multiple languages, while i could only speak my own and a bit of high school french and they were familiar with what was going on in the world, including but not limited to the USA.
they did not seem to to live in a continual dopamine rush.
kudos to tucker. it took him a few minutes but he eventually realized that this interview could only occur on the interviewee's time line.
this is the problem with becoming a world power when you are too young as a nation to have the profound wisdom required to exercise such power properly.
thank you
So many excellent observations here, Celia, thank you. American ADD is spot on.
Do you s'pose Tucker found himself between a rock and a hard place? Remember a few years ago when Megyn Kelly tried to manhandled Putin in an interview? And fast forward to today, when much of the West already pegged Tucker as "on Putin's side." He absolutely had to not fit that description. Tough spot.
"Are we going to do theater, or have a serious discussion?" Provocative as an opener, but wow didn't it come alive in good time!? What a wet dream to have a statesman of that caliber as the US president. A tiny minority view, of course.
I've only watched the first 20 mins of Tucker so far, so still undergoing a history lesson. The Oliver Stone interviews are top notch. Definitely worth a view.
A couple things after watching the post interview.
I grew up in the Cold War under the threat of nuclear annihilation, going through duck and cover drills in school, and most schools had some sort of fallout shelter. Watching films that were designed to keep kids terrified of our imminent destruction by the godless Soviet Bear had a detrimental effect upon the future leadership of Americans. As I look back, living under MAD (mutual assured destruction) created an anxiety that to one degree or another, still exists today.
So the collapse of the Soviet Union was a time of jubilation because the threat was suddenly spun 180 degrees into a hopeful and peaceful future in which the Bear was transformed into a possible ally using economic trade by integrating Russia with the rest of the western world. If we played our cards right.
So I think that those of us who grew up in the sixties through the eighties can understand Putin’s anger and frustration about being treated so terribly by the United States government, because speaking for myself, I am totally angry and frustrated by my government’s stupidity and shortsighted policies that have destroyed not just the opportunity for friendship with Russia, but also the destruction of Ukraine and over a half million young men who were killed fighting a United States funded proxy war that only benefits the same people who profited from all the wars my country has imposed on the world.
As long as the country keeps electing the Uniparty candidates of wars and dominance, the destruction of the United States is inevitable because like myself the rest of the world will eventually become united against us. Nobody likes a bully.
The overthrow of Milosevic being a key point in his discussion of threats to Russia is very important. That was a moment in which it was clear that the US was intending to destabilize and conduct regime change in Europe as we had long done in Latin America.
Then he pointed out how he discovered CIA backed terrorist entities in the North Caucasus, i.e. the Chechen Wars. In other words, he was showing how regime change was also to be aimed at Russia.
Of course, the same strategy was used in Ukraine and possibly also failed in Belarus. Putin sketched how reasonable it is for Russia to believe that the West's goal since the end of the cold war has been regime change in Russia, which explains, for instance, Hillary's fascination with Rosneft, the Russian energy company.
The real problem then is the failure of us, the American people, to reign in the rapacious intent of our federal government in its overseas misadventures. Partly this is because all of their activities are shrouded in layer upon layer of lies and partly because Americans learn in school that their country is the good guy and therefore have trouble understanding that the polar opposite is the true when it comes to foreign affairs.
However, there is another real danger that since the lies are increasingly obvious regarding policies like our support for Ukraine, many Americans are starting to ask questions. The danger then is that they may conduct a sort of regime change here, in the US, but with a twist: they'll change out much of the population at the same time as they destroy the rule of law, since the problem here is not their leadership (in their minds) but our increasing unwillingness to go along.
May be the resident did indeed meet dead leaders. Is he even still alive?
As to Putin, I do not like the man, but you gotto give him this. He is probably the most informed leader in the world right now. He knows how things came to be, carefully danced around most of the sore toes (except those he wanted to hit) and indeed, gave a very informative talk. Tucker seemed to be rather nervous and he better be. He is persona non grata in most of the western countries now. I am sure Orban will still host him. During the interview I was thinking how well Putin and Ron Paul would get along. Two peace-minded, less-control-minded people. Russia was probably worst off under the Trotsky-Lenin combo, which was obviously sponsored by American finances, as was Hitler. Let us not forget that. 2 of the largest disasters in world history were sponsored by American donors.
Ingrid - American AND Central Bank oligarchs
BIG everything. Big banks destroying the monetary world, Big AG distroying agriculture, BIG harma destroying health. Big countries destroying country. The USSR separated, and then the west made the EU, a disaster bigger than the US IMO
As you suggest and others think, that's not really Biden and his body is in deep freeze somewhere. Or perhaps Biden is 'communing' with dead leaders through mediums or a Ouiji board. With this government, nothing seems beyond the realm of possibility!
there is at least one body double. Dad told me a while ago that in Europe, they have clips where biden ('s double) is talking away. I have not seen these clips here. I think they make clips for Europe, and will have to look if I still can find them. At least one time about 2 years ago, 2 clips from the same day, only hours apart, showed a biden totally different from the other LOL
Would love to see them. I've seen posts on X where people compare earlobes etc and show they don't match.
One thing we do know for sure -- Biden sure ain't running the country!
I thinkit has been a while since a president has been running this country ! I am not sure if any country is run by its president. May be some like China
Yes, agree. It's amazing how many people I know think the president is actually in charge. I think it's that 'strong man' syndrome.
What about the two Putins? I appreciate the interview very much, but there is a huge elephant in the room here. The original Putin looks COMPLETELY different than the current Putin. It changed around 2011, I believe. It's a much bigger difference than the "Biden double", imho.
The new Putin looks more kind, at peace and healthier. His head shape and face proportions are very distinct from the first guy.
Thank you for these wonderful reflections. I hope the world will change to the better through this sincere and wise conversation of Mr. Carlson and Putin.
New science explains much of the stupidity epidemic https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/the-jerusalem-report-with-ilana-rachel-daniel/the-indoctrinated-brain-with-michael-nehls-md-phd-the-jerusalem-report/
You must indeed watch the Stone interviews. And also Ukraine on Fire, if you haven't already.